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Big decisions off late. Looks like pendulum has swung and door is shut on imported government.
Its called buying time. Has the CJP been asleep as these thugs have run amok, killing and threatening people that work in these institutions. Who made the decision to put Dr Rizwan on the no fly list and Why? What did he do that was illegal? The money was in the Accounts of the Sharifs? Who put it there? Who is Maqsood Chaprasi?
Just topi drama. I have no faith in CJP Bandial.
Islamabad High Court Chief Justice Athar Minallah said on Monday that the political leadership should stop fighting and move towards solving the country's real issues.
The IHC CJ's comments came in light of the ongoing cases registered against journalists across the country.
Journalists Arshad Sharif, Moeed Pirzada, Sami Ibrahim, judicial assistant and president of the Islamabad High Court Journalists Association Saqib Bashir appeared before the court today.
Justice Minallah questioned "why every government that comes to power forgets the past". "The Baloch students were being baton-charged by the last government, and the current government isn't listening to them either," he said, questioning whether the state thought it had any responsibility towards its people.
There no one to raise voice for the missing persons, the IHC CJ further maintained.
The high court expressed displeasure towards the federal government after the home secretary did not submit his response regarding the matter.
CJ Minallah remarked that these problems will be resolved "if even half the lawmakers currently embroiled in the struggles for power put in efforts". He added that, "The state itself does not play any role to deal with the issues of violation of fundamental rights."
The court suggested the federal government devise a mechanism that facilitates filing complaints in one place by journalists facing any problem.
It later sought suggestions regarding a mechanism to deal with journalists' complaints and granted the IHCJA president's request for more time and adjourned the hearing till June 4.
Express Tribune
Being openly criticized now....
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A meeting of the government and its coalition partners is underway at the Prime Minister House after the Supreme Court on Monday rejected the request to form a full court bench on petitions related to the recently held Punjab chief minister’s re-election — including a review of its interpretation of Article 63-A.
Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl chief Maulana Fazl Rehman, PPP Chairman and Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto Zardari are among the senior political leaders and government figures in attendance.
Leaders of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Pakistan, members of the Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid, Awami National Party, Balochistan Awami Party, Balochistan National Party and other government-allied parties are also present at the huddle, along with PML-N Vice President Maryam Nawaz and other senior PML-N figures.
The coalition meeting resolved to not back down from its demand for a full court and also decided upon its future strategy in light of the apex court’s decision.
The government leaders agreed to move forward with a joint plan of action.
Full bench would’ve exposed ‘contradiction in SC’s own verdicts’: Maryam
Meanwhile, Maryam made a series of critical tweets soon after the apex court’s verdict, saying the reason the request for a full bench was rejected was the fear of contradictions in the court’s own decision.
“When the decisions are not in accordance with the Constitution, law and justice, there is a danger from the full court. Because with the involvement of honest judges, the flaws of a decision come to the fore and people know that the decision is not based on the Constitution and the law, but personal preferences.”
Planning Minister Ahsan Iqbal said the court’s ruling had laid the foundation of a “new political crisis” in the country. He questioned if the judiciary would accept responsibility for the economic effects arising from the crisis.
Coalition reiterates demand for full bench
Earlier in the day, the coalition government had reiterated its demand for the formation of a full bench to hear the case regarding the Punjab CM’s election.
On Friday, Punjab Assembly Deputy Speaker Dost Mohammad Mazari decided not to count the PML-Q’s votes in the Punjab chief minister’s election, deeming them to be against party head Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain’s directions and thus handing PML-N’s Hamza Shehbaz the victory over PML-Q leader Chaudhry Parvez Elahi.
During the press talk, which came hours before the apex court resumed hearing Elahi’s petition against Mazari’s ruling, members of the coalition government came down hard on the judiciary and questioned its impartiality.
They also questioned the court’s decision to restrict the entry of all political leaders present during the press conference. According to an Islamabad police official, only the leaders of respondent parties were allowed to enter the court premises with the permission of the SC administration.
