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Following the conclusion of their white-ball tour of Australia, the Pakistan national cricket team will head to Zimbabwe for a series of white-ball matches, starting on November 24. The tour will feature three One-Day Internationals (ODIs) and three T20 Internationals (T20Is) between the two nations.

Fresh off a historic 2-1 ODI series victory over Australia—their first in 22 years—the Mohammad Rizwan-led squad will be eager to continue their winning momentum in Zimbabwe.

Will Pakistan's recent victory over Australia give them the edge, or will Zimbabwe's home advantage play a crucial role?

Squads:

Zimbabwe: Craig Ervine (Captain), Faraz Akram, Brian Bennett, Joylord Gumbie, Trevor Gwandu, Clive Madande, Tinotenda Maposa, Tadiwanashe Marumani, Brandon Mavuta, Tashinga Musekiwa, Blessing Muzarabani, Dion Myers, Richard Ngarava, Sikandar Raza, Sean Williams

Pakistan: Aamir Jamal, Abdullah Shafique, Abrar Ahmed, Ahmed Daniyal, Faisal Akram, Haris Rauf, Haseebullah (wk), Kamran Ghulam, Mohammad Hasnain, Mohammad Rizwan (c & wk), Muhammad Irfan Khan, Saim Ayub, Salman Ali Agha, Shahnawaz Dahani, Tayyab Tahir.
 
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Squad Update:

The Pakistan national cricket squad has arrived in Bulawayo for the ODI and T20 series. A series of three ODIs and three T20 matches will be played between Pakistan and Zimbabwe. The Pakistan cricket team will rest tomorrow.

The first ODI match between Pakistan and Zimbabwe will be held on November 24.
 
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Shafiq Saim KG Rizwan Agha Irfan Jamal Rauf Hasnain Abrar Dahani

Tayyab Tahir Haseebullah are not international materials, Saud should have been here but the jokers in PCB.

Jamal KG & Irfan should play all 3 games
 
Ayub
Abdullah
Ghulam
Tayyab
Rizwan
Agha
Irfan
Jamal
Akram
Rauf
Hasnain

This should be ideal squad. We can change Irfan with Haseeb if he doesn't perform.
 
Glad to see Tayyab getting a chance again. He has more batting intelligence than Haseebullah and Usman combined.

Even when he failed previously playing for Pakistan, he looked composed.
 
Why is PCB such a clown? Saud is your best test batsmen and he's shown that he's clearly your best player of spin in the entire country.

The fact that he easily scored a century againat England on a spin galore track and only got out to a pacer proves this? Everyone's mama struggled in that tour except him?

He's the perfect no 4 for you in odi.

I like kamran Ghulam but unless Babar's form in odi dwindles then Kamran shouldn't be here.

Don't get me wrong, Babar for me is on thin ice as he's already lost my support as a test and t20 batsmen, But he seemed comfortable in odi's against stark, Hazlewood and Cummins.

Only zampa troubled him.
 
Saim Ayub
Abdullah
Ghulam
Rizwan
Tayyab
Agha
Irfan
Jamal
Faisal Akram
Rauf
Hasnain

This will be my playing 11 for this game.
 
1. Saim Ayub
2. Mohammad Rizwan (c & wk)
3. Kamran Ghulam
4. Haseebullah Khan
5. Tayyib Tahir
6. Salman Ali Agha
7. Muhammad Irfan Khan
8. Haris Rauf
9. Mohammad Hasnain
10. Shahnawaz Dahani
11. Abrar Ahmed or Faisal Akram
 
mominsaigol said:
Why is PCB such a clown? Saud is your best test batsmen and he's shown that he's clearly your best player of spin in the entire country.

The fact that he easily scored a century againat England on a spin galore track and only got out to a pacer proves this? Everyone's mama struggled in that tour except him?

He's the perfect no 4 for you in odi.

I like kamran Ghulam but unless Babar's form in odi dwindles then Kamran shouldn't be here.

