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‘Am I a disgrace like Morgan said I was?’: Ravi Ashwin, slams KKR captain and Tim Southee

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In a six-tweet thread, Delhi Capitals off-spinner Ravichandran Ashwin revealed what exactly transpired between him and Kolkata Knight Riders captain Eoin Morgan and fast bowler Tim Southee during the DC vs KKR IPL 2021 match in Sharjah on Tuesday.

In the last over the DC innings, Southee appeared to have said something to Ashwin after dismissing him. It had to do with the second-run that Ashwin had taken off the last ball of the 19th over after the ball had hit DC captain Rishabh Pant.

The off-spinner replied while walking back and then soon Morgan too joined in the argument. Morgan and Ashwin were separated by Karthik.

After the match, Karthik said Morgan ‘did not appreciate’ Ashwin running for that extra run as he felt it was against the ‘spirit of the game’.

Ashwin, in a strong-worded reply to the England and KKR captain, said he was not a ‘disgrace’ like the left-hander had termed him to be.

"1. I turned to run the moment I saw the fielder throw and dint know the ball had hit Rishabh.

2. Will I run if I see it!?

Of course I will and I am allowed to.

3. Am I a disgrace like Morgan said I was?

Of course NOT," Ashwin wrote in his first tweet of the thread.

"4. Did I fight? No, I stood up for myself and that’s what my teachers and parents taught me to do and pls teach your children to stand up for themselves.

"In Morgan or Southee’s world of cricket they can choose and stick to what they believe is right or wrong but do not have the right to take a moral high ground and use words that are derogatory," Ashwin wrote while adding that he was standing up for himself.

Ashwin also tore apart those criticizing him after incident by saying that the definition of ‘spirit of cricket’ to him is a bit different.

"What’s even more surprising is the fact that people are discussing this and also trying to talk about who is the good and bad person here!

"To all the ‘Cricket is a gentleman’s game’ fans in the house’:

“There are millions of cricketers with several thought processes that play this great game to make it their careers, teach them that an extra run taken due to a poor throw aimed to get you out can make your career and an extra yard stolen by the non striker can break your career,” Ashwin further wrote.

“Do not confuse them by telling them that you will be termed a good person if you refuse the run or warn the non striker, because all these people who are terming you good or bad have already made a living or they are doing what it takes to be successful elsewhere,” he said.

“Give your heart and soul on the field and play within the rules of the game and shake your hands once the game is over. The above is the only ‘spirit of the game’ I understand,” read his final tweet.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...-captain-and-tim-southee-101632984959141.html
 
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Ravichandran Ashwin's altercation with Kolkata Knight Riders captain Eoin Morgan seems to have caught eyeballs all across the cricket fraternity. After former India opening batter Virender Sehwag poked fun at Morgan, citing the controversial ending of 2019 World Cup final in which England won thanks to superior boundary count, legendary leg-spinner Shane Warne's tweet calling the verbal spat "disgraceful" went viral on social media. Warne, in his tweet, also said that Morgan "had every right to nail him" as the two players exchanged verbal volleys on the field on Tuesday.

Warne was clear in his stand against the Indian off-spinner, who is representing Delhi Capitals in the IPL, as he wrote, "Why does Ashwin have to be that guy again?"

"The world shouldn't be divided on this topic and Ashwin. It's pretty simple - it's disgraceful & should never happen. Why does Ashwin have to be that guy again ? I think @Eoin16 had every right to nail him," Warne wrote quote-tweeting a tweet from Fox Cricket.

On Tuesday, tempers flared after Ashwin tried to sneak in a run, off an overthrow by Rahul Tripathi. The throw had ricocheted off Rishabh Pant at the non-striker's end.

As Ashwin tried to go for another run, Morgan wasn't too pleased by the off-spinner's attitude and the duo ended up having a go at each other. KKR's Dinesh Karthik and Nitish Rana intervened to distance the two in the middle.

Later in the match, Ashwin dismissed Morgan for a second-ball duck and celebrated the wicket animatedly. However, KKR had the last laugh as they won the match by three wickets.

After the match, Karthik revealed what all transpired in the middle that led to the heated exchange between the two international stars.

