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0.56% on the win predictior to a win? Greatest comeback in ODIS ever by Australia?

Yea. Definitely won against all odds. I know Maxie is capable of doing. They practically had one end open. That is where Cummins innings is crucial.
 
People talking about comebacks in the 2010 and 2021 T20 WCs semis against Pakistan

It was still possible they could win those games. There was some probability

At 90 for 7 in this match, it was literally IMPOSSIBLE for Australia to win. I still can't believe Maxwell has pulled it off. What a player
 
96 semifinal
99 twice against SA
03 against Eng
15 almost pulling one off against Nz
23 against Afg

Not even including the numerous bilaterals & tri nation matches over the years.
It's just bread & butter stuff for them.
 
like who would had expected a 200 after 7 wickets down?
 
Simply amazing.

Aussies were at 91/7. They won it from there.
 
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For me it was one of the best innings that i witnessed.

But if it was some other team, i don't think he could have done it. Afghanistan bowled pretty poorly. Given he was having cramps, they still kept on bowling in his arc instead of bowling wide yorkers.

But the way he was tonking Afghani bowlers at the end with no footwork was simply amazing. I have never seen anything like this before.

Players generate a lot of strength from their lower body but the way he hit those boundaries in the end with no use of his feet just goes to show the pure upper body strength he has.
 
i remember watching that Razzaq innings, and than now this.

The biggest advantage Maxwell had was his arsenal of shots. He was able to hit reverse. All his shots after teh 100 came with no foot work.
 
Major said:
i remember watching that Razzaq innings, and than now this.

The biggest advantage Maxwell had was his arsenal of shots. He was able to hit reverse. All his shots after teh 100 came with no foot work.
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Abdul Razzaq's innings happened in a JAMODI game.

This is a World Cup game. Must more impactful.
 
Major said:
i remember watching that Razzaq innings, and than now this.

The biggest advantage Maxwell had was his arsenal of shots. He was able to hit reverse. All his shots after teh 100 came with no foot work.
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Razzaq was better. Bigger ground, slower pitch, better fielders and in UAE that innings is almost impossible.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Razzaq was better. Bigger ground, slower pitch, better fielders and in UAE that innings is almost impossible.
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na man how can that be better?

In this game, 200 was needed and australia at 7 down no one expected this score to be chased. The probability of winning was 0.56. Than the cramps, the 2 drop catches, the missing lbw.

Plus, this was amongst the highest scores chased at wankhede in the world cup.

Its a freak of an innings. Gibbs and Razzaq's are up there but it can never come close man to this.

Plus, he got a 200.
 
Major said:
na man how can that be better?

In this game, 200 was needed and australia at 7 down no one expected this score to be chased. The probability of winning was 0.56. Than the cramps, the 2 drop catches, the missing lbw.

Plus, this was amongst the highest scores chased at wankhede in the world cup.

Its a freak of an innings. Gibbs and Razzaq's are up there but it can never come close man to this.

Plus, he got a 200.
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He was dropped twice aswell so I think that takes a bit off
 
Anyone who has seen the IPL long enough won't be shocked by this. There are certain grounds you can do the impossible. Wankhede is a magic ground where so many magical things have happened.

Two samples. So many such things have happened at Wankhede. Pollard alone has so many blitzkreig innings here. Mumbai Indians needed to chase 190 in 14.5 overs to qualify for play offs. They did in 14.4 overs. Cory Anderson 95 in 44 balls

This one chasing 226. Chennai CSK was 100/1 in 6 overs. Out of 100 Suresh Raina 87 in 25 balls. Still considered on of the ATG knock in IPL. HE got run out then they lost
 
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With every praise granted, Maxi was massively supported by the inexperience & panic (from fear of losing) of the Afghans.

Afghans have better attack than many other teams in this WC for the playing conditions, but any established Test experienced side, I don’t think it would have been possible. Afghans were trying to restrict Australia scoring, thinking asking rate would choke them, which is near impossible when Maxwell is in middle, even tougher on that ground under dew. More experienced teams would have gone for wicket - dry out Cummins and instigate a desperate shot.
 
MMHS said:
With every praise granted, Maxi was massively supported by the inexperience & panic (from fear of losing) of the Afghans.

