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Younis Khan vs Mohammed Yousuf vs Misbah-ul-Haq

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Who was better for Pakistan cricket?

Who would you choose to bat for your life

Who would you choose to chase a target in ODi's

Who was the better leader?

Who was the better fielder?

In short who was the the better package for Package!

:sarf
 
Misbah should not even be in this conversation

Till 3 years ago Id picked Yousuf and his style and elegance won it for me.

He still smashes YK in terms of aesthetics but YK effectiveness and runs wins it for him
 
Who was better for Pakistan cricket?

Who would you choose to bat for your life

Who would you choose to chase a target in ODi's

Who was the better leader?

Who was the better fielder?

In short who was the the better package for Package!

:sarf

Not sure who was was better for Pakistan cricket but credit to Misbah for steering the ship of Pakistan cricket in desperate times.

I would choose Yousaf to bat for my life.

I would again choose Yousaf to chase a target in ODIs.

None of them is the leader. Though Younis IMO was a better captain among them.

Younis was the better fielder.

Younis was the better package for test matches and Yousaf for ODIs.
 
Younis Khan wins in tests, Yousuf in ODIs while Misbah is a non factor.
 
Yousuf in every department. Surprised at how many people don't realise you'd be as good as dead with Younis on anything other than a road.

Misbah has been a great leader in a turbulent time but in terms of batsmanship he isn't in the same class as some of our ATG's.
 
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None.

Inzi was the best among Moyo and him.

Moyo is the king of making soft runs. Failed everywhere outside Asia except one good season in England.

Inzi and Younus Khan both are better away.

Misbah is king vs. spin and a great pressure player. But just below the Inzi league.
 
None.

Inzi was the best among Moyo and him.

Moyo is the king of making soft runs. Failed everywhere outside Asia except one good season in England.

Inzi and Younus Khan both are better away.

Misbah is king vs. spin and a great pressure player. But just below the Inzi league.

Younis eats Misbah for lunch as far as ability to play spin is concerned
 
Who was better for Pakistan cricket?

Who would you choose to bat for your life

Who would you choose to chase a target in ODi's

Who was the better leader?

Who was the better fielder?

In short who was the the better package for Package!

:sarf

  • Who was better for Pakistan cricket? - Misbah > Younus > Yousuf


  • Who would you choose to bat for your life - Younus > Misbah > Yousuf (MoYo was a renowned bottler)


  • Who would you choose to chase a target in ODi's - If Inzi is there to bat with him, then Yousuf. If no Inzi, then we're in trouble and I'd go Misbah > Yousuf > Younus


  • Who was the better leader? - Misbah >>>>>>>>>>>> Younus = Yousuf (No explanation should be necessary)


  • Who was the better fielder? - Younus >= Misbah >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yousuf (Younus is the best slip catcher, Misbah has made some stunning catches in the point/cover regions and MoYo was just awful in the field)


  • In short who was the the better package for Package! - Define better? Misbah has been the most important figure of the three, Younus is the most valuable test batsman of the three and Yousuf is the guy who looked the most like a once in a generational kind of talent out of the three and was great in both tests and ODIs.
 
  • Who was better for Pakistan cricket? - Misbah > Younus > Yousuf


  • Who would you choose to bat for your life - Younus > Misbah > Yousuf (MoYo was a renowned bottler)


  • Who would you choose to chase a target in ODi's - If Inzi is there to bat with him, then Yousuf. If no Inzi, then we're in trouble and I'd go Misbah > Yousuf > Younus


  • Who was the better leader? - Misbah >>>>>>>>>>>> Younus = Yousuf (No explanation should be necessary)


  • Who was the better fielder? - Younus >= Misbah >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yousuf (Younus is the best slip catcher, Misbah has made some stunning catches in the point/cover regions and MoYo was just awful in the field)


  • In short who was the the better package for Package! - Define better? Misbah has been the most important figure of the three, Younus is the most valuable test batsman of the three and Yousuf is the guy who looked the most like a once in a generational kind of talent out of the three and was great in both tests and ODIs.

