‘We don’t have any fear’: India’s angry young men and its lynch mob crisis (The Washington Post)

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GOVARDHAN, India —The two young men at the leadership camp were soft-spoken yet assured, from well-off families, wearing aviator sunglasses and flip-flops.

The right-wing activists say they have beaten men they suspected of violating core Hindu beliefs and threatened interfaith couples because they fear Muslims are stealing their women. They say they’re ready to kill for their faith if necessary.

“Even if a life is lost, we don’t care,” said Ram Kumar, 23.

It’s been a summer of rage in India. Dozens have been killed by lynch mobs, and extremist Hindus continue to assault and kill others, many of them Muslims. In the latest viral video, religious pilgrims angered over a minor traffic incident used sticks to demolish a car as police looked on.

Much blame has been cast on India’s governing Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and Prime Minister Narendra Modi, with critics charging that they have encouraged violence by Hindu extremists. But India’s problem of male rage has roots beyond the strident Hindu nationalism embraced by the current government.

India has more than 600 million people under age 25, and they have greater access to technology and education than ever before. Yet millions have little hope of finding decent jobs, and a “bachelor bomb” of more than 37 million surplus men — a legacy of generations of a preference for sons and aborting female fetuses — threatens social stability for decades.

“People are frustrated that they are not being able to get jobs,” a leader from Modi’s party, Vasundhara Raje, told the channel CNN-News18. “There is angst which is spreading across communities and people. . . . It’s a reaction to their circumstances.”

More than 1 million job seekers enter the labor market each month, many with poor English and inadequate job skills, but the country generated only 1.8 million additional jobs last year, according to the Center for Monitoring Indian Economy, a research firm. Modi says the number of new jobs last year was closer to 7 million.

Without solid prospects, many young men are gravitating to India’s growing right-wing nationalist organizations, where they find a sense of purpose.

Over time, a stereotype of a right-wing troll has emerged: keyboard jockeys with too much time on their hands, sitting in their childhood bedrooms furiously tweeting about every perceived slight to Hinduism and Modi.

This summer, Kumar attended a leadership camp sponsored by the Hindu nationalist World Hindu Council, where he learned to protect cows, which Hindus regard as sacred, protect women’s modesty and prevent outsiders from converting Hindus to other faiths. The youths did military drills in the baking heat, slept in the spartan concrete dorm rooms, and ate lentils and rice.

Kumar, a college graduate who runs a tent rental company, and Gaurav Sharma, 22, a law student, grew up in Agra, the city of the Taj Mahal, which they see not as an ethereal white monument but as a reminder of the Mughal invaders who subjugated India’s Hindus.

Kumar said that as a boy he was shy, but after joining the Hindu nationalist movement, “I have a strange sense of confidence now. The group has taught us what is right, what we need to do for society.”

Before long, he said, he was out on the streets chasing down and threatening interfaith couples, conducting the moral policing he feels is necessary because Muslim men allegedly seduce girls “as young as 14.” The Hindu activists call it “love jihad.”

Kumar said he also prowls the streets at night, searching for cattle traders who might be illegally smuggling cows for slaughter. Recently, he said, he and five others stopped a truck transporting cows and beat the Muslim driver, who pleaded for his life. The man was saved only by the arrival of the police, Kumar said.

“I was raging,” Kumar said. “If I had a pistol, I would have killed him.”

Sharma said he, too, has participated in assaults, punching one suspected cattle smuggler in the face. Elders have since shown him how to administer a beating without leaving marks on his victim.

“We have been taught to not hit the head and chest; that can be fatal,” he said. “We beat them in such a way so they get these serious, silent injuries — on the backs, on the legs — so they do not die. Otherwise, there will be a case against us.”

But since the BJP came to power in their state, Uttar Pradesh, led by the Hindu monk Yogi Adityanath, they do not fear being held accountable by the authorities.

“Earlier there was a fear that the government would arrest us, but now with the Yogi government, we don’t have any fear,” Sharma said. “Even if a smuggler is killed during a fight, we don’t have to worry about it.”

He continued, “All these BJP leaders, they’ve said, ‘Do what you want to do about cow protection. Don’t worry, if there is any problem we are there for you.’ ”

Modi has said that state governments should deal sternly with these “cow vigilantes” and that the government is committed to upholding the law, but other BJP politicians have sent a different message, meeting with or congratulating the alleged killers themselves.

The young men harbor a deep sense of victimization and spend a lot of time on Hindu pride-focused WhatsApp groups and alt-history websites that recount the glories of India’s ancient civilization before the Mughal and British invaders imposed, as Modi puts it, 1,200 years of servitude. Critics say social media is deepening the division between Hindus and Muslims in India that existed even before the bloody partition of India in 1947 that created a separate country for Muslims and ultimately an Islamic republic in Pakistan.

