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“Not every day are you going to come and bowl 90mph. No one is a robot” : Jofra Archer

Imagine the hype if these two Shahs were playing for either England or India. :inti

both teams will never play a bowler this young because they know they need to be developed more. Which is why Mavi, Nagarkoti, etc never made it to the team despite the international team despite their pace and performance in u19 world cup
 
Archer is always making excuses. He needs to stop whining and just focus on bowling.
 
Archer is very talented and is already established as an LOI bowler.

He has a decent Test record as well, and no doubt offers a lot in the format — pace, bounce, seam movement, and a short run-up which means he can bowl plenty of spells with a low chance of injury.

Why he is not fully established in the Test team yet is that the England management and Archer himself still don’t seem to have fully worked out what his “role” in the team is.

Opening bowler? First change? Economical bowler? Bodyline bowler? Yorker bowler? Fast bowler? Fast-medium bowler? I’ve seen him do all of these so far, but never for more than a Test at a time.
 
Archer has been rested for the 2nd Test as per ECB.
 
He will be back tomorrow - and Pakistan batsmen better have a plan to play him.
 
JOE ROOT (on SkySports) gave a sharp response when quizzed on what he has asked of Archer…

"We want him to operate in sharp spells and bowl fast."
 
ATHERTON also wonders whether Archer's elbow injury last winter is still affecting him...

"Both the captain and coach have been quite pointed in the role they want Archer to have – bowl short, quick bursts. He has had a slightly underwhelming summer and hasn’t been at full pace throughout so it will be interesting to know how confident he is in that elbow, which he injured in the winter. Michael Holding has spoken about the mental hurdle a fast bowler has to overcome to unleash properly after an injury."
 
Jofra Archer bowling with all his might now!
 
Cranking in up ...93 mph, all balls 90mph or above except one.

He wont be able to maintain it too.. one or two overs max at that speed, then back to mid-high 80s
 
Not a single delivery above 150 kph. Don't know why he was billed as express pacer when he's just a fast bowler.
 
2nd over all between 90-93 mph. I think thats it for him, 2 overs at his top speed,maybe he has enough juice for one more.
 
No wickets.
Nothing above 150 kph.
Taken off the attack.

Disappointing.
 
It’s not just the fact that Jofra has been so rubbish for this summer. It’s the fact that you look at the players who sat out so Jofra could play! First Broad and Woakes. England lost a match for this and almost lost more.

And then also Curran, plus when Stokes was here (but couldn’t bowl) Crawley was left out so Archer could be included. And he couldn’t have an impact so Stokes had to bowl himself and get the wickets. England might as well have played Crawley then.
 
Done well for England today 2/33 in 4 - wickets of Finch and Warner.
 
Seems to be enjoying himself now Archer - maybe easier to motivate himself in T20Is
 
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Archer and Starc bowling 94mph

Rauf (Pakistan’s fastest bowler) just about managed 91. We still are behind with a pace bowler who can match express pace
 
Archer and Starc bowling 94mph

Rauf (Pakistan’s fastest bowler) just about managed 91. We still are behind with a pace bowler who can match express pace

Rauf bowled 92 mph, all through arm speed.
Get his legs behind him and he will easily go up 2 yards in pace.
 
Archer and Starc bowling 94mph

Rauf (Pakistan’s fastest bowler) just about managed 91. We still are behind with a pace bowler who can match express pace

I dont think rauf is pakistan fatest bowler proberly husnain
 
I dont think rauf is pakistan fatest bowler proberly husnain

Hasnain wouldn’t bowl over 91-92 either.

Naseem hardly hit 90 throughout the Test series. Shaheen when on song can go to 89MPH but that’s about it.

Whilst these boys are a major upgrade (speed wise) to a post Shoaib Akhtar dry period of bowlers such as Rahat Ali, Sohail Khan, Mohammad Amir, Imran Khan Jr, Aizaz Cheema etc. But they are well behind the true stallions of world pace bowling.

Rauf either bowls fast at 95mph or goes home.
 
Hasnain wouldn’t bowl over 91-92 either.

Naseem hardly hit 90 throughout the Test series. Shaheen when on song can go to 89MPH but that’s about it.

