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"You need a lot of encouragement to make a comeback" : Shoaib Malik

Abdullah719

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Shoaib Malik at a presser after the first T20I against BD:

"Congratulations to Pakistan for winning the match, it's a great thing for us to be having these games at home.

"Experience is fine but performing is a responsibility. The main responsibility for experienced players is to groom youngsters and I think it went well today.

"When I played my first match in 99, I can understand what the feelings were. When Ahsan was playing, he showed so much confidence. In the middle, it wasn't easy specially on such a difficult pitch. Credit to him, he stuck with me and I think that was the turning point after early wickets. We had to conserve wickets and also score runs, it's a good sign that a youngster was also part of that.

"You don't find perfect people even in your family. Ups and downs are part of life, even the richest person can't have perfection, you have to go through the hard yards. We aimed to give our best shot, the pitch and weather aren't in our hands so we focus on what is in our hands.

"I didn't respond to anyone, I said that I try to satisfy myself with my performances. I don't want to make anyone else happy or angry, but it's my responsibility to respect everyone and people have different points of view. If someone says something negative about me, I shouldn't feel bad about it. I am happy with my performance and that it helped Pakistan to a win.

"If I say it's not difficult, that will be wrong. You need a lot of encouragement to make a comeback, specially when many things are against you. But this is part of life, until you don't go through the hard yards, you won't succeed. If your intentions are correct then no matter who is with you or against you, you can get success. It's difficult when someone says something about you but at the same time, you need to focus on your surroundings and being surrounded by positive people and that helps, I think that's an advantage I had. I played leagues everywhere and didn't just sit at home, I also played domestic cricket. You have to take your frustration out somewhere and for an athlete, that's the ground.

"If the story was one page long, it would have finished but a book consists of many pages, never one page. You get out, you also perform. You should remain strong and then you can succeed.

(You are even more senior than your coach so will you groom him also) "In the world, there is no person who can say I have learnt everything. If Sachin Tendulkar can't even say that or so many other people - the learning process never stops. We get after people very quickly, we want overnight results, that's not how it works but we have to show patience. If someone gets a chance, we should give them time. You want masala but you should also think about the country. If someone has been given a responsibility where they can take the team forward, I think you should wait a bit and support them.

"My work is to focus on the responsibility I have been given and to do that in the best way. It's not my responsibility to think about what someone else thinks or what someone said about me. A professional has to accept challenges and perform and there is no satisfaction besides in performing.

"I am not thinking about the World Cup, I am thinking about the World Cup tomorrow. I am not thinking that my innings today will help me get to the World Cup. I want to perform consistently for now, the World Cup is far away."
 
Sad state of reality there for Malik. What on earth must he be feeling after being MoM but still having so much tanzia about his place,But never the less as always well given statement by Malik. Stalwart that he has been for our country.
 
"You need a lot of encouragement(and a lot of money as well as political connections) to play in Pakistan team."

Shoaib Malik

My condolences to the Pakistan fans who had to watch his batting torture.
 
Worst thing to happen is this shameless individual scoring a few easy runs on flat no bounce wickets a before becoming a walking duck in Aus etc.

So shameful it is beyond disgraceful that he’s still playing.
 
Worst thing to happen is this shameless individual scoring a few easy runs on flat no bounce wickets a before becoming a walking duck in Aus etc.

So shameful it is beyond disgraceful that he’s still playing.
a never ending cycle.

Misbah is truly a curse for Pakistani fans.
 
Sad state of reality there for Malik. What on earth must he be feeling after being MoM but still having so much tanzia about his place,But never the less as always well given statement by Malik. Stalwart that he has been for our country.

stalwart on Pakistani pitches against BD. His true calibre was seen when quality teams kept bowling at his head and he was hoiking them like a tailender in the world cup. sorry but Malik never played well against quality teams.
 
"You need a lot of encouragement(and a lot of money as well as political connections) to play in Pakistan team."

Shoaib Malik

My condolences to the Pakistan fans who had to watch his batting torture.

The batting torture that won us the game?
 
stalwart on Pakistani pitches against BD. His true calibre was seen when quality teams kept bowling at his head and he was hoiking them like a tailender in the world cup. sorry but Malik never played well against quality teams.


The stats do bear this out pretty clearly. His overseas batting stats, in England especially, are bad reading. Averages 30 in ODI’s in Oz with three not outs and two fifties, which is not great. His T20 stats are not too bad.. though still bad in England, SA and NZ. Stats suggest he is not likely to perform in WC in Oz. I think Pak will have no option but to take him though, considering the batting reserves and the current thinking of the team management.
 
a never ending cycle.

Misbah is truly a curse for Pakistani fans.

Goldfish memory?

