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So apparently dropped due to injury but Yasir Shah according to media report doesn't think his injury is that serious

“The Test series will be played after almost a month’s time. One-day and T20 matches will be held first so the Test series against Zimbabwe will be starting after mid-April. Now when I have recovered from a knee problem, I can start training in the nets in a few days and hopefully would be in the best of rhythm in a couple of weeks"

“Despite of this problem I continued taking wickets. After a brief rest from active cricket, now I am feeling much better and have recovered fully"

Apparently Yasir’s final MRI report is due in the next two days, but the Chief Selector didn’t wait for it and left him out of the aforementioned squad.

Yasir is upset as Wasim didn’t even bother to talk to him before taking the decision and the leg-spinner found out through the media that he was not considered due to injury.
 
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Here you have a guy who is potentially chasing 400-500 Test wickets, doesn’t play any other format either.

No sense in dropping him when he could easily rack up some wickets
 
Surely wasim wouldve communicated the reasons for his dropping to him?
 
Only in Pakistan do you see this behaviour series after series. There is either a serious communication barrier between selectors and serious players or these guys just love causing a stir and are extremely paranoid about losing their spot in the side.

First Hafeez now Yasir.
 
Saj said:
That average needs to come down and no better opportunity than this.
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That isn't the issue. The issue is the serious communication gap that has existed between selection commitees and players in Pakistan ever since.

I guarantee you this isn't looking good on the PCB. Their is no reason to leave your main spinner out of the squad.
 
The communication issue has been a common problem over the years in Pakistan cricket between the selectors and players.

It's such an easy thing to rectify yet they don't do it.

A quick call to a player to let him know what's coming - that's all that is needed.
 
This is more proof that Mohammad Wasim is grandstanding with these selections. Awful man-management, especially as leg-spinners egos, in general, are inherently fragile.
 
Rana said:
The same way Tendulkar had to play the series against Bangladesh to reach that 100th ton
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Absolutely. he's been robbed off IMO As he's already 40+ and might not play anymore tests. He should have been given this opportunity to reach onto that 1000 landmark. After all that he has done for his country, a small honour from the PCB would have been great.
 
If he has not been selected due to injury I don’t have an issue. But the selector should have communicated this to him. If he has been dropped because Wasim doesn’t think he is good enough I don’t agree with that. He is still the best test spinner in Pakistan.
 
szrana007 said:
That would be disastrous for Pakistan. He has to play the West Indies series this year for sure.
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I think being out bowled by Nauman Ali in the recent home series may have influenced this decision. He may still tour the West Indies where the wickets spin but I think the selectors are planning to look ahead and plan for the future. No better opportunity to do so than the tor of Zimbabwe.
 
I have no issues with yasir not being picked for overseas tours

He hasnt been good enough overseas over the last 5 years and its time a finger spinner gets nods overseas Theres no better opportunity than a tour of zimbo for that

The problem is this shouldve been communicated to him rather than him finding out via the media
 
Sher Khan said:
That isn't the issue. The issue is the serious communication gap that has existed between selection commitees and players in Pakistan ever since.

I guarantee you this isn't looking good on the PCB. Their is no reason to leave your main spinner out of the squad.
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Wasim should be blasted for selecting Azhar Ali for this series, not be criticized for not selecting our main spinner. This is the perfect opportunity to give younger players a chance, in away conditions.
 
This is bound to happen when you have a YouTube pundit for a chief-selector. Total incompetence.
 
I honestly don’t see the issue. Yasir is injured and he had admitted as much in the above statement. No need to go crying to the press if your MRI hasn’t been cleared yet.

Someone explain to me what responsibility the selector has in explaining to a player that bro tumhari injury hui wi hai?
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
I honestly don’t see the issue. Yasir is injured and he had admitted as much in the above statement. No need to go crying to the press if your MRI hasn’t been cleared yet.

Someone explain to me what responsibility the selector has in explaining to a player that bro tumhari injury hui wi hai?
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It's poor form from the PCB. Leg-spinners are notoriously insecure, there was no harm in having a frank conversation with Yasir Shah. Lack of communication only creates resentment and mistrust.
 
