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Should Mohammad Rizwan still be in the squad after his preformance in the Champions One-Day Cup 2024

mominsaigol said:
Rizzu needs to admit that he isn't better then your standard keeper or any keeper that Pakistan has had before.

He has no reason to bat as an opener ahead of saim and fakhar.
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agreed infact I am not in favor to keep him in T20 squad but Usman Khan and Azam Khan are even worst so we need to find a proper replacement.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
agreed infact I am not in favor to keep him in T20 squad but Usman Khan and Azam Khan are even worst so we need to find a proper replacement.
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Rizwan shouldn’t hold on to a spot just because there are opinions that there isn’t anyone better than him. Kick him out.
 
Majority Pak fans: Yeah Rizwan isn’t a good T20 player and he shouldn’t be in the side…but the replacements are no good either….


What kind of nonsense reasoning is this? If you know he isn’t good enough or the right kind of player you need in this format….you kick him out! Tell him he isn’t needed!
 
Rana said:
Majority Pak fans: Yeah Rizwan isn’t a good T20 player and he shouldn’t be in the side…but the replacements are no good either….


What kind of nonsense reasoning is this? If you know he isn’t good enough or the right kind of player you need in this format….you kick him out! Tell him he isn’t needed!
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Tbf, it isn't the worst argument.

I think most of these guys would agree on fakhar and saim opening and rizzu slotting down to no 7.

I'd rather trust usman Khan in t20 though
 
Rizwan won ODI series in australia, people did not acknowledge him for that citing multiple excuses but now he fails in 1st T20 and people jumped the train to criticise him.

Why so hypocrite... praise where he deserves that and then you can criticize as well.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Rizwan won ODI series in australia, people did not acknowledge him for that citing multiple excuses but now he fails in 1st T20 and people jumped the train to criticise him.

Why so hypocrite... praise where he deserves that and then you can criticize as well.
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Just saw the scorecard - it was a 7 over game! What even is that?

Anyway, be it 7 overs or 700, some Pakistan fans will have guns blazing for him (as opposed to no hopers like Azam Khan, Sharjeel Khan etc.)
 
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BouncerGuy said:
Rizwan won ODI series in australia, people did not acknowledge him for that citing multiple excuses but now he fails in 1st T20 and people jumped the train to criticise him.

Why so hypocrite... praise where he deserves that and then you can criticize as well.
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No one has problem except two
 
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A 7 over game, you don't even need 11 players to play. Total farce. Mohammad Rizwan should have just subbed in the below players to make you happy:

Sharjeel Khan
Azam Khan (wk)
Umar Akmal
Asif Ali (c)
Imad Wasim
Mohammad Amir

That much is enough.
 
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Muhammad Rizwan needs 8 Sixes to become First Pakistani to hit 100 T20I Sixes.

Most T20I Sixes for Pakistan:

92* - Rizwan (89 Innings)
76* - Fakhar (84 Innings)
76 - Hafeez (108 Innings)
73 - Afridi (90 Innings)
72* - Babar (116 Innings)
 
Kianig89 said:
Next argument will be Rizwan's Sixes are not impact full. Rizwan is 5th in ICC T20 rankings.

An eye opener for haters

www.brecorder.com

Six T20 records Mohammad Rizwan broke in 2021

* A year to remember for Pakistan's star wicket-keeper
www.brecorder.com
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Rizwan's performances were bad in big events like Aisa cup or t20 world cup but when we compare him other batters, they were even worse so that makes him the best batter from Pakistan still.

Let's talk about his replacements:

HARIS???? (LOL)
HASEEB ??? (BIGGER LOL)
USMAN??? (speechless)
 
BouncerGuy said:
Rizwan's performances were bad in big events like Aisa cup or t20 world cup but when we compare him other batters, they were even worse so that makes him the best batter from Pakistan still.

Let's talk about his replacements:
HARIS???? (LOL)
HASEEB ??? (BIGGER LOL)
USMAN??? (speechless)
Azam Khan (Fainted)
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Fixed
 
Rizwan is essentially a mullah first and a cricketer later and he’s doing pretty good at his second job.
 
mominsaigol said:
11 of 22 so far chasing only 148? Why hasn't anyone questioned his rubbish innings?

@Major Care to give your thoughts Major Sahib? And @Mamoon Sahib?

@Rana @TheSultan And @emranabbas this is how t20 bradman plays his innings my brothers.
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Poor innings but as a captain you’ve to look at the overall contribution. He is the reason Pakistan wasn’t chasing 200 in the first place, and other players have to take ownership as well.

