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This is just so embarrassing, especially that whole “just come out” gesture. Like you are good for nothing!
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This is just so embarrassing, especially that whole “just come out” gesture. Like you are good for nothing!
This is just so embarrassing, especially that whole “just come out” gesture. Like you are good for nothing!
Which in the long run should help Pak cricket. There is a thing called working on your game. This something they dont do, as they are lazy. This might make them actually do that!On forums we can take sides.
But in the real world this is an embarrassment not just for Rizwan fans but for us all.
Our players don't get scope to play high competitive leagues. Rizwan arrived with much fanfare but his spell is so dismal it may give BBL a reason to not pick Pakistani players in the future.
I have no idea where this came from. Are you ok?Yep Riz and Babar should be replaced by the tailenders pretending to be batters in our u19 team currently.
Who is w00ting for Ahmed Hasan or Ali Baloch in place of Babar Azam in Pak T20 team?
@Muhammad Saad clearly seems very upset and hence this weird outburst.I have no idea where this came from. Are you ok?
I think he’s Indian (or Rizwan himself). That user name is a give away.
Sameer Minhas is probably just as good as those guys already.Yep Riz and Babar should be replaced by the tailenders pretending to be batters in our u19 team currently.
Who is w00ting for Ahmed Hasan or Ali Baloch in place of Babar Azam in Pak T20 team?
Gazza bhai he didn't do it. His captain walked onto the pitch and forced him out. This is an embarrassment for the whole nation.What an exaggerated and unnecessary thread lol. Many batters have been tactically retired out in the history of the game. Riz is a team man. Retiring early was a bad move but he did it for the team’s cause

Hassan KhanBy the way, who is this Hassan at the other end? Another Pakistani? If yes, he has batted better at 36(23)*
Melbourne Renegades' play-off hopes were hinging heavily on this match, now because of this loss they are hanging on by a thread and in all likeliness will be eliminated. They have every right to retire a player out if he is showing no signs of life like Rizwan was out there. It's about performance, not ego. As an overseas player you have extra pressure to perform and Rizwan so far has probably been the worst batsman in their squad.If a message was not send to Rizwan for this before then it was definitely harsh.
As an international player if a domestic captain is marching down the pitch to get me off the pitch. I'm definitely standing my ground. They can decide not to play me but as a player, no way I'm leaving the pitch if I don't want to.
Melbourne Renegades' play-off hopes were hinging heavily on this match, now because of this loss they are hanging on by a thread and in all likeliness will be eliminated. They have every right to retire a player out if he is showing no signs of life like Rizwan was out there. It's about performance, not ego. As an overseas player you have extra pressure to perform and Rizwan so far has probably been the worst batsman in their squad.
Its not his fault to be fair.
He keeps getting signed up by leagues and the team.
The people signing him up for BBL, Pakistan should get their heads checked.
We already know he will not be able to play at faster rate.
That's his ability.
I'm surprised why he is still selected in the 11. Do they not have a backup WK? Sutherland looked extremely frustrated in the video, making me confused as to how he has persisted with him till now. That frustration was an accumulation of several games not just this
What an exaggerated and unnecessary thread lol. Many batters have been tactically retired out in the history of the game. Riz is a team man. Retiring early was a bad move but he did it for the team’s cause
Rizwan should've stood his ground. He compromised yet again like he did with CT25 squad.Gazza bhai he didn't do it. His captain walked onto the pitch and forced him out. This is an embarrassment for the whole nation.
Agreed. Then they shouldn't have selected Rizwan for this game if they so cared for making to the playoffs.Melbourne Renegades' play-off hopes were hinging heavily on this match, now because of this loss they are hanging on by a thread and in all likeliness will be eliminated. They have every right to retire a player out if he is showing no signs of life like Rizwan was out there. It's about performance, not ego. As an overseas player you have extra pressure to perform and Rizwan so far has probably been the worst batsman in their squad.
