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“If you bring average people then you will get average decisions” : Shoaib Akhtar

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Shoaib Akhtar on YouTube after the 2nd T20I against England:

“Pakistan made a lot of mistakes but they played well. The batting was good, Hafeez took his time and then capitalized. But we didn’t make runs in the middle order at the rate we should have. We needed acceleration and we aren’t getting it like Malan and Morgan did.

“Pakistan can do wonders if they put their act together. Pakistan needs to fix their selection. Your premium fast-bowler Wahab Riaz is sitting out. You’re not playing Haider Ali. I think he should replace Iftikhar. You can promote Shadab.

“Pakistan didn’t make enough runs. 195 is OK but on this wicket against this attack, you can make 230. Malik, Iftikhar, and Babar made around 78 off 65 balls. Morgan, Malan, Bairstow make 100-125 in this many balls.

“I don’t know how Pakistan’s confidence can come back to the level of the 90s. Misbah is sitting their holding his head. I can understand his frustration, but when are we going to give Babar the liberty to become his own captain? We don’t have a biosecure environment here, we have a bio-insecure bubble where everyone is insecure. People don’t know if they’re going to remain captain or become a brand.

“Babar looks like a lost cow to me. He’s out there, not knowing what to do. He should do captaincy himself and make his own decisions so that he can improve and become better. Getting parchis from outside and 3 guys advising him in the middle isn’t right. Babar needs to understand that this is something coming his way and he won’t get the chance during the rest of his life. He needs to try to become a brand. He can improve his own SR a bit also.

“When Bairstow, Malan, and Morgan bat, they are in command. Our players look scared and they don’t have strength. Hafeez is a smart guy and he knew where to go after them. He understands cricket.

“People say that Hafeez and Malik shouldn’t be there, they were playing with me in 2006. Well, the board selected them, not me so they think they can play. As long as they are performing, they can play even for 2 more years.

“Instead of Iftikhar you should play a proper batsman who can accelerate. We talk about brand building. In PSL, Shadab and Haider Ali are something else from what they are here. Don’t confuse selection, focus on brand and team building. You don’t have to only win the series, you need to build a brand and team.

“For this you need strong people and strong decisions with strong visions. How far can you go if you keep getting scared from the media? Have firm belief in yourself and make your own decisions. Think about where you need to take Pakistan cricket. Think about playing the new players, promote Shadab up the order and give him a chance to accelerate. Haider Ali is a brand, make him into a proper one.

“Confused management, confused captain, confused selection and confusion everywhere. This isn’t how you build a team. Build two new players, keep 4 players who are performing.

“Who is the spearhead of the Pakistan team? No one. In batting? None. OK, we have Babar Azam, but who can you say will really go after them? No one. This used to happen in the 90s where you could say 7 batsmen and 5 bowlers were match winners.

“To bring that era, you need the right people and you need to have guts. The board needs to realize that if you bring average people then you will get average decisions. I’m living a very comfortable life and I don’t need anything, I don’t need a job. But somehow, looking at the way we are going and our mentality and mindset, I think our cricket will end up worse than our hockey. This is what happens when you bring average people.

“It’s not about losing the game, it’s about the mindset. Where are you going in future and where are you going?

“I’m not criticizing them for the sake of it. I want Pakistan to improve. I need stars in the team. 5 strong batsmen. Flamboyant fast-bowlers. So what if we lose? We’re still losing. Have the right attitude. Morgan came and they didn’t bowl him one bouncer.

“Make a strong decision, Misbah and everyone. The bowling coach Viki bhai is there, tell the players what to do but if you can’t, there’s a huge problem. As a bowling unit and coach, it raises a lot of questions when you have such performances and who will answer them? You have to bear the pressure and answer the media. If you can’t, go back to wherever you came from. If you keep going like this then I can see destruction. Don’t do that, that’s not very healthy.

“Best of luck for the next game. Make strong decisions, stick to the young guns and demand performances. This isn’t a school academy.

