Zimbabwe v Pakistan | 2nd ODI | Harare | Pre-Discussion and Preview Thread

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The Big Picture

Pakistan could wrap up the ODI series in Harare, with a match to spare for experimentation. They held their nerve in a tense victory on Thursday, but will want to consolidate their position by turning in a more dominant performance this time.

For that, they will need a better start from the opening batsmen and bigger contributions from the middle order. If that happens, and is complimented with the same feistiness Younis Khan and Misbah-ul-Haq showed in the first match, the batting line-up will provide a formidable challenge to Zimbabwe. Pakistan's fast bowlers can look forward to a more helpful surface and Zimbabwe will have to steel themselves to contend with the likes of Aizaz Cheema in more accommodating conditions. The visiting spinners did a good containing job in the first match and much of the same will be expected of them in Harare.

Zimbabwe will want to prove their performance against Bangladesh was not a one-off. They have left the curse of Bulawayo behind and return to the happy hunting ground of Harare. The venue itself should lift the home team, who prefer the bounce and carry of the Harare pitch to the slower surface in Bulawayo. Zimbabwe's bowling attack will be more comfortable with the slight assistance they will receive, although coach Alan Butcher acknowledged that they will have to work harder against Pakistan than they did against Bangladesh.

On the whole, Zimbabwe have shown signs of progress, remaining competitive until the final over of the first ODI and scoring over 240 runs in the chase. They also impressed with the ball, reining Pakistan in to a manageable total after Younis got off to a flier. All that effort amounted to nothing in the results column though, so Zimbabwe will have to remind themselves not to get too demoralised by defeat and to continue to learn as the summer progresses.

Form guide (most recent first)

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In the spotlight

Hamiltom Masakadza has embodied the poor form of Zimbabwe in Bulawayo, having scored only 43 runs in the three ODIs there this summer. He also failed in the Test match and has been persisting through a mini-lean patch that he will want to end soon. While his technique has improved and his maturity is now evident, Masakadza has to get on top of bowling attacks more, especially since he bats at the crucial No. 3 spot. He has been out in single figures in nine of his last 15 ODI innings and will want to show that he can be more consistent. Masakadza's medium-pacers have also become key partnership breakers for Zimbabwe and he will enjoy the chance to bowl again, if it is given to him.

His return to international cricket went almost unnoticed, but Shoaib Malik will want to prove that he still has what it takes to perform at the top level. He was out to an outlandish catch from Tatenda Taibu in Bulawayo, after facing only five balls, so spending some time at the crease is bound to at the top of Malik's agenda after being out of the game for over a year. The last time he played a big innings was during the Champions Trophy in 2009, when Pakistan beat India.

Team news

Zimbabwe are likely go back to their three-pronged seam attack, bringing back Kyle Jarvis and Brian Vitori. If they also include a spinner in Ray Price, it will mean shortening their batting line-up, something they have expressed concern over. Their other option is to use allrounder Greg Lamb as the solitary spinner and bolster the batting line-up. Malcolm Waller's position may in doubt in the middle order as Zimbabwe look to settle the number six and seven positions, and Craig Ervine could return.

Zimbabwe: (probable) 1 Vusi Sibanda, 2 Chamu Chibhabha, 3 Hamilton Masakadza, 4 Brendan Taylor, 5 Tatenda Taibu, 6 Malcolm Waller/Craig Ervine, 7 Elton Chigumbura, 8 Ray Price/Greg Lamb, 9 Brian Vitori, 10 Kyle Jarvis, 11 Chris Mpofu.

Pakistan will also want to emphasise on pace, taking into account the Harare pitch, and would most likely retain a three-man seam attack. Junaid Khan was expensive and may be replaced with Sohail Khan, but Aizaz Cheema impressed and Sohail Tanvir should keep his place as well. Pakistan indicated that all 17 members of their squad will get a game and, so far, legspinner Yasir Shah, opening batsmen Rameez Raja and No. 3 Asad Shafiq are yet to play. Shah would have been more effective in Bulawayo and may have to sit out for now, but Rameez could replace Imran Farhat if Pakistan want to experiment.

Pakistan: (probable) 1 Mohammad Hafeez, 2 Imran Farhat/Rameez Raja, 3 Younis Khan, 4 Misbah-ul-Haq, 5 Shoaib Malik, 6 Umar Akmal, 7 Adnan Akmal, 8 Sohail Tanvir, 9 Saeed Ajmal, 10 Junaid Khan/Sohail Khan, 11 Aizaz Cheema.