At the outset of the press conference, PML-N Vice President Maryam Nawaz said that she had been advised not to hold the media talk as it would affect her appeal in the Panama Papers case that was being heard by the Islamabad High Court and was in its “final stages”.
“However, I said that the people’s representative has to think beyond themselves and think about the people.”
Commenting on recent court decisions, Maryam said that their impact stays for decades and intensifies over time.
“I can write an essay praising the judiciary but one wrong decision will dismiss the entire [argument],” she said. On the other hand, a decision based on justice can withstand criticism, she said.
She alleged that petitions were being filed with the court and were not being fixed or were facing delays.
Our justice system is such that when a petition is filed, the people already know what bench will be constituted and the decision that will be given, she said.
Maryam gave several examples of the PML-N’s legal woes, claiming that the party’s leaders were being discriminated against.
She also gave the example of Hamza, saying: “Have you ever heard of a trustee chief minister?”
She said that since Hamza was elected chief minister of Punjab, he was not being allowed to work. “He goes from parliament to court, and back and forth. What justice is this?”
The PML-N vice president pointed out that there were many respected judges appointed to the apex court and questioned why they were not involved in hearing cases.
“One or two judges, who have always been anti-PML-N and anti-government, they are repeatedly included in the bench,” she said, adding that “bench-fixing is a crime just like match-fixing”.
It should be noted that the case on the legality of the Punjab deputy speaker’s ruling is being heard by a three-member bench comprising Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Umar Ata Bandial, Justice Ijazul Ahsan and Justice Munib Akhtar— three of the five judges who deemed that the then National Assembly deputy speaker Qasim Suri’s decision to dismiss the vote of no-confidence against PTI chief Imran Khan in April was contrary to the Constitution, paving the way for his ouster as prime minister.
Justices Bandial, Ahsan and Akhtar were also instrumental in the split decision that disallowed the votes of defecting lawmakers from being counted in the Punjab chief minister election, the verdict that set the stage for the re-election that took place last week.
During the press conference, Maryam also alleged that court decisions were favouring the PTI even though they were mocking the judicial system.
She questioned the state of judicial system and where the country was headed if decisions were given in favour of those who “abuse and bully institutions”.
3 people can’t be allowed to decide country’s fate: Bilawal
Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari asserted that the country’s democratic parties had only one demand: the formation of a full court bench.
“It cannot happen that only three people decide this country’s fate. That only they decide whether this country is run through a democratic system, an elected system or a selected system.”
Bilawal said that all the parties in the coalition government wanted a democratic system.
He went on to say that “some powers” were unable to digest that Pakistan was moving towards democracy and the people were making their own decisions.
He said that the PTI chief had trampled on the province’s rights during his time in government which had proven to be disastrous for the country and the economy.
Bilawal said that as a result of the government’s democratic struggles, the country’s institutions were compelled to change their “controversial, unconstitutional and undemocratic role”.
“And it has been three months and some powers, people, political parties and conspirators are unable to tolerate […] a campaign is being run in the country to keep Imran Khan at the forefront.”
He alleged that this campaign was a conspiracy against the country’s economic progress and democratic journey.
“We did not let any conspiracy succeed in the past and we will not let it happen now. We want institutions to remain uncontroversial.”
The foreign minister said that everyone will accept the verdict when all the judges listen to the case.
“If only three judges give a decision, then we will not be able to control the political situation that will develop in this country.”
He said that the Constitution could not be altered due to the pressure asserted by the PTI chief.
“We all want full court bench. Whatever you decide then will be according to the law and Constitution and we will trust it.”
Maulana endorses Maryam’s view
During the media talk, Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman endorsed Maryam’s view saying that fingers were being pointed at the judiciary.
He said that the government wanted to strengthen the judiciary so that their decisions spoke for themselves. “They shouldn’t have any conflict or give the impression of being biased.”
He said that a government given the mandate by the people was not being allowed to function. He went on to say that when a government was not formed as per the will of the country’s institutions, a new setup was imposed through rigging.