"I know that Rahul Tripathi threw the ball and it hit Rishabh Pant and then it ricocheted of that and Ashwin started to run. I do not think Morgan appreciates that, he is someone when the ball hits the batter, he expects them not to run because of the spirit of cricket. It is a very grey area, a very interesting topic. I have my own opinion on it but I can just say I am happy to play peacemaker and the thing has come to a good standstill right now," Karthik had said.

https://sports.ndtv.com/ipl-2021/di...n-ravichandran-ashwin-and-eoin-morgan-2558589
 
The Indian Premier League (IPL) 2021 match between Kolkata Knight Riders and Delhi Capitals in Sharjah saw an argument break out in the middle between KKR captain Eoin Morgan and DC's Ravichandran Ashwin. The incident took place in the final over of the DC innings after KKR pacer Tim Southee dismissed Ashwin and said a few words as the off-spinner was walking back.

Ashwin responded to Southee, which prompted Morgan to arrive and say a few words, resulting in a heated exchange between the two players, until KKR wicketkeeper-batsman Dinesh Karthik took Ashwin away from the scene.

Later, Ashwin dismissed Eoin Morgan for a duck and celebrated the dismissal in an emphatic manner.

After KKR's 3-wicket win, Morgan was asked about what went down in the middle by Ian Bishop.

"Both sides played the game hard. On a hot day, things can boil over. Thankfully it didn't. We all played in the right spirit," Morgan said at the post-match presentation ceremony.

"And its a tough contest against Delhi Capitals. Full credit has to go to our coach Brendon McCullum. Its his ethos, his mindset, and the boys have bought into that," he added.

Meanwhile, KKR registered an important 3-wicket win thanks to a cameo from Sunil Narine and a matured innings from Nitish Rana.

At first, the KKR bowlers did a commendable job to restrict DC for only 127 for 9. Narine picked up 2 for 18 in his 4 overs while Lockie Ferguson (1/10 in 2 overs) and Venkatesh Iyer (4/29) did a fine job.

In reply, Shubman Gill laid the foundation with a solid 30 but the KKR chase stuttered a bit in the middle. It required an important partnership between Rana and Narine to see the Knights home.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...d-exchange-with-r-ashwin-101632882336545.html
 
Really dont know why its such a big deal

Eoin Morgan won a World Cup via a boundary through the same means
 
Correct me if im wrong, but ashwin says its cool to run if the throw deflects off a batsman, right?

If that’s the case, Ashwin - dude, Eoin has every right to call you a disgrace, dont try to milk support of your idiot fan following for free. And your not some Brett lee or something, just an expendable off spinner, you are. So cool down. Dont insult foreign players, we have a culture of welcoming guests in our own home, not fighting with them.
 
Ashwin is right on the money here, morgan and southee couldve held up the "spirit of the game" by telling him in an appropriate manner that they did not like his extra run..

Funnily enough the "spirit they are fighting for is post when they called him a disgrace lmao.. i love when gores put themself on a moral high ground when it comes to this sort if ish.
 
Totally with Ashwin on this. Morgan has no right to call anyone a disgrace especially when no one is flouting the rules of the games.

This "ethics" "etiquettes" "sportsmanship" are all abstract thoughts that these English, Australian, NZ people devise in their heads and expect everyone else to tow to their thoughts.

Good on Ashwin to again take them head-on like he did with the Mankad situation. Ashwin is a superstar.
 
Ash has a right to set the records straight. I like his definition of the spirt of cricket.
 
Correct me if im wrong, but ashwin says its cool to run if the throw deflects off a batsman, right?

If that’s the case, Ashwin - dude, Eoin has every right to call you a disgrace, dont try to milk support of your idiot fan following for free. And your not some Brett lee or something, just an expendable off spinner, you are. So cool down. Dont insult foreign players, we have a culture of welcoming guests in our own home, not fighting with them.

Would you say that Sachin Tendulkar should have been the nastiest one then? considering he was less expendable than other batsmen of his time?
 
What if the match situation was 1 needed from the last ball..all this show off of gentlemangiri only come out when there is nothing much to lose...Spirit of Cricket is biggest farce
 
Would you say that Sachin Tendulkar should have been the nastiest one then? considering he was less expendable than other batsmen of his time?

No i might have overreacted on the expendable thing maybe, i didnt mean that.
 
england won a world cup through a deflection. Funny when the law comes to bite you they whine.
 
Morgan
Sam Curran
Kevin Pietersen

And a few others are the biggest disgrace to represent England
 
Fully stand by Ashwin on this. He's completely right. If you don't like the rules go lecture the MCC or the ICC, instead of holding up the "spirit of the game" time and time again.