“Our parents never told us anything bad about Muslims. But in madrassas, they learn that Hindus are bad,” Sharma said. “We will tell the next generations how bad these people are.”

Sharma and his peers face stiff competition for careers because they attended schools where classes are taught in Hindi and because they know only a few phrases of English, the lingua franca of aspirational India. Many of their classmates are struggling, selling vegetables or doing menial labor. Thirty classmates joined the military.

Kumar plans on having a traditional family, if only to have babies and “contribute to the population.”

“The Hindu population,” Sharma clarified.

Others in their generation may not get the chance. Demographer Christophe Guilmoto estimates, because of the gender imbalance, that 40 million surplus men in India will remain single between 2020 and 2080.

“There is a saying, ‘Behind every successful man is a woman’? But you don’t need women. You can leave them behind and achieve success in life,” Sharma said.

For Sharma, the love of his life married someone else. He said he still regrets that he did not ask his parents for permission to marry her. But nobody in his family had ever had a “love marriage” — always arranged unions.

Now he’s made a “final decision” to remain single and devote himself to the Hindu nationalist cause, to the dismay of his parents. Just like his idol, Modi, who, after an early marriage, has long embraced the bachelor lifestyle as a campaigner for Mother India.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph..._term=.6a0084f604cd&__twitter_impression=true
 
This particular part reminded me of some posters here :

The young men harbor a deep sense of victimization and spend a lot of time on Hindu pride-focused WhatsApp groups and alt-history websites that recount the glories of India’s ancient civilization before the Mughal and British invaders imposed, as Modi puts it, 1,200 years of servitude.
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40 million surplus men due to the obsession with having sons is coming home to roost I fear. Western concepts of family planning probably get laughed at in India, but look at what happens when you take a short term view.

The only answer I can think of is if a lot of these converted to Islam and joined ISIS. Surplus men could probably head for Syria or Afghanistan and their numbers would be whittled down fighting jihad against superior armies with air power.
 
Propaganda. Those into lynching are not true hindus. True hindus never harm anyone and are one of the most peaceful people.

Although always being mocked for the passiveness, some hindus are turning aggressive. It should be a warning to not provoke a gentle civilization, because when nice people turn angry, they get very angry.
 
These fools don't realise that that such things will only harm their own country. They rightfully are fearless when the PM backs them openly encouraging terrorist activities. No one is converting them to Islam at all, it''s all in their mind. I hear that many Indian Muslim's convert to Hinduism then why not the other way around as well? If they really are so tough then lets see them threaten Muslim's in a minority Hindu country like Dubai where they also live. It is so very easy to bully the minority community when you are the majority.
 
Propaganda. Those into lynching are not true hindus. True hindus never harm anyone and are one of the most peaceful people.

Although always being mocked for the passiveness, some hindus are turning aggressive. It should be a warning to not provoke a gentle civilization, because when nice people turn angry, they get very angry.

That is one more reason they should consider converting to Islam, then they could channel their aggression into jihad and not feel any internal conflict. Either that or rediscover wonderful ancient practices like yoga and meditation which Indians are abandoning and the rest of the world is taking up. Seems like everybody else appreciates traditional Hindu thought more than Hindus themselves. These guys are an abomination to the culture of the subcontinent.
 
That is one more reason they should consider converting to Islam, then they could channel their aggression into jihad and not feel any internal conflict. Either that or rediscover wonderful ancient practices like yoga and meditation which Indians are abandoning and the rest of the world is taking up. Seems like everybody else appreciates traditional Hindu thought more than Hindus themselves. These guys are an abomination to the culture of the subcontinent.

The smart hinduphobes love to glorify the idea of the docile hindu, while the dumb hinduphobes mock the hindus for their lack of aggression. the dumb ones have won. you will see more of the angry young hindus now.
 
The smart hinduphobes love to glorify the idea of the docile hindu, while the dumb hinduphobes mock the hindus for their lack of aggression. the dumb ones have won. you will see more of the angry young hindus now.

With these subtle veiled threats don't you fear for the safety of cows in Islamic countries ?

Some unimaginative Islamist's could retaliate this way.
 
With these subtle veiled threats don't you fear for the safety of cows in Islamic countries ?

Some unimaginative Islamist's could retaliate this way.

Eat as many cows as you want. May Lord Almighty Bhagwan ji bring everyone to the Right Path.
 
