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I love these people and their country and that had a profound impact on my life as a lost teenager so I will share some thoughts about them in this thread.

Anyone with direct experience and exposure, please jump in.
 
I love these people and their country and that had a profound impact on my life as a lost teenager so I will share some thoughts about them in this thread.

Anyone with direct experience and exposure, please jump in.​

Long before the advent of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) and impact of Islam, the region of Yemen was always considered to be "Happy-Go-Lucky" region of Arabic because it was fertile as opposed to areas of present day Saudia and Gulf.

As a result, people were rich, friendly and welcoming and this trait has continued to this day among the Yemeni people.

 
Many years ago I met a Yemeni nomad in Saudi who was selling honey . He grabbed me by the shoulder and insisted I try his honey . I gave it a go , tasted incredible but as I never made it back to him to buy any . After returning and researching yemini honey , it’s a miracle natural medicine with divine given powers. A spoon in the morning and one at night. Since I met the chap , no flu , Covid , nothing . I would love to meet this chap, say thanks and buy his produce.
 
Many years ago I met a Yemeni nomad in Saudi who was selling honey . He grabbed me by the shoulder and insisted I try his honey . I gave it a go , tasted incredible but as I never made it back to him to buy any . After returning and researching yemini honey , it’s a miracle natural medicine with divine given powers. A spoon in the morning and one at night. Since I met the chap , no flu , Covid , nothing . I would love to meet this chap, say thanks and buy his produce.
Yemeni Traders/Enterprises in Saudia

Throughout Arabia, Yemeni traders have been selling merchandise and trading for 1000s of years. Today, in modern Saudi Arabia, 3 specific businesses are mostly done by Yemeni people:​
  1. Gold & Jewellery​
  2. Spices (fresh ground spices) all over the markets in Saudia​
  3. Tailors and Clothing​
Before the arrival of Pakistani laborers, Yemeni people are the one who built Saudi Arabia with hard labor under extreme weather, because they are tough, rugged people.

One such laborer was Muhammad bin Awad bin Ladin (1908-1967) who migrated to Saudia during Ottoman times as a poor laborer with his brothers before WW1.

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Note the facial features which are typical Yemeni.

Muhammad setup a small construction company around 1930s and came into contact with the Al-Saud family and in the 1950s and 1960s grew into a National conglomerate which it is today

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His grandson born to his son (also called Muhammad) and a Syrian woman was Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden, notice the typically sharp Yemeni nose...

The name should really be Osama bin Mohammed bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden

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The Saudi Binladin Group is responsible for the expansion, construction and maintenance of Prophets Mosque (Madina) and also Masjidul-Haram (Makkah) which they typically bid at 25% of the price and inject their own money on the projects.​

What its like to deal with Yemeni Shopkeepers?

If you go to the same shop twice, they will ask you to eat, drink tea and then talk business, really nice, kind and hospitable people.

The typical breakfast for people of this region is Foul with Naan bread.

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Yemeni food seems and tastes like a cross between desi and arbi food. Not a big fan of their food though.
In between the 4 years of my 2 visits to Saudia, a lot has changed there. Inflation (obviously) aside, the naturalness and simplicity has changed a lot. There used to be majority of desi workers there running the shops, restaurants etc but this time around I found them to have been replaced by their own. Even a lot of markets and roads near Masjid e Nabwi have changed a lot now. Love the hospitality of the people in and near Haram though.
 
Many years ago I met a Yemeni nomad in Saudi who was selling honey . He grabbed me by the shoulder and insisted I try his honey . I gave it a go , tasted incredible but as I never made it back to him to buy any . After returning and researching yemini honey , it’s a miracle natural medicine with divine given powers. A spoon in the morning and one at night. Since I met the chap , no flu , Covid , nothing . I would love to meet this chap, say thanks and buy his produce.
yemeni honey and yemeni coffee are both delicious, both have a distinctive unique taste.

i buy both regularly
 
Yemeni People and Sex

This aspect must be discussed :)

This thread needs to be understand in the context of guidelines within Qur'aan and Sunnah and not pornography.

Yemeni people unlike other (Muslim) cultures are very casual about discussions about sex within the Islamic confines. There are next to no Yemeni (men) whom I know to have a single wife in Yemen or outside Yemen. During my teenage years, I was blown away by pretty explicit public advice about sexual relations by scholars and students of knowledge when they found out I was unmarried.