“You have new coaches coming and saying they are learning. 5 new coaches and it’s their debut. Well, you’re learning and you’ve also come to teach. Who will do the teaching? Mushtaq Ahmed is saying the kids are learning. Is this a school academy? This is the time to perform. If we have hired top performers then we need top performances and outcomes.

“Become your own captain, and give the players confidence so that they know they are there for a year. Let them know they will play full series. Communicate with them.”
 
Don't agree completely with him but sensible and good comments.from Shoaib overall.
 
Premier bowler Wahab :)))

May the Lord forgive us.

In t20's he is not bad.
Ever since he has developed that around the wicket angle, where he runs from behind the umpire, his effectiveness has increased.

Him being the best bowler in the PSL isn't for nothing. There was a stat as well which illustrated that he was the best defensive bowler in the PSL
 
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What does he mean by Shadab ko ek badha brand ban na padheyga?

Presence on the field, sledging opponents, playing aggressive cricket and going for the wickets, and improving his batting to serve as a solid power hitter. Then secure some solid sponsorships and ads deals and become a star. Rise in the ICC rankings and win matches for your team from impossible situations.

As crazy as these things sound, this was the Pakistan of the 90’s and even to some extent in the 2000’s. We need more players like that. Shadab, Babar, Haider, Rizwan, Rauf, and Naseem can form a solid core for at least 5 years but we’re just not giving them that opportunity to express themselves.

That’s what Shoaib Akhtar means. I may not agree with his competency due to his inherently bipolar style of conducting business - but he’s completely right about what’s missing with the Pakistan team.

We didn’t win today because we didn’t have that killer instinct - for example, Babar caved into senior advice and bowled Iftikhar a 3rd over at the exact pivotal moment in the game. After securing two wickets back to back with Shadab, you needed to go for the kill and you bowled a part timer.

To be honest, I wouldn’t mind Akhtar in the setup if he removes the failing seniors and uplifts the mentality and aggressive attitude. Hell, if my shoe can achieve this, I will make it the Pakistan Chief Selector. I don’t care about how many genital warts or Indian fans it has.

To hell with Shoaib Malik.
 
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I'm not a big fan of Shoaib but he is correct to some extent. The Pakistan team have no fire, passion or aggression in their game.

Might as well give him a chance in the PCB setup, especially as every other person seems to be getting one!!!
 
Nevertheless, I agree with some of observations and his general attitude towards winning. That said, he knows nothing about domestic cricket and he would keep many of these guys around.
 
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At this point I'd even take an average Joe of the street to replace Misbah. The situation is THAT dire.
 
Not a Misbah fan, but also pretty fed up of Shoaib by now. Really hope he isn’t made selector or anything at all in the PCB.

I stopped reading after he said Wahab should play. Wahab is useless, we should have moved on from him a long time ago.

195 is a good total. Asking for 230 is outrageous. Our howling just wasn’t good enough. Will agree with him saying Iftikhar should be thrown out, there is zero performance or upside in playing him.
 
And speaking of average, Shoaib was fast but his career is hardly long enough for him to be anything other than just slightly better than average. He is not the world beater he thinks he is.
 
I agree.

Enough of mediocrity. Enough of choking in crunch moments. Enough of garbage like Malik.

PCB officials need to take a serious look in the mirror.
 
“I’m not criticizing them for the sake of it. I want Pakistan to improve. I need stars in the team. 5 strong batsmen. Flamboyant fast-bowlers. So what if we lose? We’re still losing. Have the right attitude. Morgan came and they didn’t bowl him one bouncer.

Completely agree with shoaib on this.
 