These young men have a lot of potential and it's such a pity that cunning old leaders of BJP are exploiting them to spread hate towards Muslims (and if there were 0 Muslims in India, then they would have chosen some other boogeyman to blame or target).

Modi's '1200 years of servitude' rhetoric. It is laughable on so many levels. Even during Mughal/British raj there were 100s of Rajas and mini-Sarkars ruling in Sub-continent. Many of these were Hindus/Muslims etc. It was always about the politics of the elite. And always shall be like that.

BJP is doing exactly what elite ruling classes of India have been doing for millennias. Selecting a lower class and making them culprits of everything. Even 10.000 years ago, in India, it was the same hate toward the untouchables which it is towards Muslims these days. Difference is: untouchables didn't have internet or other means to document the atrocities.

Modi let mob slaughter Muslims in Gujarat massacre. They were Indians as well, of different religion but they were Indians. I want Modi supporters to swallow that.

It's same old crap, over and over again:

Step 1: Divert majority's anger towards minority
Step 2: Rule them all.

PS: May Allah give highest of place to Muhammad Ali Jinnah in Jannat for creating Pakistan.
 
Jinnah could see what was gonna happen for which Pakistanis will never be able to thank him enough, he was a genius make no mistake about that. It comes down to one thing that the Quaid recognised that no matter how much Indians cry "secularism" religion is the defining identity of Indian people then and Pakistanis now as well for that matter. Most people of the subcontinent see themselves as Muslim's, Hindu's, Sikh's, Buddhist's and even Christian's before they do Pakistanis or Indian's.
 
Surprisingly no Indian is defending this by questioning credibility of the wsp, no Indian has try to deny, and no Indian has commented.

Is it because they support them or ashamed of it? I can’t figure it out.
 
Surprisingly no Indian is defending this by questioning credibility of the wsp, no Indian has try to deny, and no Indian has commented.

Is it because they support them or ashamed of it? I can’t figure it out.

no need to waste time on such shoddy journalism. We know that our renaissance will not go down well with those who have wanted to see us perennially meek and docile. They fear our spine and steel now, hence all this desperation to malign us to go back to our old ways. For years they mocked us for being peaceful, for being rahul dravids and venkatesh prasads. now every patriotic indian is like virat kohli and hardik pandya. we don't cow down anymore, but give it back with interest. The sleeping gentle giant has just started to awaken. this ancient civilization, this mother of all civilizations, is soon going to be the big daddy of all. Haters can hate and whiners can whine.
 
These young men have a lot of potential and it's such a pity that cunning old leaders of BJP are exploiting them to spread hate towards Muslims (and if there were 0 Muslims in India, then they would have chosen some other boogeyman to blame or target).

Modi's '1200 years of servitude' rhetoric. It is laughable on so many levels. Even during Mughal/British raj there were 100s of Rajas and mini-Sarkars ruling in Sub-continent. Many of these were Hindus/Muslims etc. It was always about the politics of the elite. And always shall be like that.

BJP is doing exactly what elite ruling classes of India have been doing for millennias. Selecting a lower class and making them culprits of everything. Even 10.000 years ago, in India, it was the same hate toward the untouchables which it is towards Muslims these days. Difference is: untouchables didn't have internet or other means to document the atrocities.

Modi let mob slaughter Muslims in Gujarat massacre. They were Indians as well, of different religion but they were Indians. I want Modi supporters to swallow that.

It's same old crap, over and over again:

Step 1: Divert majority's anger towards minority
Step 2: Rule them all.

PS: May Allah give highest of place to Muhammad Ali Jinnah in Jannat for creating Pakistan.

what are you talking about 10,000 years ago homo sapiens invent agriculture
 
Social media’s dangers are starkest outside the West

Yesterday Facebook banned a handful of senior figures from the Burmese government from its platform, including Senior General Min Aung Hlaing, commander-in-chief of the armed forces, who also run the military’s television network. This, after a UN report had declared that senior military figures in the country should be investigated for genocide and crimes against humanity in connection with the persecution of the Rohingya minority, at least 700,000 of whom have fled the country.

This month Reuters did a deep dive into the role of Facebook in that conflict. You think it’s Russian hacking of the US election that ought to have Mark Zuckerberg staring at the ceiling at 3am? Think again. Reuters found Burmese-language hate speech on the platform to be thriving. “Cut off those necks of the son of the dog and kick them in the water,” said one. “Pour fuel and set fire so they can meet Allah faster,” said another.


If you think our online revolution has happened quickly, Burma’s leaves it for dust. Six years ago barely 1 per cent of the population was even online. Yet today Facebook alone has about 18 million users there, a similar figure to in Spain.