Morgan is as sanctimonious as they come. Total cry-baby who would sooner blame the pitch than take responsibility for failure. He has no right to be lecturing others on sportsmanship.
 
england won a world cup through a deflection. Funny when the law comes to bite you they whine.

Theres a difference The batters didnt run on deflection The ball went straight to the boundary
 
Theres a difference The batters didnt run on deflection The ball went straight to the boundary

Yeah different but his point was England didn't think about spirit of the game then.
Was legal? yes
so is Ashwin legal? yes
 
Look who's talking about "spirit of the game" :)) english cricketers are wrost in the world when come to ethics and manners.
 
Theres a difference The batters didnt run on deflection The ball went straight to the boundary

And england could had asked the unpire to not to count those runs..
 
Theres a difference The batters didnt run on deflection The ball went straight to the boundary

They could still have declined to add on those runs to the total.
That would have been within the 'spirit of the game' and would have set a precedent.
 
Well...I guess there's some fire now in the most lacklustre season of IPL I have ever seen. I barely watch but tuning into sky for empty stadiums and bored cricketers is just plain useless.
 
Ashwin seems to be building a cv of purposefully creating controveries and be controversial

First the mankading now this Yes it might be legal bit its not the done thing
 
Yeah different but his point was England didn't think about spirit of the game then.
Was legal? yes
so is Ashwin legal? yes

Imagine if Ashwin had a little power, it may go to his head...
 
I think that Morgan could have been more polite, he isn't some big shot who's hitting 5 hundred in an IPL season, tailenders are making more runs than him.

Secondly, Ashwin shouldn't try to find himself at the center of controversies repeatedly.
 
Ashiwn and spirit of cricket in discussion again. Mankading (done), run on deflection from your partner (done), lets see what are some other spirit of cricket things he can put into discussion.
 
Ashwin seems to be building a cv of purposefully creating controveries and be controversial

First the mankading now this Yes it might be legal bit its not the done thing

Who decides whats the done thing - a bunch of old hats sitting in their ivory tower? Also does the ‘done thing’ change from team to team - after all, weren’t Morgan & the English happy to accept a World cup won dubiously on similar grounds?

I have never liked Ashwin, but he is right in calling out the hypocritical & arbitrary cricketing moral high grounds. If anyone has a problem with the legal rules, let them change it.
 
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Morgan moaned about a bat deflection overthrow? Are we living in a South Park episode or what? :91:
 
Ashiwn and spirit of cricket in discussion again. Mankading (done), run on deflection from your partner (done), lets see what are some other spirit of cricket things he can put into discussion.

He doesn't care about all that drivel about "spirit of Cricket" that doesn't break any MCC/ICC rule. And rightly so..
 
Morgan himself is a disgrace to cricket. Winning the finals based on some rubbish boundary rule by breaking the spirit of the game, that win will always remain controversial in the history books.

Actually most England players are known for this whining. Botham is still bitter about the unexpected behaviour of those two balls by Wasim in 1992 WC Final vs England.
 
When its all said and done and we review careers we will see who the biggest disgrace is.

Morgans antics throughout his career speak for themselves . From skipping countries to skipping tours he has done it all ....and then cemented his status with a fluke world cup win in the only format he is any good at

Ashwin will be remembered as a champiom bowler/allrounder who for a time dominated cricket in all formats.
 
And england could had asked the unpire to not to count those runs..

They could still have declined to add on those runs to the total.
That would have been within the 'spirit of the game' and would have set a precedent.

You can still refuse to take those runs and ask the umpire to not add those runs to the total. Just like you take your wicket appeal back.

There is nothing within the laws that would allow Morgan to have requested the runs be removed from the teams total after the ball went to the boundary, it couldn't be done.
 
nvm i take my words back.

Jimmy Neesham has sided with Morgan, so if NZ sees nothing wrong with what happened when the 4 runs were given after hitting the batter, than we or Ashwin is no one to use that example.
 
england won a world cup through a deflection. Funny when the law comes to bite you they whine.

Who decides whats the done thing - a bunch of old hats sitting in their ivory tower? Also does the ‘done thing’ change from team to team - after all, weren’t Morgan & the English happy to accept a World cup won dubiously on similar grounds?

I have never liked Ashwin, but he is right in calling out the hypocritical & arbitrary cricketing moral high grounds. If anyone has a problem with the legal rules, let them change it.