Younis smokes Yousuf as captain and is arguably better than Misbah save his hot head
 
Who was better for Pakistan cricket? - Both Y's

Who would you choose to bat for your life ? Younis in tests and Yousuf in ODIs

Who would you choose to chase a target in ODi's? - Inzi only (none of them are good chasers)

Who was the better leader? Younis was shrewd ( MISBAH - yes man and man management)

Who was the better fielder? Younis.

In short who was the the better package for Package! Younis in tests and Yousuf in ODIs



MISBAH cannot score quick in ODIs, cannot score those daddy hundreds in tests, cannot be shrewd and aggressive captain.. But what he achieved as a leader during the tumultuous period was great but failed to build a strong unit in the process concentrating on controversy free cricket.
 
If I was 300 runs behind in the fourth innings of a test and I wanted someone to bat out a day to save the test I would select Younis Khan no questions asked.

If I had to chase 270 odd in an ODI and I was 20/3, I would bet my bottom dollar on Muhammad Yousuf to guide me home.



Misbah should not even be in this conversation, he has quite a mediocre record as a batsman and he is only put on the pedestal because of his captaincy (which was atrocious everywhere except for Tests)
 
If I was 300 runs behind in the fourth innings of a test and I wanted someone to bat out a day to save the test I would select Younis Khan no questions asked.

If I had to chase 270 odd in an ODI and I was 20/3, I would bet my bottom dollar on Muhammad Yousuf to guide me home.



Misbah should not even be in this conversation, he has quite a mediocre record as a batsman and he is only put on the pedestal because of his captaincy (which was atrocious everywhere except for Tests)

If you are 300 runs behind:

then YK at #3 failed big time in 1st inning.
 
None.

Inzi was the best among Moyo and him.

Moyo is the king of making soft runs. Failed everywhere outside Asia except one good season in England.

Inzi and Younus Khan both are better away.

Misbah is king vs. spin and a great pressure player. But just below the Inzi league.
Struggles vs Left Arm spin and is by no means a 'king' lol.

Younis Khan is the definition of a king vs spin.
 
Younis Khan is an all time great, don't insult him by mentioning Moyo or King Tuk in the same sentence as the great khan
 
If you are 300 runs behind:

then YK at #3 failed big time in 1st inning.

Please revisit your post, it doesn't make any sense.

Scenario:

Team A bats first gets dismissed for 200

Team B (which has YK playing for it) bats second and gets dismissed for 250, YK scores 70 odd.

Team A in the third innings amasses 550 in the third innings

Team B is 300 runs behind and has a day to play out, chasing the target is too big of a mountain to climb.
 
Younis smokes Yousuf as captain and is arguably better than Misbah save his hot head

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Younus threw his toys out of the pram on more than one occasions when offered the captaincy and had over half the team revolt against him and deliberately under perform in games just to get rid of him.

He's a terrible leader of men.
 
Who was better for Pakistan cricket? Misbah for being a role model in terms of attitude and behaviour. No more tantrums and constant infighting with him around.

Who would you choose to bat for your life? Younis has the best 4th innings record in the world and bats long. Yousuf of 2006 is the best of the lot but he wasn't a pressure player.

Who would you choose to chase a target in ODi's? Everyone will probably go with Yousuf but I can't remember him playing too many clutch knocks in successful chases. I remember Younis being the architect of quite a few successful chases where he scored match-winning hundreds, against England in England in 2006, against India in Mohali in 2007, and against India in Karachi in 2008.

Who was the better leader?
Younis was captain of the 2009 World T20 winning team and the shrewdest tactician of the lot, handpicked by Woolmer to be his captain after Inzi. He was a great man manager and still is contrary to popular belief. His biggest flaw was his lack of diplomacy when dealing with senior players in a culture like Pakistan, fell victim to the Miandad syndrome. Misbah was a little to defensive in his captaincy but he often made it work guiding us to No. 1 in the world in tests with the Test mace in his hands. Won us an Asia cup too, as well as series' abroad against India and South Africa in odi's. His biggest asset diplomacy with the board, coach, Younis, and Afridi.

