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Excellent innings by Haris Sohail today..
He is coming back to his own self..
We'll need him in the ICC champions trophy..
At least he can play swing better than Hafeez and he plays at a good strike rate too..
 
Hafeez, Kami and Shehzad are completely ruining the team balance. The ideal Pakistan side at the moment would have been:


Sharjeel (failure to report, doesn't deserve a life ban, corrupt Sethi's ego is in the way)
Fakhar (has looked good in the PC, ODI are his main format and he is primarily an opener not a number 6)
Babar
Haris
Sarfaraz
Malik (too low a position, but the only batsman in the middle order who can play at 150 SR when required)
 
Sports_Psychologist said:
Excellent innings by Haris Sohail today..
He is coming back to his own self..
We'll need him in the ICC champions trophy..
At least he can play swing better than Hafeez and he plays at a good strike rate too..
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good but not great. Fawad Alam's 100 was the best followed by Umar Amin's 100.
 
Should be back if he fulfils Int fitness criteria.

A superfit haris can score 60 to 100 runs.

An average fit haris will score 20 to 45 runs.


If he scores well in fitness tests than give him a recall.
 
Really had high hopes from him when he debuted. Good to see him making a good score. Pakistan needs a player like him in middle order
 
Guys, I live in England, was it a fluky innings or a very good innings?
 
Fawad's knock was a better one against Balochistan, 130 (117) while chasing...
 
Hamza_ said:
We should drop Shehzad and Kami.

Get Hafeez to open with Umar Amin and slot Haris Sohail at #4, Shoaib Malik at #5.
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Even in that scenario I'd rather pick a person like Hammad/yamin / Talat who can add more firepower.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Even in that scenario I'd rather pick a person like Hammad/yamin / Talat who can add more firepower.
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We should drop Junaid and select Yamin, Open the bowling with him.

Amin
Hafeez :facepalm:
Babar
Haris
Shoaib
Sarfraz
Yamin
Imad
Shadab
Amir
Hasan

Malik, Haris, Amin and Hafeez can all bowl around 15-20 overs together.
 
Hamza_ said:
We should drop Junaid and select Yamin, Open the bowling with him.

Amin
Hafeez :facepalm:
Babar
Haris
Shoaib
Sarfraz
Yamin
Imad
Shadab
Amir
Hasan

Malik, Haris, Amin and Hafeez can all bowl around 15-20 overs together.
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Yamin is a batsmen first, he shouldn't be relied to bowl as a front line seamer imo
 
Hamza_ said:
He is one of the few who are sharp with new ball. Only 3-5 overs and that's it
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I think Amir and Sohail will be better options, if the pitch isn't skidding most international openers will butcher yamin upfront, especially with the field up. He needs to bowl a few overs on the middle
 
Pitch appears to be a bit of a road. If Khurram Manzoor is tonking Sohail Khan in his first spell, either Khan decided not to bowl today or the pitch is just made to score runs.

That said, run a ball is about right at #3. It took 63 balls to reach his 50 but then only 46 more to reach his 100, and after his 50 his strike rate was 126.
 
3 very good innings by 3 very good lefti & still I can see India chocking PAK middle order with Jaddu & UV - those 20 overs of left-arm dart 'll be fun to watch against Umar, MoHa, Azhar, Shehzad, Babar & KAkmal (any 4 that's picked).

Ironically, there are 2 spots open as well - opener & No. 4; where Amin & Haris/Fawad should fit in perfectly. I prefer Haris because of his arry of shots & capability to clear boundary, even against good ball. Besides, Fawad bats in Misbah mood - unless he stays for 50+ balls, he'll win it for fielding side. Babar, Haris & Malik are 3 middle order, who can reach 80+ SR by 25th ball, sometimes even earlier & that's outside PP. But, Fawad is a fantastic fielder & runner, therefore really would have liked to pick him - unfortunately Malik better in identical role, that's taking singles almost at will & push hard to convert extra runs while running; on top of that he can clear boundary. Amin actually can be better than Sharjeel for his timing, placement & off-side game - in full flow it's difficult to restrict such players in PP. Besides, he is extremely fit, probably one of 2/3 top fielders in PAK, can bowl a bit seem up & lefti, who can clear ropes using feet against spinner.

Enough of day dreaming - Inzi'll make PAK to play with Azhar, MoHa, Babar, Malik, Sarfu, Umar in top 6 & as I said, it'll be fun to watch PAK against Jaddu, UV, Mahraj, Pathirana ....................
 
waleed88 said:
Fawad's knock was a better one against Balochistan, 130 (117) while chasing...
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he killed the chase with more dot balls early into his innings...and was an ugly inns, trying to muscle the ball when he wanted to up the run-rate and try to win the match after facing nearly 100 balls which was usual from him... looks the same old stuff...he needs to learn how to time his shots...
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
I think Amir and Sohail will be better options, if the pitch isn't skidding most international openers will butcher yamin upfront, especially with the field up. He needs to bowl a few overs on the middle
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Sohail may give away few runs in the field, On batting perspective Yamin is ahead of Sohail, Age is also in Yamin's favor.