Whilst these boys are a major upgrade (speed wise) to a post Shoaib Akhtar dry period of bowlers such as Rahat Ali, Sohail Khan, Mohammad Amir, Imran Khan Jr, Aizaz Cheema etc. But they are well behind the true stallions of world pace bowling.

Rauf either bowls fast at 95mph or goes home.

Husnain has bowled 151 in cpl before
So if naseem can bowl 89 in tests shouldn't he be able to bowl faster in t20s and odis naseem proberly has the fatest average speed.
 
Hasnain wouldn’t bowl over 91-92 either.

Naseem hardly hit 90 throughout the Test series. Shaheen when on song can go to 89MPH but that’s about it.

Whilst these boys are a major upgrade (speed wise) to a post Shoaib Akhtar dry period of bowlers such as Rahat Ali, Sohail Khan, Mohammad Amir, Imran Khan Jr, Aizaz Cheema etc. But they are well behind the true stallions of world pace bowling.

Rauf either bowls fast at 95mph or goes home.

Tbh it's amusing how we define 'express' in this era, truth is pace has declined on the whole, there are a small number of bowlers who can truly be considered express. There was time many moons ago you had jobbers in South African domestic circuit who were averaging late 80s / early 90s etc in the modern game, it's embarrassing we call this express now.

This era is way too friendly for the batsman, too much cricket is being played and the luxuries promised by T20 leagues in the world ensure most bowl within themselves as well so bowlers only crank it up selectively and don't work hard enough to increase their pace because that's not the focus anymore.

Jofra bowled very quick today, but imagine this intensity in the Test series; however, can you blame these blokes when they know that the safety first approach will ensure they can cash in on the blast, IPL etc

Shoaib was a little too passionate about bowling quick but if he had someone like Bob Woolmer early in his career he would have 400 Test wickets minimum With the question regarding lack of speed demons, super star syndrome, T20 cricket and poor domestic wickets have contributed towards a lack of speed; also, with this era in general; that's not the focus anymore either.
 
Looks like he is reserving his best only against Aussies.

Perhaps but also the shorter format, I personally wouldn't feel as though I need to crank it up against a weak team like Pakistan. You say booo! and they will fall like a pack of cards, the Aussies are very strong mentally and you need to match their aggression / bring your best
 
Jofra looked a different player today for sure. He’s actually a very respectful bloke for someone who bowls that kind of heat! Man there were some deadly deliveries in that first over
 
He was in the mood today.

That first over he bowled was absolutely superb and almost unplayable. The bounce he was getting was incredible.
 
So it’s clear that England are going to use Archer and Woods to just bowl as fast as possible, and Chris Jordan as the specialist death bowler with the variation and skill as their World Cup pace attack, Stokes to play as the 4th seamer.

So what Pakistan should do is also look to replicate this IMO, it looks like a real ploy to play the strongest and most aggressive brand of cricket possible. Pakistan should try and use Rauf and Hasnain, and go for Riaz as the 3rd seamer with the skill and variation.

Shaheen and Amir seem to be a dead combination due to a lack of X factor pace, they will go for plenty!
 
[VIDEO] Is Jofra Archer scratching the ball here?

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Looks pretty innocent to me but some on Social Media suggesting he is scratching the ball with his necklace?
 
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So it’s clear that England are going to use Archer and Woods to just bowl as fast as possible, and Chris Jordan as the specialist death bowler with the variation and skill as their World Cup pace attack, Stokes to play as the 4th seamer.

So what Pakistan should do is also look to replicate this IMO, it looks like a real ploy to play the strongest and most aggressive brand of cricket possible. Pakistan should try and use Rauf and Hasnain, and go for Riaz as the 3rd seamer with the skill and variation.

Shaheen and Amir seem to be a dead combination due to a lack of X factor pace, they will go for plenty!

Are you saying if 3 pacers can only be played Rauf husnain and should play ahead of shaheen and amir
 
Pretty much, yes.

Shaheen is a bit toooo overrated on this forum

Shaheen averaged in 15 in the world cup 2019
Archer has better better stats in t20s but shaheen has better stats in odis

Riaz Is a good bowler but in terms of pace riaz pace has dropped not sure if he bowled any bowls over 89 against england weres shaheen bowled 89 in t20s and regular 86-87 in tests.