Selection of the squads have been pretty good from Misbah though he gets a lot of flak for it. Coaching wise he is too inexperienced and soft to get our so called larkay to man up.
Malik and Hafeez were dropped and brought back on Babar's insistence. Shoaib Malik outside of Asia is as useful as a plastic sword. Khushdil and Haider have been picked up, hopefully they can debut in place of Malik and Iftikhar in the next match. Shaheen, Amir, Haris Rauf, Hasnain, Wahab, Naseem are the best LOI fast bowlers in our circuit. Don't mind the overall selection of the squad, but the playing xi needs to better and be adjusted according to conditions. I would go for 4 pacers on these pitches. Imad becomes pretty easily hittable after the powerplay. This squad is give or take 3 4 guys is still the best squad we can put up. The main thing is getting to a higher level and play like a team.
Out of the main topic, but I still think Sarfraz should have retained captaincy in t20is. Rizwan has been an upgrade over him in tests in both keeping and batting wise, but sarfraz' reading of game esp in t20is is pretty good and is pretty good at capitalizing on a wicket.
 
totally agree here with Shoaibs comments..

They select players who are known to fail , because they have failed so many times in the past in the same conditions...

At the same time they select new and young players ,if played and backed after a few low scores or no wickets, they have the potential to do well and end up as a star or the batting/bowling spearhead in the line up as Akthar says here..

In reality what happens is the known failures will be selected in 11 first and then when they fail once or twice and the series is lost, they will give chances to new and young players for 1 or 2 matches, if they perform they will sit in the bench next series, if not they will be made the scapegoats for the series loss and seniors will come back to the 11 again in the next series...
 
For Misbah the first criteria for selection is age and enough experience in FC

He and Waqar doesnt have an eye for talent, which was evident from the previous tenures as leaders of the men..

Mickey would have used this tour to debut Haider in both Tests and T20Is...It would have been a great a learning curve for him... I rmb even tried to give chances to Imam in t20s so that he can improve his scoring shots and SR which would help him and team in ODIs.....

Look at the players MISBAH brought to this tour Sohail Khan, Imran Khan, Kashif Bhatti, Fawad Alam, Wahab riaz... Are these players your future......To select youngsters he selected Musa and Hasnain....when deserving players like Ehsan Adil, Sameen gul are not even in the list of 30s ...

I dont know why he is frustrated, he was the selector, he was the coach, he selected the captain and he selected the playing 11....What a Loser :facepalm
 
Mickey gave Shady, Faheem , Imam , Asif and so many more chances. Misbah is using same set of players , rather going backwards. I wanted to give Misbah chance but feel we are regressing. What we used to be good at is also lost. I don't understand if there is any future plan.
 
If this had happened under Mickey, he would have given a dressing down to a lot of guys in that dressing room and there would've been major changes to the XI for the next game. Let's see what almighty Misbah can conjure for the next match. Btw this PAK team is slowly turning into Misbah's mirror image. The timid nobodies who punch above their weight every once in a while only to lose again while giving credit to the opposition.

The one good thing that has come from this tour is that everyone is witnessing the thorough incompetentness of the team management from the coaches to the selectors (see what I did there :P )
 
Misbah is the kind of guy who seems to put lot of pressure on players when they're down and out , a completely opposite of this is Ravi Shastri, modern day Pakistan team fails maybe 7 out of ten times when they're put under pressure
 
Misbah is the kind of guy who seems to put lot of pressure on players when they're down and out , a completely opposite of this is Ravi Shastri, modern day Pakistan team fails maybe 7 out of ten times when they're put under pressure
Interesting observation. Rather than being sporting colleagues it becomes a baap beta relationship where the beta has to impress the baap. Hence the added pressure.

Extremely high level of respect doesn't work in sports where you have be tough.
 
A few of the players need to wake up and smell the coffee.

The plans from the management seem to be weak, the leadership on the field is confused. Yesterday was a shambles in the field.
 
We didn’t win today because we didn’t have that killer instinct - for example, Babar caved into senior advice and bowled Iftikhar a 3rd over at the exact pivotal moment in the game. After securing two wickets back to back with Shadab, you needed to go for the kill and you bowled a part timer.

To hell with Shoaib Malik.

Why didn't these seniors bowl themselves...

Surely Shoaib Malik is not playing as a specialist batsmen like Babar or Fakhar???
 
Shoaib has the same problem as 99% of our fans. The incapacity to bridge the gap between what we expect from the team and what the actual capability of the team is.