Who was the better fielder? Younis may be Pakistan's best outfielder ever. No other outfielder has as many catches as him for Pakistan in tests and odi's. Misbah is a good fielder too with some stunning catches recorded during the course of his career.

In short who was the the better package for Package! Yousuf should have been the biggest player of the three but if his 2006 records are broken in the near future he will be forgotten by most. A modern day Zaheer Abbas. Younis has his haters and rightly so for all the tantrums he's thrown over the course of his career but his records in tests will probably never be broken by another Pakistani considering the limited amount of tests we play. A modern day Javed Miandad, especially in tests.
For some Misbah is the second coming of Imran, but he's more like the second coming of A.H. Kardar who established Pakistan cricket. Misbah reestablished it when we were at our lowest ebb. But, in terms of captaincy, for which Misbah will be remembered, both Imran and Mushtaq Mohammad are far ahead. Misbah is way too defensive and left behind someone like Azhar as his successor, nevertheless he was exactly what Pakistan needed post-2010.
 
Who was better for Pakistan cricket? Misbah for being a role model in terms of attitude and behaviour. No more tantrums and constant infighting with him around.

Who would you choose to bat for your life? Younis has the best 4th innings record in the world and bats long. Yousuf of 2006 is the best of the lot but he wasn't a pressure player.

Who would you choose to chase a target in ODi's? Everyone will probably go with Yousuf but I can't remember him playing too many clutch knocks in successful chases. I remember Younis being the architect of quite a few successful chases where he scored match-winning hundreds, against England in England in 2006, against India in Mohali in 2007, and against India in Karachi in 2008.

Who was the better leader?
Younis was captain of the 2009 World T20 winning team and the shrewdest tactician of the lot, handpicked by Woolmer to be his captain after Inzi. He was a great man manager and still is contrary to popular belief. His biggest flaw was his lack of diplomacy when dealing with senior players in a culture like Pakistan, fell victim to the Miandad syndrome. Misbah was a little to defensive in his captaincy but he often made it work guiding us to No. 1 in the world in tests with the Test mace in his hands. Won us an Asia cup too, as well as series' abroad against India and South Africa in odi's. His biggest asset diplomacy with the board, coach, Younis, and Afridi.

Who was the better fielder? Younis may be Pakistan's best outfielder ever. No other outfielder has as many catches as him for Pakistan in tests and odi's. Misbah is a good fielder too with some stunning catches recorded during the course of his career.

In short who was the the better package for Package! Yousuf should have been the biggest player of the three but if his 2006 records are broken in the near future he will be forgotten by most. A modern day Zaheer Abbas. Younis has his haters and rightly so for all the tantrums he's thrown over the course of his career but his records in tests will probably never be broken by another Pakistani considering the limited amount of tests we play. A modern day Javed Miandad, especially in tests.
For some Misbah is the second coming of Imran, but he's more like the second coming of A.H. Kardar who established Pakistan cricket. Misbah reestablished it when we were at our lowest ebb. But, in terms of captaincy, for which Misbah will be remembered, both Imran and Mushtaq Mohammad are far ahead. Misbah is way too defensive and left behind someone like Azhar as his successor, nevertheless he was exactly what Pakistan needed post-2010.

Best outfielder who did most of his fielding in the 30. :facepalm:
 
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Younis wipes the floor with both Yousuf and Misbah as a cricketer.

Yousuf was the king of soft runs and minnow basher. I do not rate him at all. Has not scored a single 50 in any WC game against a non-associate or non-minnow team. Did not score a single 50 in any 280+ chase. Averages in 30s in test matches won.

Misbah was an average batsman but a good leader. However, Younis was tactically better and won a WT20.
 
Best outfielder who did most of his fielding in the 30. :facepalm:

By outfielder I mean non-wicketkeeping fielders. Outfield players are players who aren't the keeper in most sports. I did not mean he fielded outside the 30 yard circle of the cricket field his entire career. Don't know how you reached that conclusion. :facepalm:
 
Hoestly it's disrespectful to yousuf and younis to be compared with misbah. Azhar Ali is 10x then batsmen misbah ever will be and here you are comparing them 2 with misbah. It's like Tendulkar being compared to shehzad.
 