“Institutions meddle in political affairs to protect the state but do they ever think that the state is weakened due to their interference?” he asked.
“You are sitting behind a wall. You may decide whatever you want […] and make politicians the culprit in the eyes of the public and defame them. But hold yourself accountable.”
The Maulana said that the government did not expect any justice from the current bench and reiterated the government’s demand for a full bench.
He went on to say that the government supported what Maryam said earlier, saying that this was their “united stance”.
“Don’t take this nation to a point where people rebel against institutions,” he said.
He said that the people’s confidence in the country’s institutions needed to be restored but the latter should also assess their role and hold themselves accountable.
“We want to make country’s future brighter but for that, stability for the government is important […] We are united on the fact that we have to set the economy right but let us do it.”
The JUI-F said that it was very easy to “create difficulties”.
“If you expect us to not create any difficulties for you, then it is also your obligation to not create difficulties for us […] if there’s support for parliament, institutions and the government, the country will stabilise.”
‘No one will be satisfied with 3-member bench’s decision’
Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) leader Khalid Magsi also endorsed the views expressed by the others and warned that the country was heading towards “civil war”.
“Institutions should wake up and ego issues should be resolved. If everyone does their own job, things will improve,” he stated, adding that otherwise, no improvement would be seen even in the next 70 years.
Highlighting that parties in the ruling coalition had a significant number of supporters, he reiterated the demand for a full court. “If a three-member bench decides the matter, no one will be satisfied […] we will go back to square one.”
There is nothing wrong if all the judges sit together to serve this nation, he added. Magsi also suggested that a grand jirga be set up to define the country’s future direction.
PML-Q leader Tariq Bashir Cheema also reiterated the demand for a full court bench, adding that a decision should be taken “for once and all times to come”.
The PML-Q leader expressed the hope that the court would accept the demand for a the formation of a full court bench so that justice could be ensured.
Awami National Party’s (ANP) Aimal Wali Khan, in an apparent criticism of the SC’s Saturday order on Mazari’s ruling, said: “If decisions have to be made in such a manner, there’s no need for a party president. The parliamentary leader can have all the power”.
He stressed that the party president had the authority to make all “major decisions”.
“It is a simple fact that the parliamentary leader is answerable to the party president. The former has to follow the latter’s orders.”
The ANP leader stressed that all institutions should work within their ambit as defined in the Constitution, adding that “people and democracy will suffer in case of a conflict between the government, parliament and SC”.
Express Tribune
Is Mr Bandial still alive?
Just another drama queen taking his orders from you know who
Former prime minister and PTI Chairman Imran Khan has urged Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Justice Umar Ata Bandial “to stand with the nation to save the country from thieves”.
“I respectfully request honourable chief justice sahab on behalf of the nation that the time has come for Pakistan’s judiciary to stand with the nation and bring powerful under the law,” he said on Sunday while addressing the PTI’s long march participants via video link.
Except that the CJP is part of the same mafia . The SC have not stood with the PK people when it was needed the most, instead the SC has stood shoulder to shoulder with the establishment who are the biggest mafia
Justice Syed Mansoor Ali Shah and Justice Jamal Khan Mandokhail of the Supreme Court have called for revisiting the power of the “one-man show” enjoyed by the chief justice, saying that the country’s top court could not “be dependent on the solitary decision of one man”.
The two made the remarks in a detailed dissenting note — released on Monday hours after the SC took up the PTI’s plea challenging the postponement of elections in Punjab — for the top court’s March 1 verdict regarding holding elections in Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, where the two provincial assemblies have been dissolved.
Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Justice Umar Ata Bandial on February 22 took suo motu notice of the polls in Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, saying that there appeared to be a “lack of clarity” on the matter.