It is not controversial to suggest that this has had social consequences. In 2014 riots broke out in Mandalay after fake rumours spread online about a Muslim man raping a Buddhist woman. Back then Facebook had only one Burmese-speaking employee, a contractor based in Dublin. A month ago, remarkably, it still only had about 60. Nobody can know for sure how different the past decade in Burma would have been had Facebook better policed itself, or even stayed away. Yet according to the chairman of a UN fact-finding mission in March, it has “substantively contributed to the level of acrimony and dissension and conflict”. One of his colleagues said the network had “turned into a beast”.

Back in 2014, after those riots, the Burmese government briefly banned Facebook altogether. Western voices derided this as censorship, which indeed it was, for Burma is no liberal democracy. Quite apart from countries that maintain constant bans on social media (China, Iran) there is a long, ignoble list of countries that flirt with temporary ones at times of unrest. Sri Lanka, Vietnam, Tanzania, Uganda, on and on it goes.

Again, they have been called illiberal, and again with good reason, because censorship is the first step towards autocracy. Last week, though, numerous papers worldwide reported a study from the University of Warwick which found that hate speech online was linked to a rise in attacks, even in liberal, stable Germany. So when you’re governing a society altogether more wobbly, and when the tech companies don’t give a toss, what are you actually supposed to do?

I am not comfortable with where any of this takes me. All I can say is that my instinctive liberalism may have taken a battering in recent years, but I remain firmly opposed to almost any governments censoring almost any speech in almost any circumstances. Particularly when those governments are made up of men as evidently unlovely as the Burmese Senior General Min Aung Hlaing. Nor, though, am I wild about aloof US tech companies policing speech instead. Not even in parts of the world they do understand, let alone in places they clearly don’t.

Denounce the first option, though, and you have to go for the second. Otherwise, what’s left? In the West, I’ll accept, there can be a shrillness to our fretting about the dark places to which the human revolution that is the internet could theoretically lead us. Already, though, there are other parts of the world where they are way beyond the theoretical. Where the mobs already surge, and the fires already burn and the blood already runs. What happens to them in 50 years? What happens to them in ten?


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...ngers-are-starkest-outside-the-west-f0xrhq276

That article is about Burma, but you can see the parallels with the thought process with India's angry young men. The author is right, while we Brits will mostly limit our negative use of social media to a bit of trolling, in the east it can lead to lynchings and in extreme cases genocide.

Now I am starting to think when [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] comes into these threads to trumpet his customary "Thank you Mr Jinnah!" I am going to have to acknowledge he may be right after all.
 
No amount of derision, taunt or sarcasm is going to affect the Hindu Renaissance. We have seen how they mocked us when we followed Gandhi.
 
I remember coming across the world hindu council on a university campus where they were masquerading as a harmless Hindu organisation and wanted hindu students to join for fun and frolicks..suffice it to say i found the whole thing quite amusing and proceeded to complain to the student union...they were not seen again on campus..
 
Muslim Sounding Name Took Life of My Son Sahil, Mourns Sangeeta, Mother of Mob-lynching Victim

WHAT’S in the name? In India If you have a name that sounds Muslim, it could invite a murderous mob to kill you.

Sahil Singh was unfortunate that he had a religion neutral name. “They brutally beat Sahil because they mistook him as Mohammadan (another term for Muslims in India) after hearing his friends shouted his name,” Sangeeta, his mother recounts.

Sunil Singh and his wife Sangeeta live in Maujpur, a locality in the northern outskirts of Delhi, with their two kids. Their home — a two room apartment is located in Krishna Gali, a narrow lane that emerges out at the gates of Maujpur metro station.

On August 30, Sahil Singh and his friends entered a ‘forbidden lane’. It did not go down well with some inhabitants, mostly Pandits — a top sect of priestly Brahmin class in Hindu system of socio religious stratification — and asked them why they were walking through the lane. Sahil belonged to Thakur family. The argument provoked an altercation between two sides culminating in the murder of Sahil Singh.

India has seen an increase in street violence against Muslims following the ascension of right wing government to power led by Hindu nationalist party, the BJP. The murder of Sahil Singh is just another indication that the vigilante violence is becoming increasingly normalised.

Sahil had come home gasping and thirsty. Within a few moments he passed away in his mother’s lap. But before taking his last breaths, Sahil had a short parting conversation with his mother in which he recounted his ordeal.

“I am innocent, I was just trying to reconcile the two groups but they beat me after hearing my friends call me my name. They thought I am a Mohammadan and thrashed me and hit me in the back with a log of wood,” Sangeeta struggles to recall the brief conversation with his dying son.