Don't get me wrong, Babar for me is on thin ice as he's already lost my support as a test and t20 batsmen, But he seemed comfortable in odi's against stark, Hazlewood and Cummins.

Only zampa troubled him.
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I think it's a 50/50 call between Ghullam and Saud.
 
Abdullah
Saim
Haseebullah
Kamran Ghullam
Rizwan
Agha
Irfan
Jamal
Rauf
Daniyal
Abrar
 
shamaan said:
I think it's a 50/50 call between Ghullam and Saud.
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Kamran ghulam is a good hard working batsmen and I would have liked it if saud and kamran were 3 and 4 in this series.

No point In rizzu playing for the Millionth time.

However Saud is a superior batsmen. Saud is a natural against spin which is surprisingly rare for such a player to be produced by Pakistan.

He's awfully weak against pace though.

Meanwhile Kamran ghulam is just okay. He's okayish against spin and pace and I like him, he shpuld be in the team but not the expense of saud
 
mominsaigol said:
Why is PCB such a clown? Saud is your best test batsmen and he's shown that he's clearly your best player of spin in the entire country.

The fact that he easily scored a century againat England on a spin galore track and only got out to a pacer proves this? Everyone's mama struggled in that tour except him?

He's the perfect no 4 for you in odi.

I like kamran Ghulam but unless Babar's form in odi dwindles then Kamran shouldn't be here.

Don't get me wrong, Babar for me is on thin ice as he's already lost my support as a test and t20 batsmen, But he seemed comfortable in odi's against stark, Hazlewood and Cummins.

Only zampa troubled him.
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Saud has not had a good time in lois... He is a bit over-rated.
His struggle against pace is quite visible. Same is the case with kamran but he is coming after performing in domestics and with A team so he is more deserving.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Saud has not had a good time in lois... He is a bit over-rated.
His struggle against pace is quite visible. Same is the case with kamran but he is coming after performing in domestics and with A team so he is more deserving.
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It doesn't matter. Rizwan and Babar have been circus clowns in odi and t20 throughout 2024, when it comes to t20, that timeline is extended to 2022.

Saud is your best batsmen of spin in the entire country. Not a single batter is on par with him when it comes to spin.

This is Pakistan’s and pcb's universal problem. They can't identify and improve actual talent.

Fakhar zaman onsong is your best batter. What's the logical solution? Easy have the management work with him, and give him confidence so that he becomes more consistent.

What's PCB's and Misbah's solution? Make him even more inconsistent then he already is and replace him for a legsode hack?

Similarly saud is your best batsmen of spin? What's the logical solution? Work with batting coaches to improve his play against pace and turn him into a monster batter.

What's pcb's solution? Hire a 24 avg fc batter as batting coach and drop saud shakeel alltogether.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Joke board.
 
mominsaigol said:
It doesn't matter. Rizwan and Babar have been circus clowns in odi and t20 throughout 2024, when it comes to t20, that timeline is extended to 2022.

Saud is your best batsmen of spin in the entire country. Not a single batter is on par with him when it comes to spin.

This is Pakistan’s and pcb's universal problem. They can't identify and improve actual talent.

Fakhar zaman onsong is your best batter. What's the logical solution? Easy have the management work with him, and give him confidence so that he becomes more consistent.

What's PCB's and Misbah's solution? Make him even more inconsistent then he already is and replace him for a legsode hack?

Similarly saud is your best batsmen of spin? What's the logical solution? Work with batting coaches to improve his play against pace and turn him into a monster batter.

What's pcb's solution? Hire a 24 avg fc batter as batting coach and drop saud shakeel alltogether.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Joke board.
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These improvement stuff you mentioned is something we cannot expect from pcb.
How many batters have we seen working on their technique???
 
BouncerGuy said:
These improvement stuff you mentioned is something we cannot expect from pcb.
How many batters have we seen working on their technique???
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These improvement stuff you mentioned is something we cannot expect from pcb.

Then enjoy never winning a single dime(icc event) in your entire lifespan.

Forget about wtc, Forget about wc, Forget about CT, Forget about T20 wc.