I dont care yasir is experienced enough to know and stop whinging. We are playing zimbabwe not england this is a perfect oppertunity to try a new spinner
 
Yasir Shah is probably injured but would have played through the pain because outside these tests, he earns little in comparison to others.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
I honestly don’t see the issue. Yasir is injured and he had admitted as much in the above statement. No need to go crying to the press if your MRI hasn’t been cleared yet.

Someone explain to me what responsibility the selector has in explaining to a player that bro tumhari injury hui wi hai?
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What's wrong with picking up phone and talking to your #1 spinner before dropping him ??????
 
Last Monetarist said:
It's poor form from the PCB. Leg-spinners are notoriously insecure, there was no harm in having a frank conversation with Yasir Shah. Lack of communication only creates resentment and mistrust.
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What would you say if he is injured and still played. We can't have it both ways, on the one head criticise the PCB for playing injured players and then also criticise when they don't.
 
Bewal Express said:
What would you say if he is injured and still played. We can't have it both ways, on the one head criticise the PCB for playing injured players and then also criticise when they don't.
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I am not advocating for him to be selected if he is injured and hasn't cleared his tests, or even if he is fit I have no real problem with him being omitted.

However, Mohammad Wasim created this whole problem by stating that he will be transparent and open with all the players with respect to selection policy. He can only expect criticism from the players when he doesn't keep that promise and adds confusion to the process.
 
Last Monetarist said:
I am not advocating for him to be selected if he is injured and hasn't cleared his tests, or even if he is fit I have no real problem with him being omitted.

However, Mohammad Wasim created this whole problem by stating that he will be transparent and open with all the players with respect to selection policy. He can only expect criticism from the players when he doesn't keep that promise and adds confusion to the process.
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If he didn't give him a call then that is poor form and bad management by MW but we don't he know he didn't do that, the sources say that but if the same question is asked to MW he may tell a different story. But I do agree this sort of rubbish happens too often with our selection. Surely, it can't be too hard to call a player.
 
Last Monetarist said:
I am not advocating for him to be selected if he is injured and hasn't cleared his tests, or even if he is fit I have no real problem with him being omitted.

However, Mohammad Wasim created this whole problem by stating that he will be transparent and open with all the players with respect to selection policy. He can only expect criticism from the players when he doesn't keep that promise and adds confusion to the process.
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Who says he didn't inform or that Yasir is that angry/disappointed our reporters are used to making a mountain out a of a molehill.
 
Couch Cricketer said:
Who says he didn't inform or that Yasir is that angry/disappointed our reporters are used to making a mountain out a of a molehill.
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Well the report actually quotes Yasir. So one would hope and expect that he has actually said it given that it's in the public domain.
 
Last Monetarist said:
It's poor form from the PCB. Leg-spinners are notoriously insecure, there was no harm in having a frank conversation with Yasir Shah. Lack of communication only creates resentment and mistrust.
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From the looks of it there was a conversation at some point a couple weeks earlier regarding the injury. There was then no update regarding the injury and he is yet to be cleared. What are the grounds for a new conversation?

Wasim also mentioned in the presser (which you should watch) that he has already gotten back to most of the players who weren’t selected about what they need to do to make it to the Pakistan team. He was unable to get back to a couple and said he would do so in the coming day.

The real problem I see here is what you mentioned about insecurity. Yasir has no business going to the press at the drop of a pen and complaining about non-selection when he knows full well why he hasn’t been selected. If there is an issue, he can clear this up with Mohammad Wasim.

The journalists here are just as complicit in furthering false narratives and mistrust as the player. False reports emerging out of every corner from local journalists this last week which embarrassingly had players like Fawad Ahmed, Shadab Khan, and Alex Hales taking to Twitter to debunk.

moghul said:
What's wrong with picking up phone and talking to your #1 spinner before dropping him ??????
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That’s one way of looking at it and in retrospect now that Yasir has gone crying to the press, and how big of an issue this has become, yes that would have been a simple solution to all this fuss.