Then again, Aqib thought it was worthwhile to select rubbish players like Sahibzada and Usman who clearly don’t belong to this level. The job of the selector is to enable the captain not disable him.
 
zaidihusain said:
Both Rizwan & Babar has no business to play T20s anymore. This torture must end at the earliest for the sake of Pakistan cricket. They should be forced to retire from T20s like Misbah
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100%, Babar from tests as well
 
Mamoon said:
Poor innings but as a captain you’ve to look at the overall contribution. He is the reason Pakistan wasn’t chasing 200 in the first place, and other players have to take ownership as well.

Then again, Aqib thought it was worthwhile to select rubbish players like Sahibzada and Usman who clearly don’t belong to this level. The job of the selector is to enable the captain not disable him.
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You have to pick domestic performers. It's good that he put these guys out to slaughter this series.
 
zarak said:
You have to pick domestic performers. It's good that he put these guys out to slaughter this series.
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But you have to watch the players and judge their suitability for international cricket. This is what you’re paid for.

You can’t pick based on numbers only. Even a computer software can do that. Human judgment is very important.
 
mominsaigol said:
100%, Babar from tests as well
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Today, as soon as Rizwan & Babar realised that the target is safe to chase they decided to shamelessly open again with an intention to show everyone that they are still match winners and no one can take their positions. This is sheer misuse of authority & seniority. These two must let other players learn & develop
 
Mamoon said:
But you have to watch the players and judge their suitability for international cricket. This is what you’re paid for.

You can’t pick based on numbers only. Even a computer software can do that. Human judgment is very important.
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Look when players are picked by eye people do this whole yaari dosti angle and everyone starts crying. You have to balance both. If you keep picking by the eye test (which I like) all these journos will get after you. One needs to balance out with some domestic stalwarts
 
Its only a tough day for Rizwan fanatics.

Rest of the people know it was just a regular day in the office with Rizwan topping the list of batting failures.

The audacity of Babar and Rizwan to come out when chasing a low target was hilarious.

They wanted "pats on the back" for chasing 148 odd runs.

They rightfully got served their medicine.
 
Have to admit , bad bad innings today by Rizwan in T20 there is no room to play so many dots.
 
Rana said:
Yeah this is the first time he’s played this kind of innings hasn’t he?
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Kia kre Khoon kr de uska, Rizwan should be given ultimatum from mgmt change your approach if not boot him out
 
Kianig89 said:
Kia kre Khoon kr de uska, Rizwan should be given ultimatum from mgmt change your approach if not boot him out
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No

No ultimatum now! Now he must remain and bring Pakistan cricket to the stone ages!

Ab full Zaleel ho! Uske fans bhi!
 
zarak said:
I think this was the worse T20 innings I have ever seen. Maybe Yuvraj played one that was worse.
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Yuvi's was worse tbf, but Rizwan is just a crap player.

In yuvi's case he was a gun t20 player and you don't expect that from him.

From rizwan you're always expecting it so it's baffling that not only is he an opener but captain as well
 
Why are these two Babar and Rizwan rested from Zimbabwe?

Play them now!
 
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Even the squad for Zim t20s is pathetic , could be a nail biting contest
 
Seriously Fakhar Saim should have been included for Zim tour infact even Azam Khan for some comedy
 
BouncerGuy said:
Rizwan won ODI series in australia, people did not acknowledge him for that citing multiple excuses but now he fails in 1st T20 and people jumped the train to criticise him.

Why so hypocrite... praise where he deserves that and then you can criticize as well.
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Specific to this thread, I don't think he's needed for T20s, that's the whole point. Why does he or Babar feel the need to play all three formats and hog spaces that others could better utilise.

Its torture watching them both bat at the top of the order.
 
mominsaigol said:
Yuvi's was worse tbf, but Rizwan is just a crap player.

In yuvi's case he was a gun t20 player and you don't expect that from him.

From rizwan you're always expecting it so it's baffling that not only is he an opener but captain as well
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Yuvraj had a bizarre day. Happens to anyone. On Yuvraj’s bizarre days he fails to make a match winning knock. On Rizwan’s bizarre days he is able to successfully smash the ball way out of the 30m circle. :yk
 
Getting pretty difficult to justify his position in the T20 team. ODIs and tests he’s easily the best option both with bat and gloves
 
Kianig89 said:
Have to admit , bad bad innings today by Rizwan in T20 there is no room to play so many dots.
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You have to admit it this time, no hiding behind the T7 excuse.

Where have you been all these years? Babar and Rizwan have been putting us through torture for years. Just started watching cricket?
 
Kroll said:
Specific to this thread, I don't think he's needed for T20s, that's the whole point. Why does he or Babar feel the need to play all three formats and hog spaces that others could better utilise.

