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Your five greatest batsmen of all time?

MMHS said:
What you are saying is absolute rubbidh again - that's quite evident when I find your usual rant missing from my post regarding Kapil, Vishi, Kumble or Kohli, even Srinath, just like PP missed you after the ICC voting ended in May.

This is a personal list & I have put my choices - don't bother what some random troll thinks for that. In the list of top 5 bowlers, I didn't put few popular choices there either & posters didn't came here barking for not picking their heroes - that's the difference in class.
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Your list is posted on a public forum and i will give my opinion about it.

I am regularly posting on PP.ICC voting was in June.Atleast get your dates sorted out.

I know you hate it when you get called out for your bias and hatred towards Indians.You think long winded immaculately worded posts will mean you cannot be called out.
 
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Alright guys let's chill. At the end of the day it's all opinions. One guy's list would be completely different than the next and it says it all :)
 
1. Bradman
2. Viv Richards
3. Sachin
4. Hutton
5. Sobers

Followed by Hobbs and Lara.

Hutton is the most overlooked of the bunch. He was the first batsman to face truly all time great attacks with serious pace rivalling the modern game. Not to mention, he scored loads of runs against some great spinners too. Scored more runs against ATG attacks than almost any other batsman.
 
Robert said:
Bradman first obviously, then Hobbs, then Sobers, Richards and Lara.

I always felt that Tendulkar could go AWOL under pressure. He's still be in my top ten, with Headley, Hammond, Hutton and Miandad.
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How do you define a pressure situation? Sachin has played some gems in pressure situations and his reputation as some choker comes primarily from the 1999 Chennai test (where his back was injured and was one of the best 4th inning centuries ever anyway) and the two failures in WC finals. He scored so many high pressure runs.
 
Cuts_and_cuts_hard said:
1. Bradman
2. Viv Richards
3. Sachin
4. Hutton
5. Sobers

Followed by Hobbs and Lara.

Hutton is the most overlooked of the bunch. He was the first batsman to face truly all time great attacks with serious pace rivalling the modern game. Not to mention, he scored loads of runs against some great spinners too. Scored more runs against ATG attacks than almost any other batsman.
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My issue with Hutton is he was Kallis kind of player from what I have read. His estimated SR is in 30s. I know he played in a completely different era and that too as an opener but from what I have read, bowlers preferred to bowl to Hutton over Compton and May because the former would just block the good delivery while laters would even try to hit those for boundaries. That's why I am bit reluctant to put him at the top.

Otherwise his record is just phenomenal.
 
Chrish said:
My issue with Hutton is he was Kallis kind of player from what I have read. His estimated SR is in 30s. I know he played in a completely different era and that too as an opener but from what I have read, bowlers preferred to bowl to Hutton over Compton and May because the former would just block the good delivery while laters would even try to hit those for boundaries. That's why I am bit reluctant to put him at the top.

Otherwise his record is just phenomenal.
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But he's an opening batsman. Strike rate doesn't matter much for openers whose primary job is to see off the new ball. If an opener consistently plays 100 balls every innings it can be a huge asset.

More attacking openers have poor overseas records since stroke play is a risky option at the start of the innings. All the best openers are first and foremost great defensive batsman : Hobbs, Hutton, Gavaskar.
 
Cuts_and_cuts_hard said:
But he's an opening batsman. Strike rate doesn't matter much for openers whose primary job is to see off the new ball. If an opener consistently plays 100 balls every innings it can be a huge asset.

More attacking openers have poor overseas records since stroke play is a risky option at the start of the innings. All the best openers are first and foremost great defensive batsman : Hobbs, Hutton, Gavaskar.
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Hobbs wasn't a wall type opener in the manner Hutton and Sunny were; perhaps one of the main reasons why he is usually rated higher.
 
1. Sachin Tendulkar - The greatest to have wielded the willow.

2. Don Bradman - For being a freakish statistical anomaly.

3. Viv Richards - For veritably owning the game and the bowlers during a large stretch of his career

4. Gavaskar - The archetype test cricket opener

5. Lara - The very definition of a flawed, mercurial genius
 
of the ones I have seen

Sachin
Sanga
Lara
Ponting
Younis Khan
 
AMSS said:
1. Sachin Tendulkar - The greatest to have wielded the willow.

2. Don Bradman - For being a freakish statistical anomaly.

3. Viv Richards - For veritably owning the game and the bowlers during a large stretch of his career

4. Gavaskar - The archetype test cricket opener

5. Lara - The very definition of a flawed, mercurial genius
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great post. very well assesd one of the best here superbly illustrating merits of all the greats.In only test cricket Lara may overshadow Tendulkar .
 
Specialisttailender said:
No Lara for me, bullied on flat pitch and pounced on weaker bowlers while getting away from tougher bowlers.
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Lara had far less easy series than most great batsmen. And he managed a better record vs all the best bowlers of his era (Gough, Donald, McWarne, Murali etc) than Tendulkar, except for vs Akram, vs whom Tendy averaged 32 and Lara 30.
 
TestMatch said:
Lara had far less easy series than most great batsmen. And he managed a better record vs all the best bowlers of his era (Gough, Donald, McWarne, Murali etc) than Tendulkar, except for vs Akram, vs whom Tendy averaged 32 and Lara 30.
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Tendulkar never faced Gough in a test (not that he is a top tier ATG bowler like the rest anyway). He did face Walsh, Ambrose, Steyn who Lara did not face and did exceedingly well.

Tendulkar has 2 hundreds against Donald and one against Wasim, Lara has none against either. Two bowlers Lara did better than SRT were against McGrath and Murali. SRT and Lara both toyed against Warne.

Lara did pad his stats against SA and Pakistan once their attack became weaker. Didn't do too well in Australia and Zew Zealand either. Had one great series in England. Not really a great player overseas..
 
Harsh Thakor said:
Lara was in test cricket probably 2nd to Bradman.No batsmen single handedly held the fort and turned games for such a weak batting side or registered so many marathon scores.After scoring a century no great batsmen surpassed Lara's scoring rate,In a crisis he turned more games than Viv or Sachin.Morally almost a certainty in the top 4 ahead of Sobers.Best contender for fifth could also be Walter Hammond.Hammond was like a Viv Richards of his day. Nevertheless respect your choices.
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In my mind, you overrate Lara, who is my favorite batsman. Yes, he had some crazy feats but during his time, the general consensus was that Tendulkar was better.

Lara was not that consistent, especially in the 90s. He had certain technical weaknesses outside off stump where were exposed by McGrath. And though he was brilliant against spin, he was shaky against pure pace. A genius, but a flawed one.

I opt for Tendulkar, more consistent and fewer weaknesses.
 
Harsh Thakor is a cricket writer who writes professionally if I am not mistaken.

That's why his threads/ questions are bit repetitive. He wants to hear all the view points of different posters so he might hear a fresh perspective on something or discover some new information.
 
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