Yamin should be picked ahead of Sohail. However Sohail is a decent option.
 
zn426 said:
Pitch appears to be a bit of a road. If Khurram Manzoor is tonking Sohail Khan in his first spell, either Khan decided not to bowl today or the pitch is just made to score runs.

That said, run a ball is about right at #3. It took 63 balls to reach his 50 but then only 46 more to reach his 100, and after his 50 his strike rate was 126.
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give credit to khurram, sohail khan is not waqar younis, that is why he is not in the good books of MICKEY may be...
 
Hamza_ said:
We should drop Junaid and select Yamin, Open the bowling with him.

Amin
Hafeez :facepalm:
Babar
Haris
Shoaib
Sarfraz
Yamin
Imad
Shadab
Amir
Hasan

Malik, Haris, Amin and Hafeez can all bowl around 15-20 overs together.
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Very good side.

I would actually add Sohail Khan instead of Yamin since he is the better bowler. Yamin can be nippy and decent up front but Sohail has the potential to rip through sides.

And his batting, while not as good as Yamin's, is actually very suited to the lower order hitting. In fact, with Sharjeel gone, I would say he is the best six-hitter / slogger in the country right now. By that I mean someone in the mould of Afridi/Razzaq who can hit from ball one.
 
I'm still skeptical of Umar Amin. He has scored runs but strikes me as the type of player who can't succeed against top quality bowling attacks in testing conditions. His stats are evident of this and he didn't do anything in the last CT either.

Haris and Aamer Yamin though need to be selected Especially Yameen who can serve as the medium pacer/ hitter we desperately need. Shehzad and Akmal have been disappointing but they probably won't get axed.

Here's what I think the squad should be:

- Sarfraz
- Babar
- Malik
- Hafeez
- Amir
- Wahab
- Hasan Ali
- Shadab
- Imad
- Asghar
- Junaid
- Haris Sohail
- Aamir Yameen
- Kami
- Shehzad/ Fakhar Zaman
 
Best team we can field for the CT right now would be:

1. Kamran Akmal
2. M. Hafeez
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Shoaib Malik
6. Sarfraz Ahmed
7. Aamir Yameen
8. Shadab Khan
9. M. Amir
10. Wahab Riaz
11. Hasan Ali
 
Not sure how will he fit in the middle order which already has Babar at 3, Malik at 4, and Sarfraz at 5.

Both Malik and Sarfraz have no utility below 5.

The only option is to open with Babar and bring Harris at #3, Sarfraz at #4, and Malik at #5.

Since, Hafeez is undroppable, he can move back to opening with Babar. This will solve opening problem as well.
 
Sad to see poor guy missed three years of cricket due to Misbah.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
he killed the chase with more dot balls early into his innings...and was an ugly inns, trying to muscle the ball when he wanted to up the run-rate and try to win the match after facing nearly 100 balls which was usual from him... looks the same old stuff...he needs to learn how to time his shots...
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If Babar does that, he is saving up for something special. It happened in all 4 of his centuries.

The chase was not more than 6 runs per over. It was a par score on Pakistani pitches, and Fawad scored much quicker than the required rate..
 
I think Pakistans one day batting can be good.

guys like amin and haris are very good. We need to get rid of hafeez , shehzad and kami as soon as possible.

I hope after six months we have an odi batting lineup like this

Amin
sarfraz
babar
haris
shoaib.
Yamin
imad
Shadab
Amir
Hasan
Another quick.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Not sure how will he fit in the middle order which already has Babar at 3, Malik at 4, and Sarfraz at 5.

Both Malik and Sarfraz have no utility below 5.

The only option is to open with Babar and bring Harris at #3, Sarfraz at #4, and Malik at #5.

Since, Hafeez is undroppable, he can move back to opening with Babar. This will solve opening problem as well.
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No.

Drop Kamran and move Hafeez to opener.

Haris slots in at no.4. Him and Babar can form a world class right left combo. I have been waiting 2 years for this. These 2 are our Inzamam and Yousuf.
 
waleed88 said:
If Babar does that, he is saving up for something special. It happened in all 4 of his centuries.

The chase was not more than 6 runs per over. It was a par score on Pakistani pitches, and Fawad scored much quicker than the required rate..
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That is because Babar is being given confidence at this point as he is a youngster trying to establish himself. Fawad on the other hand is a seasoned player with loads of domestic and international experience.
 
Pete Rose said:
A bit premature
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It really isn't. Kamran was a flop. Hafeez did ok so let him have his opener slot.