Its torture watching them both bat at the top of the order.
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Exactly. Rizwan must have been rested for Zimbabwe series and team could be lead by Saim or anyone else. No problem even if that series is lost
 
emranabbas said:
You have to admit it this time, no hiding behind the T7 excuse.

Where have you been all these years? Babar and Rizwan have been putting us through torture for years. Just started watching cricket?
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He’s one of those guys who Bazid referred to.

Pakistanis generally believe T20 is a shortened version of ODI cricket. They don’t see T20 as a format where you maximise every ball you can due to a shortage of deliveries available.
 
Rizwan had a poor innings today, playing too many dot balls and failing to accelerate when his team needed him most. Even the shot he got out on seemed like a careless attempt to throw his wicket away.
 
Kianig89 said:
Even the squad for Zim t20s is pathetic , could be a nail biting contest
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You know the reason why - send a weak squad and also remove babar and rizwan. Pakistan lose to Zimbabwe or come close to, and then……

“sEe, tHiS is wHY wE nEEd bABaR aND rIzwAn!”
 
In T20s, playing too many dot balls without accelerating or converting your innings into a significant score after settling in can severely hinder your team’s chances of winning. Such performances often require another player to step up with an extraordinary innings to compensate, which is not always feasible.

Rizwan needs to learn to completely avoid this approach, even if the pitch is challenging. In a T20 game, there’s nothing wrong with getting out while attempting to play at a faster strike rate, as maintaining momentum is crucial for the team’s success.
 
Rizwan case would have been closed had Shahibzada et al. Won Pakistan the game , somebody should have played a blinder at 180SR.

Unfortunately they all are birds of the same flock
 
Kianig89 said:
Rizwan case would have been closed had Shahibzada et al. Won Pakistan the game , somebody should have played a blinder at 180SR.

Unfortunately they all are birds of the same flock
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So Rizwan’s case is still active?
 
Kianig89 said:
Rizwan case would have been closed had Shahibzada et al. Won Pakistan the game , somebody should have played a blinder at 180SR.

Unfortunately they all are birds of the same flock
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This wasn’t a 180-strike-rate pitch, it was sluggish. Rizwan and Babar couldn’t even manage their usual run-a-ball that’s how pathetic they are.

Rizwan fans are so cricket illiterate
 
I don’t think rizwan is needed in T 20 but really what is the alternative ? Azam hopefully never plays for Pakistan . I like Haris but he’s done nothing in last few months to justify a spot in the side maybe we can try Usman as the keeper but does he even do that at domestic level
 
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Xoib said:
I don’t think rizwan is needed in T 20 but really what is the alternative ? fat Azam hopefully never plays for Pakistan . I like Haris but he’s done nothing in last few months to justify a spot in the side maybe we can try Usman as the keeper but does he even do that at domestic level
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“Azam” is always the gotcha moment for Rizwan supporters. There are plenty of other keepers - Haris, Haseebullah, even Rohail Nazir. Give them a chance.
 
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Xoib said:
I don’t think rizwan is needed in T 20 but really what is the alternative ? Azam hopefully never plays for Pakistan . I like Haris but he’s done nothing in last few months to justify a spot in the side maybe we can try Usman as the keeper but does he even do that at domestic level
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Azam should stick to leagues
 
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I don't mind Rizwan. He has been ok in the past but I think his time has been up in T20s for a while now.

I still think he can do a job in T20 and test.

Anyway let's put today's performance into some context using impact ratings.

Salman Agha got an impact of -1.92 for being out first ball.

Rizwan got an impact score of -3.9 for his 16(26).

You can interpret this to mean that Rizwans runs did more damage than Salman first ball duck.

What a waste.
 
I have just one message for Rizwan and all he stands for:

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Rizwan has been pretty poor in T20s for long now. Him along with babar have been bad so they should have been rested from this series as well.

Even though the opening replacements are even bad, farhan?? LOL
Haris?? LOL

Bring Fakhar back and find his partner. People will say Saim but he has got enough games already, not sure why saim still?
 
TheSultan said:
“Azam” is always the gotcha moment for Rizwan supporters. There are plenty of other keepers - Haris, Haseebullah, even Rohail Nazir. Give them a chance.
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Haseebullah and Rohail both are not dynamic and their output will be similar to Rizwan with less consistency but I guess no harm in trying for a series or two they may surprise you
 
After his performance in the 2nd t20 against Australia, Rizwan’s t20 stats have fallen from avg 49 and sr 129 to avg 47 and sr 125.

@TheSultan @Rana @emranabbas

As for Babar Azam, His sr remains unaffected at 129 sr this year but overall has fallen from 131 to 129 since last year, his avg has fallen to 41 from 40.

Stark contrast from 2023 where rizzu avg 51 and sr 130 and Babar avg 49 with sr of 131.