Being unmarried (or not having sex) is regarded as deficient in their culture, in fact when you are studying or participating in discussions you, your opinions and everything will be disregarded when Yemeni people get to know that you are unmarried and not having sex!

 
I don't want to divert the thread down a sectarian angle - but any users well versed in early islamic history and have a reasonable grounding I would suggest looking at the Zaidi school for an academic interest. They are only really found in Yemen, in fact the Houthis are Yemeni, they have some beliefs contrary to Ahle Sunnah but they are a school that is overall accepted by Sunnis and also by a Shia.

Let's not debate it in this great thread but something for those that are interested to look into in their own time.
 
Yemeni People and Sex

This aspect must be discussed :)

This thread needs to be understand in the context of guidelines within Qur'aan and Sunnah and not pornography.

Yemeni people unlike other (Muslim) cultures are very casual about discussions about sex within the Islamic confines. There are next to no Yemeni (men) whom I know to have a single wife in Yemen or outside Yemen. During my teenage years, I was blown away by pretty explicit public advice about sexual relations by scholars and students of knowledge when they found out I was unmarried.

Being unmarried (or not having sex) is regarded as deficient in their culture, in fact when you are studying or participating in discussions you, your opinions and everything will be disregarded when Yemeni people get to know that you are unmarried and not having sex!

Bro it's actually a very good point considering how much a mans mindset and views change after marriage. The extra responsibility etc

I have heard some scholars mention the commandment to establish the prayer can also be interpreted for men to establish it within their households, and a man can only fulfil this divine commandment if he is married.
 
Bro it's actually a very good point considering how much a mans mindset and views change after marriage. The extra responsibility etc

I have heard some scholars mention the commandment to establish the prayer can also be interpreted for men to establish it within their households, and a man can only fulfil this divine commandment if he is married.
Yemeni people (and some past) Scholars believe that a man's thoughts are not balanced if there is pent up sexual anxiety in him.​
 
I don't want to divert the thread down a sectarian angle - but any users well versed in early islamic history and have a reasonable grounding I would suggest looking at the Zaidi school for an academic interest. They are only really found in Yemen, in fact the Houthis are Yemeni, they have some beliefs contrary to Ahle Sunnah but they are a school that is overall accepted by Sunnis and also by a Shia.

Let's not debate it in this great thread but something for those that are interested to look into in their own time.
Yemeni People and Tolerance:

This brings us to an interesting point about Yemen. For the past three to four decades, news coverage has portrayed Yemen mainly through the lens of sectarianism, intolerance, and communal conflict. But this image does not fully reflect the reality of Yemeni society.

While disputes do exist, they are largely political. Much of the sectarian tension has been fuelled deliberately, driven by millions of dollars spent by Iran, Saudi Arabia, and more recently the UAE, each backing factions for strategic reasons.

From an Islamic perspective, Yemeni society has traditionally been divided into several main groups, most of them coexisting peacefully for centuries. The key groups are:

  1. Sunni Shafi‘i: Historically the majority; many follow Sufi traditions.
  2. Sunni Ahl-e-Hadith: The Ahl-e-Hadith tradition in India and Pakistan owes much of its scholarly foundation to Yemen. Its curriculum is heavily influenced by Yemeni scholars, most notably Imam al-Shawkani (RA).
  3. Shia Zaydi: The Zaydis are doctrinally the closest Shia group to Sunnis. They reject the infallible “Imam” doctrine and do not curse the companions of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
    1. Imam Shawkani (RA) was a Zaydi Shia who converted to Sunni'ism and then refuted the Shia Madhab
    2. Nawab Siddiq Hasan Khan (in India) was a Shia who was inspired, converted to Sunni'ism and wrote prolific works refuting Shia'ism in the Indian context
  4. Sunni Madkhali-Salafi: A later development that emerged after the establishment of Saudi Arabia, strongly aligned with Saudi religious authority.

3.1 converted to Sunni'ism so went out of their way to write books against Shia'ism while 3.2 converted to Sunni'ism from Ithna-Ashari Shia which is the common form in India/Pakistan/Iran/Afghanistan and different to Zaydi Shia.​

Despite these differences, in Sana’a and within the Yemeni diaspora in the West, these groups often live side by side with little friction. They mix socially, attend the same spaces, and interact without tension.

