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Should Mohammad Rizwan still be in the squad after his preformance in the Champions One-Day Cup 2024

5 of 21 today by this loser. Was also out on 0 but umpire didn't give the call
 
19 of 43 today while everyone else collapsed around him like a house of cards and he didn't even care to manage drs when he knew full well rain was coming?

Allah
 
Why do people vanish from this thread whenever rizzu fails? Or performs poorly.

You lot are proving to me why you're dishonest with yourself
 
mominsaigol said:
19 of 43 today while everyone else collapsed around him like a house of cards and he didn't even care to manage drs when he knew full well rain was coming?

Allah
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Are you in senses, everyone else collapsed do what he should have done , come down the track to slog.

Saim Shafiq KG Agha that's four batsmen who failed miserably. What has Rizwan to do with this
 
Kianig89 said:
Are you in senses, everyone else collapsed do what he should have done , come down the track to slog.

Saim Shafiq KG Agha that's four batsmen who failed miserably. What has Rizwan to do with this
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Bro with all due respect leave it be.

We both know full well that rizwan plays every game in a similar manner. Unless he's facing C string or Sri lankan bowlers, Dude is clueless against even semi decent bowling.

He scored 44 of 72 while batting first against aus. Even today when only 2 wickets were down and he could have easily scored, He played 10 dots and took 20 balls to hit 3 runs.

Situation has nothing to do with anything. Same misbah level excuses over and over.

This is how Rizwan bats. Plain and simple.
 
mominsaigol said:
Bro with all due respect leave it be.

We both know full well that rizwan plays every game in a similar manner. Unless he's facing C string or Sri lankan bowlers, Dude is clueless against even semi decent bowling.

He scored 44 of 72 while batting first against aus. Even today when only 2 wickets were down and he could have easily scored, He played 10 dots and took 20 balls to hit 3 runs.

Situation has nothing to do with anything. Same misbah level excuses over and over.

This is how Rizwan bats. Plain and simple.
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Misbah was much better then Rizwan when it came to fooling people, but with Rizwan, people praise him because he has a nice personality, that’s literally what you say about a lady who only got one thing going for her, and in this case, what we saw was, Zimbabwe violate this nice personality. But here’s the thing, it doesn’t matter how many times Rizwan is violated, he’s still pretty.
 
Kianig89 said:
Are you in senses, everyone else collapsed do what he should have done , come down the track to slog.

Saim Shafiq KG Agha that's four batsmen who failed miserably. What has Rizwan to do with this
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If I’d just woken up in the afternoon and checked the scorecard, I’d probably think the same as you. The scorecard makes Rizwan look much better compared to everyone else.

But cricket isn’t just about numbers, there’s a lot more to it. Things like intent, pressure, momentum, and game awareness matter just as much.

When we lost two early wickets, Rizwan, being an experienced player, should’ve stepped up and put some pressure on the Zimbabwe bowlers. Even a boundary or two at that point could’ve shifted the momentum towards Pakistan and made them think twice.

Instead, he was just playing it too safe, poking around without any intent, and to top it off, he was even caught on 0, but Zimbabwe didn’t appeal.

Stuff like that doesn’t show upson the scorecard, but it makes a huge difference in how the game plays out.

And look, it’s understandable if this was against Australia or India, but for God’s sake, it was Zimbabwe.

This wasn’t the kind of bowling attack that should’ve kept someone like Rizwan quiet.
 
emranabbas said:
If I’d just woken up in the afternoon and checked the scorecard, I’d probably think the same as you. The scorecard makes Rizwan look much better compared to everyone else.

But cricket isn’t just about numbers, there’s a lot more to it. Things like intent, pressure, momentum, and game awareness matter just as much.

When we lost two early wickets, Rizwan, being an experienced player, should’ve stepped up and put some pressure on the Zimbabwe bowlers. Even a boundary or two at that point could’ve shifted the momentum towards Pakistan and made them think twice.

Instead, he was just playing it too safe, poking around without any intent, and to top it off, he was even caught on 0, but Zimbabwe didn’t appeal.

Stuff like that doesn’t show upson the scorecard, but it makes a huge difference in how the game plays out.

And look, it’s understandable if this was against Australia or India, but for God’s sake, it was Zimbabwe.