And yet, it seems pretty clear why Yasir wasn’t selected. Hell, even Yasir is absolutely clear about this. This indicates to me a conversation did take place at some point. Let’s say that was 3 weeks ago. If there is no update on the injury since then, then why would another conversation take place when there’s really nothing to discuss?

Wasim also said in the conference that he’s already gotten back to most players and the remaining he would do by tomorrow (which is now today). I’m fairly certain if Yasir had waited a couple hours longer, he’d have gotten a call.

In retrospect, yes, this call should have been made before the conference but I honestly can understand why it wasn’t made. Instead, you now have false reports perpetrating on social media as well as some posters on PP misinterpreting this. Suddenly there’s a narrative that Yasir is fully fit which is being perpetrated by local sports journalists on Twitter and that there is ziadti being done with him.

So if you ask me, if I were Ehsan Mani I would fine Yasir for discrediting the PCB in the press.
 
Yasir Shah being dropped wasn't surprising to be fair considering the Zim tour would be perfect for a another spinner to make there debut whether that's Zahid Mehmood or Sajid Khan. But you would thought Nauman Ali could be the main spinner outside Asia.
 
Our senior players need to be bit more mature and selectors need to communicate better. Him being fit or not doesn’t change the fact that another spinner or two can be atleast given opportunity against Zim to invest in the bench strength as well. Yasir is a proven performer over the years despite his performances dipping in last 3 years so not sure why is he so worried about not being selected here when Mohammed Wasim even mentioned in the press conference that alongside his fitness he is also going to be working with Saqlain on his bowling in the meantime.

Maybe PCB should attach a person with selection committee whose job is to just to give calls to everyone who has not been selected, try to communicate the reasons and if possible also work on their insecurities. What exactly clauses in the contracts of PCB and policies stand for when after every exclusion we see an issue or two being made out of it.
 
Shoaibbtt said:
Who really cares, Zahid will do a fine job. Give someone else a chance I say.
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First off, I care.

And secondly, what makes you think that 32 year old with a mediocre FC bowling average of 37 is going to be a reliable test match bowler for us?
 
A great opportunity for Zahid, Sajid and Nauman to stamp their authority in conditions outside Asia.

For some years now PP fans didn't want Yasir to get selected outside Asia and they got it and yet they manage to cry a river about it? Will we ever be happy about something?

At times I am amazed at how we Pakistanis manage to be negative after even getting our wishes fulfilled. Some serious talent this.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
First off, I care.

And secondly, what makes you think that 32 year old with a mediocre FC bowling average of 37 is going to be a reliable test match bowler for us?
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Give him a chance I say, he did very well in the QeA trophy. I mean yes without Yasir you miss a chance of cameo runs but honestly with us facing Zimbabwe it shouldn’t really matter plus Yasir is injured and it’s unlucky that his results were pending prior to team announcement. I mean even if Yasir doesn’t get selected my gut tells me Sajid will be a good inclusion he can score runs with the bat and looked good in the nets.
 
moghul said:
That's why every "normal" cricket board has a panel of doctors to evaluate a cricket's match fitness, this is not a matter of he said she said.
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When your living is at stake,you won't always agree with the assessments. That's the reason players play through injuries to avoid their competition getting a look in.
 
Saj said:
The communication issue has been a common problem over the years in Pakistan cricket between the selectors and players.

It's such an easy thing to rectify yet they don't do it.

A quick call to a player to let him know what's coming - that's all that is needed.
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Soft skills or humanity. We tend not to have it.
 
Shoaibbtt said:
Give him a chance I say, he did very well in the QeA trophy. I mean yes without Yasir you miss a chance of cameo runs but honestly with us facing Zimbabwe it shouldn’t really matter plus Yasir is injured and it’s unlucky that his results were pending prior to team announcement. I mean even if Yasir doesn’t get selected my gut tells me Sajid will be a good inclusion he can score runs with the bat and looked good in the nets.
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He was okay. He took wickets but he still got smashed for plenty.