Cricketers have to take some accountability but then what are coaches for? Might as well save the money and ban them.

 
mominsaigol said:
These improvement stuff you mentioned is something we cannot expect from pcb.

Then enjoy never winning a single dime(icc event) in your entire lifespan.

Forget about wtc, Forget about wc, Forget about CT, Forget about T20 wc.

Cricketers have to take some accountability but then what are coaches for? Might as well save the money and ban them.
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I have not seen a player who was struggling against Pace or spin and coaches worked on that players and improved him. Saud and Kamran are gonna smash spinners any day but when it comes to pace, we will see them struggling.
 
BouncerGuy said:
I have not seen a player who was struggling against Pace or spin and coaches worked on that players and improved him. Saud and Kamran are gonna smash spinners any day but when it comes to pace, we will see them struggling.
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I have not seen a player who was struggling against Pace or spin and coaches worked on that players and improved him

Are you talking about pcb or internationally.

if you're only talking about pcb, then read my previous comment.

If you're talking about internationally then that's totally false.

Lots of players became better under coaches. Dhoni, Micheal Clarke, daniel Vettori and many others. Even kohli to some extent underwent some training after his horrible 2012 pakistan tour.

Their have been very very few players in history who didn't really need to much coaching experience such as Sachin, Viv and a few others.

Otherwise at the very least every player has gone through some refinement under credible coaches.
 
mominsaigol said:
I have not seen a player who was struggling against Pace or spin and coaches worked on that players and improved him

Are you talking about pcb or internationally.

if you're only talking about pcb, then read my previous comment.

If you're talking about internationally then that's totally false.

Lots of players became better under coaches. Dhoni, Micheal Clarke, daniel Vettori and many others. Even kohli to some extent underwent some training after his horrible 2012 pakistan tour.

Their have been very very few players in history who didn't really need to much coaching experience such as Sachin, Viv and a few others.

Otherwise at the very least every player has gone through some refinement under credible coaches.
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Obviously talking about PCB.

Anyways, Pakistan should not let go of Kamran Ghulam that soon. he has performed and earned his spot in the team.

In the absence of Babar, KG should bat at 3 with Tayyab at 4 , but riz is gonna bat at 4 so.
 
The T20 series would have been the perfect platform to begin the reign of the Fakhar/Saim opening combo, and then to let it run all the way to the 2026 World Cup.

They will be deployed into the South Africa series as a debut but it won’t be the ideal kind of hit out they could have had by facing Zimbabwe first.
 
Look at how India developed the Samson+Abhishek combination:

They deployed them at home first, let them have a complete run against Bangladesh on their turf…slowly built their confidence and then this combination absolutely unleashed against South Africa away from home. Now it looks ready for the bigger challenge against Australia, England etc.

Pakistan are missing the trick here against Zimbabwe. Identify your openers now! Let them acclimatise against Zimbabwe, tell them to aim for 70+ in 6 overs of the powerplay. They fail at it, so be it! But keep going, keep trying!

In South Africa, the chemistry will hopefully get there between the two openers who are out for the kill! They will continue to grow as a pair going forward
 
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Look at how India developed the Samson+Abhishek combination:

They deployed them at home first, let them have a complete run against Bangladesh on their turf…slowly built their confidence and then this combination absolutely unleashed against South Africa away from home. Now it looks ready for the bigger challenge against Australia, England etc.

Pakistan are missing the trick here against Zimbabwe. Identify your openers now! Let them acclimatise against Zimbabwe, tell them to aim for 70+ in 6 overs of the powerplay. They fail at it, so be it! But keep going, keep trying!

In South Africa, the chemistry will hopefully get there between the two openers who are out for the kill! They will continue to grow as a pair going forward
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In south africa the only chemistry achieved will be rizwan opening at one end with someone else opening at another and any combination with rizwan cannot work because he is a selfish batsmen.

Rana bro you mean well magar we both know none of what you'll say will be achieved as long as we this chawal captaining the side.