We need to address the core issue of our mediocrity - apart from 1-2 players, or maybe 2-3, our players are average and no, they are no world beaters waiting in the ranks either.

Teams have won in the past with average coaches and average staff, but no one has ever won with average players.

All this build a brand and act tough on the field and do this and do that is fine, but they don’t make up for basic lack of cricket skill and intelligence.

Other than the odd random win, we have absolutely no ability to beat the top sides because our players are average.

Pakistani players, fans, ex-players, analysts etc. have no understanding of cricket. They don’t have a clue.
 
Why is shoaib malik in the team? His batting is as good as shaheens in england?

If hes there only to give advice and confuse babar like yday then its better he isnt picked at all
 
If Pakistan cricket is so rubbish, how about some people on here stop watching and find better things to do with their time!
 
Misbah chair the review for MA , removed him as the coach. Made himself the coach and the selector . Select all his friends and go roam around Australia and now England lose all the matches come home beat Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and be happy about it. Next tour NZL rinse & repeat.
 
People say they lost against SA in SA , lost 20 ODIs and 10 T20s under MA , yes but they were building a young team forming a young unit also to the fact they lost matches going down to fighting not losing easily or been pushovers for the opponents.

Get rid of Misbah ASAP, head of mediocrity, senior lover, youngster hater. He has been a nightmare to Pak team for decades now.
 
Shoaib has the same problem as 99% of our fans. The incapacity to bridge the gap between what we expect from the team and what the actual capability of the team is.

We need to address the core issue of our mediocrity - apart from 1-2 players, or maybe 2-3, our players are average and no, they are no world beaters waiting in the ranks either.

Teams have won in the past with average coaches and average staff, but no one has ever won with average players.

All this build a brand and act tough on the field and do this and do that is fine, but they don’t make up for basic lack of cricket skill and intelligence.

Other than the odd random win, we have absolutely no ability to beat the top sides because our players are average.

Pakistani players, fans, ex-players, analysts etc. have no understanding of cricket. They don’t have a clue.

If they are average, they shouldn't be average for too long. They have been average for about 10 - 15 years.

The reason they don't rise above being average is two reasons: 1) lack of aggressive players 2) lack of leadership.

The two are linked, but the cricket board and so called expert analysts don't understand something that simple. They need to bat and bowl aggressively, not worry about losing because they lose most matches now anyway. If they encourage this culture good leaders for whom "aggression" is the "norm" and not something like a burden, will come through.

PCB's and most analysts' solution is to remove corruption in the system and change the structure. They have been trying to do this for a long time, but Pakistan cricket is suffering, because the already limited resources are not being utilised optimally. Of course corruption needs to be eradicated and structure needs to be changed but by the time this might happen, cricket will have suffered greatly and Pakistan will well and truly be a minnow.

Hence, the decision to drop Sarfraz and appoint Azhar in Tests was a step backwards not forwards.
 
An army of lions led by sheep will be decimated whereas an army of sheep led by a lion will punch above its weight.

You give Misbah the legendary Australian team, he will find a way to lose with them. His only plan of action is one dimensional defense.
 
Shoaib has the same problem as 99% of our fans. The incapacity to bridge the gap between what we expect from the team and what the actual capability of the team is.

We need to address the core issue of our mediocrity - apart from 1-2 players, or maybe 2-3, our players are average and no, they are no world beaters waiting in the ranks either.

Teams have won in the past with average coaches and average staff, but no one has ever won with average players.

All this build a brand and act tough on the field and do this and do that is fine, but they don’t make up for basic lack of cricket skill and intelligence.

Other than the odd random win, we have absolutely no ability to beat the top sides because our players are average.

Pakistani players, fans, ex-players, analysts etc. have no understanding of cricket. They don’t have a clue.

Perhaps your brain can't countenance the fact that good coaching (which admittedly Misbah is not demonstrably providing) can actually improve players. We've seen it ourselves with Babar, whose gone from being a talented yet inconsistent player in his early years to a more accomplished performer today.