The sense of fair play n spirit of cricket are unwritten rules set 150 yrs ago and have been mostly followed since

If ashwin chooses to not follow them then thats fine but he shouldnt act like an angel n someone whos smited for no reason

You act against fair play be prepared to accept being called out for it
 
england won a world cup through a deflection. Funny when the law comes to bite you they whine.

Nobody ran for the overthrows and they couldnt be retracted once the ball went to the boundary

The rules or spirit of cricket werent broken There was nothing unjust or unfair in what happened Just bad luck for NZ
 
Good god. I am tried of these spirit of the game lectures. Utter nonsense.

The rules are the rules. Ashwin did not make them, he is simply following them. I don't get why some of these players try to act morally superior just because they showed sportsmanship on certain occasions. Just get over yourself mate.
 
I don’t think gilly would give lecture on spirit on cricket

I’m just happy new age Tamizhan cricketers want to win and aren’t meek.
 
Again, Ashwin trying to sound smarter than he is. He really flatter himself with these antics.

Ashwin has zero sportsmanship, that's a fact.

Yes, batsman can technically take a run off of a deflection but 99% of the batsmen do not do it and have not been doing it for years.

So, there is no fight here and Ashwin is no messiah! He just doesn't like to play in the right spirit - would be nice that he stops with these pseudo intellectual debates he gets into on social media.
 
The sense of fair play n spirit of cricket are unwritten rules set 150 yrs ago and have been mostly followed since

If ashwin chooses to not follow them then thats fine but he shouldnt act like an angel n someone whos smited for no reason

You act against fair play be prepared to accept being called out for it

When did Ashwin claim he was an angel? And if these spirit rules are to be strictly observed, why are they not codified in the laws of cricket? Atterall had all the time in the world to do so, if as you say they are 150 years old :)
 
When did Ashwin claim he was an angel? And if these spirit rules are to be strictly observed, why are they not codified in the laws of cricket? Atterall had all the time in the world to do so, if as you say they are 150 years old :)

"Am i a disgrace like morgan said"?

If you continually break crickets code of spirit and fair play what does he expect to be called?
 
Non issue...its all within limits.
Spirit of the game is all relative..
 
England & their players have funny take on spirit of cricket.

Run out Kiwi batsmen after accidently bumping into them due to which they fail to complete the run.
But plead NZ to take back the appeal (which they did) for the same...

Accept deflected boundary because well...rules..it's unfortunate but rules...you know
Call other players disgrace for doing the same...

Question Ashwin's runout of Buttler and say it's against spirit of cricket
But Anderson shredding Ashwin's image totally in spirit of cricket...

The list could go on... lol
 
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First of all Ashwin didn't see it. So there is nothing wrong in what he did.
Second , even if he did , Morgan can't call it a disgrace.
Morgan should apologize considering Ashwin didn't do it on purpose.
 
Bowlers sometime appeal for leg before knowing that ball was not going to hit stumps at all OR batsman who knows he has nicked still waits for DRS to confirm.
But no spirit is broken there.
Come mankading or deflected overthrow and same bowlers/batsmen would talk about spirit.

The spirit of the game is a farce.
Anything done within rules of game is within spirit of the game.
 
I think disgrace is too harsh a word, especially if Ashwin didn't see it surely it is Rishabh Pant who should have told him no no the ball came off me.

But to be honest Ashwin's high and mighty holier than thou oh look at me I like to read books self righteous nonsense is irritating. This isn't the first time he has been involved in an incident like this. He should just accept that he doesn't agree with the universal concept of 'spirit'. It's fine if he doesn't accept it but just be honest about it man and stop pretending you are some kind of messiah.
 
"Am i a disgrace like morgan said"?

If you continually break crickets code of spirit and fair play what does he expect to be called?

Who decides code of spirit
Players who giving gyaan on spirit of the game will run for their life if such situation arise in any tight knock out game of ICC tournament
Like many posters mentioned in this thread it's all relative..that is why we have handful of examples players following code of spirit when it matters the most
 
What is spirit of game exactly? It's overrated and nonsense exactly.. In the end only win is matter..
 
Pointless drama. At least mankading was a higher stakes issue because the batsman was gaining an unfair advantage out of it and there was a potential wicket involved.

This is 2-3 singles in a game at best.

Ashwin is constantly on edge looking to create drama and stay in the spotlight.
 