Younis was best for Pakistan cricket.
Younis to bat for my life.
In odis to chase a target I'll pick Moyo
Best leader I'll go with Misbah but Younis wasn't a bad captain at all.
Best fielder was Younis

In ranking it's

YK
Moyo
Misbah

Moyo is better to watch than YK, but YK grit and character gives him the edge.
 
Yousuf.

And I read someone wrote in another thread that Yousuf will not be remembered like Misbah and Younis which is not true.

May be Misbah/Younis will be remembered more by some die heart Pak cric fans but Yousuf will be remembered more by common/average Pak cricket fans. I have not played club cricket but lot of street cricket in the middle class areas of Islamabad and there was a time when Yousuf used to be the role model of kids. Die heart cric fans go deep in stats by country. Average/Common cric fans dont have time for this and Yousuf was a better odi bat which most of our country watches/used to watch before t20s. Yousuf played his last match 6 years back but still remembered by fans. Lets see how it goes for the other two. Btw Misbah's has gained good popularity in last 3 years. Those who used to call him Tuk Tuk are his fans now.
 
Younis in Tests, Yousuf in ODIs Misbah is nowhere near them as a batsman
 
Pakistan's best ODI batsman since the 90s - Inzi
Pakistan's best Test batsman since the 90s - Younis

Moyo was great through especially through his magical year.
 
Younis wipes the floor with both Yousuf and Misbah as a cricketer.

Yousuf was the king of soft runs and minnow basher. I do not rate him at all. Has not scored a single 50 in any WC game against a non-associate or non-minnow team. Did not score a single 50 in any 280+ chase. Averages in 30s in test matches won.

Misbah was an average batsman but a good leader. However, Younis was tactically better and won a WT20.

Each and every point I agree. I dont get why people overrate Moyo so much. This aesthetic terms comes so much for him as if its a big deal in terms of teams success contributions.
 
Who was better for Pakistan cricket?

Who would you choose to bat for your life

Who would you choose to chase a target in ODi's

Who was the better leader?

Who was the better fielder?

In short who was the the better package for Package!

:sarf

Let's come to it one by one.

Each of them were better in their own ways. So, it depends on what are we talking about.I would have Misbah>Yk>Moyo

Younis no doubt to bat for life.

Yousuf in odis was the best of three in most aspects.

Misbah. Yousuf less said the better.

Younis. Yousuf again last.

Younis- the test batsmen and Misbah-the captain were better package than anything else.Yousuf was the best of three in odis but that doesnt mean much not because odis are of less value(I consider them very very valuable) but because he was just a good odi player and not a great one.
 
Let's come to it one by one.

Each of them were better in their own ways. So, it depends on what are we talking about.I would have Misbah>Yk>Moyo

Younis no doubt to bat for life.

Yousuf in odis was the best of three in most aspects.

Misbah. Yousuf less said the better.

Younis. Yousuf again last.

Younis- the test batsmen and Misbah-the captain were better package than anything else.Yousuf was the best of three in odis but that doesnt mean much not because odis are of less value(I consider them very very valuable) but because he was just a good odi player and not a great one.

Yousuf a v.good odi player and a v.good test player. Has scored memorable dominating centuries like against Warne and Mcgrath.
Misbah a good odi bat and a good test bat (can be said as v.good)
Younis great test bat but extremely poor odi bat considering the no of matches he played.

Also Yousuf was the most watchable of all and thats why you see teenagers copied his batting style and players like Usman Salahuddin , Asad Shafiq before they were in team called him as idol. You might not agree but during the mid 2000s he was the idol of kids and teenagers (I can say with surety for Islamabad). Like we used to say oye tu Tendulkar banay ga, Lara banay ga similarly oye tu Yousuf banay ga. Have hardly seen such a thing for any other Pak batsman (I started watching cricket in 1996).