It was Mickey Arthur's formula to play Malik and Sarfraz, get to a meaningless #1 ranking.

First step Misbah took was to drop Malik and Sarfraz. Then we lost T20s and this same awaam wanted the Mickey Arthur combination back in T20s.

Why are you crying now when the Mickey formula is brought back?

I'm against this Mickey Arthur fake T20 rankings formula. Playing Malik and Sarfraz will certainly lose us the world T20 even though it will keep our #1 ranking.

We'll keep winning these meaningless bilateral T20s but fail in the actual tournament.

Kami and Umar are need of the hour. Misbah has to discard this Mickey formula of Malik an Sarfrazs.
 
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The stats do bear this out pretty clearly. His overseas batting stats, in England especially, are bad reading. Averages 30 in ODI’s in Oz with three not outs and two fifties, which is not great. His T20 stats are not too bad.. though still bad in England, SA and NZ. Stats suggest he is not likely to perform in WC in Oz. I think Pak will have no option but to take him though, considering the batting reserves and the current thinking of the team management.

How many scoring shots he played in today's match? How many sixes he hit today?
What is his average in Australia and New Zealand in all 3 formats? How many dot balls he plays in a T20 match? How many matches he has won against top 5 ranked teams?

One can manipulate the stats and mould the picture but this pathetic excuses don't work anymore.

People want to see someone who plays for the country, they need to see a batsman who is dynamic and natural can play on any pitch,and they want to watch genuine power hitters who can hit any bowler for six.

Shoaib Malik is a torture to watch and Pakistan cricket won't survive long on Shoaib Malik stats it will be self-destructing.
 
Shoaib Malik just never seems to go away. Despite being down and out on numeous ocassions, Malik has made a comeback and has made his presence felt in the Pakistan saide. On Friday, on his return to the side, he scored a match-winning 58 not out to win the game for Pakistan against Bangladesh in the first T20I.

In the process, Malik also became the 8th player ever to play international cricket over four decades. The 37-year-old who made his debut in 1999 against West Indies in an ODI, played his 434th international game on Friday in Lahore.

Malik now joins the likes of Wilfred Rhodes, Dennis Brian Close, Frank Woolley, Sachin Tendulkar, Jack Hobbs, George Gunn and Sanath Jayasuriya in the elite list.

Out of the seven, England's Rhodes's career lasted the longest at 30 years and 315 days with England's Dennis Brian Close second at 26 years and 356 days. Frank Woolley of England is third with a career of 25 years and 13 days. India's Tendulkar is fifth in the list with 24 years and 1 day.

Malik is, however, only the third Pakistan player to play over 20 years. The other two are Imran Khan and Mushtaq Mohammad. Imran, the current Pakistan Prime Minister played for 20 years and 218 days while Mushtaq played for 20 years and 3 days.

Malik will next be action in the second T20I of the three-match T20I series on Saturday at Lahore.

https://www.indiatvnews.com/sports/...y-international-cricket-over-4-decades-582708
 
I cant believe people are criticizing Malik even after his performance today. Shameless fans with personal agendas.

If it wasnt for him our fragile lineup would have collapsed and botched this chase. 95% of the hyped youngsters touted to replace him wouldve failed. Its apparent when you see the domestic T20 tournaments who can play and who wont survive.
 
Worst thing to happen is this shameless individual scoring a few easy runs on flat no bounce wickets a before becoming a walking duck in Aus etc.

So shameful it is beyond disgraceful that he’s still playing.

You won because of him, imagine losing the match today, rather have the “worst” thing than lose to BD at home.
 
In the long term it might not be good but without him we most probably would have lost.
 
I cant believe people are criticizing Malik even after his performance today. Shameless fans with personal agendas.

If it wasnt for him our fragile lineup would have collapsed and botched this chase. 95% of the hyped youngsters touted to replace him wouldve failed. Its apparent when you see the domestic T20 tournaments who can play and who wont survive.

PEople like you are the real poison and have personal agendas to damage Pakistan cricket. Its enough this loser has been given tolo long a rope time for him to be humiliated and shown the mirror.

Why the Imams and Shoaib Maliks need to play Zimbabwe and Bangladesh instead of Australia and New Zealand. Why did'nt Misbah pick him forAustralian tour given his credentials to help Pakistan win rofl?

How much does Shoaib Malik score on a wicket where bowl starts seaming or even bounce more than 4 feet?
Who's responsible for the fragile lineup PCB or the fans? Those fans are shameless who call tuk tuk and playing dots as T20 cricket.

And shame on those fans who criticise Pakistani public to come to watch this mafia backed planted cricketer who has eaten a many careers since 2004. Malik did not have auqaat to play post 2004.