And don't justify his actions on the old give this youngster a chance manta. You can't expect to build a proper test team if you bring in new players every series. There are hundreds of players who deserve a chance to play for Pakistan; doesn't mean you bring them all into the test team.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
So if you ask me, if I were Ehsan Mani I would fine Yasir for discrediting the PCB in the press.
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That would exacerbate the problem and alienate one of the best spinners in the country.

We have to understand that sportspeople, in general, are not as mature as a person that has gone through life's hard knocks, given that they have been living a dream since they were young. They can throw tantrums just like a child. Spinners around the world are notoriously insecure, because of the precarious nature of their art.

Communication has been a recurring problem with multiple PCB administrations, alas Mohammad Wasim seems no different to anyone that held the post in the past. Given that a few players have complained about the lack of transparency now, I'm inclined to believe that there is a problem there.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
Pakistan's best test bowler in last 20 years deserves better treatment
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Been awful in the last 5 years though. I'm glad he got the boot, if these players showed as much energy and dedication when they start mouthing off after being axed, then it would bode better for them.
 
Kroll said:
Been awful in the last 5 years though. I'm glad he got the boot, if these players showed as much energy and dedication when they start mouthing off after being axed, then it would bode better for them.
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Only in SENA, in Asia/WI he has been very good in the last 5 years.
 
szrana007 said:
Only in SENA, in Asia/WI he has been very good in the last 5 years.
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Even in Asia, having followed his progress in the last few series, he's been average at best. A good leg spinner should be able to perform everywhere.

But look at his outburst, its very telling, if felt he was so good to be in the team rather than just a free loader, he would know that he'd get back in the side. Now that he's been exposed and knows his chances of getting back are slim, he's decided to throw a tantrum.

Although, I might be open to him coming back, I'd prefer if we invested in players who are willing to do the hard yards. Yasir has got skills but doesn't come across as someone who is willing to put the work in to represent the jersey.
 
Yasir probably needs a break, but he seems to be unhappy that it has been conveyed that he is injured when he clearly feels he will be fit for the tour.
 
His quotes on the injury show why he didn't get selected.

The knee hasn't even been tested in the nets yet.
 
moghul said:
Is this a serious question ?
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Yes. All he wants to do is pad his stats against weak opposition, and go missing when faced with half-decent opponents on away tours. Much more beneficial for us to test our bench strength, in abroad conditions.

Good decision by Wasim. Azhar Ali should have been rested too for Usman Salahuddin.
 
Saj said:
The communication issue has been a common problem over the years in Pakistan cricket between the selectors and players.

It's such an easy thing to rectify yet they don't do it.

A quick call to a player to let him know what's coming - that's all that is needed.
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Pakistani culture is such that they would feel too proud or its beneath them to bother with such etiquette.
 
In 6 yrs he has picked over 200 test wickets

Which other bowler has done that for Pakistan fastest to pick 200 test wickets

He debuted too late as well should have been tried out in 2010 and partnered ajmal .

A talented cricketer very good fielder obviously age is catching up now so not as quick anymore in the field , and ok with the bat probably under achieved with the bat since he has some ability .
 
I think Wasim wants Yasir to make a full recovery here so that he's firing at 100% in future tests to come, don't think he's being dropped for anything other than that. But yeah, Wasim should've communicated with Yasir here.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
He was okay. He took wickets but he still got smashed for plenty.

And don't justify his actions on the old give this youngster a chance manta. You can't expect to build a proper test team if you bring in new players every series. There are hundreds of players who deserve a chance to play for Pakistan; doesn't mean you bring them all into the test team.
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So what’s the big deal for one series? Yasir will be back you can count on it. Let Zahid have his day in the sun, he can bowl the odd unplayable delivery but if he’s not selected in the final XI then no worries Sajid can do a job as well.
 
Well he was dropped for the 2nd kiwi test and for South Africa series he was being considered to be dropped as well but wasn’t because 2 new spinners would have debuted.
 