So batting alone test and odis combined Yousuf wins it (i would say easily) but yeah if we consider captaincy too then it can be said that Younis won world cup t20 and Misbah had no 1 test team while on the other side Yousuf was a really poor captain.
 
Yousuf a v.good odi player and a v.good test player. Has scored memorable dominating centuries like against Warne and Mcgrath.
Misbah a good odi bat and a good test bat (can be said as v.good)
Younis great test bat but extremely poor odi bat considering the no of matches he played.

Also Yousuf was the most watchable of all and thats why you see teenagers copied his batting style and players like Usman Salahuddin , Asad Shafiq before they were in team called him as idol. You might not agree but during the mid 2000s he was the idol of kids and teenagers (I can say with surety for Islamabad). Like we used to say oye tu Tendulkar banay ga, Lara banay ga similarly oye tu Yousuf banay ga. Have hardly seen such a thing for any other Pak batsman (I started watching cricket in 1996).

So batting alone test and odis combined Yousuf wins it (i would say easily) but yeah if we consider captaincy too then it can be said that Younis won world cup t20 and Misbah had no 1 test team while on the other side Yousuf was a really poor captain.

I know all that but he scored only one hundred vs Warne which was a great inning in losing cause and didn't impacted the game at all and barting that he doesn't have much to show vs Aus and SA- two of the best attacks. He struggled against them in most of the innings and then he was poor in India and SL -the two spin friendly conditions. One hundred in losing cause in MCG or here/there doesn't makes up for all his other failures.

Scored lots of soft runs, failed in WCs, a poor fielder and was a pathetic leader and doesn't know how to have a smart discussion with his co- workers of-field.

If someone is saying to become like Yousuf, then he is no doubt opting for a wrong person as his inspiration or idol IMO.
 
I know all that but he scored only one hundred vs Warne which was a great inning in losing cause and didn't impacted the game at all and barting that he doesn't have much to show vs Aus and SA- two of the best attacks. He struggled against them in most of the innings and then he was poor in India and SL -the two spin friendly conditions. One hundred in losing cause in MCG or here/there doesn't makes up for all his other failures.

Scored lots of soft runs, failed in WCs, a poor fielder and was a pathetic leader and doesn't know how to have a smart discussion with his co- workers of-field.

If someone is saying to become like Yousuf, then he is no doubt opting for a wrong person as his inspiration or idol IMO.

yeah fair points. that one hundred was just an example. i am talking as a common cricket fan, if we go deep down then we will find different flaws in every batsman.

Till 2007 he was considered a v.nice and humble man (still considered in quite few circles). Its after that things changed.
 
There ia so much to write in this thread.

Better package: younus. If younus would have been captain we would have alot more than misbah. This is my view.
You all can disagree.
Further odi batsmen yousuf. Younis is ahead of him in tests.

Misbah isn't close to yousuf in odis ot younis in tests.
 
But one can argue misbah as better package.. he was ordinary-good in all aspects mentioned in op. But not pathetic in any.
 
Who was better for Pakistan cricket?

Who would you choose to bat for your life

Who would you choose to chase a target in ODi's

Who was the better leader?

Who was the better fielder?

In short who was the the better package for Package!

:sarf

YK for all criteria IMO.

He was a great servant for us who toiled away for so many years despite the last few years but the darkest days for our cricket legacy. Continued to play desite his personal setbacks and being on the road all the time and a true role model for up and coming cricketers.

Certainly would bank on him to bat for my life and would know he has the ability to score big in Tests. Even in ODI's he was a great chaser in our prime and played a big role when we chased 321 vs India in Mohali and 309 agains them in Karachi during the 2008 Asia Cup. Moyo was a better ODI cricketer without a doubt but a poor chase.

YK lost the dressing room but he was a tactically astute captain who won us our only ICC trophy during the last 25 years. On top of it he is/was a great fielder at slips.

Moyo is a fantastic batsman but not as great of a player against spin and bounce. All formats combined - he is probably better than YK but YK easily meets the criteria set by the OP.

The less said about Misbah the better....
 
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