Younis Khan vs Rahul Dravid : the drive to coach young cricketers

[Muhammad Kaleem]

The win of India against Australia made me think about Rahul Dravid role in it, and then my train of thoughts led me to compare him with Younis Khan. On one hand, a legend like Ravid Dravid worked in background to train and groom young cricketers for future, on much lesser pay than coach of their national team, and on the other hand our batting legend Younis Khan had too much demands and nakhray when PCB approached him for training U-19 team. https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/news/detail/younis-khan-declines-pcbs-offer-to-coach-under-19-team

Reportedly PCB offered him 13 lakh rupees but Younis Khan wanted more. http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...t-Shoaib-Akhtar-slams-PCB-for-U19-performance

13 lakh rupees per month is not a small amount from perspective of Pakistani cricket and you wont die from hunger. PCB would have increased his salary with time if he had delivered good results.

Now that Younis Khan has accepted the role of batting coach of national team under Misbah, its obvious that he considered coaching u-19 beneath his grace and dignity hence big demands and nakhray for compensation. Noticeably he took leave during Zimababwe tour to Pakistan, but is always available for abroad tour. He never fails to mentions in his interviews that he has made 10,000 runs. He reminds men of Javed Miandad.

What are your thoughts on the comparison?

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Younus has actually helped our batsmen and done well so far. So I won't complain.

 

[b.lesner]

Make Shoaib Malik or Muhammad Hafeez as U-19 coach or any modern day great player of Pakistan we don't need to beg to someone who thinks he is bigger than Pakistan cricket.

 

[Savak]

Wasim Khan in an interview confirmed that money was not an issue with WK, the problem was he wanted sweeping powers and the kind of powers Dravid enjoys ie the Head coach and CS of the U16, U19 and A team and also to work with youngsters at the NCA, the PCB didn't agree with this and hence things didn't work out bw then at the time

 

[MenInG]

If Younis Khan can do what Dravid has done for Indian batsmen, he will be a hero forever.

 

[Saj]

The roles are different.

Dravid is working on polishing young, up and coming talent, which is ideal and most of it is at an age where changes can be made and improvements can be done.

Younis Khan however is working with the senior squad and it's very difficult to make major changes when players have been playing domestic and international for several years.

 

[jupiter2007]

Make Shoaib Malik or Muhammad Hafeez as U-19 coach or any modern day great player of Pakistan we don't need to beg to someone who thinks he is bigger than Pakistan cricket.

What are their qualification to coach U-19? Malik is a spot fixer and survived because he had a backing of a strong lobby. Akmal brothers also fall into the same category. Hafeez was given consistent chances for over 10 years even though his batting was below average. He improved his batting in last 5 years.
I would request Basit Ali to coach U-19.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Yoni was not given enough respect by PCB who treated him as just a great cricketer but not as a brand Mr The Younis Khan.

 

[tausiif]

Steven Smith say "hi" to the excuses of " it's very difficult to make major changes for player in international cricket"

The roles are different.

Dravid is working on polishing young, up and coming talent, which is ideal and most of it is at an age where changes can be made and improvements can be done.

Younis Khan however is working with the senior squad and it's very difficult to make major changes when players have been playing domestic and international for several years.

 

[Yk313]

Wasim Khan in an interview confirmed that money was not an issue with WK, the problem was he wanted sweeping powers and the kind of powers Dravid enjoys ie the Head coach and CS of the U16, U19 and A team and also to work with youngsters at the NCA, the PCB didn't agree with this and hence things didn't work out bw then at the time

Think initially there was a delta of around PKR 0.2 million between what was being asked and what was being offered but that was narrowed down too much for it to be significant enough to walk away. By the way he felt he had already agreed to a sum lower than the worth of what he was proposing to do (i.e. the job versus the compensation). Apparently a comparable PSL package was USD 90k.

The straw (was much more than that actually) that broke the camel's back was the gulf between what was being offered in terms of powers and support. Despite Younus having agreed to work with the system (PCB) now - thoroughly dislike him for agreeing to work with this management in any capacity though as I cannot see much good coming from it - one does not need to scratch much below the surface to remember that has always been cynical of the PCB and the incumbent system in PAK.

Apparently Younus, in his application/interview, brought something like a draft contract agreement with his requirements in which:

- He wanted to cover training and scouting at U-19 and junior levels
- He was going to give up and not take up new any roles with PSL franchises (apparently USD 90k); I
think at that point he was with Zalmi in some capacity but I do not know... I don't really follow
T20/T20Is
- He was going to spend c. 6 months on the road across for talent scouting and supervising training
- He wanted picked a team of six individuals including of 3 selectors (scouts)
i) PCB would allocate one admin person to log data and comments of these selectors/scouts
ii) 1 scout for KPK, 1 for Punjab. Younus and Nadeem Khan (whom he wanted to bring in as part of his
team) would cover Sindh and Balochistan out of the Karachi office with trips every 15 days to
Balochistan
iii) Daily conference calls or phone calls across provinces to log progress
iv) Younus' travel would be funded by PCB in coach or economy or similar class. He would want a small
office at National Stadium Karachi for work
v) Younus' picked trainer would liaise and head all the junior trainers. Weekly reports like is the practice
in ENG

Source: most of the points above have been sourced from a 90 minute video interview of Younus which includes him outlining his version of the negotiations. I do not have any official (not rumoured or unofficial reports/tweets) to substantiate his version or get PCB's version.