Justice Bandial also constituted a nine-member bench — comprising himself, Justice Ijazul Ahsan, Justice Syed Mansoor Ali Shah, Justice Munib Akhtar, Justice Yahya Afridi, Justice Sayyed Mazahar Ali Akbar Naqvi, Justice Jamal Khan Mandokhail, Justice Muhammad Ali Mazhar and Justice Athar Minallah — to hear the case.
The CJP on February 27, however, split the larger bench into a five-member bench. The SC also issued a written order, which was dictated in the open court on Feb 23 when Justice Jamal Mandokhail objected to the initiation of the proceedings under Article 184(3).
Signed by nine judges, the written order of the bench stated that keeping in view the Feb 23 order, the additio*nal notes attached by four jud*ges, the CJP’s direction to add questions raised by Jus*tice Shah, Justice Afridi, Justice Mando*khail and Justice Minallah, as well as discussions/deliberations made in the anteroom of the apex court, the matter was referred back to the top judge.
In response, the CJP recon*s*ti*tuted the bench comprising himself, Justice Shah, Justice Akhtar, Justice Mandokhail, and Justice Mazhar. Those who dissociated themselves from the hearing included Justice Ahsan, Justice Afridi, Justice Naqvi, and Justice Minallah.
On March 1, the SC, in a 3-2 verdict, directed the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) to consult with President Arif Alvi for polls in Punjab and Governor Ghulam Ali for elections in KP.
The majority judgement, given by CJP Bandial, Justice Akhtar, and Justice Mazhar, however, allowed the ECP to propose a poll date that deviates from the 90-day deadline by the “barest minimum”, in case of any practical difficulty.
Justice Mandokhail and Justice Shah — who were among the four judges who had written additional notes in the Feb 23 order — dissented with the ruling. In a joint dissent note, the two top court judges said that the suo motu proceedings initiated by the CJP were “wholly unjustified”, besides being initiated with “undue haste”.
In the 28-page detailed dissenting note, which was released on Monday, the two judges said that the top court’s “original jurisdiction” under Article 184(3) of the Constitution was not only “‘discretionary’ but also ‘special’ and ‘extraordinary’, which is to be exercised ‘with circumspection’ only in ‘exceptional cases’ of public importance relating to the enforcement of fundamental rights that are considered ‘fit’ for being dealt with under this jurisdiction by the court”.
Article 184(3) of the Constitution sets out the Supreme Court’s original jurisdiction, and enables it to assume jurisdiction in matters involving a question of “public importance” with reference to the “enforcement of any of the fundamental rights” of Pakistan’s citizens.
DAWN
While i have my differences with PTI, but they are absolutely right with regards that election should be held under 90 days of dissolving the assemblies. Constitution dictates this, and if you violate the constitution the supreme court will obviously intervene.
Shebaz Sharif has made a very stupid statement and it seems as if he has no idea how the govt works. In democracy you have a balance where each branch makes sure no one else exceeds there powers.
You cannot whine about judiciary intervening when you violate the constitution. PTI asked a simple question to the supreme court who gave a clear answer to it.
Nothing democratic about this government. They are in survival mode and will use every trick they can to hold on to their power.
shebaz shareef did hold a valid point that the supreme court judge should not be taking suo moto, decisions should not be taken by only one man, and constitutional crisis should be judged by a bench which is consistent. Justice Isa is a senior judge and about to become cheif justice yet he wasnt part of the bench. So yes issues are there and Natinal Assembly needs to fix them.
However, Shebaz Shareef is only interested in delaying elections and is coming up with excuses to damage the credibility of the courts.
Its funny how the dissenting remarks of two judges has caused a chaos. Those remarks left by them on the power of supreme court and changing the benches at will are absolutely valid. Kudos to the two judges for writing those notes
Where were these judges when suo moto was being taken up at mid night of April 2. The three you're referring to only speak when their masters tell them to.
FOr gods sake can you stop there is whereaboutism?
April 2nd issue was something else, the country was in a constitutional crises where a speaker and the PM was blocking the National aseembly form doing its job.
here you have ECP not conducting the elections.