Not all players are born world beaters, in fact most are forged.
 
In t20's he is not bad.
Ever since he has developed that around the wicket angle, where he runs from behind the umpire, his effectiveness has increased.

Him being the best bowler in the PSL isn't for nothing. There was a stat as well which illustrated that he was the best defensive bowler in the PSL

when Pacy talks, you listen.
 
Perhaps your brain can't countenance the fact that good coaching (which admittedly Misbah is not demonstrably providing) can actually improve players. We've seen it ourselves with Babar, whose gone from being a talented yet inconsistent player in his early years to a more accomplished performer today.

Not all players are born world beaters, in fact most are forged.

This is where you lose the plot.

Babar is not Babar today because of good coaching. He is Babar because he has a lot more ability than any other batsman in the team, and he was tipped for stardom long before Mickey got anywhere near the Pakistan side.

Coaches are not miracle workers. You give them good players and they will produce good results, and you give them bad players and they will give you bad results. It is that simple.

John Buchanan won 3 World Cups with Australia but he wouldn’t win a cup of tea with Pakistan.

If Mickey made Babar the world class batsman he is, how come his brilliant coaching methods didn’t work on other batsmen?

Coaching at the top level is a dummy position. Successful teams are built with good players and good captaincy.

India have had a drunkard in their dressing room for 3 years but they are successful because they have quality players and a quality captain.

You swap Shastri and Misbah and do you think the fortunes of India and Pakistan would change? Absolutely not.

Pakistan is a small cricket team now with very limited capacity to produce top talents. Our problems actually start from the fact that our cricket culture and mentality is rotten to the core.

By the time these average players get into the national side, it is already too late and the damage is done. Every now and then, you will get a high quality player like Babar and the coach will take credit for his success since success has many fathers.

Criticize Misbah for selection policies, for picking a more mediocre player over a less one etc., but there is no point in criticizing him for not helping average players turn into world beaters. No one can.

No one can be forged into a world beater unless he has the ability to be a world beater. Most of our players do not have that ability.

So where does that ability come from? What’s the source? At times it is pure natural talent, and at times it the very early cricket education and the foundations that are learned when you first play the game.
 
Right team selection won Pakistan the final T20I against England, says Shoaib Akhtar

LAHORE: Former Pakistan pacer Shoaib Akhtar said that the selectors finally made the right call in the third T20I against England and the result is there for everyone to see. His remark came as Pakistan defeated England in the third and final T20I to level the three-match series.

In the third T20I, Haider Ali, Wahab Riaz and Sarfaraz Ahmed were included the playing XI. “I have been repeatedly vouching for youngsters, Haider Ali was finally given a chance and see how he capitalised on the opportunity. I hope finally Pakistan has learnt a lesson,” Akhtar said on his YouTube channel.

“The youngster scored a half-century on his debut T20I and it was fantastic to see, the selection calls won us the final T20I against England,” he added.

Akhtar said that Mohammad Hafeez has shown the importance of experience, but he also raised some alarm bells for Shoaib Malik. Malik did not get a chance to bat in the final T20I, while he scored just 14 runs in the second match.

“Hafeez has been performing well, but there are questions over the selection of Shoaib Malik. The team should look to play him higher in the batting order and he should be bowling some overs as well,” Akhtar said.

Haider Ali registered a half-century in his very first T20I for Pakistan. With this, he became the first Pakistan batsman to make a half-century on his T20I debut. Haider Ali and Mohammad Hafeez put on 100 runs for the third wicket and this stand gave Pakistan much-needed momentum in the innings. Hafeez played an unbeaten knock of 86 runs as Pakistan posted a total of 190/4 in the allotted twenty overs.

Wahab Riaz and Shaheen Shah Afridi took two wickets each as Pakistan defended the total and won by five runs. The first T20I between both sides was abandoned due to rain, while the second match was won by England.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/sp...ainst-england-says-shoaib-akhtar-2191493.html
 
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