Who decides code of spirit
Players who giving gyaan on spirit of the game will run for their life if such situation arise in any tight knock out game of ICC tournament
Like many posters mentioned in this thread it's all relative..that is why we have handful of examples players following code of spirit when it matters the most

Not all dont Theres been incidents in the past notably where walsh didnt mankad an opponent in a tight knockout finish in a high profile tournament Just gave a warning to the batter

Its been universally accepted to follow certain unwritten rules until now Ashwin needs to stop being controversial and just start being in the headlines for the right reasons not the wrong ones
Its not a good look
 
Not all dont Theres been incidents in the past notably where walsh didnt mankad an opponent in a tight knockout finish in a high profile tournament Just gave a warning to the batter

Its been universally accepted to follow certain unwritten rules until now Ashwin needs to stop being controversial and just start being in the headlines for the right reasons not the wrong ones
Its not a good look

Thats what I am saying there are hardly 2-3 (Walsh,Gilly) incident I know players following spirit of code in high profile matches

And no it is not universally accepted to follow any unwritten rules. Players follow it only when there is nothing much on stake.
 
Not all dont Theres been incidents in the past notably where walsh didnt mankad an opponent in a tight knockout finish in a high profile tournament Just gave a warning to the batter

Its been universally accepted to follow certain unwritten rules until now Ashwin needs to stop being controversial and just start being in the headlines for the right reasons not the wrong ones
Its not a good look

Since we are talking about sportsmanship, what part of it allows a player to call another player a disgrace?
 
N I seriously don't understand criticism on mankading
Why any bowler should give warning to a batsman who shamelessly stealing distance which hugely benifit him in stealing a run...
 
Cricket is now an unrecognizable skeleton of the great sport it used to be.

People with superficial understanding of the game are not equipped to recognize that they are simply living off the work of a 150 painstaking years of building the game to where it is today. They are starstruck by gaudy shows put on by corporate cowboys who are eroding its strong roots, blow by blow, while raking in cheap cash.

To them and their stooges, like Ashwin, and their brain dead supporters, trampling on yet another one of the game's great traditions is fair game. They will eventually kill this sport just like they are killing each and every one of its great foundations.
 
People n Players who lecture on holy SPIRIT OF CRICKET unwritten laws are biggest Hypocrite creatures in the world

Spirit of Cricket is nothing but biggest farce of the game
 
Ethical Morgan getting outside help on deciding bowling changes

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I think they all need to move on. This Disgracegate is getting blown out of proportion.
 
What's the issue with this in terms of ethics? It's no different than having a 12th man relaying tactical information.

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What's your take on this infamous incident when Bob Woolmer communicated with Cronje entire duration of match
 
Ashwin has raised another important question. I agree with him: if it is legal, why not use it to your advantage? Till ICC puts this "Spirit of Cricket" in clear written documentation that everyone can understand and follow, it will always be open for interpretation and will always lead to controversies like this.

Also, Morgan's reaction was unnecessary calling Ashwin a "disgrace".

But Ashwin should also make sure that he is not always at the centre of such controversies.
 
Cricket is now an unrecognizable skeleton of the great sport it used to be.

People with superficial understanding of the game are not equipped to recognize that they are simply living off the work of a 150 painstaking years of building the game to where it is today. They are starstruck by gaudy shows put on by corporate cowboys who are eroding its strong roots, blow by blow, while raking in cheap cash.

To them and their stooges, like Ashwin, and their brain dead supporters, trampling on yet another one of the game's great traditions is fair game. They will eventually kill this sport just like they are killing each and every one of its great foundations.

It surely is.

There is "colour" in it now. How dreadful.
 
Bowlers in the 70s 80s used to target batsman head just to hurt them, players like Thomson have openly admitted to trying to hurt batsman by hitting them on the head, actually he even uttered the words "I" ll kill you".
Now these same 70s 80s nostalgic fans are trying to teach us about spirit of cricket. Lol
Not to mention players playing with aluminum bats, bowling underarm and leaving national board for Kerry Packer.

Cricket is played with a much better spirit than earlier and it will keep on improving. Eoin Morgan is the same guy who won a world cup by ball deflecting off the bat. Lol

Also the mandatory "Ashwin is thrice the cricketer Morgan is".
 