You can see this clearly in places like the Yemeni Centre in Birmingham (UK) or the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Michigan. Walk through Dearborn’s coffee shops, restaurants, or community spaces or down Coventry Road in Birmingham and you encounter a mixed Yemeni community where ideological differences are not visible. People coexist naturally, without the sectarian divisions so often emphasized in media narratives.

In fact, Yemeni Centre in Birmingham (UK) have fantastic relationship with GreenLane Mosque (Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadeeth, Pakistan) instead of Arab dominated Madkhali Salafi Masjid down the road.​
 
Impact of Yemeni People on Bengal

@sweep_shot @Suleiman

A number of Yemeni Scholars and Mashaykh specifically came to Bengal (India) and two specific Auliya of Allah left an indelible mark on Bangal (East and West) and they are:
  1. Shaykh Malik (Pir Yemeni)
  2. Shāh Jalāl Mujarrad Kunyāʾī
We do not have full authentic Account of their lives and works so many of the common practices in Bangladesh which are against the Sunnah cannot be laid at their door step, all we know is they came from Yemen and ended up in (today's) Bangladesh.​
 
Impact of Yemeni People on Bengal

@sweep_shot @Suleiman

A number of Yemeni Scholars and Mashaykh specifically came to Bengal (India) and two specific Auliya of Allah left an indelible mark on Bangal (East and West) and they are:
  1. Shaykh Malik (Pir Yemeni)
  2. Shāh Jalāl Mujarrad Kunyāʾī
We do not have full authentic Account of their lives and works so many of the common practices in Bangladesh which are against the Sunnah cannot be laid at their door step, all we know is they came from Yemen and ended up in (today's) Bangladesh.​

Wow! I didn't know this. Thanks for sharing.

I know Shah Jalal but didn't know he was a Yemeni.
 
Many years ago I met a Yemeni nomad in Saudi who was selling honey . He grabbed me by the shoulder and insisted I try his honey . I gave it a go , tasted incredible but as I never made it back to him to buy any . After returning and researching yemini honey , it’s a miracle natural medicine with divine given powers. A spoon in the morning and one at night. Since I met the chap , no flu , Covid , nothing . I would love to meet this chap, say thanks and buy his produce.

Never tried Yemeni honey. Would love to try.

Checked on Google. It is available in Canada. Alhamdulillah.

Seems a bit more expensive than regular honey but that's understandable I guess. It is a unique honey.
 
Yemen and Islam in India?

Authenticity Warning:
Not established from primary sources of Islam but mentioned by renowned Indian historian Muhammad Hamidullah (1908-2002) in his book Muhammad Rasul-ullah and then quoted secondarily by Dr Akram Zahoor in Muslim History: Volume 1

There is a very old tradition in Malabar, South-West Coast of India, that Chakrawati Farmas, one of their kings, had observed the splitting of the moon, the celebrated miracle of the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) at Mecca, and learning on inquiry that there was a prediction of the coming of a Messenger of God from Arabia, he appointed his son as regent and set out to meet him. He embraced Islam at the hand of the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him), and when returning home, at the direction of the Prophet, died at the port of Zafar, Yemen, where the tomb of the Indian king was piously visited for many centuries.

Before Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him), Malabar also had a Christian community dating back from the earliest followers of Prophet Jesus ('Isa), pbuh. St. Thomas is believed to have migrated to India and died there. This community remained untouched by later theological developments in Christianity until the arrival of Portugese traveler Vasco da Gama.

When the British were consolidating their stronghold in India, they deployed the largest naval operation (on the shores of India) against the Muslims of Malabar.

What is Authentic?
حدثنا علي بن حمشاد العدل حدثنا العباس بن الفضل الأسفاطي و محمد بن غالب قالا : حدثنا عمرو بن حكام حدثنا شعبة أخبرني علي بن زيد قال : سمعت أبا المتوكل يحدث عن أبي سعيد الخدري رضي الله عنه قال : أهدى ملك الهند إلى رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم جرة فيها زنجبيل فأطعم أصحابه قطعة قطعة و أطعمني منها قطعة​

Hakim (RA) reports in his Mustadrak, narrated by Abu Saeed Al Khudriy (RA) “Indian king presented Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) a container with ginger in it. Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) then fed His companions pieces of ginger and I also was fed a piece from it”.​
 
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