So you believe that full benches should not exist? Benches should be changed and one judge of the supreme court decidde constitutional matters?
Be careful with your answer, because next CJ is Isa who PTI went all out against where they were on wtich hunt to show he was corrupt when he was not and threw every record in their faces.
Than again, you guys are the same people that defended Bajwas extention around here, and than we know what happened few years later![]()
The issue at hand sir is curbing the Chief Justice's power to take 'suo moto' action. Why is this coming up now? Hasn't the CJP taken suo moto action in the past and made benches as he wished. It has always been the case. And if Isa is going to carry an agenda of revenge then he wouldn't be fit to be a judge as he could be making biased decisions.
so you are saying judges should be able to take sou moto? Gradual improvement is not needed in the judiciary process?
Whats the whole point of NA than if the likes of you think laws should not be updated with time.
But than again, PTI supports those things that suit them better at the expense of ruining the country
It's a bogus NA, the only national party in the country is not even a part of this. If they want a full bench, why not a full Parliament to make this decision? Oh is it because they're trying to jack the constitution and running away from elections and they know they won't be back legitimately. The election issue is for Punjab, what's the need for National Assembly to intervene in a Provincial matter?
how is it a bogus NA? PTI themselves decided to resign from NA. its their fault. Maybe they should had sat on the opposition benches and accepted the VONC. They did not and have been paying the price for it.
Full parliament? Bro, plz read this
LEGISLATIVE PROCEDURE
The Bill relating to the Federal Legislative List can be originated in either House. If the House passed the Bill through majority vote, it shall be transmitted to the other House. If the other House passes it witdout amendment, it shall be presented to the President for assent.
https://na.gov.pk/en/content.php?id...relating to the,be originated in either House.
National assembly hasn't dissolved, only pti was foolish enough to leave, but national assembly still stands.
How has national assembly intervened in provincial matter? The NA is discussing the supreme court judges power, how is that a provincial matter?
So tell me in which legislative procedure is a bill passed this hastily. Already passed by NA in a single sitting. The most pressing matters of the country are economy related but government wants to debate judiciary powers.
Seems like they had this attack on judiciary planned from well before. It's a bogus NA because there's no signs of anything democratic going on. Right now it's a gang of crooks running the show with thier yes men brown nosing. Anyone that dissents is attacked on all levels.
Khair, another day another battlefield for Khan. He'll emerge victorious here too. PDM life support will only last so long
So tell me in which legislative procedure is a bill passed this hastily. Already passed by NA in a single sitting. The most pressing matters of the country are economy related but government wants to debate judiciary powers.
Seems like they had this attack on judiciary planned from well before. It's a bogus NA because there's no signs of anything democratic going on. Right now it's a gang of crooks running the show with thier yes men brown nosing. Anyone that dissents is attacked on all levels.
Khair, another day another battlefield for Khan. He'll emerge victorious here too. PDM life support will only last so long
if i were you, i would be the last person to complain about hastily bills. PTI had 80+ bills passed in one day just to mess with pmln.
its not abogus NA, as its based on elected members. Just because you dont like doesnt make it bogus.
The bills PTI passed were to allow the nation to meet FATF requirements and exit the grey list. The army also ensured your beloved chors were forced to allow the bills to pass which is a good reminder that the army can be against these thieves in the future too.There is also a history of pmln bribing some judges and attacking the Supreme Court and only corrupt and criminally employed people consider them to be politicians.
Your criminal leaders who accepted NRO to sit in the parliament refused to allow the bills to pass as evidence of their corruption and treason was proven in courts and they were trying to pressure Imran Khan to allow them another NRO so they can continue to loot Pakistan as they are shameless traitors who have brought Pakistan to the brink.
FATF did not require for president ordinances to be passed. PTI couldn't pass bills lol they didnt even have the numbers for it, they got ordinances go through. FATF did not require 78 ordinances to be passed.
Zardari doesnt take permission from IK, Zardari is establishment, it is IK who fears from Zardari![]()