In conclusion

Babar Azam in 2023

avg 49 sr 131

Babar Azam in 2024

avg 40 Sr 129

Rizwan in 2023

avg 51 SR 129

Rizwan in 2024

Avg 47 Sr 125
 
He needs to start stepping up. Ever since he's been made captain and even the series before them he's been dreadful in both odi and t20.

Averaging 8 with a sr of 50 and not even playing one game deapite walking out to field is the textbook definition of a coward captain cause he knew full well he'd be whitewashed.

Secondly while an avg of 74 and sr of 75 may look good on paper for the aussie odi series, the reason why the avg is so high is because rizwan went not out in one game chasing a low total and then scored 44 of 72 in another.

This is Unacceptable levels of performance from a captain.

People cremated Sarfaraz to death because of his batting performance as captain? Where are these hypocrites when it comes to Rizwan?

Infact besides @Rana @shaz619 @TheSultan @Dr_Bassim @emranabbas and maybe a few others who I may have missed and haven't mentioned,

What if he fails against Zimbabwe? What's the next narrative?
 
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mominsaigol said:
He needs to start stepping up. Ever since he's been made captain and even the series before them he's been dreadful in both odi and t20.

Averaging 8 with a sr of 50 and not even playing one game deapite walking out to field is the textbook definition of a coward captain cause he knew full well he'd be whitewashed.

Secondly while an avg of 74 and sr of 75 may look good on paper for the aussie odi series, the reason why the avg is so high is because rizwan went not out in one game chasing a low total and then scored 44 of 72 in another.

This is Unacceptable levels of performance from a captain.

People cremated Sarfaraz to death because of his batting performance as captain? Where are these hypocrites when it comes to Rizwan?

Infact besides @Rana @shaz619 @TheSultan @Dr_Bassim @emranabbas and maybe a few others who I may have missed and haven't mentioned,



What if he fails against Zimbabwe? What's the next narrative?
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In terms of notable scores, so far has made 44 off 71, that dreadful knock in the first ODI defeat. And then the 30* against Australia C. In terrible form with the Bat and generally doesn’t have the tools or awareness to adapt to the adjustments which all bowlers have made against him.

I think management are aware of this so the Zimbabwe tour is an insurance policy. If he struggles there, they will still retain him for the CT and he has managed to suck to Aqib well enough.

But without the results, he will struggle in the long run. Babar avoided it because he had a knack for manufacturing scenarios where he could score plenty of soft runs and brainwash the masses, Rizwan doesn’t have the talent to do it imo because he will still get done by good attacks on favourable pitches.

His keeping is clean but he’s not an amazing stumper of the ball and rarely wins any matches with the Bat, plus is on the wrong side of his 30’s.

Why do Pakistan keep doing this to themselves?

If they win the CT I will be say yeah, congrats, the risk paid off for once. But most likely the vision is so short sighted.

The thing is, people defend him because they like his personality, I feel he is a weirdo but he seems to have an effect even on some posters I’d have considered a bit sharp but Rizwan is like that Bollywood heroine people can’t take their eyes off, while Sarfraz in a similar position would be seen as Maula Jatt
 
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shaz619 said:
In terms of notable scores, so far has made 44 off 71, that dreadful knock in the first ODI defeat. And then the 30* against Australia C. In terrible form with the Bat and generally doesn’t have the tools or awareness to adapt to the adjustments which all bowlers have made against him.

I think management are aware of this so the Zimbabwe tour is an insurance policy. If he struggles there, they will still retain him for the CT and he has managed to suck to Aqib well enough.

But without the results, he will struggle in the long run. Babar avoided it because he had a knack for manufacturing scenarios where he could score plenty of soft runs and brainwash the masses, Rizwan doesn’t have the talent to do it imo because he will still get done by good attacks on favourable pitches.

His keeping is clean but he’s not an amazing stumper of the ball and rarely wins any matches with the Bat, plus is on the wrong side of his 30’s.

Why do Pakistan keep doing this to themselves?

If they win the CT I will be say yeah, congrats, the risk paid off for once. But most likely the vision is so short sighted.

The thing is, people defend him because they like his personality, I feel he is a weirdo but he seems to have an effect even on some posters I’d have considered a bit sharp but Rizwan is like that Bollywood heroine people can’t take their eyes off, while Sarfraz in a similar position would be seen as Maula Jatt
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They have no chance in hell of winning CT.

Ct 2017 was won because the team gelled at the right time and was motivated enough to do so + luck was in their side as well.

Even if luck is on their side in ct 2025, the team isn't gelled.

Sarfi' 2017 team destroys the current 2024/2025 team 5-0 in a series.
 
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