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12 best batsmen of all-time in Test cricket at #5 position?

Harsh Thakor

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best test batsmen at no 5 .on order of merit.


1.Steve Waugh
2.Alan Border
3 Frank Worrell
4.Colin Cowdrey
5.Clive Lloyd
6.Andy Flower
7.Zaheer Abbas
8.Mohammad Azharrudin
9.A.B.Devilliers
10.Michael Clarke
11.Shivnaraine Chanderpaul
12.Samaweera


Steve Waugh is rated at the top ahead of Border because he performed better at no 5 although overall Border was better.Border scored a great bulk of his runs also at no 3 and no.5.Border was the ultimate player to bat for your life even if Steve Waugh had a greater contribution in wins.He was more prolific than Waugh against great bowling although Waugh was a more fluent strokemaker.Both were like architects and soldiers moulded into one.Frank Worrell took cricketing art and grace to regions of the sublime and was close to the most complete batsmen ever Worrell mastered the seaming English wickets outscoring Walcott and Weekes .On his day Cowdrey could join the gods of Olympus with his amazing stroke execution and timing as he displayed in Kingston ion 1959-60 and when scoring 102 out of 191 at Melbourne in 1954.Best no 5 against great pace bowling.Clive Lloyd was consistency personified as a skipper particularly towards the end .He was an epitome of power hitting the ball as hard as any great left-hander.At his best dominated bowling at its deepest depth,carrying a bat like a bludgeon.Andy flower posessed the class of a Viv Richards or Greg Chappell with an amazing array of strokes and singlehandedly carried the mantle of Zimbabwean cricket like George Headley did for West Indies 7 decades ago.Worrell , Zaheer Abbas and Azharrudin were elegance and artistry personified.. On a flat track Zaheer could overshadow even Viv Richards and was the best player of spin in his era.Azhar's glance or flick had the touches of batting genius Ranjitsinghji A.B.Devilliers took batting domination to the regions of divinity like Viv Richards on his day.For a while Clarke was the most evergreen and dominant batsmen at no 5 having a great aggregate staging the best team in the world,South Africa. Although Chanderpaul was unorthodox or a somewhat freak in batting style his figures were simply phenomenal.Samaweera was one of the greatest props of Sri Lankan batting in his time participating in a world record stand for the 5th wicket of 437 runs.
 
Abbas and Azhar are not ahead of AB, Clarke and Shiv.

you have a strong point but I feel one has to asess era.Remember the bowling and wickets of time of Zaheer Abbas ,having to face,Lillee,Holding,Croft etc .No Doubt A.B.,Clarke and Shiv have significantly better stats but I am placing light on the oposition faced.Also points to technique or batting style.
 
you have a strong point but I feel one has to asess era.Remember the bowling and wickets of time of Zaheer Abbas ,having to face,Lillee,Holding,Croft etc .No Doubt A.B.,Clarke and Shiv have significantly better stats but I am placing light on the oposition faced.Also points to technique or batting style.

Clarke and AB both have proved their credentials by doing well against the best bowler of this era i.e. Steyn and peak Johnson( who was ATG in that season).

Shiv himself played against ATG bowlers and was averaging 45-46 till 2006 and when they retired he took his AVG further to 51.

If Abbas and Azhar are more rated due to their elegance and batting style then ABD is also innovative and exciting player while Clarke himself is aesthetically pleasing bat.
 