This wasn’t the kind of bowling attack that should’ve kept someone like Rizwan quiet.
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Sean Williams was looking to pump Pakistan as captain. He came and batted with positive intent! Then look at how he came to bowl with a mission! Relentless bowling!

I’m hoping for Sean Williams to absolutely school Rizwan in this series! Then his fanboys can blame Aqib Javed and not him
 
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shamaan said:
So you drop the captain based upon 1 or 2 bad series.
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There’s a long stretch of poor performances with the bat and on top of that, serious evidence of meddling with Pakistan cricket affairs behind the scenes. Why do we want a non-performing captain, why should he be given special treatment ? Is he the second coming of Imran Khan with his leadership skills ?
 
Painful watching his knock against zim is 3rd ODI. Could not believe he's regressed so rapidly.

Earlier he used to take 15 balls to get going but now his innings just never attains any flow.

He's not an ODI number 4 clearly and would be unfair to the team if he continues playing at that spot
 
real test will be the sa tests.Hope he is expozsed by coetzee and jansen but the thing is we dont a wk who can replace him
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Probably just his real age showing. 32 is very likely only on paper.
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Probably when he is struggling to time the ball to this degree but he has always been a very limited batsman, he has just been worked out now by most good bowlers and can’t find a way to adjust.

Maybe another call with Misbah is long over due, previously he gave him the slog sweep, maybe he can give him his most prized asset, the same blade used by Maximus in the Coliseum; the forward defence :yk3
 
I wish to Ping my brothers @Rana @TheSultan and @shaz619 for this.

Rizwan's stats since he became captain

Australia odi

74 Avg 75 SR

Australia t20

8 Avg 56 SR

Zimbabwe Odi

56 avg and 62 SR

^^ The reason why I wish to highlight this, is that this is the primary reason as to why Rizwan's stats are heavily inflated. It's because he's going not out and usually coming in at the back end of an innings to score some measily runs at a snails pace.

In reality rizwan's scores look something like this

44 of 72
37 of 47

Similarly his 19 of 43 againat Zimbabwe in the first odi boosted his stats to 56 avg against Zimbabwe.

These are the numbers that are frequently inflated and what fans constantly use to justify rizwan's avg.

In reality he is not an all format 40avg batter.

Logically he only avg 23 with sr 62 againat Zimbabwe but because he went not out not caring for drs the number has been boosted to 56.
 
shaz619 said:
There’s a long stretch of poor performances with the bat and on top of that, serious evidence of meddling with Pakistan cricket affairs behind the scenes. Why do we want a non-performing captain, why should he be given special treatment ? Is he the second coming of Imran Khan with his leadership skills ?
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Show the evidence of Meddling with pakistan cricket affairs.So if a player performs with the bat and doesnt win games that's fine?

What are the replacements for Rizwan as captain?
 
shamaan said:
Show the evidence of Meddling with pakistan cricket affairs.So if a player performs with the bat and doesnt win games that's fine?

What are the replacements for Rizwan as captain?
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- Using his consultancy to directly conspire with the Pakistani management set-up
- Widely reported to have accepted his role based on specific guarantees
- Orchestrated the dosti yari cult which has plagued the Pakistani dressing room
- Refuses to admit his inadequacies as as a cricketer and is unable to bat anywhere other then the top order, not to mention disturbing the entire batting line up

Saud Shakeel would be my Test captain
Fakhar Zaman to lead the ODI’s & T20’s

I would allow Rizwan to play the Tests on probation, but he wouldn’t be in my limited overs teams. He is on the wrong side of his 30’s and you should be grooming a new keeper regardless, so I would give an opportunity to any promising young keeper who is willing to bat anywhere in the line up and is committed to attack, I can’t lose with investing in the future can I….
 
shaz619 said:
- Using his consultancy to directly conspire with the Pakistani management set-up
- Widely reported to have accepted his role based on specific guarantees
- Orchestrated the dosti yari cult which has plagued the Pakistani dressing room
- Refuses to admit his inadequacies as as a cricketer and is unable to bat anywhere other then the top order, not to mention disturbing the entire batting line up

Saud Shakeel would be my Test captain
Fakhar Zaman to lead the ODI’s & T20’s

I would allow Rizwan to play the Tests on probation, but he wouldn’t be in my limited overs teams. He is on the wrong side of his 30’s and you should be grooming a new keeper regardless, so I would give an opportunity to any promising young keeper who is willing to bat anywhere in the line up and is committed to attack, I can’t lose with investing in the future can I….
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What specific guarantees has he asked for her?