Completely unprofessional from Yasir. If he is upset at being dropped, he should have called the selectors and spoken to them personally. This is not going to make things better and he'll be the first one to face the axe in the future.
 
Not sure why there is a huge hue cry about this. Yasir Shah has been declining very badly off late and the selectors want to prepare for life and alternatives without him
 
Shadab Khan has been cleared to feature in the remaining HBL Pakistan Super League 6 matches for Islamabad United, while decision on Yasir Shah’s appearance will be made in due course.

Shadab has completed seven weeks of the required eight weeks of rehabilitation from a left toe injury he sustained batting during the second ODI against South Africa.

Yasir Shah is making significant improvement since undergoing rehab at the National High Performance Centre in Lahore since the Rawalpindi Test against South Africa. The leg-spinner resumed running and bowling a week ago
 
MenInG said:
Shadab Khan has been cleared to feature in the remaining HBL Pakistan Super League 6 matches for Islamabad United, while decision on Yasir Shah’s appearance will be made in due course.

Shadab has completed seven weeks of the required eight weeks of rehabilitation from a left toe injury he sustained batting during the second ODI against South Africa.

Yasir Shah is making significant improvement since undergoing rehab at the National High Performance Centre in Lahore since the Rawalpindi Test against South Africa. The leg-spinner resumed running and bowling a week ago
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If he has "resumed running and bowling a week ago" why was he upset over not being picked up for the tour to Zimbabwe, was he expecting to limp and Bowl in that serious?

Some Pakistani players and their shenanigans are too hot to handle.

There are just too many DIVAS in Pakistan Men's cricket team.
 
anonymous_guy said:
If he has "resumed running and bowling a week ago" why was he upset over not being picked up for the tour to Zimbabwe, was he expecting to limp and Bowl in that serious?

Some Pakistani players and their shenanigans are too hot to handle.

There are just too many DIVAS in Pakistan Men's cricket team.
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Exactly, it was the right decision by Wasim to drop him. He is just bitter that he missed out on some easy test wickets against Zimbabwe. He would have happily gone there overweight and limping.
 
Makes a return for Pakistan:

Mohammad Wasim: “Yasir Shah’s inclusion is subject to clearing his fitness test. He was sidelined due to a knee injury after the second Test against South Africa earlier this year and was expected to reclaim complete fitness for the West Indies tour. It, however, has not been the case, but we remain hopeful that he will complete his rehabilitation before the departure."
 
I don't think Pakistan can win this series without Yasir. So let's hope he makes a full recovery in time.
 
Trinbago Knight Riders have signed Yasir Shah for the 2021 season of the Caribbean Premier League.
 
Shah ji looking like he was running in quicksand today at Galle.

Doesn't seem fully fit.
 
Saj said:
Shah ji looking like he was running in quicksand today at Galle.

Doesn't seem fully fit.
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I question whether his age is correct. He moves around like someone who is 40
 
Averages 43 for the series as it stands. Naseem for context averages 37...

He is finished.
 
He is still playing because the other spinners are barely FC. Ever since the advent of DRS, the value of average leg spinners has diminished and unless another Shane Warne comes along, that won't change
 
Seems as if YS is past his best nowadays.

Could be getting close to moving on time.
 
James said:
Seems as if YS is past his best nowadays.

Could be getting close to moving on time.
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Bar the odd game,we have had the same issues for a long time. In the age of DRS an average leg spinner is worse than an average finger spinner. Our problem is that our finger spinners are also poor
 
Don't know why he isn't being consistent in his line and lengths. He has played international cricket long enough to know what will fetch him success.
 
The guy is dusted.

Sajid Khan is easily the best spinner in Pak, but harshly dealt with.

He picked up wkts in BD because there was turn available, but nothing in the Aus series and was suddenly dropped without a proper chance.

He would have done much better than all the current Pak spinners.
 
I think this series should be the end of Yasir Shah.

There is enough series gone by where he is the weak link - can't take wickets and leaks too many runs too fast, taking all pressure away.

The playbook is old.

Whatever he had (and he never had it in Aus) is gone. Time for an honorable exit.
 
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