Afghans have better attack than many other teams in this WC for the playing conditions, but any established Test experienced side, I don’t think it would have been possible. Afghans were trying to restrict Australia scoring, thinking asking rate would choke them, which is near impossible when Maxwell is in middle, even tougher on that ground under dew. More experienced teams would have gone for wicket - dry out Cummins and instigate a desperate shot.
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Maxwell IPL experience is a massive factor. There was a period M&M were so famou for PKXI. Maxwell & Miller. If MAxwell doesn't get you Miller will get you. They had that kind of an aura. Then with Kohli and ABDV he pulled off some magical stuff for RCB. They know how to pull off impossible wins. Pollard is very unlucky we did not have a world cup in India when he was in prime. He is another impossible human being. This is why you don't drop catches off these guys.
 
But Afghanistan should seriously condemn themselves for not being able to make cummins play enough. Almost 70% of the balls he faced were wide outside off stump. He simply let it go. That is where they lost. Even with drop they should have exploited the open end. Even for cumminas they had deep fielders
 
Wankhede you survive 15 overs, you can hit the ball out of the park at will.

Afghanistan showed immaturity. Catches dropped. Poor bowling.
 
soo funny looking at Indians now coming in and talking about an innings that they never saw. Infact no one ever saw. Plz dont insult maxwell like that.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Anyone who has seen the IPL long enough won't be shocked by this. There are certain grounds you can do the impossible. Wankhede is a magic ground where so many magical things have happened.

Two samples. So many such things have happened at Wankhede. Pollard alone has so many blitzkreig innings here. Mumbai Indians needed to chase 190 in 14.5 overs to qualify for play offs. They did in 14.4 overs. Cory Anderson 95 in 44 balls


This one chasing 226. Chennai CSK was 100/1 in 6 overs. Out of 100 Suresh Raina 87 in 25 balls. Still considered on of the ATG knock in IPL. HE got run out then they lost
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With due respect, dont compare IPL with a pressure cooker WC game.
 
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pakistani pride said:
With due respect, dont compare IPL with a pressure cooker WC game.
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This is not pressure cooker game lol They were going to finish 2nd or 3rd anyway :) By the way IPL is a high pressure tournament especially when playoff is on the line. Winne gets 20 crores.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Anyone who has seen the IPL long enough won't be shocked by this. There are certain grounds you can do the impossible. Wankhede is a magic ground where so many magical things have happened.

Two samples. So many such things have happened at Wankhede. Pollard alone has so many blitzkreig innings here. Mumbai Indians needed to chase 190 in 14.5 overs to qualify for play offs. They did in 14.4 overs. Cory Anderson 95 in 44 balls


This one chasing 226. Chennai CSK was 100/1 in 6 overs. Out of 100 Suresh Raina 87 in 25 balls. Still considered on of the ATG knock in IPL. HE got run out then they lost
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You guys need to get IPL into everything.

This was the real deal man. No need to bring low quality IPL hit and giggle knocks in.
 
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Major said:
soo funny looking at Indians now coming in and talking about an innings that they never saw. Infact no one ever saw. Plz dont insult maxwell like that.
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I spoke to my father in Pakistan after the game. He also compared it to Kapil Dev. Said he was following that knock on the radio.

People will naturally compare it to those they are familiar with.

Pakistanis of modern era are comparing it with Razzaq.

No big deal.

But comparing it with IPL knocks is embarrassing lol
 
DeadlyVenom said:
You guys need to get IPL into everything.

This was the real deal man. No need to bring low quality IPL hit and giggle knocks in.
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FUnny thing in match, when Afghanistan were winning, we were seeing all those post about Ajay Jadeja (who was dancing in the dressing room and trying to disturb the australian batters), now Ajay Jadeja fans no where to be scene.
 
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Major said:
FUnny thing in match, when Afghanistan were winning, we were seeing all those post about Ajay Jadeja (who was dancing in the dressing room and trying to disturb the australian batters), now Ajay Jadeja fans no where to be scene.
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Ajay fans were cheering then coz it was against Pakistan and reminded people of Waqar Ajay. No one praised Ajay when they won against England.
 
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Major said:
soo funny looking at Indians now coming in and talking about an innings that they never saw. Infact no one ever saw. Plz dont insult maxwell like that.
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So funny that a Pakistani is trying to play down an innings thats in official score cards and was reported widely in media.
 
JaDed said:
Lol IPL is the reason you guys lost to Afghans and Aus might beat us.
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Australia beat India in India even before IPL.

2004 Test series win and 2007 ODI series win.

They also won 2006 CT (which was in India).
 
sweep_shot said:
Australia beat India in India even before IPL.

2004 Test series win and 2007 ODI series win.
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Australian players have distinct advantage over some of the sides that don't get exposed to Indian grounds regularly especially under lights. Not just them guys like QDK massively benefitted from it. Some of the grounds are like their home grounds.
 
sweep_shot said:
Australia beat India in India even before IPL.