Pitch and conditions

Brendan Taylor would say that the tour has finally moved out of the subcontinent when the match in Harare gets underway. Although the pitch will not offer as much bounce and movement as Taylor may want, there will definitely be more in it for the bowlers than there was in Bulawayo, negating the role of the spinners slightly. An all-round cricket surface, the pitch will also be easier to bat on and should produce a high-scoring contest. Harare is slightly cooler than Bulawayo, although with summer approaching, a warm day is expected.

Stats and trivia

Of Taylor's four ODI hundreds, three have been in losing causes for Zimbabwe. The century that he scored in a victory was against Sri Lanka last year, and is Taylor's only ton in Harare.
Younis' average against Zimbabwe is 50.85 - better than his average against any other team that he has played more than three matches against. He has never scored a hundred against them.
Quotes

"Different conditions in Harare may make us think of a different attack. Vitori's omission was tactical, but I'm sure he will play a role in Harare." Zimbabwe coach Alan Butcher indicates that his team's composition will change in Harare

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent
 
Rameez Raja opening with Hafeez. Yasir Shah in place of Junaid Khan.
 
^ its fast bowling track why 2 spinners. I wish they stick with Junaid.
 
I doubt Junaid will be replaced, he is useful when bowling in the death.
 
Rameez Raja opening with Hafeez. Yasir Shah in place of Junaid Khan.

Yes I hope Rameez Raja is picked for this match instead of Farhat, but You have to go in with three fast bowlers since everyone is saying Harare is a good wicket for quickies.

Besides if there is good bounce Junaid can bey real handy.
 
Farhat needs to be dropped and Rameez Raja should get a game. We also need to end the innings well with the bat, not like the last time...
 
Sadly i think Farhat will be allowed a few more failures until he is kicked out.
 
Asad Shafiq has been so badly mistreated, he really should be in, before ramiz raja. Basically get rid of farhat rest is fine. Ideally i would not have liked younus ( yes he played brilliantly last game but look at his overall record ) or malik but thats not gonna happen
 
why does everyone want ramiz raja in his domestic average is so poor??

O lala, his last season was impressive, it will take him some seasons to polish that average, he is heading towards right direction.

Btw did you watch him during the lat domestic T20?
 
Rameez Raja is being over-hyped for ODIs. Ok, he is good T20 player but not ODI. Why not give chance to Azhar Ali who Averages 46.79
 
Win this game and play the replacements in the dead rubber
 
Yes I hope Rameez Raja is picked for this match instead of Farhat, but You have to go in with three fast bowlers since everyone is saying Harare is a good wicket for quickies.

Besides if there is good bounce Junaid can bey real handy.

I hope they pick a blind, deaf man with no limbs than Farhat. The guy is pathetic and a useless parchi player.

Hopefully Rameez impresses and can cement his place in the team alongside Professor.
 
ramiz should get a go instead of farthead, rest ajmal for yasir shah and shafiq in either for junior or malik
 
I still don't understand why Malik and Farhat are in the squad in the first place. Pakistan should be moving forward, not backwards.

Razzaq is a better all round player then both of them and in terms of quality too BUT yet offering a 'contract' would be a step backwards? Then there's Malik and Farhat who are selected, surley that's a even 'bigger' step backwards. Strange.

Farhat out... Bring in Raja, allow him to show what he's all about. I'd give Ajmal another game and rest him for the 3rd one.

Junaid needs to given a run of series, he's still new to ODI International cricket. The more he plays, the likely he will claim more wickets and the better for him as he'll gain confidence.
 
id rest ajmal and bring in yasir shah, no point giving yasir one game in dead rubber. yasir needs more than one game, and it would also show how he manages himself in a relatively more pressured game. saeed doesnt need to prove anything.

as for farthead, i would like to see any one, asad, azhar or rameez come in his place.

im not sure about malik, with the emergence of professor mk 2 there is less need for malik the all rounder, however i still think hes slightly better odi batsmen than our other younger guys, he is a very good out fielder though.
 
Shafiq should replace Farhat as an opener, no harm in giving Malik few more games , I wish Umar was promoted up the order but don't think that will happen.I feel No.6 is not a right position for him,he isn't an all rounder or wk batsman, he is a proper batsman who can win us single highhandedly.
 
Shafiq should replace Farhat as an opener, no harm in giving Malik few more games , I wish Umar was promoted up the order but don't think that will happen.I feel No.6 is not a right position for him,he isn't an all rounder or wk batsman, he is a proper batsman who can win us single highhandedly.