Selfish batters cannot achieve this abi + Samson combo
 
mominsaigol said:
In south africa the only chemistry achieved will be rizwan opening at one end with someone else opening at another and any combination with rizwan cannot work because he is a selfish batsmen.

Rana bro you mean well magar we both know none of what you'll say will be achieved as long as we this chawal captaining the side.

Selfish batters cannot achieve this abi + Samson combo
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The most I can do bro is continue to try and spread the truth for this lot that will happily put a blind eye over it.

If Pakistan fails when it matters because it didn’t prepare the way it should have, guys like us will not be the ones who are blamed because we did try our best to show Pakistan cricket the right path. I’ve been trying for 5 years in the case of Rizwan fraud, I won’t give up in this pursuit.
 
Rana said:
The most I can do bro is continue to try and spread the truth for this lot that will happily put a blind eye over it.

If Pakistan fails when it matters because it didn’t prepare the way it should have, guys like us will not be the ones who are blamed because we did try our best to show Pakistan cricket the right path. I’ve been trying for 5 years in the case of Rizwan fraud, I won’t give up in this pursuit.
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If everyone shared your viewpoint, Then rizzu wouldn't be captain. No matter how many strings coaches or parchi's try to pull, Public PR pressure always wins.

India and England are the most vocal at it. Pakistani fans are the most delusional
 
Kianig89 said:
Shafiq Saim KG Rizwan Agha Irfan Jamal Rauf Hasnain Abrar Dahani

Tayyab Tahir Haseebullah are not international materials, Saud should have been here but the jokers in PCB.

Jamal KG & Irfan should play all 3 games
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Are you a kala jadu wala baba? Seems like you think you know the future and know exactly what players will do well or not with out them even having a few series on their name
 
emranabbas said:
Are you a kala jadu wala baba? Seems like you think you know the future and know exactly what players will do well or not with out them even having a few series on their name
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Tbf, Hasebullah sucks and doesn't have a future.

Tayyab tahir is infinitely superior to Rizwan however. It's a shame he didn't make his debut in odi earlier. He's a good prospect and 200x superior to chacha as a player.

Another prospect not identified by PCB
 
Pakistan's most ODI wins against an opponent away from home!

Pakistan has a very formidable ODI record against Zimbabwe, especially away from home.

Surprisingly, two of the Big 3 nations, India and Australia are level at second place.

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Although I dislike Babar in t20 and test, I do question PCB excluding him from odi.

Babar Azam is overrated in odi however he is a solid accumulator and has bashed weak attacks and has food performances here and their. He's rubbish in tests and t20 however in odi he isn't bad. He's good it's just people compare him to atg's 24/7.

Regardless bobby is in low form in odi's so wouldn't it make sense to have him play against Zimbabwe and regain form?

A top order of Fakhar, Saim, Babar and Saud is not a bad top 4.

Honestly this chawal rizwan ruins everything. Atleast Misbah batted at 5 despite being an awful odi batter.
 
Seriously what's wrong with

1) Fakhar
2) Saim
3) Babar (I still believe he's a better odi batsmen then Kamran)
4) Saud Shakeel
5) Usman Khan (Back him, He's your top list A and t20 performer, Don't jump the gun)
6) Salman Ali Agha
7) Sajid Khan
8) Nouman Ali (Genuinely try em for odi, not even kidding, Take the plunge)
9-11) Pacers

I seriously want to try this team for Zimbabwe and see where people stand
 
mominsaigol said:
Seriously what's wrong with

1) Fakhar
2) Saim
3) Babar (I still believe he's a better odi batsmen then Kamran)
4) Saud Shakeel
5) Usman Khan (Back him, He's your top list A and t20 performer, Don't jump the gun)
6) Salman Ali Agha
7) Sajid Khan
8) Nouman Ali (Genuinely try em for odi, not even kidding, Take the plunge)
9-11) Pacers

I seriously want to try this team for Zimbabwe and see where people stand
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So the tail starts at 5
 
mominsaigol said:
Seriously what's wrong with

1) Fakhar
2) Saim
3) Babar (I still believe he's a better odi batsmen then Kamran)
4) Saud Shakeel
5) Usman Khan (Back him, He's your top list A and t20 performer, Don't jump the gun)
6) Salman Ali Agha
7) Sajid Khan
8) Nouman Ali (Genuinely try em for odi, not even kidding, Take the plunge)
9-11) Pacers

I seriously want to try this team for Zimbabwe and see where people stand
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Excellent team people who are doubting on noman and sajid should see they were the one which won pak england series otherwise whitewash was on i am keen to see sajid bowl in white ball cricket he is a competitive who will give his all.
 