Raiz and husnain are good but none of them can bowl in the first 5 overs and will get consistanly
 
Husnain has bowled 151 in cpl before
So if naseem can bowl 89 in tests shouldn't he be able to bowl faster in t20s and odis naseem proberly has the fatest average speed.
Nope it was 155 ks he is capable of bowling 150ks consistently.
 
Archer is a top class bowler in the making. Gets way too much stick and hate. You guys analyse his every ball lol.
 
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Giving it his all - hit Finch on the head now
 
The most charismatic fast bowler in a long, long time.

Best in the world.
 
Flopped in the Test series and picked up a few wickets in LOI against the likes of the clueless Warner where posters have highlighted how to get him out.

Yes the same formats, where even Wahab Riaz is being touted as one of the best bowlers around. LOL

This is the guy that goes crying on social media at every opportunity and has as much charisma as a plank of wood.
 
Nope it was 155 ks he is capable of bowling 150ks consistently.

I gaurentee you brother, the speed guns they are using at Old Trafford and Southampton will not clock Hasnain at 155 (96mph) at all. He will be lingering around the 90-91 mark. Our boys are not as quick as Archer (in full flow) and Starc
 
Flopped in the Test series and picked up a few wickets in LOI against the likes of the clueless Warner where posters have highlighted how to get him out.

Yes the same formats, where even Wahab Riaz is being touted as one of the best bowlers around. LOL

This is the guy that goes crying on social media at every opportunity and has as much charisma as a plank of wood.

warner in odi is still quality though although he is a bit old now.
In test matches he has always been trash in subcontinent and in england.
 
Jofra Archer on his performance in the 2nd ODI vs Australia:

“I have no idea, to be honest! I guess if you feel well you are going to bowl well most of the time. Morgs gives me the freedom to bowl whatever I want. He very seldom tells you ‘no, don’t do that’. This is a second-day wicket so you don’t have to do too much or get too funky with variations.”
 
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He seems to be average in T20s, and highly inconsistent (often frustrating, occasionally brilliant) in Tests; whereas in ODIs he is a gun bowler. For whatever reason, his best format.
 
Flopped in the Test series and picked up a few wickets in LOI against the likes of the clueless Warner where posters have highlighted how to get him out.

Yes the same formats, where even Wahab Riaz is being touted as one of the best bowlers around. LOL

This is the guy that goes crying on social media at every opportunity and has as much charisma as a plank of wood.
The poster who keeps harping on about him being the best in the world has a weird obsession with anything English. His comments about the likes of Anderson, Jason Roy in the Ashes and Woakes are vindicating of that.

Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he believes colonialism is God’s gift to South Asia.
 
Always wants to stay in the news this Jofra Archer doesn't he?
 
Forget bowling for now.

Jofra Archer hits 27no off eight balls as he smashes four sixes in a row! 🏹


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Looks like one of them robot days for Jofra....

4 overs, 46 runs and 0 wickets
 
Jofra Archer Fastest in IPL : 152.13 kph - RR VS KKR, 12TH MATCH
 
Jofra Archer is the first bowler to reach 100 dot balls at IPL2020!
 
On Thursday, even though Sunrisers Hyderabad emerged victorious against Rajasthan Royals, their captain David Warner fell to a familiar rival – Jofra Archer. The England fast bowler dismissed Warner for the sixth time in seven innings this year. First over of SRH’s chase, Warner cracked a boundary but fell soon after edging the ball to Ben Stokes at slips. After the match, Warner spoke about his frustrations about getting out to his nemesis yet again.


“I think the way we started was fantastic. We were able to bring it back after the powerplay. It’s been a complete game; we have been asking for. Good to see two guys (Pandey and Shankar) getting the reward for their hard work,” Warner said after the match.

“I was frustrated in these games when you come against world class bowlers. There’s bit of swing and there’s bit of seam and you try hard to get through it, but with someone bowling at 150ks, you can’t do much. You can take him on and in my case, I got caught. We saw a lot of dew last night during training, and it came in again.”