How many more games does that guy need, he was been poor for the last 20 or so games he has played(refer to the stats posted by W63L34's in some other thread) and we are better of trying Azhar Ali or Rameez Raja in place of Malik
 
Only 1 change. Raja for Farhat. Since malik already got a game so its obvious he wil get 2nd game aswell and rest i think all will be the same... Either Raja or Asad will replace Farhat. But i wish Farhat isnt played in the 2nd game
 
How many more games does that guy need, he was been poor for the last 20 or so games he has played(refer to the stats posted by W63L34's in some other thread) and we are better of trying Azhar Ali or Rameez Raja in place of Malik


because he has earned his place by performing in domestic cricket.Also we need a player like him in the middle overs who can tackle the spin well.he is also a brilliant fielder and can bowl few useful overs too.I don't think Azhar Ali is suited for ODIs, gets bogged down against spinners and can't find boundaries when the field is spread.No.3 would be ideal position for him if we really want to play him.
 
Enough of Tried Tested Failure.

Rameez Raja or Azhar Ali or Asad Shafiq for Imran Farhat

Shoaib Malik keep his place despite been failed but fielding makes him to get another chance.

Umar Akmal Need to push up the order at 3.

This could be the line up second spot still to fill with 4 options including Farhat.

1. Mohammad Hafeez
2. Rameez Raja/Azhar Ali/Asad Shafiq
3. Umar Akmal
4. Younis Khan
5. Misbah-ul-Haq
6. Shoaib Malik
7. Adnan Akmal
8. Sohail Tanvir
9. Saeed Ajmal
10. Junaid Khan
11. Aizaz Cheema

Let see who gets the second spot Imran again or someone else that mention above.
 
No point dropping Malik after one game. He is not a test player but very handy in the limted over format on slow tracks.

Rameez Raja should get a go instead of Farhat and so should Asad Shafiq.

We need to win this one by a decent margin now.
 
Malik Performed in Domestic

Asad Shafiq and Azhar Ali performed in International ODIs and Tests respectively with Azhar Ali not given a proper shot at ODIs yet

How does Malik rate above them? -.-
 
looking forward to watch complete match (hopefully "they" don't drop Malik).
I am expecting a spectacular knock by him.

YK was great in first but as he is not consistent so i wont bank on him...
 
News from Pakistani camp:
No change for the second Odi.Pakistan will play with the same playing XI.
After winning the tomorrow Match.team management decided to rest Younus Khan,
Misbah ul haq or Umar Akmal(one of them) to include Ramiz raja jr and Asad shafiq.Hafeez is expected to lead the team in place of Misbah for the third match.
coach Waqar wants to add Ramiz rana jr in t20 team.he believes it is better format for him to get start...
 
Hafeez
Rameez Raja
Younis Khan
Misbah ul Haq
Shoaib Malik
Umar Akmal
Adnan Akmal
Sohail Tanvir
Saeed Ajmal
Junaid Khan
 
Aaj news reporting that signals indicate Sohail Khan and Rameez Raja Jr to replace Junaid Khan and Imran Farhat respectively
 
Aaj news reporting that signals indicate Sohail Khan and Rameez Raja Jr to replace Junaid Khan and Imran Farhat respectively

also reports about younis khan and misbah r going to take rest and mohammed hafeez i going to lead the team
 
If everyone is given a chance why does Umar Akmal get to play -.-
 
Aaj news reporting that signals indicate Sohail Khan and Rameez Raja Jr to replace Junaid Khan and Imran Farhat respectively

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also reports about younis khan and misbah r going to take rest and mohammed hafeez i going to lead the team

Interesting decision, kudos to whoever made that call.
 
Aaj news reporting that signals indicate Sohail Khan and Rameez Raja Jr to replace Junaid Khan and Imran Farhat respectively

I hope this is true. This tour is for young players and they should be preferred over likes of Farhat.
 
both Rameez Raja and Asad are going to get a game anyway, only question is who gets 2. I'm hoping Asad play tomorrow as well, inplace of Farhat.
 
1. Mohammad Hafeez
2. Asad Shafiq
3. Shoaib Malik
4. Umar Akmal
5. Misbah-ul-Haq
6. Rameez Raja
7. Adnan Akmal
8. Sohail Tanvir
9. Saeed Ajmal
10. Junaid Khan
11. Aizaz Cheema

Know Younis has done well in the last match, but I don't think he really has a future in limited overs cricket. Better to let him focus on test cricket now.

Shoaib Malik should not be playing any lower than four. If he is, he really should be out of the team.

Asad should be in obviously, and I'd like him in as an opener. Very poor decision to play Imran Farhat.

I was actually very disappointed with the team selection last match in general. I would have played Yasir Shah over Sohail Tanvir, but now Sohail Tanvir's done well, might as well let him have another go breaking into the team before we give yasir a turn.
 
The team which played 1st ODI is Pakistan's first choice team. Same team will play SL and England ODIs (with Umar Gul and Wahab Riaz making a comeback at the expense of Aizaz Cheema and Sohail Tanvir/Junaid Khan).
 