Kianig89 said:
So the tail starts at 5
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What's your team?

1) Saim
2) Abdullah
3) Babar
4) Rizwan
5) Kamran Ghulam
6) Agha
7) Niazi
8) Shaheen
9) Naseem
10) Rauf
11) Husnain?

^^ Sorry to say this but this team will get murdered in cups.
 
Atleast this team is balanced , may be one pacer can make way for a good spinner
mominsaigol said:
What's your team?

1) Saim
2) Abdullah
3) Babar
4) Rizwan
5) Kamran Ghulam
6) Agha
7) Niazi
8) Shaheen
9) Naseem
10) Rauf
11) Husnain?

^^ Sorry to say this but this team will get murdered in cups.
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Kianig89 said:
Atleast this team is balanced , may be one pacer can make way for a good spinner
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Balanced?

Abdullah, Babar, Rizwan, Kamran all coming one after the other is balanced?

You'll either be 40-4 in the first 15 overs, or you won't chase anything > 250 in odi's.
 
mominsaigol said:
Balanced?

Abdullah, Babar, Rizwan, Kamran all coming one after the other is balanced?

You'll either be 40-4 in the first 15 overs, or you won't chase anything > 250 in odi's.
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Changing gears in Odis is not that difficult like in T20s , 1x boundary with 3/4 singles is enough to get 350
 
Kianig89 said:
Changing gears in Odis is not that difficult like in T20s , 1x boundary with 3/4 singles is enough to get 350
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Tell that to Rizwan who graced us with 44 of 71 in the first odi. Abdullah is no different.

As for kamran ghulam and Babar, Babar can take the pacers on but will get bundled out via spin. Kamran will get out as soon as he tries to attack because attacking isn't his game.

He's a test batter who can accumulate hundreds extremely well. In odi he's no different to anyone else.

Saud shakeel is a better accumulator then he is because saud can bash spin while kamran is uncertain against both pace and spin
 
mominsaigol said:
Tell that to Rizwan who graced us with 44 of 71 in the first odi. Abdullah is no different.

As for kamran ghulam and Babar, Babar can take the pacers on but will get bundled out via spin. Kamran will get out as soon as he tries to attack because attacking isn't his game.

He's a test batter who can accumulate hundreds extremely well. In odi he's no different to anyone else.

Saud shakeel is a better accumulator then he is because saud can bash spin while kamran is uncertain against both pace and spin
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Unfortunately these are best players available in the country, so will have to find a way to improve them
 
Kianig89 said:
Unfortunately these are best players available in the country, so will have to find a way to improve them
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What's wrong with what I selected?

These are your best domestic performers. Please explain why rizwan averages 29 with a sr of 80 in the very same domestic leagues?
 
Border- gavaskar trophy is overrated.
Streak- akmal trophy is real. Hope Pakistan give tough competition to Zimbabwe.
Winning against Zimbabwe in Zimbabwe is not an easy thing especially for Pakistan.
Khair
Move on from this bgt we are not interested. Assi streak -akmal di trophy vekha gai.
 
Pakistan cricket team practices at Queen's Sports Club

Players practiced fielding, batting and bowling

Players practiced for 3 hours at Queen's Sports Club

The first ODI between Pakistan and Zimbabwe will be held on November 24

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Abdullah Shafique, while talking to PCB media, said:

"If we compare it to Australia, there are bouncy wickets in Australia as well, so we have to tackle such situations. However, we have played in Zimbabwe before, so we have an idea of the conditions here. In the past, in all the innings we have played, we have dominated Zimbabwe quite a bit. So, we will try to start with the same momentum where we left off."