 

[moghul]

Make Shoaib Malik or Muhammad Hafeez as U-19 coach or any modern day great player of Pakistan we don't need to beg to someone who thinks he is bigger than Pakistan cricket.

I think both of then will make very good coaches for the young cricketers. Bot of them relatively young ( for coach ) can match the youngsters in fitness, very experienced and well aware to modern style of game.

 

[moghul]

Younis Khan will be a good coach for under 19 players, but his labile temperament has been am issue. He picks up fights easily.

 

[Savak]

Think initially there was a delta of around PKR 0.2 million between what was being asked and what was being offered but that was narrowed down too much for it to be significant enough to walk away. By the way he felt he had already agreed to a sum lower than the worth of what he was proposing to do (i.e. the job versus the compensation). Apparently a comparable PSL package was USD 90k.

The straw (was much more than that actually) that broke the camel's back was the gulf between what was being offered in terms of powers and support. Despite Younus having agreed to work with the system (PCB) now - thoroughly dislike him for agreeing to work with this management in any capacity though as I cannot see much good coming from it - one does not need to scratch much below the surface to remember that has always been cynical of the PCB and the incumbent system in PAK.

Apparently Younus, in his application/interview, brought something like a draft contract agreement with his requirements in which:

- He wanted to cover training and scouting at U-19 and junior levels
- He was going to give up and not take up new any roles with PSL franchises (apparently USD 90k); I
think at that point he was with Zalmi in some capacity but I do not know... I don't really follow
T20/T20Is
- He was going to spend c. 6 months on the road across for talent scouting and supervising training
- He wanted picked a team of six individuals including of 3 selectors (scouts)
i) PCB would allocate one admin person to log data and comments of these selectors/scouts
ii) 1 scout for KPK, 1 for Punjab. Younus and Nadeem Khan (whom he wanted to bring in as part of his
team) would cover Sindh and Balochistan out of the Karachi office with trips every 15 days to
Balochistan
iii) Daily conference calls or phone calls across provinces to log progress
iv) Younus' travel would be funded by PCB in coach or economy or similar class. He would want a small
office at National Stadium Karachi for work
v) Younus' picked trainer would liaise and head all the junior trainers. Weekly reports like is the practice
in ENG

Source: most of the points above have been sourced from a 90 minute video interview of Younus which includes him outlining his version of the negotiations. I do not have any official (not rumoured or unofficial reports/tweets) to substantiate his version or get PCB's version.

Don't know why the PCB didn't agree to this. If YK is agreeing to put in this kind of time, effort for Pakistan Cricket, the PCB should have given him a fair compensation package definitely above FMV considering that he was going to give up being involved in the PSL. The PCB went for Ijaz Ahmed instead? That is just lame and beyond my understanding and the justification the PCB gave was that the PCB didn't have the budgets to agree to YK's demands and that Ijaz has been in the role before.

 

[Savak]

Even Yousaf has clarified in some interviews when the PCB approached him to coach at the NCA before, he obviously demanded a fair compensation deal which will compensate him for missing out on media gigs, tending to various business interests he had on the side. In principle you should pay a legend above FMV.

The PCB apparently got back to him saying that the PCB didn't have the budget to meet his remuneration demands and even then Yousaf was willing to compromise and told them, how much are you prepared to offer me, i want to help the youngsters and will agree to an amount lower than what i demanded for the sake of the country, however the PCB never got back to him.

Thank goodness, the PCB now has the money to offer above FMV compensation to YK and Yousaf.

 

[Justcrazy]

Dravid is much better than Younis as a coach as well as a player.

 

[Yk313]

Don't know why the PCB didn't agree to this. If YK is agreeing to put in this kind of time, effort for Pakistan Cricket, the PCB should have given him a fair compensation package definitely above FMV considering that he was going to give up being involved in the PSL. The PCB went for Ijaz Ahmed instead? That is just lame and beyond my understanding and the justification the PCB gave was that the PCB didn't have the budgets to agree to YK's demands and that Ijaz has been in the role before.

Just don’t think YK is a guy with a mindset to thrive in a situation where he only has limited say on decisions.

His biggest qualm when he was being named captain was that he did not want to be a dummy/ceremonial captain. His rationale being that a captain is responsible for the team’s performance, good or bad. And if he’s to face the criticism when things falter, he should at least have the autonomy of choosing his team so that he can ownership of it. Much preferred the brash and cynical Younus than the mellowed individual who is our batting coach now. Similarly, his role as batting coach of the international side is likely to be pretty limited.

Until and unless he goes to NHPC and spends months at end with the squad and ideally also some budding players, none of the other things will matter. The performance will only trend downwards and he will deservedly get the boot and join a long list of former players turned failed coaches.

Part of me just wants the Flower rumour to be true so that YK can somehow be “demoted” to the junior squad.