The team which played 1st ODI is Pakistan's first choice team. Same team will play SL and England ODIs (with Umar Gul and Wahab Riaz making a comeback at the expense of Aizaz Cheema and Sohail Tanvir/Junaid Khan).

if performance so far is anything to go by surely aizaz is the third choice seamer.

unless tanvir manages some really good final over hitting or takes a few top order wickets id like to see umar, aizaz and wahab.
 
The team which played 1st ODI is Pakistan's first choice team. Same team will play SL and England ODIs (with Umar Gul and Wahab Riaz making a comeback at the expense of Aizaz Cheema and Sohail Tanvir/Junaid Khan).

I really doubt Imran Farhat will play against SL or England, our selectors/management might be stupid but they are not that dumb, are they?
 
1. Mohammad Hafeez
2. Asad Shafiq
3. Shoaib Malik
4. Umar Akmal
5. Misbah-ul-Haq
6. Rameez Raja
7. Adnan Akmal
8. Sohail Tanvir
9. Saeed Ajmal
10. Junaid Khan
11. Aizaz Cheema

Know Younis has done well in the last match, but I don't think he really has a future in limited overs cricket. Better to let him focus on test cricket now.

Shoaib Malik should not be playing any lower than four. If he is, he really should be out of the team.

Asad should be in obviously, and I'd like him in as an opener. Very poor decision to play Imran Farhat.

I was actually very disappointed with the team selection last match in general. I would have played Yasir Shah over Sohail Tanvir, but now Sohail Tanvir's done well, might as well let him have another go breaking into the team before we give yasir a turn.

I agree with that team given the players in the squad. Imagine this team against Sl or Eng.

1. Mohammad Hafeez
2. Asad Shafiq
3. Shoaib Malik
4. Umar Akmal
5. Misbah-ul-Haq (c)
6. Rameez Raja
7. Adnan Akmal (wk)
8. Wahab Riaz
9. Umar Gul
10. Saeed Ajmal
11. Aizaz Cheema
 
Both Misbah and YK should not play in the T20's with Hafeez and Malik leading the team.

I think Hafeez and Malik can make a good partnership I think they are good friends off the pitch too.
 
I agree with that team given the players in the squad. Imagine this team against Sl or Eng.

1. Mohammad Hafeez
2. Asad Shafiq
3. Shoaib Malik
4. Umar Akmal
5. Misbah-ul-Haq (c)
6. Rameez Raja
7. Adnan Akmal (wk)
8. Wahab Riaz
9. Umar Gul
10. Saeed Ajmal
11. Aizaz Cheema
yeah looks like a solid team.

Not convinced by Rameez, I'm not a big fan of giving guys with such a poor overall record in domestic chances. I'd rather he'd have been in domestic a little more, and work to make those averages good first. But yeah he deserves a chance now.

Cheema I'm not sure. He did well, but I think maybe he should focus on tests. I'd rather play Junaid.
 
1. Mohammad Hafeez
2. Asad Shafiq
3. Shoaib Malik
4. Umar Akmal
5. Misbah-ul-Haq
6. Rameez Raja
7. Adnan Akmal
8. Sohail Tanvir
9. Saeed Ajmal
10. Junaid Khan
11. Aizaz Cheema

Know Younis has done well in the last match, but I don't think he really has a future in limited overs cricket. Better to let him focus on test cricket now.

Shoaib Malik should not be playing any lower than four. If he is, he really should be out of the team.

Asad should be in obviously, and I'd like him in as an opener. Very poor decision to play Imran Farhat.

I was actually very disappointed with the team selection last match in general. I would have played Yasir Shah over Sohail Tanvir, but now Sohail Tanvir's done well, might as well let him have another go breaking into the team before we give yasir a turn.

I think,,,its not in his hand...

batting line-up is all messed-up.

can't really move yk and misbah...
 
I think,,,its not in his hand...

batting line-up is all messed-up.

can't really move yk and misbah...
Not saying Malik is making a decision to play at five. He said he'll play anywhere, and I'm sure he was probably stuck at five by the selectors/management.

YK should really be out the team. Misbah can bat at five, it's his usual position where he's done well. In fact he probably prefers batting there.
 
yeah looks like a solid team.

Not convinced by Rameez, I'm not a big fan of giving guys with such a poor overall record in domestic chances. I'd rather he'd have been in domestic a little more, and work to make those averages good first. But yeah he deserves a chance now.

Cheema I'm not sure. He did well, but I think maybe he should focus on tests. I'd rather play Junaid.

I actually haven't seen any footage of Rameez so only included him because I can't think of anyone else for #6. Any other good candidates?
 
Check out Imran Farhat's facebook page. Hilarious.
If he ever reads his facebook page he would tell his father-in-law not to select him.
 
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