He should not be batting at 4 in odis I agree with that.Fakhar Zaman is also above 30.Haris has half a brain cell.Haseebullah isnt that good.
 
Rizwan last 6 t20 games

25 avg, 84 SR.

He's even worse then Agha lol, even though he's an opener.
 
It won't be a surprise if he does good in T20s as captain in SA, the real test would be for Shan and Gillespie
 
Mohammad Rizwan boasts an impressive T20I record against the Proteas

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BouncerGuy said:
Record is good but can he repeat these kind of stats???
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No because his purple patch is over.

Most players with technical issues usually burst onto the scene with impressive performances but eventually thanks to footage, players figure them out.

At the end of the day Babar ain't coming back to form unless he actually improves his spin play and rizzu will keep showcasing rubbish molasses level performances if he can't develop offside shots.

Every player has some technical defiency don't get me wrong, but not being able to play on the offside at all or not being able to play any backfoot shots againat spin is a huge factor.
 
carried the bat throughout the innings, could have been run out 3-4 times….

Still he saw his side fall 10 short!

This is the reason why him and his coward idol Babar didn’t come out for the super over against USA

Tashreef main damm nahi hai!
 
IIRC, at 10 over stage, Pakistan were around 70 and Rizwan was on 24, less than half the runs scored by the team and faced 50% of the deliveries. That’s mad.
 
mominsaigol said:
74 of 60, Jesus christ this was one of the most painful innings I've watched
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Final score is still misleading. After first 6 PP overs he was 15(19), after 15th over he was 36(44). Hitting 2-3 sixes in the end after playing horrible inning can never guarantee victory. He played more than 10 overs, he should have simply won the game
 
zaidihusain said:
Final score is still misleading. After first 6 PP overs he was 15(19), after 15th over he was 36(44). Hitting 2-3 sixes in the end after playing horrible inning can never guarantee victory. He played more than 10 overs, he should have simply won the game
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Bro ik, I watched his entire innings
 
Usman Chadda said:
This thread is justified.

Terrible knock, doesn’t deserve any praise whatsoever.
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Thanks, I never had any animosity towards rizzu, Infact i even wanted him as a test keeper cause their wasn't anyone else.

However he was never a t20 batsmen. Once the purple patch ended, he was bound to be exposed eventually. Now everyone even minnow bowlers know that to nullify rizwan, you just need to bowl on the offside and he can't really play it.
 
His fake age catching up to him, its clear his reflexes are awful compared to a year and half ago
 
Just like his beloved mentor Misbah, he's fooling all the gullible masses with his fake staying at the crease and eating all the balls otherwise 'team will collapse' garbage.

Garbage player
 
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2024 balls per six against regular test nations (left out zimbabwe/ireland)