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What's your take on this infamous incident when Bob Woolmer communicated with Cronje entire duration of match

I don't think it should've been outlawed. If a team really want the 12th man can stand on the boundary with a radio linked to the changing room relaying instructions from the coaching staff to the players, I don't see why making that process simpler is an issue. Stats and analysis can help but they aren't everything.

12th man doesnt do it every ball

And the signs from the analyst don't change every ball.
 
I don't think it should've been outlawed. If a team really want the 12th man can stand on the boundary with a radio linked to the changing room relaying instructions from the coaching staff to the players, I don't see why making that process simpler is an issue. Stats and analysis can help but they aren't everything.



And the signs from the analyst don't change every ball.

that could be in the rules,but how's that in 'spirit of the game' when captain is supposed to be his own man only to be helped by teammates on field?
 
that could be in the rules,but how's that in 'spirit of the game' when captain is supposed to be his own man only to be helped by teammates on field?

A captains never using purely just their own ideas in the field. They'd have got a ton of information from their analysts beforehand and will continue to get information from them through the 12th man during the game. I see no reason why that shouldn't also be done through signage during the game or why that would be unethical.
 
Cricket is now an unrecognizable skeleton of the great sport it used to be.

People with superficial understanding of the game are not equipped to recognize that they are simply living off the work of a 150 painstaking years of building the game to where it is today. They are starstruck by gaudy shows put on by corporate cowboys who are eroding its strong roots, blow by blow, while raking in cheap cash.

To them and their stooges, like Ashwin, and their brain dead supporters, trampling on yet another one of the game's great traditions is fair game. They will eventually kill this sport just like they are killing each and every one of its great foundations.

Very true Its a great shame what cricket and cricketers have become The greed the power the win at all costs mentality by fair or unfair means has destroyed the great gentlemens game

Im not surprised so many posters are defending aswins disgraceful antics

This is the state of "cricket" today and these are its "fans"
 
There is nothing within the laws that would allow Morgan to have requested the runs be removed from the teams total after the ball went to the boundary, it couldn't be done.

How about after the incident?
shoudn't ICC be ruling on any richochet's off batsmen trying to regain the crease and getting in way of the throw cannot run for an extran run?
I can understand batsmen running after ball richchets off the stumps (direct hit) because the back up fielder was NOT good enough but surely deflecting off a moving mass (the batsmen) is not on....and since it has not been addressed at the time or after the WC , Ash was right in taking the extra run.
Althought it still could be argued that at the time of him turning around, he would not be knowing that it has rebounded off pant's bat/hand etc, there's micro seconds to judge and run.
It could also be argued that Southee and Morgan laying into him might have also influenced his decision to make the run count , if he was considering to negate the run - having given the benefit of knowledge (after completing the extra run) that it bounded off pant's bat body.
And lastly, if u say there is nothing in the laws, then there is ALSO nothing in the laws that also prevent Morgan and the english team to negate 'those extra runs' - doing that would be in the spirit of the game.
They did'tn and now you have Eoin morgan taking the high ground.
I'd say the same if If was a non indian in place of ashwin.
 
How about after the incident?
shoudn't ICC be ruling on any richochet's off batsmen trying to regain the crease and getting in way of the throw cannot run for an extran run?
I can understand batsmen running after ball richchets off the stumps (direct hit) because the back up fielder was NOT good enough but surely deflecting off a moving mass (the batsmen) is not on....and since it has not been addressed at the time or after the WC , Ash was right in taking the extra run.
Althought it still could be argued that at the time of him turning around, he would not be knowing that it has rebounded off pant's bat/hand etc, there's micro seconds to judge and run.
It could also be argued that Southee and Morgan laying into him might have also influenced his decision to make the run count , if he was considering to negate the run - having given the benefit of knowledge (after completing the extra run) that it bounded off pant's bat body.
And lastly, if u say there is nothing in the laws, then there is ALSO nothing in the laws that also prevent Morgan and the english team to negate 'those extra runs' - doing that would be in the spirit of the game.
They did'tn and now you have Eoin morgan taking the high ground.
I'd say the same if If was a non indian in place of ashwin.

When you say they should've negated those extra runs how are you proposing the should have gone about that?
 
Ashwin is arrogant person
He has issues with everyone, he involves in everything on social media.
That's why Punjab Management kicked him out and sacked captaincy
 
When you say they should've negated those extra runs how are you proposing the should have gone about that?