The duel between Archer and Warner makes for some of the best rivalries between bowlers and batsmen over the year. Think about Glenn McGrath bowling to Sachin Tendulkar, or James Anderson steaming in to Jacques Kallis. These are some rivalries where bowlers have enjoyed an edge over batsmen. When it comes to Archer vs Warner, the England quick has not allowed the left-handed opener to get on top of him, with Warner scoring 32 runs from 45 balls.

Archer’s recent hold over Warner began during Australia’s limited-overs tour of England in September. Archer dismissed Warner in all four innings the left-handed batsman played, thrice getting him out for single-digit scores. In match 26 of the IPL, the meeting between Sunrisers and Royals, Warner had hit 48 off 38 balls before being castled by the England quick.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...t-to-archer/story-9H7CIWaCinXFhRorF8sW2J.html
 
‘You’re just counting days down until you’re free again’: Jofra Archer on life in the IPL bubble

Despite enjoying his best ever Twenty20 season the longing for normality to return grows ever stronger for the England quick

“I might actually get a calendar just to cross them down to feel like the days are going faster.”

It’s important to say right here that Jofra Archer is having a pretty incredible time at the Indian Premier League. His third season with the Rajasthan Royals is on course to be his best in any Twenty20 season.

He has 17 wickets with two regular-season games to go ahead of the play-offs, on course to better his tally of 22 achieved with Sussex in the 2018 T20 Blast. Eight of them have come in the first six overs – the most during that period in a domestic campaign – embracing a role as leader of the attack by, primarily, bowling rockets. The pitches of the United Arab Emirates, especially Sharjah, are no place for knuckleballs.

There have been runs, too. Efficient and blitzy runs: a tally of 107 from just 54 balls faced across the competition. Of those, 80 have come through 14 boundaries, 10 of them sixes. He is, without question, the Royals’ most valuable player.

But as time in the IPL’s bubble of hotel/ground/hotel passes seven weeks for Archer, the longing for normality grows ever stronger. Such is the way of the world right now, and thusly in cricket, the end of one bubble means preparing for the start of another.

The IPL final is scheduled for 10 November, with England due to leave the United Kingdom for their limited-overs tour of South Africa on either the 15th or 16th. Archer. Along with fellow English franchise teammates Ben Stokes, Jos Buttler and Tom Curran who are part of the Royals squad, Archer will have little “real world” time before returning to the strict confines of bio-security, regardless of whether they make the post-season.

“It’s a little better than being trapped at the cricket ground,” Archer says of the situation in the UAE after a summer spent onsite at either The Ageas Bowl (Southampton) or Emirates Old Trafford (Manchester). The hotels are grander, with greater room to roam, more activities and even a beach close by to whittle an hour or more away in the sun.

But the IPL brings with it other unique responsibilities. “If it’s not the media, it’s meet-and-greets and whatever.” He even cites this particular media engagement: “Even doing this now, you still can’t escape.” He then cycles through the dates of the playoffs: “It’s okay and it will be over soon anyway. You're just counting days down till you're free again.”

It is not lost on Archer that he is one of the lucky ones. A cricketer - more specifically, an English cricketer - who is not only earning and earning well, but playing. There are thousands of professionals across the world who will take the latter just to feel purpose again.

Indeed, if anyone knows about the challenges of quarantine and isolation, it is Archer. He spent more time in a bubble during the English summer than any other player. Along with his 87 days were only four of rest outside between the two Test series, against West Indies and Pakistan, then a further five days during the Pakistan T20 series. The toughest period was the second Test of the summer in which he was stood down but could not leave after visiting his flat in Hove while travelling from Southampton to Manchester.

Four months later, he is wary of much beyond his own well-being, such as the wider implications of a period where cricket will be played in relentless, concentrated pockets around the world primarily to the tune of broadcasters who want their allocated pound of flesh. Therefore, it would be no surprise to Archer if cricketers are forced to make a choice on where their futures lie, both internationally and when it comes to the formats they play. It is a dilemma fellow English quick Mark Wood has also articulated this week.

“Being a person that plays all three formats, I've probably done the most bubble days out of anyone. I've probably done just more than Jos," Archer continued.

“I think you'd have to play one or two formats, maybe. If you're going to play in all three formats, you can't play all the games.