That leaves the no.4 spot vacant. I don't see anyone else with stats and performance Haris has. He is automatic choice. He has delivered in a world cup. Its like a world class player having a long injury lay off. He may have been away for a while but he is still world class. Like Amir.
 
Madplayer said:
That is because Babar is being given confidence at this point as he is a youngster trying to establish himself. Fawad on the other hand is a seasoned player with loads of domestic and international experience.
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Which means he should play with a strike rate of 300 while chasing only 280?
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
It really isn't. Kamran was a flop. Hafeez did ok so let him have his opener slot.

That leaves the no.4 spot vacant. I don't see anyone else with stats and performance Haris has. He is automatic choice. He has delivered in a world cup. Its like a world class player having a long injury lay off. He may have been away for a while but he is still world class. Like Amir.
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Kamran shouldnt go for CT either way
Haris just scored his first List A century today - no matter how much we spin this, it reflects his List A pedigree (either not good enough or not fit enough to score a century till today): he may be really good, but none of it is borne by the "stats and performance" you refer to. He has delivered nothing in the world cup: its the malik argument all over again - top of the garbage heap.
Aamir is world class only on PP.
 
Syed1 said:
Hafeez, Kami and Shehzad are completely ruining the team balance. The ideal Pakistan side at the moment would have been:


Sharjeel (failure to report, doesn't deserve a life ban, corrupt Sethi's ego is in the way)
Fakhar (has looked good in the PC, ODI are his main format and he is primarily an opener not a number 6)
Babar
Haris
Sarfaraz
Malik (too low a position, but the only batsman in the middle order who can play at 150 SR when required)
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This would be my batting order too, if all of them are fit and available. If Sharjeel doesn't get let off, I'd have Shehzad in there because at least he's 25 and has centuries in South Africa and New Zealand. Hafeez would be the backup opener in that case.

Who's the better batsman out of Shadab and Imad? The latter has proven his credentials but Shadab is the better bowler, I feel. I want us to play four pacers against India and Sri Lanka.
 
He is a must for the #4 position in both Tests and ODIs. It was only a matter of him getting some games and runs under his belt. Not needed in T20Is.
 
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We need him back at #4 right now, he is an important member of the team. Can give a few decent overs with the ball too.
 
Shouldn't be fast tracked into the team and needs to play the full domestic season. Mohammad 'Better than Wasim Akram' Amir was brought in too quickly and we all know what happened afterwards so hoping that PCB have learnt their lesson now.
 
This guy is a MUST at no. 4 in Tests and ODI's.
 
One of the unluckiest players ever - he should have been PAK's No. 4 & 1st name outside Captain in team sheet from March 31, 2011 - it's more than 6 years ago & by now, he should have at least equal number of ODI runs that combined YK, Shezad, Azhar & Asad has scored in that period.

Anyway, I think, after 2019 WC, he'll get his chance - for the time being, Kamran, MoHa & Azhar is likely to play one more WC in Inzi's credit.
 
CricFan2012 said:
what did misbah do?

And hows his fitness? I live in Canada
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batted him at like 7 when he was first picked for last Caribbean tour even though he was more of a middle order batsman and then dumped him after that series and brought back the likes of SHafiq.
 
MMHS said:
One of the unluckiest players ever - he should have been PAK's No. 4 & 1st name outside Captain in team sheet from March 31, 2011 - it's more than 6 years ago & by now, he should have at least equal number of ODI runs that combined YK, Shezad, Azhar & Asad has scored in that period.

Anyway, I think, after 2019 WC, he'll get his chance - for the time being, Kamran, MoHa & Azhar is likely to play one more WC in Inzi's credit.
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It's not just him. I'm pretty sure Baber Azam missed a lot of time before making into the team despite he was one of the best List A players in the country with average close to 60.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Left right combo of babar and haris will be deadly.
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Flat_Track_Bully said:
I have dreamt of Sharjeel, Babar and Haris in the top order.
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Flat_Track_Bully said:
No.

Drop Kamran and move Hafeez to opener.

Haris slots in at no.4. Him and Babar can form a world class right left combo. I have been waiting 2 years for this. These 2 are our Inzamam and Yousuf.
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Flat_Track_Bully said:
It really isn't. Kamran was a flop. Hafeez did ok so let him have his opener slot.

That leaves the no.4 spot vacant. I don't see anyone else with stats and performance Haris has. He is automatic choice. He has delivered in a world cup. Its like a world class player having a long injury lay off. He may have been away for a while but he is still world class. Like Amir.
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+1234
well said.

Haris is a world class player and should be drafted back once he is fit. He has played grade 2 ,psl, u23 and now Pakistan cup. enough match practice. He is match fit bring him back.

Also I will add that I have not missed Haris' batting in a televised match and hardly have seen him in trouble against swing, seam and pace. We need a world class player like Haris in the side for CT.