What do you think we have forgotten his contribution in Pakistan not scoring even total of 100, 5 times with him and Hafeez in the batting order
 
The worst thing than the current Pakistani squad is the Pakistani fans. They are like that typical "aunty" who is never happy.
 
Or a Bangladesh B team, Shoaib.

Incredible how this guy was shielded from the Aus t20's.
 
The difference between Shoaib and guys like Hafeez is professionalism. Shaoib , probably due to some influence from his wife has improved his professionalism a lot in lst 4-5 years and keeps himself fit and gives his maximum like a true professional sportsman. Hafeez depends upon his contacts with Misbah and other guys in PCB.
 
The worst thing than the current Pakistani squad is the Pakistani fans. They are like that typical "aunty" who is never happy.

Worst thing about some posters on PP is that they are totally out of touch. They want Pakistani fans to fill the stadium to watch Rizwan, Malik and Hafeez do tuk-tuk in the T20s. They want Pakistani fans to close their eyes to the PCB mafia to throw debutants(Abid Ali) infront of top 5 like Australia and New Zealand while remain silent on Shoaib Malik and imam being picked citing dubious reasons to play 9th and 10th ranked teams.

This sentence is repeated the most by some PP who have contributed to the devastation Pakistan cricket is in,saying we have limited options while there have been no batting selections outside 5-6 player groups in last 5 years. And if Pakistani fans want their national team to play a T20 like a top team they should not expect that.Allthe more reason why ppl have stopped following Pak cricket altogether.
 
Oh whatever, all you and your mate Hafeez need to do is to stay on the bench for a few months before the selectors come running back.
 
Anyone who thinks pakistan can win T20 games when they matter are delusional. Pakistan has to play their best XI for every game and make constant changes if a young batsman fail. Heck they panic so hard they bring back duds such as Hafeez and malik.

It shows the state of our cricket where we are so terrified of this superficial t20 ranking we make these constant changes and drop or ignore developing batsman to maintain the ranking. Which by the way no one besides us care about.

What’s funny is teams such as India and New Zealand who are ranked 5th and 6th, have much higher odds of winning the T20 World Cup.

Pakistan is in the same lower band as windies.


Come World Cup every top 6 team has persisted and tried new talent in their t20 games who have the ability to perform on pitches with life and pressure. While Pakistan will go in with these 40 year old duds who are in the team because if experience.

Makes me sad
 
Goldfish memory?

It was Mickey Arthur's formula to play Malik and Sarfraz, get to a meaningless #1 ranking.

First step Misbah took was to drop Malik and Sarfraz. Then we lost T20s and this same awaam wanted the Mickey Arthur combination back in T20s.

Why are you crying now when the Mickey formula is brought back?

I'm against this Mickey Arthur fake T20 rankings formula. Playing Malik and Sarfraz will certainly lose us the world T20 even though it will keep our #1 ranking.

We'll keep winning these meaningless bilateral T20s but fail in the actual tournament.

Kami and Umar are need of the hour. Misbah has to discard this Mickey formula of Malik an Sarfrazs.


Your beloved Kami averaged 12. TWELVE in the last T20 World Cup he played.

And Umar was part of the side that crashed out of the group stage of the last World Cup.
 
Your beloved Kami averaged 12. TWELVE in the last T20 World Cup he played.

And Umar was part of the side that crashed out of the group stage of the last World Cup.

Ok cool.

Then how about your Mickey Arthur winning formula of Malik, Sarfraz and Hafeez (even though he is ok)?

You really think Mickey was doing us a service with those people? Why do people whine when those same people are brought back so we retain the fake #1 ranking?
 
We've seen this script before....him and hafeez are going to dominate the run scoring until we get to australia.
 
We've seen this script before....him and hafeez are going to dominate the run scoring until we get to australia.

Ok, but we became number #1 because of this combination in T20s - Malik, Sarfraz and Hafeez. That's the Mickey Arthur way of getting to no. 1 and that's what people wanted after we lost that single SL series.

If I remember correctly you too were outraged. Why aren't you happy since we've adopted the old winning strategy? And fake ranking.
 
Ok cool.

Then how about your Mickey Arthur winning formula of Malik, Sarfraz and Hafeez (even though he is ok)?

You really think Mickey was doing us a service with those people? Why do people whine when those same people are brought back so we retain the fake #1 ranking?

Then 2 are clowns of the highest order. The 2 are just behind them. My 50 year old uncle moves better in the field then shameless fixer kamran akmal. Let's not forget how embarrassing it seeing him in west Indies in the field and umar akmal with 2 golden ducks the last time he played.
 
We've seen this script before....him and hafeez are going to dominate the run scoring until we get to australia.