"Our main players, such as Babar Azam and Shaheen Shah Afridi, are on rest, so it's an opportunity for the youngsters."

"This series is very important ahead of the Champions Trophy. This ODI series is just as significant as the one against Australia because we haven’t played many ODIs in the recent past. It’s an opportunity to prepare ourselves for the big event."

"At the international level, no team is an easy opponent. So, it’s not just for me but also an opportunity for the youngsters to prepare themselves well."
 
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As long as they test the new & fringe players in the squad & give them "legitimate" chances not just drop them after one poor performance.
 
Local.Dada said:
Gavaskar is commentating and Border is enjoying social security benefits/ retirement. Didn’t stop them from having a trophy named after them :)
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Their isnt any point of watching this series. It's a loss loss situation for Pakistan.

If they win, Then half the posters will do a false bhrangra over rizwan's captaincy and the other half will make fun of Pakistan for butchering a minnow team.

However if pakistan loses then half the paoters will troll Pakistan on end and the other half will find excuses and narratives and will probs pin the blame on Aqib Javed.

Their is no winning and theirs no point to this series.

The whole planet shares the same sentiment atm, Not just PP
 
mominsaigol said:
Their isnt any point of watching this series. It's a loss loss situation for Pakistan.

If they win, Then half the posters will do a false bhrangra over rizwan's captaincy and the other half will make fun of Pakistan for butchering a minnow team.

However if pakistan loses then half the paoters will troll Pakistan on end and the other half will find excuses and narratives and will probs pin the blame on Aqib Javed.

Their is no winning and theirs no point to this series.

The whole planet shares the same sentiment atm, Not just PP
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Playing minnows is never a good outcome. If you win you will be called minnow basher and if you lose you will get belt treatment from fans. Best approach is to give some youngsters opportunities.
 
Local.Dada said:
Playing minnows is never a good outcome. If you win you will be called minnow basher and if you lose you will get belt treatment from fans.
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I genuinely don't even get the point of this series.

India usually drops 99% of their main strings against Zimbabwe in series.

Pakistan hasn't dropped anyone. Only Babar from odi and rizwan + Babar from t20? How on earth is that testing the waters like pcb claimed?

Dropping shaheen, Naseem, Babar is not testing the waters lol.

90% of the players in the squad have significant experience even if their rubbish.

Abdullah had already played an entire cup?
Abrar has played multiple test series and was dropped for being rubbish.
Rauf and Husnain aren't newbies
Agha and Jamal aren't new either and have significant experience under their belt now

^^ How is this testing the waters?
 
mominsaigol said:
I genuinely don't even get the point of this series.

India usually drops 99% of their main strings against Zimbabwe in series.

Pakistan hasn't dropped anyone. Only Babar from odi and rizwan + Babar from t20? How on earth is that testing the waters like pcb claimed?

Dropping shaheen, Naseem, Babar is not testing the waters lol.

90% of the players in the squad have significant experience even if their rubbish.

Abdullah had already played an entire cup?
Abrar has played multiple test series and was dropped for being rubbish.
Rauf and Husnain aren't newbies
Agha and Jamal aren't new either and have significant experience under their belt now

^^ How is this testing the waters?
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Point of the series is generate some revenue for Zim cricket and improve stats for Pak cricketers :) Also Zim side will get better playing against good competitive opposition. See no harm. However should have played a one off test too and a full series.
 
mominsaigol said:
I genuinely don't even get the point of this series.

India usually drops 99% of their main strings against Zimbabwe in series.

Pakistan hasn't dropped anyone. Only Babar from odi and rizwan + Babar from t20? How on earth is that testing the waters like pcb claimed?

Dropping shaheen, Naseem, Babar is not testing the waters lol.

90% of the players in the squad have significant experience even if their rubbish.