2004 Test series win and 2007 ODI series win.

They also won 2006 CT (which was in India).
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This Aus team isn’t equivalent to that team, not even close.
 
I think,!an ODI innings should never be compared to a T20 game.

For example - even no Indian has mention one almost unreal innings in a T20 WC KO like game by Kohli - the Mohali one in 2016 against the Aussies.

That’s the difference between proper cricket, where you need to build the innings & few overs fun where every rule is against batsman, and bowlers are trying to produce. “Dot”, instead of taking wickets.
 
I think that’s the problem with being a minnow. Absolute insane knock by Maxwell.

However Afghanistan has played better than all Asian sides except India. Not minnow standard at all. Yet when Australia are playing afganistan they’re always going to believe they can pull off a miracle like this against a minnow. And if you believe it, can be achieved. You see it a few times these ‘minnows’ lose matches they deserve to win because the opposing team thinks they can pull off miracles against minnows.

If Afghanistan keep playing as. Well as this, they’ll lose that minnow tag and these sort of defeats will be something of the past.
 
ads101 said:
I think that’s the problem with being a minnow. Absolute insane knock by Maxwell.

However Afghanistan has played better than all Asian sides except India. Not minnow standard at all. Yet when Australia are playing afganistan they’re always going to believe they can pull off a miracle like this against a minnow. And if you believe it, can be achieved. You see it a few times these ‘minnows’ lose matches they deserve to win because the opposing team thinks they can pull off miracles against minnows.

If Afghanistan keep playing as. Well as this, they’ll lose that minnow tag and these sort of defeats will be something of the past.
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Excellent point but trust me - it’s the opposite. We had experienced that in past.

Today AFGs lost because Aussies didn’t consider them as minnows or just walk overs - then they indeed would have lost the game.

You see, most of the upsets happen when the underdogs bat first - you put something on the board, then some good balls, a little luck and some laps of concentration…. You get a upset.

AFGs have played well enough in this WC, for that Aussies knew that they could loose this game - they were extremely determined & careful. Had they considered AFGs a minnow or just a pushover, they would have lost today - trust me.
 
Four balls before the match ended today, this is a comment that was posted in Cricinfo commentary.

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Why our Indian friends are dying to prove that Maxwell's innings is only as big as Kapil's innings?

Here are some huge differences.....between the two innings;

1. Kapil was batting in first inngins - not chasing a large total in 50 overs.
2. Kapil had 60 overs to bat.
3. Maxwell was having severe cramps.
4. Zimbabwe was playing only their 5th ODI match....after making thier debut in the same 1983 WC.
5. Zimbabwe in their first 10 years (June 9, 1983 to June 9, 1993) played 29 ODIs and they lost 27 and won only two with W/L ratio of 0.074. Afghanistan on the other hand, played 111 ODIs, winning 57 and losing 50 of them in their first 10 years (19 Apr 2009 to 19 Apr 2019). That is a win/loss ratio of 1.14.

Point is ... when Kapil scored 175 in 60 overs, Zimabawe was one of the weakest team and stayed that way for the longest time. Maxwell scored his 201 runs in 50 overs against one of the strongest spin bowling attack in the world currently.

There is absolutely no copmarison!
 
W63L35 said:
Four balls before the match ended today, this is a comment that was posted in Cricinfo commentary.

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Why our Indian friends are dying to prove that Maxwell's innings is only as big as Kapil's innings?

Here are some huge differences.....between the two innings;

1. Kapil was batting in first inngins - not chasing a large total in 50 overs.
2. Kapil had 60 overs to bat.
3. Maxwell was having severe cramps.
4. Zimbabwe was playing only their 5th ODI match....after making thier debut in the same 1983 WC.
5. Zimbabwe in their first 10 years (June 9, 1983 to June 9, 1993) played 29 ODIs and they lost 27 and won only two with W/L ratio of 0.074. Afghanistan on the other hand, played 111 ODIs, winning 57 and losing 50 of them in their first 10 years (19 Apr 2009 to 19 Apr 2019). That is a win/loss ratio of 1.14.

Point is ... when Kapil scored 175 in 60 overs, Zimabawe was one of the weakest team and stayed that way for the longest time. Maxwell scored his 201 runs in 50 overs against one of the strongest spin bowling attack in the world currently.

There is absolutely no copmarison!
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Just saying that Zimbabwe team did beat Australia in that tournament as well and many of their games were close having said that this is the best ODI inning as already said by Sachin as well.
 