By now he would have been ruling test cricket but thanks to some blunders since 2011 he hasnt made his debut yet.
 
Syed1 said:
Hafeez, Kami and Shehzad are completely ruining the team balance. The ideal Pakistan side at the moment would have been:


Sharjeel (failure to report, doesn't deserve a life ban, corrupt Sethi's ego is in the way)
Fakhar (has looked good in the PC, ODI are his main format and he is primarily an opener not a number 6)
Babar
Haris
Sarfaraz
Malik (too low a position, but the only batsman in the middle order who can play at 150 SR when required)
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Wow. Sharjeel doesn't deserve a life ban for not reporting? I think it was clear to all and sundry that the ICC ACU needs to be reported to in case of any suspicious activities/approaches which Sharjeel did not do ( apparently). If this is proved then he is as guilty as the rest and needs to be kicked out. If you notice dressing room photos, there are stickers all over with the ACU number for anyhing suspicious.
 
I always felt Haris Sohail was a brilliant middle order prospect. He could manouvre the field at choice while not being a big hiiter towards the end. Scoring a 50 every 3 innings in Intl cricket is no mean feat. I think he will make it to the 15 if the team hasnt been announced yet. If it has, he should be on the standby list for any injuries.
 
MRSN said:
batted him at like 7 when he was first picked for last Caribbean tour even though he was more of a middle order batsman and then dumped him after that series and brought back the likes of SHafiq.
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Misbah is one of biggest culprists in our pathetic ODI Display till date. Had a special love for passengers and either the team won or lost, He was the so called lone standing warrior.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Should be back if he fulfils Int fitness criteria.

A superfit haris can score 60 to 100 runs.

An average fit haris will score 20 to 45 runs.


If he scores well in fitness tests than give him a recall.
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Fitness criteria is just rubbish!!!!Kamran does not even look match fit still he got selected
 
These cups are nothing, just for show. If favorable players played well they can easily being selected if not there is always experience excuse.
 
Hamza_ said:
Misbah is one of biggest culprists in our pathetic ODI Display till date. Had a special love for passengers and either the team won or lost, He was the so called lone standing warrior.
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He had kept freaking abdul rehman in the LOI side for such a long time :)) it wasnt even funny.
 
Madplayer said:
He had kept freaking abdul rehman in the LOI side for such a long time :)) it wasnt even funny.
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There were many such passenger type players. He even once got Asad Ali selected (That Faislabad Bowler).

He had Shoaib Malik and Umar Amin batting at #6 or #7 :facepalm:
 
There is no place other than number 4 in both tests and ODIs for Haris sohail. Him and Babar are the ones needed to ensure Pakistan have a chance of scoring 300 in most games. A good reliable hitter at number 6 would make sure it actually happens.
 
Hope he has improved his strike rotation. I remember Dhoni completely shutting him down by blocking off his primary scoring zones. Needs to become more unpredictable.
 
waleed88 said:
If Babar does that, he is saving up for something special. It happened in all 4 of his centuries.

The chase was not more than 6 runs per over. It was a par score on Pakistani pitches, and Fawad scored much quicker than the required rate..
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he made a fifty with no intent of chasing a target close to 300, but then later after crossing 75 changing his mind to chase down the target losing every other batsmen in the side..too late bro.... this inns similar to the one shehzad played against BAN with fawad on other side, where afridi cameo won the game for pak and saved shezzie boy selfish hundred... you can point out if babar had anywhere batted like that in his very short career of 25 matches...
 
Shafi said:
Fitness criteria is just rubbish!!!!Kamran does not even look match fit still he got selected
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Two people with bellies do not have equal stamenna and heart rate.


Kamran isn't fit enough for INT cricket at this point of time but it needs to be seen that If Haris and Kamran are batting at 40 of 50 balls in an Int match than who is huffing and puffing more ? Who is failing to take quick singles and doubles ?

Kamran worked very hard in last PCB Camp so it needs to be seen in fitness tests that who scores what in different Tests.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
he made a fifty with no intent of chasing a target close to 300, but then later after crossing 75 changing his mind to chase down the target losing every other batsmen in the side..too late bro.... this inns similar to the one shehzad played against BAN with fawad on other side, where afridi cameo won the game for pak and saved shezzie boy selfish hundred... you can point out if babar had anywhere batted like that in his very short career of 25 matches...
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5th ODI vs Australia... no intent on chasing the target..

4th ODI vs Australia... no intent to chase the target, batting at a strike rate of 60- Sharjeel gets out because of the pressure he put on

Conveniently you forgot to mention Fawad played that same game in which Shehzad got a 100, stayed till the end getting a run a ball 75, including hitting 2 sixes in the last over to make it a run-ball to chase in the last over
 
Haris is also a natural replacement for Younis in the slips. If we can get Sharjeel back, we'd have two very safe pair of hands.
 
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