Nic Madison did too last week. He did it willingly in fact. Got out of the ground himself.List of players who were retired out in T20
Faf du Plessis, Ravichandran Ashwin, Carlos Brathwaite, Mahela Jayawardene, Tilak Verma
Not a bad league to be in.
None of them claimed to be the Bradman of T20 cricketList of players who were retired out in T20
Faf du Plessis, Ravichandran Ashwin, Carlos Brathwaite, Mahela Jayawardene, Tilak Verma
Not a bad league to be in.
Nah man.Rizwan should've stood his ground. He compromised yet again like he did with CT25 squad.
As a batter when you're in the game. You're in the game. Submitting to Sutherland's demand like that is giving your self ego away. Which is a very precious thing to the mental strength of an individual. Psychologically speaking.
Getting subbed off like that in Cricket is an L that could've and should've been avoided.Nah man.
He has nothing to fall back on.
Fair enough if he was batting at a 160 sr in the tournament before this.
But he's been crawling along and team moving him up and down the order to try and work around him. This innings was the straw that broke the camels back.
Was a good time for him to get crampsGetting subbed off like that in Cricket is an L that could've and should've been avoided.
As a batter you'd rather be dropped and get disgraced and embarrassed like that.
Lol, this is why Pakistani players have so much ego over small things. Always ego over professionalism. Such players never reach the height of the true greats.If a message was not send to Rizwan for this before then it was definitely harsh.
As an international player if a domestic captain is marching down the pitch to get me off the pitch. I'm definitely standing my ground. They can decide not to play me but as a player, no way I'm leaving the pitch if I don't want to.

I never saw you admitting that Mohd Haris was trash?Oh Rehnde ab.
Admit it you were caught out for having a poor understanding of the game.
Max holden in ilt20 desert viperNone of them claimed to be the Bradman of T20 cricket
They aren’t good enough for even Pakistan as their replacements clearly have the potential to do better.I never saw you admitting that Mohd Haris was trash?
On the other hand I have always said that Babar and Rizwan aren’t t20 players but they are still good enough for Pakistan.
Rizwan was initially refusing to go off as well
What lying?!! Look at the video of the captain and dug outStop lying..
I like how the conversation is about how other batsmen have lost their team games, rather than questioning Rizwan’s prowess as a match-winner.

There is not a more political and conniving cricket analyst than RL
Watch from 5 minutes onwards,
RL implying the skipper wouldn’t or might not call a white player back
@topspin @shaz619 @DeadlyVenom @TheSultan @RidiculousMan
Watch from 5 minutes onwards,
RL implying the skipper wouldn’t or might not call a white player back
@topspin @shaz619 @DeadlyVenom @TheSultan @RidiculousMan
I can't stand Abdur Rauf in this video. He's speaking things out of fictitious facts and making judgements on the whim and old data like Rizwan was great as T20 opener (Which was like 2021 when he was good).
Watch from 5 minutes onwards,
RL implying the skipper wouldn’t or might not call a white player back
@topspin @shaz619 @DeadlyVenom @TheSultan @RidiculousMan
This is just so dumb - both of them
Watch from 5 minutes onwards,
RL implying the skipper wouldn’t or might not call a white player back
@topspin @shaz619 @DeadlyVenom @TheSultan @RidiculousMan
Pak former players have 0 sense or knowledge.
Watch from 5 minutes onwards,
RL implying the skipper wouldn’t or might not call a white player back
@topspin @shaz619 @DeadlyVenom @TheSultan @RidiculousMan
Unfortunately tbese analysts have been influential for a long time and influence PCB policy as they are seen as the font of knowledge.Pak former players have 0 sense or knowledge.
Tilak is nothing but an asia cup winner but rizwan is the Bradman of t20s as per his pr.Tilak Varma was also retired out once in an IPL game.
Seniority culture plagues our cricket man. We need to get out of this mindset of what you can and can't do with players depending on their own experience.This is just so dumb - both of them
Raof is arguing “how can you do this to someone who has been an international captain before”? Are these guys right in the head? No one gives a toss if he’s been captain or lassi maker. And as for RL stop playing the race card.