“It just goes down to man-management. You can definitely play all three but they can’t expect you to play every single game of all three. It’s not impossible but I think you probably play two series in a year if you do and might be injured halfway through.”

There is a pause as the idea of a multi-format bowler’s ask in this new world - back-to-back Tests in multiple three- or five-match series, limited-overs obligations and, in 2021, a T20 World Cup and - dawns on him.

“God… thinking about it that is a lot of overs actually! I don’t think it’s impossible but you need to be managed properly, and I think everyone at England has done a great job."

Having been through different situations in different regions, Archer does have solutions. “Quarantine should be taken into consideration,” he says. “Having family and close friends in the bubble with you as well, that’s probably what I would suggest if someone asked me what I would like. I reckon about four days, five days in, you start to get a little bit of cabin fever. You need your family to take some of that pressure off you.”

Even these are not really remedies, merely ways the burden of sacrifice and solitude can be shouldered by others willing to carry it for you. Archer has had his parents over with him, while Buttler and Eoin Morgan, captaining Kolkata Knight Riders, were able to fashion quarantine into overdue, quality time with their partners.

But as these scenarios become more pronounced, perhaps naturally, camaraderie evolves. While Stokes was isolating in a New Zealand hotel after missing the end of the English summer to visit his father in Christchurch who had fallen seriously ill, Archer made sure to play Call of Duty with him when the timezones synced up. England players did similar with Archer in Manchester when he breached protocol and had to stay in his hotel room for five days. This was paying it forward.

When the allrounder arrived in the UAE and had another period of quarantine to serve, Archer and some Royals teammates went to Stokes’ room to keep him company. They chatted and drank from a safe distance – “behind the Covid line”, as Archer puts it - not least because he and they know he would do the same for them. “He's a great guy to have around, I don't just think that, I think everyone else here does. It's no coincidence that everyone's spirits and the performances have gone up since he's been here.”

What is most worrying, though, is that playing the game is evidently losing its nourishing qualities. A number of county cricketers over the summer admitted to these feelings of loss: not just drive but love at the prospect of continuing on without supporters at grounds, along with the constant anxieties of health and livelihoods that afflict us all during this pandemic.

Indeed, when asked what saps his enthusiasm most, Archer is unequivocal: “No crowds does. The bubble doesn’t.” The excitement, even of the IPL, he admits, is draining both through the grass and out of the ether. “It’s literally bowling in the nets again because no one’s watching other than the people on TV!"

But for all the challenges, Archer remains as phlegmatic as ever. “I guess it’s the best of a bad situation,” he says with a shrug. “So no complaints.”

It is worth remembering “the best” of a bad situation is still a bad situation. And however cricket might continue, in South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and across the world for the foreseeable future, that will only get worse.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...oyals-indian-premier-league-ipl-b1401984.html
 
Wickets: 20
Bowling average: 18.25
Economy rate: 6.56

Runs: 113
Batting strike-rate: 179.36

Jofra Archer has been named the MVP at this year's IPL.
 
The Indian conditions aren’t new to Jofra Archer. A couple of years ago, the Barbadian travelled to this part of the world for the Indian Premier League and made an impact.

But when England takes on India for the first Test in Chennai, it will be the first time Archer will be featuring in a red ball fixture in the Indian conditions. While he is aware of the fact that it will be quite a challenge, Archer just wants to stick to his role.

“I have never played red ball here. White ball was a different dynamic, so can’t really compare,” Archer said in a media interaction on Tuesday.

While he still hasn’t had a look at the Chepauk wicket, the pace ace just wants to focus on the job in hand. “We have had bowling meetings; we will have more. Whatever plans we come up with, we will go wholeheartedly,” Archer, who admires Jasprit Bumrah for his consistency, said.

Ben Stokes and Archer were rested for the Test series against Sri Lanka, but even during the break, he was busy training just to ensure he is ready for the India tour.

Some of the former cricketers have lashed out at the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) for resting and rotating players for the important tour. But Archer backed the ECB, saying: “Anyone, that criticises it has never spent a week in a bubble or months I should say. One golfer left after four days, we have been in here for almost a year now, I think (it is vital) to get in and out, because at the end of the day, humans are social people and especially, if you haven’t (had) a great game or if you are not feeling good with your cricket, then there is no escape no way to go.”