Minimum 10 sixes

PlayerMatBFSR4s

6s
​
Balls/6
AD Russell (WI)885202.351016
5.3​
FH Allen (NZ)10197178.682531
6.4​
Rishad Hossain (BAN)1170142.85411
6.4​
GR Adair (IRE)376164.47811
6.9​
SV Samson (IND)10190192.633227
7.0​
M Jansen (SA)1071183.09910
7.1​
NT Tilak Varma (IND)5163187.732321
7.8​
Abhishek Sharma (IND)778169.231310
7.8​
HG Munsey (SCOT)596154.161012
8.0​
GJ Delany (IRE)7106161.321213
8.2​
N Pooran (WI)15246149.182030
8.2​
YBK Jaiswal (IND)585178.821510
8.5​
TM Head (AUS)9189176.193622
8.6​
TH David (AUS)15139164.741616
8.7​
KR Mayers (WI)5105140.95812
8.8​
E Lewis (WI)8117152.131713
9.0​
Fakhar Zaman (PAK)10192154.682120
9.6​
RG Sharma (IND)9193167.353120
9.7​
SE Rutherford (WI)16184144.561519
9.7​
R Powell (WI)17308138.632131
9.9​
B McMullen (SCOT)5130149.231213
10.0​
MR Marsh (AUS)10174141.951517
10.2​
JG Bethell (ENG)7103167.961410
10.3​
GJ Maxwell (AUS)13224168.753921
10.7​
PD Salt (ENG)13252166.264023
11.0​
SD Hope (WI)12177153.672216
11.1​
H Klaasen (SA)11177128.241216
11.1​
SA Yadav (IND)16230163.913920
11.5​
MP Stoinis (AUS)11121145.451310
12.1​
HH Pandya (IND)15234150.423319
12.3​
DA Miller (SA)11211121.81517
12.4​
DA Warner (AUS)8189161.93315
12.6​
RK Singh (IND)13128144.531210
12.8​
KIC Asalanka (SL)15171130.991313
13.2​
Q de Kock (SA)9159140.252112
13.3​
BA King (WI)13240146.253718
13.3​
J Charles (WI)9148154.052911
13.5​
R Shepherd (WI)16135130.371210
13.5​
LS Livingstone (ENG)13167150.291812
13.9​
S Dube (IND)10171139.761512
14.3​
Towhid Hridoy (BAN)11194129.891613
14.9​
JC Buttler (ENG)11231153.673715
15.4​
Rahmanullah Gurbaz (AFG)12300125.662919
15.8​
RR Hendricks (SA)16226129.642914
16.1​
BJ Bennett (ZIM)162501364013
19.2​
BKG Mendis (SL)16368128.264419
19.4​
GD Phillips (NZ)12251128.682712
20.9​
T Stubbs (SA)13266128.573411
24.2​
Sikandar Raza (ZIM)16260124.613010
26.0​
Mohammad Rizwan (PAK)14348113.52712
29.0​
P Nissanka (SL)13326138.956410
32.6​
Babar Azam (PAK)17335139.15310
33.5​
 
Rizwan played a pretty bad inning. He should cry rivers after seeing that his team lost because he was too slow. Should just drop himself like he dropped Salman. Let Omair play who is a hit or miss type player. No need for anchors.

Criminal that saim was there and you came out to open... These guys will never learn
 
If he played normally, they would have chased the total. South Africa had a terrible day with the extras and basically handed them the game.

Unfortunately, Pakistan's Oscar nominee decided to be selfish.

Then he conveniently blames the middle order in the post-match interview ignoring the pressure he put on them to hit out.
 
If you play that no. of deliveries in a T20 then you should win the win the game, Rizwan was always behind the rate through out his innings
 
Rizwan made a mess when he kept sufiyan bowling in death overs. That was criminal. Runs should have been around 160 but Rizwan let them score too many.

The off course his batting and walking out to open instead of Saim. Criminal.
 
Asking Pak to chase 190 is like asking Argentinian cricket team to chase that, just not going to happen.. Rizwan’s runs gave respectability to the defeat. Lost by 11 runs sounds good if it were up to usman & Ayub defeat would have been 80 runs.
 
Rizwan is wasting Saim's effectiveness by pushing him down the order. Saim thrives in the first six overs, where he builds confidence and sets up his power hitting for the rest of the innings. When he comes in after the powerplay, he isn't as explosive, as his game relies more on ground strokes, and he tends to lose his rhythm especially when fielders are outside the circle.
 
AAli98 said:
Asking Pak to chase 190 is like asking Argentinian cricket team to chase that, just not going to happen.. Rizwan’s runs gave respectability to the defeat. Lost by 11 runs sounds good if it were up to usman & Ayub defeat would have been 80 runs.
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Sahibzada Ramiz Raja
 
Pretty awful innings given that there was an exact target he had to chase.

It looks like Pakistan had no strategy on how to chase this score, the captain himself was clueless, maybe he was relying on Babar to scores his 45(35) and later accelerate.

Babar seems to be in one of the worst rut of form. He is not even scoring against C teams.
 
AAli98 said:
Asking Pak to chase 190 is like asking Argentinian cricket team to chase that, just not going to happen.. Rizwan’s runs gave respectability to the defeat. Lost by 11 runs sounds good if it were up to usman & Ayub defeat would have been 80 runs.
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But Ayub made 31(15) with seven fours, he was easily your best batsman last night.
 