Abdullah had already played an entire cup?
Abrar has played multiple test series and was dropped for being rubbish.
Rauf and Husnain aren't newbies
Agha and Jamal aren't new either and have significant experience under their belt now

^^ How is this testing the waters?
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Yea. India played a random T20 series in SA. There was a sound financial logic there. That 4 match series fetched them 600 million Rands. What will this series fetch?
 
Local.Dada said:
Point of the series is generate some revenue for Zim cricket and improve stats for Pak cricketers :) Also Zim side will get better playing against good competitive opposition. See no harm. However should have played a one off test too and a full series.
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Thats fine, It generates revenue for Zimbabwe, But what's the point for pakistan players 🤣🤣.

Saim ayub, Kamran ghulam, And a few others are really the only ones who will benefit and shpuld be played.

No point in rizwan, Agha, Rauf and Husnain
 
mominsaigol said:
Their isnt any point of watching this series. It's a loss loss situation for Pakistan.

If they win, Then half the posters will do a false bhrangra over rizwan's captaincy and the other half will make fun of Pakistan for butchering a minnow team.

However if pakistan loses then half the paoters will troll Pakistan on end and the other half will find excuses and narratives and will probs pin the blame on Aqib Javed.

Their is no winning and theirs no point to this series.

The whole planet shares the same sentiment atm, Not just PP
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Agreed, people will disregard it regardless of outcome but that is fine. It is what it is.

For this series, I think it's more about giving your younger players like Saim/Abdullah/Irfan who are very early in their ODI careers more looks and a role to take on more responsibility. A chance for them to really showcase themselves.

Faisal Akram & Abrar will get a chance to see who can become that main spinner on the squad. Chance for Kamran to see if he can establish himself as that backup batsmen for Babar and a permanent fixture on the squad.

I see it more of a developmental series to be honest. Outcome doesn't matter but you want to see growth from younger players. If all you get is experienced players like Rizwan/Salman/Rauf dominating and younger players struggling, it will be disappointing regardless of wins.
 
Nasty Naz said:
Agreed, people will disregard it regardless of outcome but that is fine. It is what it is.

For this series, I think it's more about giving your younger players like Saim/Abdullah/Irfan who are very early in their ODI careers more looks and a role to take on more responsibility. A chance for them to really showcase themselves.

Faisal Akram & Abrar will get a chance to see who can become that main spinner on the squad. Chance for Kamran to see if he can establish himself as that backup batsmen for Babar and a permanent fixture on the squad.

I see it more of a developmental series to be honest. Outcome doesn't matter but you want to see growth from younger players. If all you get is experienced players like Rizwan/Salman/Rauf dominating and younger players struggling, it will be disappointing regardless of wins.
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I hope they use it as a way for the emerging players to get a chance....and not for the senior players to statpad
 
Nasty Naz said:
Agreed, people will disregard it regardless of outcome but that is fine. It is what it is.

For this series, I think it's more about giving your younger players like Saim/Abdullah/Irfan who are very early in their ODI careers more looks and a role to take on more responsibility. A chance for them to really showcase themselves.

Faisal Akram & Abrar will get a chance to see who can become that main spinner on the squad. Chance for Kamran to see if he can establish himself as that backup batsmen for Babar and a permanent fixture on the squad.

I see it more of a developmental series to be honest. Outcome doesn't matter but you want to see growth from younger players. If all you get is experienced players like Rizwan/Salman/Rauf dominating and younger players struggling, it will be disappointing regardless of wins.
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Saim will develop well. He's a good talent

I don't really like Abdullah. I've watched cricket long enough to see a mental midget. I made similar comments about usama mir as well. But sure I don't mind him playing this series.

Irfan khan Niazi has been surprisingly good. He's been rubbish when it comes to running between the wickets. But as a batter He's been pretty good so far. As of now he's proven all his critics wrong. His fighting knock ahaiant Australia in t20 was a commendable effort. Had the other batters backed him he might have chased it down.

As for abrar, Problem is he's slow as molasses. Mystery spin and variation doesn't matter if you bowl at women cricket speeds.

Faisal Akram is a brighter talent imo.
 
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