The same way Gundappa Vishwanath, captain of India walked up to Bob taylor on no less a grand occasion as the Golden jubilee test , Bombay in 1978 and told him to bat on as he believed the umpire had made a wrong decision. That partnership with Ian botham was crucial and probably won the game (even though the match was Botham's match.)
If someone really wants to do it, if it really comes to it, there are several ways sportsmanship can be displayed- eg Sunny G walking in the semis and finals of 1983 WC without even looking at the ump...
Yep, i could be biased with those examples and am sure there are several examples of other players too...but nothing stopped morgan from quckly communicating with the umps (after watching the replays) and telling them he wanted those 4 runs negated.
Hence the hypocricy and hence all the angst....
 
Very true Its a great shame what cricket and cricketers have become The greed the power the win at all costs mentality by fair or unfair means has destroyed the great gentlemens game

Im not surprised so many posters are defending aswins disgraceful antics

This is the state of "cricket" today and these are its "fans"

As a cricket fan I can undersrand your frustration and disappointment, especially with the events of the last few weeks but keeping that in the background - Sorry m8 - a rather grandiose and sweeping statement, very generic.
As far as 'disgraceful' goes, that is the very point that Ashwin protested against....Mr morgan WC winner and the hypocrisy of the deflected boundary....
 
As a cricket fan I can undersrand your frustration and disappointment, especially with the events of the last few weeks but keeping that in the background - Sorry m8 - a rather grandiose and sweeping statement, very generic.
As far as 'disgraceful' goes, that is the very point that Ashwin protested against....Mr morgan WC winner and the hypocrisy of the deflected boundary....

Youre comparing two very different incidents, they are oranges and apples In no way are they the same or equivalent examples
 
IPL 2021: 'I felt they already decided to have a go at me' - R Ashwin on spat with Eoin Morgan, Tim Southee

Delhi Capitals off-spinner Ravichandran Ashwin once again opened up on the on-field spat with Kolkata Knight Riders captain Eoin Morgan and fast bowler Tim Southee, and said that the reason he was charged up was because he felt the KKR players had already decided before hand to have a go at him.

The debate over 'spirit of cricket' had reignited once again after Morgan & co. complained that Ashwin tried to steal a single after the ball was deflected by Rishabh Pant's body from a throw.

But Ashwin said that he had not even seen the ball hitting Pant, and said that it was wrong of KKR players to "give a sendoff" to a batter who has just been dismissed.

"Look, I think it is definitely not a personal battle or one-on-one battle. Personally, I would not deem it like that. People who want attention may be taking it that way, but I am not looking it that way at all. The incident that happened the other day was, I got really charged up because that was entirely untoward by both Tim Southee and Eoin Morgan to give the batter a sendoff who just got out," said Ashwin while replying to an ANI query during a virtual press conference after DC beat Chennai Super Kings by 3 wickets to claim top spot in the IPL 2021 table.

"The worst situation was that I was not aware that the ball had hit Rishabh so I just felt like that they already decided to have a go at me. That is one of the reasons I said that the words which were used were not in the right direction and not in the right space. Beyond that, we need to understand that culturally people are different, the way people are brought up to play cricket in England and India, the way one thinks is completely different," he added.

"I would not say anyone is wrong here, it is just that the sort of way the game was played in the 1940s cannot be the way that you want somebody else to apply it. My two cents to this are that you want to play the game in the way you want to, but do not expect that if it is not within the laws of the game and have a go at them for unnecessary reasons," he signed off.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/ipl-2021-i-felt-they-already-decided-to-have-a-go-at-me-r-ashwin-on-spat-with-eoin-morgan-tim-southee-101633410695939.html
 
The same way Gundappa Vishwanath, captain of India walked up to Bob taylor on no less a grand occasion as the Golden jubilee test , Bombay in 1978 and told him to bat on as he believed the umpire had made a wrong decision. That partnership with Ian botham was crucial and probably won the game (even though the match was Botham's match.)
If someone really wants to do it, if it really comes to it, there are several ways sportsmanship can be displayed- eg Sunny G walking in the semis and finals of 1983 WC without even looking at the ump...
Yep, i could be biased with those examples and am sure there are several examples of other players too...but nothing stopped morgan from quckly communicating with the umps (after watching the replays) and telling them he wanted those 4 runs negated.
Hence the hypocricy and hence all the angst....

Withdrawing an appeal and walking without the umpire giving you out are both allowed and doable within the laws, removing runs from your own total is not.
 
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