AAli98 said:
Asking Pak to chase 190 is like asking Argentinian cricket team to chase that, just not going to happen.. Rizwan’s runs gave respectability to the defeat. Lost by 11 runs sounds good if it were up to usman & Ayub defeat would have been 80 runs.
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Rizwan’s runs gave respectability to the defeat

🤣🤣.
 
That was an awful innings. His SR never went above 100 till the 17th over. Leaving it to the others do the heavy lifting.
He faced over half the balls and managed a SR of less than 120- The team loses by 11 runs. Its clear who is to blame.

Embrassing stuff.
 
Nothing will change

He’s probably got his category A contract sorted with the PCB for the next 2 years

This is Pakistan cricket. He won’t be held accountable ever.
 
Just such a sh!t cricketer, even worse then his hero :misbah .

Misbah many a time couldn’t go for the kill due to his defensive wiring, Rizwan can’t because he is completely incompetent.

There’s some recency bias here but I genuinely believe Rizwan is the worst player to represent Pakistan.
 
This has to be one of the worst innings I’ve ever seen, even worse than thel Wajahatullah Wasti knock we had to sit through back in the days.

This guy is making Misbah look like an attacking batsman. I don’t get how anyone can defend him playing 17 overs at a strike rate in the 60s or 70s in t20's that is just ridiculous.

All it does is put extra pressure on the guys coming in next, forcing them to take risks and lose their wickets trying to to catch up the required run rate . It kills the momentum and just makes everything harder for the team.

single handely lost the game for Pakistan first with his silly decisions and then with the bat
 
emranabbas said:
This has to be one of the worst innings I’ve ever seen, even worse than thel Wajahatullah Wasti knock we had to sit through back in the days.

This guy is making Misbah look like an attacking batsman. I don’t get how anyone can defend him playing 17 overs at a strike rate in the 60s or 70s in t20's that is just ridiculous.

All it does is put extra pressure on the guys coming in next, forcing them to take risks and lose their wickets trying to to catch up the required run rate . It kills the momentum and just makes everything harder for the team.

single handely lost the game for Pakistan first with his silly decisions and then with the bat
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I guess you didn't watch Asia cup 2022. Nothing beats that for me.

In this match we only had one rizzu to botch things. In asia cup we had both chacha and rizwan 🤣🤣.

Watching those 2 was absolutely torture. In this innings atleast the batters at the other end were doing something and saim gave us some entertainment.
 
mominsaigol said:
I guess you didn't watch Asia cup 2022. Nothing beats that for me.

In this match we only had one rizzu to botch things. In asia cup we had both chacha and rizwan 🤣🤣.

Watching those 2 was absolutely torture. In this innings atleast the batters at the other end were doing something and saim gave us some entertainment.
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Guy has at least 4 stellar karnaamey in T20i cricket

Exceptional vision by Misbah ul Haq to promote him as an opener and then vehemently defending his decision with time
 
Rana said:
Guy has at least 4 stellar karnaamey in T20i cricket

Exceptional vision by Misbah ul Haq to promote him as an opener and then vehemently defending his decision with time
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When has Misbah ever understood t20 cricket?

He murdered the entire side in 2012. I remember that England game and the media hate that followed. It was so horribly bad that they had to go Pr mode upon Pr mode to cover it up. And misbah was forced to retire as t20 captain.

Misbah tried to be cute and cheeky. He orchestrated a squad with has been like shehzad, Unar akmal and Imam as t20 openers to lose the series 3-0 against sri lanka.

This allowed him to use the excuse of sarfi being rubbish and axing him. What's funny is that the reporters literally called Misbah put for this and he only sarcastically stated that " I am not asking my right handers to bat left". He knew full well what he was doing.

Afterwards he brought rizzu in as an opener and stated that this guy opened in sngpl and he values consistency at the top. Consistency in t20 lolololololo. Sky is literally the most inconsistent batter I've seen and look where he's at in t20.

Furthermore he also convinced fakhar that he's useless and should bat down the order so that fakhar doesn't whine or complain to the media.
 
GreenKhan said:
That was an awful innings. His SR never went above 100 till the 17th over.
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An opener chasing 180-190 runs and playing 100 SR till 17th overs?

You lose the game right there and then. Others have to then score at SR of 200 to chase 180-190 runs.
 
All this talk about Rizwan being rubbish. What’s going to happen?

He will be back out opening next game with his mate Babar
 
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