“I think the ECB has made a really great (decision by rotating players) people. I was away for six weeks, Jos (Buttler) is done after this game for a little bit, Sam (Curran) is gone, also they are making a priority, everyone gets time away so we can come back refreshed and ready to go…”

This is going to be a busy year and Archer believes it is important to monitor workload. “It is going to be a very long year. We’ve got few series coming up and body management will be essential if you want to play most of everything. Managing the body will be important.”

The first Test in Chennai will also mark Joe Root’s 100th Test and Archer lauded the team captain. “His leadership has been very assuring, not just for me but for every single player in the team. He is a great man manager and a great person as well, so it’s no surprise that this is his 100th Test. He probably has another 70 left in him,” Archer stated.

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...sting-and-rotating-policy/article33733205.ece
 
CHENNAI: Seeing is believing, England fast bowler Jofra Archer said on Tuesday when his reaction was sought on spectators being allowed at Chepauk for the second cricket Test against India, starting February 13.

Initially, the Tamil Nadu Cricket Association (TNCA), after consultation with the BCCI, had decided to conduct the first two Tests of the four-match series behind "closed doors", and it also had the backing of the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB).

However, with the latest government notification allowing 50 per cent spectators inside a sporting arena, the TNCA officially announced the decision that was on the cards. "Well, till it happens I won't believe it. Last eight months have been just as crazy and we have been made a mere promise (of fans returning) and something like that hasn't come off. So till I actually see the fans the walk in, I won't believe it," Archer said.

Amid the COVID-19 pandemic, international cricket started with England playing against the West Indies and Pakistan in back-to-back Test series last year followed by a white ball series against Australia at home. All the matches were held behind closed doors.

Earlier, TNCA secretary RS Ramaswamy issued a press release to confirm the move, which was on expected lines. "The first Test Match between India and England being held between 5th and 9th February 2021 will be played behind closed doors without spectators as a precautionary measure for COVID-19 situation," it stated in the release.

"In view of the Government announcement that 50 per cent occupancy would be allowed in stadia, Tamil Nadu Cricket Association will allow 50 per cent spectators for the 2nd Test to be held between 13th and 17th February 2021,"

https://www.newindianexpress.com/sp...crowd-being-allowed-for-2nd-test-2258626.html
 
"Fastest bowler; better than shoaib, lee, johnson trundling at 128kph"

Well if you dont use your intercostals and pivid effectively, you can be the strongest athlete but you wont bowl quick for long.

Anderson at nearly 40 is bowling quicker than him right now.
 
"Fastest bowler; better than shoaib, lee, johnson trundling at 128kph"

Well if you dont use your intercostals and pivid effectively, you can be the strongest athlete but you wont bowl quick for long.

Anderson at nearly 40 is bowling quicker than him right now.

Instead of using fancy jargon, maybe you should watch the match instead. He bowled brilliantly in the first innings and took the pitch out of the equation with his steep bounce.

The wickets of Rohit and Gill, Rohit in particular because it was a tremendous delivery, pushed India into the corner and set the tone for rest of the innings.

He also troubled Kohli a lot with the awkward length.

The Naseem vs Archer comparison thread looks more and more embarrassing with each passing day.

Archer is one of the top fast bowlers in the world. He has real presence and fear factor. The opposition lineups are always looking at him as a threat.

Naseem on the other hand is a joke. He never was and never will be a fraction of the bowler Archer is.
 
"Fastest bowler; better than shoaib, lee, johnson trundling at 128kph"

Well if you dont use your intercostals and pivid effectively, you can be the strongest athlete but you wont bowl quick for long.

Anderson at nearly 40 is bowling quicker than him right now.
But, but he’s the best all format fast bowler in the world according to our resident PP expert who is never wrong and always has the last laugh.
 
Instead of using fancy jargon, maybe you should watch the match instead. He bowled brilliantly in the first innings and took the pitch out of the equation with his steep bounce.

The wickets of Rohit and Gill, Rohit in particular because it was a tremendous delivery, pushed India into the corner and set the tone for rest of the innings.

He also troubled Kohli a lot with the awkward length.

The Naseem vs Archer comparison thread looks more and more embarrassing with each passing day.