Yeah but what do you think about today’s match he clearly was better than others..
 
Reminder why there's no replacement for experience. Malik is Pakistan's highest ever T20I run-scorer and clearly still doing well in T20Is. He should be allowed to play as long as Pakistan don't find a batsman who absolutely has to be in the team. At the moment there's no one good enough to replace him and Hafeez.
 
Yeah but what do you think about today’s match he clearly was better than others..

Some Pakistani fans have a short memory. They forget how Pakistan got to the No. 1 T20 ranking in the first place. Last 2 T20 series have already shown what the Pakistan batting looks like without Malik and Hafeez.
 
Malik looks arguably one of the top batsmen around in Pakistan when it comes to batting against slow bowlers ,I wonder who could Pakistan rely on if they aren't or shouldn't play Malik in T20I team,Pakistan batting reserve looks so pathetic that Pakistan is still relying on players like hafeez and malik who are around 38 years old if I am correct
 
Worst thing to happen is this shameless individual scoring a few easy runs on flat no bounce wickets a before becoming a walking duck in Aus etc.

So shameful it is beyond disgraceful that he’s still playing.

He was the highest scorer, only one to make a 50...
 
I feel Malik merits a place in the T20 team. There is a reason he is highly regarded in league cricket across the world. One underrated aspect about him is his fielding. Such a safe pair of hands at long on/off, can't remember the last time I saw him drop a catch.

Hafeez on the other hand has to go. He has a terrible T20I average and Strike Rate, is banned from bowling, and is a poor fielder.
 
It was Bangladesh, with a horrendous bowling attack and some even more horrible tactics.

What is mediocre Malik looking for, a gold medal?
 
Without Shoaib Malik, Pakistan could've lost the game. He probably saved the day. Credit has to be given where it is due.

The question is, can he do the same on Aussie pitches? We have to wait and see.
 
Without Shoaib Malik, Pakistan could've lost the game. He probably saved the day. Credit has to be given where it is due.

The question is, can he do the same on Aussie pitches? We have to wait and see.
If you have to wait and see to answer that question then I am afraid you haven’t been paying attention for the last ten years.
 
If you have to wait and see to answer that question then I am afraid you haven’t been paying attention for the last ten years.

I know that he struggled a lot outside of subcontinent. But, Pakistan doesn't really have many replacements for him.

At the end of the day, he is a really experienced guy and you need experience in Australia.

I think Hafeez should get the chop but Shoaib Malik should be in Australia.
 
I know that he struggled a lot outside of subcontinent. But, Pakistan doesn't really have many replacements for him.

At the end of the day, he is a really experienced guy and you need experience in Australia.

I think Hafeez should get the chop but Shoaib Malik should be in Australia.

I would be fine with Pakistani losing 20 games to find adequate replacements vs feeling helpless that we have two mediocre players who have two decades of feasting on easy opposition and losing to the big boys
 
I would be fine with Pakistani losing 20 games to find adequate replacements vs feeling helpless that we have two mediocre players who have two decades of feasting on easy opposition and losing to the big boys

Wrong. You were outraged at us losing the SL T20s.
 
Wrong. You were outraged at us losing the SL T20s.

I was outraged at selection of Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad. Misbah’s coaching tenure so far has been about proving justice to trash discarded during Mickey’s era
 
I was outraged at selection of Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad. Misbah’s coaching tenure so far has been about proving justice to trash discarded during Mickey’s era

Yes, deflect all you want. You'll never be happy. Not when 3 seniors are dropped and not when they're brought back . It's because you've made up your mind to hate on certain individuals, so no decision or result will be satisfactory.
 
Geez hearing Malik and Hafeez today it sounds as if they won PAK the WC.

These 2 have set the bar so low that after beating Bangla boys they talk about special achievements.
 
I was outraged at selection of Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad. Misbah’s coaching tenure so far has been about proving justice to trash discarded during Mickey’s era

They're both performing at domestic level so it's not like they weren't picked on merit

Shadab is still in the team and ashraf will join him if he keeps up his recent form
 
Yes, deflect all you want. You'll never be happy. Not when 3 seniors are dropped and not when they're brought back . It's because you've made up your mind to hate on certain individuals, so no decision or result will be satisfactory.
Ok you got me. I hate Malik and Hafeez because they have come to define Pakistan’s cricket much like Afridi before them: go big against minnows, and go missing against the big boys when the pressure is on.
 
They're both performing at domestic level so it's not like they weren't picked on merit

Shadab is still in the team and ashraf will join him if he keeps up his recent form

Umar Akmal and Shehzad can top the charts for the next decade but that means nothing when they have to play an intentional bilateral. Selection is not just about justice to chart toppers especially if they have a record of failing on comebacks.
 
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