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W63L35 said:
Four balls before the match ended today, this is a comment that was posted in Cricinfo commentary.

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Why our Indian friends are dying to prove that Maxwell's innings is only as big as Kapil's innings?

Here are some huge differences.....between the two innings;

1. Kapil was batting in first inngins - not chasing a large total in 50 overs.
2. Kapil had 60 overs to bat.
3. Maxwell was having severe cramps.
4. Zimbabwe was playing only their 5th ODI match....after making thier debut in the same 1983 WC.
5. Zimbabwe in their first 10 years (June 9, 1983 to June 9, 1993) played 29 ODIs and they lost 27 and won only two with W/L ratio of 0.074. Afghanistan on the other hand, played 111 ODIs, winning 57 and losing 50 of them in their first 10 years (19 Apr 2009 to 19 Apr 2019). That is a win/loss ratio of 1.14.

Point is ... when Kapil scored 175 in 60 overs, Zimabawe was one of the weakest team and stayed that way for the longest time. Maxwell scored his 201 runs in 50 overs against one of the strongest spin bowling attack in the world currently.

There is absolutely no copmarison!
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bro many of them have been try to do the same comparison here aswell.

Just desperation. Even though we saw two 200+ scores during the 2015 world cup.

Funny thing is, you asked them to show us a video of the innings and they become quiet. Like most of them didnt even saw the game, but because its the only innings that was near to 200 in a world cup, they count it.
 
JaDed said:
Just saying that Zim team did beat Aus in that tournament as well and many of their games were close having said that this is the best ODI inning as already said by Sachin as well.
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As I said, for the next 10 years.... that Aus win remained their only one of the two wins .... and 27 losses.
Infact, in first 37 ODIs the record was 2 wins and 33 losses.

That win against Australia was also a very close one.... only by 13 runs but since that win, Aus has lost only 2 more ODI and winning 29 of them against Zimbabwe.
 
ads101 said:
I think that’s the problem with being a minnow. Absolute insane knock by Maxwell.

However Afghanistan has played better than all Asian sides except India. Not minnow standard at all. Yet when Australia are playing afganistan they’re always going to believe they can pull off a miracle like this against a minnow. And if you believe it, can be achieved. You see it a few times these ‘minnows’ lose matches they deserve to win because the opposing team thinks they can pull off miracles against minnows.

If Afghanistan keep playing as. Well as this, they’ll lose that minnow tag and these sort of defeats will be something of the past.
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He had nothing to lose today with Cummins at other end. He tooks his chances
W63L35 said:
Four balls before the match ended today, this is a comment that was posted in Cricinfo commentary.

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Why our Indian friends are dying to prove that Maxwell's innings is only as big as Kapil's innings?

Here are some huge differences.....between the two innings;

1. Kapil was batting in first inngins - not chasing a large total in 50 overs.
2. Kapil had 60 overs to bat.
3. Maxwell was having severe cramps.
4. Zimbabwe was playing only their 5th ODI match....after making thier debut in the same 1983 WC.
5. Zimbabwe in their first 10 years (June 9, 1983 to June 9, 1993) played 29 ODIs and they lost 27 and won only two with W/L ratio of 0.074. Afghanistan on the other hand, played 111 ODIs, winning 57 and losing 50 of them in their first 10 years (19 Apr 2009 to 19 Apr 2019). That is a win/loss ratio of 1.14.

Point is ... when Kapil scored 175 in 60 overs, Zimabawe was one of the weakest team and stayed that way for the longest time. Maxwell scored his 201 runs in 50 overs against one of the strongest spin bowling attack in the world currently.

There is absolutely no copmarison!
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you are comparing a 175 in 1983 with a 201 in 2023? Only recently Kishan scored 201 at a faster rate. From attitude, ball, approach, exposure everything was different. Every tom, dick and harry smashed 100s in known high scoring venues. Reason comparison is there because match was dead and buried for India with all the top order blown away. 78/7 at one point. What does it matter if he bats first or second. It is way harder in that era than now. Maxwell himself has played so many crazy knocks on Indian grounds. Unlike this match which Australia could afford to lose and still qualify, India would not have reached semis had they lost that match
 
Kapil's innings is glorified only because India went on to win 1983 World Cup a days later.... and that is fair enough... but if India had lost in the semi-final, nobody would have remembered that Kapil innings .... just like we do not remember Imran Nazir's phnominal 162 against the same opposition (zimbabwe) in 2007 World Cup in West Indies.... a few hours before Bob Woolmer died.
 