According to Sangeeta, Sahil had pleaded before the mob and reassured that they wouldn’t be using the lane again but they beat him fatally. Sahil had named certain Chandarban as the main culprit during his conversation with mother.

Sangeeta had taken him to the hospital which was 2 miles away from their home. There the doctors declared him brought dead. “At hospital I realised that Sahil Babu had passed away in my lap,” Sangeeta’s voice cracks as she recollects those painful parting moments.

Who was Sahil?

A framed portrait of dashing Sahil is mounted on the wall of lobby in the apartment. “We put on the 13th day of this death” – tradition in the community in honour of the deceased. Sahil looks debonair in the photos. “He would frequently share them on his Facebook,” Sahil’s sister, a primary school student, says with a flashing smile.

He was a nice boy and everyone in the neighbourhood had respected him for his good manners, his father Sunil says.

The family is associated with construction material business. Few years ago Sunil underwent a surgery in his knee and since then his capacity to work has waned forcing Sahil to work at the young age. The family was now fending on Sahil. “He was our earning hand,” Sangeeta says.

They are struggling to make their ends meet. “We have no one to bank upon.” She says, adding that they can’t afford to hire a lawyer to fight their case.

The murder of the son has triggered a sense of fear and paranoia in the family. “I don’t send my other two kids to school,” she says. “I fear if something untoward happens to them what we will do then.” Sangeeta says she hasn’t had a proper sleep since that fateful day. “I cry all night thinking about Sahil.”

Around Twenty five years ago Sunil and Sangeeta married in Gazipur, Uttar Pradesh. Thereafter, the couple came to Delhi in search of work. They arrived in Jaffarabad area of north Delhi and a Muslim family gave them a place to reside. “They also gave me work,” Sunil says.

A year later they had a son. He was given the name of Sahil by the sister of Javed Ahmad, the family head. Sahil means the sea shore and cuts across the religious nomenclature. “I don’t know what sin we had committed naming our Son Sahil,” Sangeeta bemoaned.

The murder has shattered the dreams of the family. Just recently the family had seen a girl for Sahil and they were reading for his marriage next year. “The other side had said yes.” They were just waiting for her to attain the marriageable age. “She will turn 18 next month.”

Apprehensions of Police inaction

The police immediately arrested two persons in the case including 45 years old Chandarban and his son and started investigations.

According to Sunil, Chandarban has confessed that he had mistakenly beaten Sahil thinking he was a Muslim.

However, family alleges, there were six more persons involved in the fatal violence inflicted on Sahil. “Police is behaving callously. They should arrest the six others who were also involved in thrashing my son.” Sangeeta while recalling the eye witness accounts from the crime scene asked, how could just two people beat a young athletic boy?

“They have killed a young adult, 23 year old boy and police is treating the case as if a fly has been killed,” says the disgruntled Sunil. “Whenever I visit the police station, the officers there feel annoyed and shoo me away.”

The family is apprehensive that police will be bribed and will not investigate the case on merit. “Police knows they will gain nothing from us,” Sangeeta bemoaned. “They did not even come here to record my statement.”

The couple alleges, that the cameras recorded the scenes of the crime but police is not using that as the evidence in the case. “It seems that they have destroyed the CCTV footage.”

Demand for Justice

The family demands that the culprits should be given strict punishment to make the case a lesson for others. “The people who murdered our son should be hanged or put in jail for life,” Sangeeta asked that no politics should be played over the murder of his son. “I don’t want any innocent person to be punished for my son’s murder.”

Sunil is upset over the spate of mob violence that has gripped India. This communal violence should stop. “No one deserves to be lynched, be it a Muslim or a Hindu,” Sunil says. “Government should take steps to stop the spread of violence being committed in the name of religion.

https://caravandaily.com/muslim-sou...ourns-sangeeta-mother-of-mob-lynching-victim/
 
Muslim Sounding Name Took Life of My Son Sahil, Mourns Sangeeta, Mother of Mob-lynching Victim

WHAT’S in the name? In India If you have a name that sounds Muslim, it could invite a murderous mob to kill you.

Sahil Singh was unfortunate that he had a religion neutral name. “They brutally beat Sahil because they mistook him as Mohammadan (another term for Muslims in India) after hearing his friends shouted his name,” Sangeeta, his mother recounts.

Sunil Singh and his wife Sangeeta live in Maujpur, a locality in the northern outskirts of Delhi, with their two kids. Their home — a two room apartment is located in Krishna Gali, a narrow lane that emerges out at the gates of Maujpur metro station.