Archer is one of the top fast bowlers in the world. He has real presence and fear factor. The opposition lineups are always looking at him as a threat.

Naseem on the other hand is a joke. He never was and never will be a fraction of the bowler Archer is.

Care to remind me what his pace has been like in the 2nd innings after bowling 20 odd overs in the first innings.
I always thought you had decent command over the english language but alas, I never knew you had comprehension issues.

Read the OP of that thread again once your BP is back to normal.
I only analysed their actions and method involved to get it to 90mph. I didn't give a verdict as to who is the better bowler.

I have always rated Archer"s athleticism and he definitely has his strengths.

But since you cant understand basic sports science despite being a so called doctor, then I cant reason with you on why i believe Archer cant sustain his pace with this action in the longer format.
 
Instead of using fancy jargon, maybe you should watch the match instead. He bowled brilliantly in the first innings and took the pitch out of the equation with his steep bounce.

The wickets of Rohit and Gill, Rohit in particular because it was a tremendous delivery, pushed India into the corner and set the tone for rest of the innings.

He also troubled Kohli a lot with the awkward length.

The Naseem vs Archer comparison thread looks more and more embarrassing with each passing day.

Archer is one of the top fast bowlers in the world. He has real presence and fear factor. The opposition lineups are always looking at him as a threat.

Naseem on the other hand is a joke. He never was and never will be a fraction of the bowler Archer is.

When he performs everywhere i will agree with you, as of this moment i wouldnt put him in the top 5 all format bowlers.

Hes had his good moments in test cricket and his bad. Same with in odis.

He hasnt set the world on fire, he has all the ingridents to be a top bowler, gotta wait and see how he pans out. Give him at least 3 years

And dont bring up the world cup. He hasnt done much after.

You call out the hype brigade but have been caught up in the same hype machine
 
When he performs everywhere i will agree with you, as of this moment i wouldnt put him in the top 5 all format bowlers.

Hes had his good moments in test cricket and his bad. Same with in odis.

He hasnt set the world on fire, he has all the ingridents to be a top bowler, gotta wait and see how he pans out. Give him at least 3 years

And dont bring up the world cup. He hasnt done much after.

You call out the hype brigade but have been caught up in the same hype machine

He had one brilliant Ashes series at home and then followed it up with terrible performances in New Zealand, South Africa and then at home against Pakistan. Last time I checked, he had played like one T20s though it may be more now.

Yet somehow he is still the best bowler in the world ahead of Cummins, Rabada, Bumrah, Shami, Boult etc...

Let’s not even mention his terrible attitude..
 
Top 3 fast bowlers in the world across Tests and ODIs.

1. Archer
2. Bumrah
3. Cummins

Purely in Tests, Cummins is number 1.
 
Poor stuff from Archer in the evening session. What more do you want as a fast bowler? 400+ lead short sharp spell - go flat out! Bowling In the 130s. Lazy lazy
 
Top 3 fast bowlers in the world across Tests and ODIs.

1. Archer
2. Bumrah
3. Cummins

Purely in Tests, Cummins is number 1.

Just to prove your point wrong - even someone like Starc is ahead of Archer. In Tests he averages 27 and has taken 250+ wickets. Archer averages in the 30s and that average has been going in one direction since the Ashes fluke at home. Starc bowls at a higher pace and has better stamina.

In ODIs there’s no comparison since Starc is an ATG and has performed in multiple world cups vs Archer’s one World Cup.

I will concede one thing - Archer is the best bouncer specialist in the world at the moment and just about pip’s Wagner to the title though Wagner has performed better than him recently.
 
[MENTION=152972]Pacy with wisdom[/MENTION]

This was your “analysis”.

I know their ages are different and it is probably a disservice to Naseem to be comparing him to a guy who is older and much more experienced.

However the point of comparison is that both of them are relatively fresh on the international scene, but are already box office draws, and are being billed as potential superstars.

Naseem box-office draw and potential superstar. :91:
 
Top 3 fast bowlers in the world across Tests and ODIs.

1. Archer
2. Bumrah
3. Cummins

Purely in Tests, Cummins is number 1.

Lol classic troll move. Sometimes you can be just as delusional as pakistani fans with ur hard *n for the brits.
 
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