Major said:
again video or didnt happen. Come on show us, I wait.
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Again it doesn't matter what you say. You can troll on PP.

The match the innings the scoreboard is part of cricket history. Pakistanis cannot change it.
 
Maxell played the innings of his life, what was remarkable is when he got injured and can barely move his feet, he was still timing the ball and hitting big shots without feet movement

Also big respect to cummins he hung in their trusted maxwell to do the job and did not throw his wicket away
 
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No. I replied to the Indian fans who were comparing those two knocks as the same.
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Somehow pakistanis need to bring down the significance of Kapil Devs knock as they don't have one like that in a WC.
 
W63L35 said:
Kapil's innings is glorified only because India went on to win 1983 World Cup a days later.... and that is fair enough... but if India had lost in the semi-final, nobody would have remembered that Kapil innings .... just like we do not remember Imran Nazir's phnominal 162 against the same opposition (zimbabwe) in 2007 World Cup in West Indies.... a few hours before Bob Woolmer died.
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Were pakistan 5 for 17 or 7 for 78 during that match?
 
Kianig89 said:
AFGHANISTAN are a minnow if anyone was of some other opinion brought down to earth Kudos Australia
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Yeah this accomplishment would have meant more if it was against a top team.

The weaker teams tend to have games like this when they lose despite being in a strong position to win.
 
saqib.rai said:
People talking about comebacks in the 2010 and 2021 T20 WCs semis against Pakistan

It was still possible they could win those games. There was some probability

At 90 for 7 in this match, it was literally IMPOSSIBLE for Australia to win. I still can't believe Maxwell has pulled it off. What a player
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This is Afghanistan fgs.. no disrespect to them as they have done well this tournament but you expect a top team to get out of jail against lower level teams. Luke Ronchi did something similar against SL before the 2015 WC but no one hyped it up because it was SL.
 
Major said:
If i am going to label something as the best, i need to have atleast seen that first.

When a poster never saw something happened, how can he claim it to be the second best? Oh i see, because its the only indian innings that went to such a score in a world cup thus defend it blindly without even watching that innings.
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So by that logic the only players you rate are the ones you’ve seen? Where do you put Bradman in your list of batsmen?

It would be even more interesting if I apply your reasoning to other aspects of life, not just sports. Therefore Napoleon or Caesar must not rate as military commanders as compared to General Rommel?
 
W63L35 said:
Kapil's innings is glorified only because India went on to win 1983 World Cup a days later.... and that is fair enough... but if India had lost in the semi-final, nobody would have remembered that Kapil innings .... just like we do not remember Imran Nazir's phnominal 162 against the same opposition (zimbabwe) in 2007 World Cup in West Indies.... a few hours before Bob Woolmer died.
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It’s a good point you raise. However it is natural, inevitable, understandable and a practice that is commonly followed in other parts of crickets and life itself.

People appreciate and remember performances leading to grand victory. In this case (Kapil) the World Cup.

In day to day life, man of the match awards in cricket are given to players from winning teams. And to extend the to every part of life, more weight is given to performance when you win, be it a sporting event or an academic accomplishment. For example more often (but not always) legends and movies are built out of the lives of Nobel prize winners, not their contemporaries who may have been asap complained but didn’t win the big one.

There are exceptions to the above of course.

But it is perfectly understandable why Kapil’s innings is rated so highly.
 
This is the kind of performance which kids teenagers dream off thinking their favorite player will win them the game from abyss. Extraordinary from Maxwell but childish from AFG
 
Kapil’s innings was great. In my opinion, this was far greater considering that Maxwell was chasing and did it single handedly against a better attack. @Major is also correct that not having any video of Kapil’s innings naturally makes it less likely to be rated amongst the best. Wilt scored 100 points in a game, but there’s no video, and almost no basketball fan would put it up there as one of the top individual performances.

I would probably still rate Stokes 2019 WC Final innings higher simply because it was the biggest of stages and he put the team on his back and took them to their first World Cup. With a match against Bangladesh coming up and Australia having a high NRR, Australia was all but set to make it to the semi finals anyway. Now if Maxwell’s innings had taken place during a knockout round it would without a doubt be the greatest.

James Faulkner has also played a few crazy innings where the team collapsed around him and he carried them home. The 2nd ODI of England’s Tour of Australia in 2014 comes to mind as well as James Faulkner taking out India in Mohali in 2014.
 
Naseem shah: I am Afghanistan's biggest nightmare.

Glenn maxwell: Hold my 200 bro
 
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