On August 30, Sahil Singh and his friends entered a ‘forbidden lane’. It did not go down well with some inhabitants, mostly Pandits — a top sect of priestly Brahmin class in Hindu system of socio religious stratification — and asked them why they were walking through the lane. Sahil belonged to Thakur family. The argument provoked an altercation between two sides culminating in the murder of Sahil Singh.

India has seen an increase in street violence against Muslims following the ascension of right wing government to power led by Hindu nationalist party, the BJP. The murder of Sahil Singh is just another indication that the vigilante violence is becoming increasingly normalised.

Sahil had come home gasping and thirsty. Within a few moments he passed away in his mother’s lap. But before taking his last breaths, Sahil had a short parting conversation with his mother in which he recounted his ordeal.

“I am innocent, I was just trying to reconcile the two groups but they beat me after hearing my friends call me my name. They thought I am a Mohammadan and thrashed me and hit me in the back with a log of wood,” Sangeeta struggles to recall the brief conversation with his dying son.

According to Sangeeta, Sahil had pleaded before the mob and reassured that they wouldn’t be using the lane again but they beat him fatally. Sahil had named certain Chandarban as the main culprit during his conversation with mother.

Sangeeta had taken him to the hospital which was 2 miles away from their home. There the doctors declared him brought dead. “At hospital I realised that Sahil Babu had passed away in my lap,” Sangeeta’s voice cracks as she recollects those painful parting moments.

Who was Sahil?

A framed portrait of dashing Sahil is mounted on the wall of lobby in the apartment. “We put on the 13th day of this death” – tradition in the community in honour of the deceased. Sahil looks debonair in the photos. “He would frequently share them on his Facebook,” Sahil’s sister, a primary school student, says with a flashing smile.

He was a nice boy and everyone in the neighbourhood had respected him for his good manners, his father Sunil says.

The family is associated with construction material business. Few years ago Sunil underwent a surgery in his knee and since then his capacity to work has waned forcing Sahil to work at the young age. The family was now fending on Sahil. “He was our earning hand,” Sangeeta says.

They are struggling to make their ends meet. “We have no one to bank upon.” She says, adding that they can’t afford to hire a lawyer to fight their case.

The murder of the son has triggered a sense of fear and paranoia in the family. “I don’t send my other two kids to school,” she says. “I fear if something untoward happens to them what we will do then.” Sangeeta says she hasn’t had a proper sleep since that fateful day. “I cry all night thinking about Sahil.”

Around Twenty five years ago Sunil and Sangeeta married in Gazipur, Uttar Pradesh. Thereafter, the couple came to Delhi in search of work. They arrived in Jaffarabad area of north Delhi and a Muslim family gave them a place to reside. “They also gave me work,” Sunil says.

A year later they had a son. He was given the name of Sahil by the sister of Javed Ahmad, the family head. Sahil means the sea shore and cuts across the religious nomenclature. “I don’t know what sin we had committed naming our Son Sahil,” Sangeeta bemoaned.

The murder has shattered the dreams of the family. Just recently the family had seen a girl for Sahil and they were reading for his marriage next year. “The other side had said yes.” They were just waiting for her to attain the marriageable age. “She will turn 18 next month.”

Apprehensions of Police inaction

The police immediately arrested two persons in the case including 45 years old Chandarban and his son and started investigations.

According to Sunil, Chandarban has confessed that he had mistakenly beaten Sahil thinking he was a Muslim.

However, family alleges, there were six more persons involved in the fatal violence inflicted on Sahil. “Police is behaving callously. They should arrest the six others who were also involved in thrashing my son.” Sangeeta while recalling the eye witness accounts from the crime scene asked, how could just two people beat a young athletic boy?

“They have killed a young adult, 23 year old boy and police is treating the case as if a fly has been killed,” says the disgruntled Sunil. “Whenever I visit the police station, the officers there feel annoyed and shoo me away.”

The family is apprehensive that police will be bribed and will not investigate the case on merit. “Police knows they will gain nothing from us,” Sangeeta bemoaned. “They did not even come here to record my statement.”

The couple alleges, that the cameras recorded the scenes of the crime but police is not using that as the evidence in the case. “It seems that they have destroyed the CCTV footage.”

Demand for Justice

The family demands that the culprits should be given strict punishment to make the case a lesson for others. “The people who murdered our son should be hanged or put in jail for life,” Sangeeta asked that no politics should be played over the murder of his son. “I don’t want any innocent person to be punished for my son’s murder.”

Sunil is upset over the spate of mob violence that has gripped India. This communal violence should stop. “No one deserves to be lynched, be it a Muslim or a Hindu,” Sunil says. “Government should take steps to stop the spread of violence being committed in the name of religion.

https://caravandaily.com/muslim-sou...ourns-sangeeta-mother-of-mob-lynching-victim/

This propaganda need to be stopped against RSS.