It’s funny watching all this outrage!
There have been other players who have been subbed in other leagues, I definitely know tilak and I think Roston chase too. No one made a big deal of it, you know why? They were actually striking at a respectable rate, not like Rizwan who was pathetic.
The others went off without complaints and not much fuss from the media because until they retired they actually played fairly decent innings. They did their part before that and it was perfectly acceptable to hand over to some fresh legs to come and smash it.
The problem with Rizwan is he actually batted like his usual w”anchor” self, he’s obviously got a reputation of having a poor strike rate. He wasn’t only humiliated by the substitution, he’s been humiliating himself on a regular basis, and this was just the icing on the cake.
If you do not have a complex about your strike rate, it’s no big deal to get subbed. Rizwan knows what his real problem is and so do these two
that is more dangerousMay be he can be the Dawah guy in the Pak squad. Cricket always looked like secondary for him.
T20 cricket has changed since 2021.Some of these BBL teams are better than some international sides.
Is it really that far fetched to say that they are good enough to beat the Pakistan t20 team? I don't think it is.
On that basis, I dont understand how this one off incident somehow means that Rizwan should not be our keeper in the national t20 side. I find the whole thing a bit bizarre if I'm being completely honest.
Cobra and know it all are on Saya’s payroll. Also cobra is from karachi, some of the people from there are naturally good at race card and victim card. No diss to all of people in karachi.This is just so dumb - both of them
Raof is arguing “how can you do this to someone who has been an international captain before”? Are these guys right in the head? No one gives a toss if he’s been captain or lassi maker. And as for RL stop playing the race card.
It’s funny watching all this outrage!
There have been other players who have been subbed in other leagues, I definitely know tilak and I think Roston chase too. No one made a big deal of it, you know why? They were actually striking at a respectable rate, not like Rizwan who was pathetic.
The others went off without complaints and not much fuss from the media because until they retired they actually played fairly decent innings. They did their part before that and it was perfectly acceptable to hand over to some fresh legs to come and smash it.
The problem with Rizwan is he actually batted like his usual w”anchor” self, he’s obviously got a reputation of having a poor strike rate. He wasn’t only humiliated by the substitution, he’s been humiliating himself on a regular basis, and this was just the icing on the cake.
If you do not have a complex about your strike rate, it’s no big deal to get subbed. Rizwan knows what his real problem is and so do these two
Actually feel bad for him... he has stooped to a new low even by his standards. Maybe he will find a way to invent himself if he truly looks in the mirror this time... even Hafeez developed six hitting later part lf his career. Can Rizwan turn around from this low. Time will tell...When Rizwan walked off there, he’d have done well to keep walking until he’d reached the airport, boarding the first flight home. A complete embarrassment he’s been this season.
Rizwan was never the fastest run maker, but you could rely on him to score 50s at 120 strike rate for fun. Not ideal but something at least. He’s now just a passenger in the team, and a very costly one for Melbourne.
They probably also looked at the players’ availability. From a cricket perspective, opting for Babar over some one like Saim, who opens too but has better SR and can bowl as well, makes no senseIt’s failure of team analysts and research departments of BBL teams . Rather than properly researching which Pakistani player really makes up T20 team . They went in look for some stats and random hype, ended up picking two useless t20 batters of Pakistan![]()
Bbl isnt franchise cricket. I think its CA run, they basically sign contracts with boards and agents against money and allow certain cricketers to play.It’s failure of team analysts and research departments of BBL teams . Rather than properly researching which Pakistani player really makes up T20 team . They went in look for some stats and random hype, ended up picking two useless t20 batters of Pakistan![]()
I just saw on fb that there is a report that rizwan is unhappy and filed a complaint with mr and may pull out. Now i dont know if its true and whether mr has more matches.
But if this is true, it will make him look like an idiot