At least they haven't done terrorism across the border.

Something RSS cult members would say.
 
These RSS terrorists killed Ghandhi back in 1948 because he "favored Muslims" :facepalm:

And now they killed a kid just because his name sounded like a Muslim's :facepalm: Things have only gotten worse.

Nathuram Vinayak Godse (19 May 1910 – 15 November 1949) was the assassin of Mahatma Gandhi, who shot Gandhi in the chest three times at point blank range in New Delhi on 30 January 1948. Godse, an advocate of Hindu nationalism, from Pune, Maharashtra, who believed Gandhi to have favored the political demands of India's Muslims during the partition of India, plotted the assassination with Narayan Apte and six others. After a trial that lasted over a year, Godse was sentenced to death on 8 November, 1949. Although pleas for commutation were made by Gandhi's two sons, Manilal Gandhi and Ramdas Gandhi, they were turned down by India's prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru, deputy prime minister Vallabhbhai Patel, and the Governor-General C. Rajagopalachari. Godse was hanged in the Ambala Central Jail on 15 November 1949.

And they wonder why Kashmiris have not accepted them in 70+ years!
 
Lols these losers look like IT-nerds but act like they are some karate champions.
 
No fear as the law doesn't do anything about them?
 
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These fools don't realise that that such things will only harm their own country. They rightfully are fearless when the PM backs them openly encouraging terrorist activities. No one is converting them to Islam at all, it''s all in their mind. I hear that many Indian Muslim's convert to Hinduism then why not the other way around as well? If they really are so tough then lets see them threaten Muslim's in a minority Hindu country like Dubai where they also live. It is so very easy to bully the minority community when you are the majority.

They couldn't even in their dreams as they are cowards. Need a billion population behind them to act tough.
 
These young men have a lot of potential and it's such a pity that cunning old leaders of BJP are exploiting them to spread hate towards Muslims (and if there were 0 Muslims in India, then they would have chosen some other boogeyman to blame or target).

Modi's '1200 years of servitude' rhetoric. It is laughable on so many levels. Even during Mughal/British raj there were 100s of Rajas and mini-Sarkars ruling in Sub-continent. Many of these were Hindus/Muslims etc. It was always about the politics of the elite. And always shall be like that.

BJP is doing exactly what elite ruling classes of India have been doing for millennias. Selecting a lower class and making them culprits of everything. Even 10.000 years ago, in India, it was the same hate toward the untouchables which it is towards Muslims these days. Difference is: untouchables didn't have internet or other means to document the atrocities.

Modi let mob slaughter Muslims in Gujarat massacre. They were Indians as well, of different religion but they were Indians. I want Modi supporters to swallow that.

It's same old crap, over and over again:

Step 1: Divert majority's anger towards minority
Step 2: Rule them all.

PS: May Allah give highest of place to Muhammad Ali Jinnah in Jannat for creating Pakistan.

Who told you they have a lot of potential? They seem to be goons with no good job or prospects. There will be more of these goons once automation gobbles up their menial jobs. And it's not specific to India. It will happen in every country. The people with relevant education, digital skills will progress. The rest in India, China, Pakistan and every where else will be loonies with statements like these. Don't take these seriously. They will be tamed in every country when it is necessary
 
Unemployment and high poverty leads to aggressiveness. India's issues are not too different from the world and other countries. But, sugarcoating the rural masses by creating a Hindu superiority hysteria is where things could get out of hand way quicker than you expect.

It is worth noting Imran Khan when he mentioned that has 'Modi thought it through' what happens when curfew lifts from J/K?
 
Who told you they have a lot of potential? They seem to be goons with no good job or prospects. There will be more of these goons once automation gobbles up their menial jobs. And it's not specific to India. It will happen in every country. The people with relevant education, digital skills will progress. The rest in India, China, Pakistan and every where else will be loonies with statements like these. Don't take these seriously. They will be tamed in every country when it is necessary

Yeah biddy tell that to Sahil's mother.

People with education and skills work and come home, entertain themselves with families and go to sleep.

Loonies are the ones who your beloved RSS targets.
 
They couldn't even in their dreams as they are cowards. Need a billion population behind them to act tough.

Most Indians in Dubai (as LFC wrote) are Malayalis at around 45-50%, second most are Tamils. These states don't have lynch mob crisis. If you see the areas affected by lynchings, you will see a trend.
 
Most Indians in Dubai (as LFC wrote) are Malayalis at around 45-50%, second most are Tamils. These states don't have lynch mob crisis. If you see the areas affected by lynchings, you will see a trend.

Have met many Tamils in my life, one of my closest friend to this day is Tamil. The hate Indians have for Pakistan in my experience has been from a lot of Indians from regions closer to Pakistan.
 
Yeah biddy tell that to Sahil's mother.

People with education and skills work and come home, entertain themselves with families and go to sleep.

Loonies are the ones who your beloved RSS targets.

Loonies are everyone with that mindset including RSS goons. Sahil or anyone for that matter shouldn't have to suffer because of these loonies. As you are aware, loonies are everywhere and are isolated and people die in every country because of radicals - be it in India, Pakistan or even right wing nuts in US. The unnecessary publicity is not warranted based on a few scenarios
 
Loonies are everyone with that mindset including RSS goons. Sahil or anyone for that matter shouldn't have to suffer because of these loonies. As you are aware, loonies are everywhere and are isolated and people die in every country because of radicals - be it in India, Pakistan or even right wing nuts in US. The unnecessary publicity is not warranted based on a few scenarios

They ain't isolated in India. Ask 8 million people who are living in an open air jail without any kind of communication.

Ground reality is different from what is perceived.
 
Have met many Tamils in my life, one of my closest friend to this day is Tamil. The hate Indians have for Pakistan in my experience has been from a lot of Indians from regions closer to Pakistan.

Good to know, hope you try our cuisine and learn a few Tamil words, enjoy our movies etc :).

Understandably so because they suffer from the scars of partition violence and an inferiority complex because of many centuries under Islamic rule including perennial threat of invasions from the northwest. It shouldn't affect them, but maybe it is easier to program them to hate Pakistan because of that. Organizations like BJP, RSS, VHP have certainly been successful at that, a few decades back it was better I guess though far from ideal because of the wars, terrorism, Kashmir etc. Hope this difficult phase gets over and there is friendship between our countries, wouldn't be unheard of if the history of France-England and Japan-USA relations are anything to go by.
 
They couldn't even in their dreams as they are cowards. Need a billion population behind them to act tough.

...and most of those near billion Hindu's of India live in dirt poor conditions. They have many more things to worry about then picking fights with Muslims.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FIR lodged against celebrities who wrote an open letter to <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@narendramodi</a> on mob lynching.<a href="https://t.co/0gEip2H90M">https://t.co/0gEip2H90M</a></p>— Deccan Herald (@DeccanHerald) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeccanHerald/status/1179973406592126976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Addressing the Vijayadashmi function of the RSS, Mohan Bhagwat said the word ‘lynching’ does not originate from Indian ethos but comes from a separate religious text, and such terms should not be imposed on Indians.<a href="https://t.co/BXyygHsZht">https://t.co/BXyygHsZht</a></p>— The Hindu (@the_hindu) <a href="https://twitter.com/the_hindu/status/1181441629078609920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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India’s so-called image of a democratic and stable state has been shattered once again as two Muslim door-to-door salesmen were lynched and brutally assaulted by a Hindu mob in Karnataka state.

As per details, Rafeeq and Ramizuddin, two cloth merchants, were brutally attacked nearly by a mob of 50 near Kaniyooru village in Puttur Taluk, accusing them of "misbehaving" with women.

The family of victims said that they usually used to go from village to village to sell clothes. "Words were exchanged when one of the women was buying clothes. This led to the attack when they (the victims) were returning," they said.

Following massive outrage from the local Muslim community, police were forced to lodge FIR against the suspects under IPC Sections 144, 341, 504, 323, 324, 427, and 149. However, the names of the suspects were not mentioned.

Earlier this month, Indian police tied Muslim men to a pole and publicly flogged them with canes after they were arrested for allegedly throwing stones at a Hindu religious event, Navratri Garba, in Gujarat state.

Viral videos show policemen in plain clothes beating Muslim men with their hands tied. Police officials in uniform were also present while a huge crowd cheering and chanting slogans, reported NDTV.

Local news outlet VTV Gujarati News also shared the video, saying: "10-11 heretics were brought to the village, where the police taught them a lesson in public" in Undhela village.

The men were asked to "apologise to the public" and the police inspector in charge of the area was present too, the report added.

Express Tribune
 
New Delhi: A Border Security Force personnel was beaten to death in Gujarat's Nadiad after he protested against the circulation of an obscene video of his daughter. A police case has been filed.
Sources said the man had gone to the home of the 15-year-old who allegedly posted the video online, in Chaklasi village on Saturday. There, he was attacked by the family.

The teen is a student of the school the girl attended and the two were in a relationship, sources said.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/sol...sting-against-daughters-obscene-video-3639675
 
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