Record at No.5

Overall
[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AB de Villiers (SA) [/td][td]2006-2015 [/td][td]54 [/td][td]3747 [/td][td]61.42 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MJ Clarke (AUS) [/td][td]2004-2015 [/td][td]72 [/td][td]5959 [/td][td]60.8 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]20 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]S Chanderpaul (WI) [/td][td]1996-2015 [/td][td]99 [/td][td]6883 [/td][td]56.41 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]35 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SR Waugh (AUS) [/td][td]1985-2004 [/td][td]104 [/td][td]6754 [/td][td]56.28 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]29 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GP Thorpe (ENG) [/td][td]1995-2005 [/td][td]52 [/td][td]3373 [/td][td]56.21 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]18 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]A Flower (ZIM) [/td][td]1993-2002 [/td][td]55 [/td][td]3788 [/td][td]54.89 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]22 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Zaheer Abbas (PAK) [/td][td]1969-1985 [/td][td]35 [/td][td]2048 [/td][td]53.89 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Yousuf (PAK) [/td][td]1998-2010 [/td][td]52 [/td][td]3774 [/td][td]53.15 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]19 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AR Border (AUS) [/td][td]1979-1994 [/td][td]58 [/td][td]3071 [/td][td]52.05 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Inzamam-ul-Haq (PAK) [/td][td]1993-2007 [/td][td]39 [/td][td]2144 [/td][td]51.04 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]14 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Misbah-ul-Haq (PAK) [/td][td]2002-2017 [/td][td]69 [/td][td]4643 [/td][td]50.46 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]35 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DI Gower (ENG) [/td][td]1978-1992 [/td][td]34 [/td][td]2131 [/td][td]49.55 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MC Cowdrey (ENG) [/td][td]1954-1970 [/td][td]42 [/td][td]2377 [/td][td]49.52 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]16 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]M Azharuddin (INDIA) [/td][td]1984-2000 [/td][td]72 [/td][td]4346 [/td][td]48.83 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]13 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IR Bell (ENG) [/td][td]2004-2013 [/td][td]42 [/td][td]2461 [/td][td]48.25 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]11 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IVA Richards (WI) [/td][td]1974-1991 [/td][td]49 [/td][td]2720 [/td][td]47.71 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]18 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TT Samaraweera (SL) [/td][td]2004-2013 [/td][td]62 [/td][td]3903 [/td][td]47.59 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]21 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KD Walters (AUS) [/td][td]1966-1977 [/td][td]32 [/td][td]2134 [/td][td]47.42 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]14 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]VVS Laxman (INDIA) [/td][td]1996-2012 [/td][td]52 [/td][td]2877 [/td][td]47.16 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]17 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CH Lloyd (WI) [/td][td]1966-1984 [/td][td]54 [/td][td]3049 [/td][td]46.19 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]14 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AG Prince (SA) [/td][td]2002-2011 [/td][td]43 [/td][td]2450 [/td][td]44.54 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CL Hooper (WI) [/td][td]1988-2002 [/td][td]50 [/td][td]2911 [/td][td]42.18 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]13 [/td][/tr]
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Away Performance
[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AR Border (AUS) [/td][td]1980-1994 [/td][td]27 [/td][td]1390 [/td][td]63.18 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]A Flower (ZIM) [/td][td]1993-2002 [/td][td]28 [/td][td]1942 [/td][td]57.11 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]12 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SR Waugh (AUS) [/td][td]1993-2003 [/td][td]46 [/td][td]3059 [/td][td]56.64 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]10 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]S Chanderpaul (WI) [/td][td]1996-2015 [/td][td]51 [/td][td]3668 [/td][td]56.43 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]18 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DI Gower (ENG) [/td][td]1978-1991 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]1266 [/td][td]52.75 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]4 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AM Rahane (INDIA) [/td][td]2014-2017 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]1155 [/td][td]52.5 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Inzamam-ul-Haq (PAK) [/td][td]1993-2007 [/td][td]23 [/td][td]1238 [/td][td]51.58 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IVA Richards (WI) [/td][td]1974-1991 [/td][td]31 [/td][td]1805 [/td][td]51.57 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]11 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GP Thorpe (ENG) [/td][td]1995-2005 [/td][td]31 [/td][td]1885 [/td][td]50.94 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]9 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KWR Fletcher (ENG) [/td][td]1969-1982 [/td][td]23 [/td][td]1433 [/td][td]49.41 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Misbah-ul-Haq (PAK) [/td][td]2007-2017 [/td][td]39 [/td][td]2448 [/td][td]47.07 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]20 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Yousuf (PAK) [/td][td]1998-2010 [/td][td]30 [/td][td]2157 [/td][td]46.89 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]11 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AB de Villiers (SA) [/td][td]2006-2015 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]1210 [/td][td]46.53 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TT Samaraweera (SL) [/td][td]2004-2013 [/td][td]32 [/td][td]2107 [/td][td]45.8 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]11 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MJ Clarke (AUS) [/td][td]2004-2015 [/td][td]40 [/td][td]2613 [/td][td]45.05 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]11 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MC Cowdrey (ENG) [/td][td]1954-1970 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]1006 [/td][td]43.73 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]PD Collingwood (ENG) [/td][td]2003-2010 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]1393 [/td][td]43.53 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]5 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]PR Umrigar (INDIA) [/td][td]1952-1962 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]1010 [/td][td]42.08 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Saleem Malik (PAK) [/td][td]1987-1996 [/td][td]28 [/td][td]1285 [/td][td]41.45 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]4 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]VVS Laxman (INDIA) [/td][td]2004-2012 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]1269 [/td][td]40.93 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CH Lloyd (WI) [/td][td]1966-1984 [/td][td]35 [/td][td]1794 [/td][td]40.77 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]11 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]M Azharuddin (INDIA) [/td][td]1985-1999 [/td][td]33 [/td][td]1712 [/td][td]40.76 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[/table]
 
Matches Won

[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]S Chanderpaul (WI) [/td][td]1998-2015 [/td][td]18 [/td][td]1441 [/td][td]96.06 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]5 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AB de Villiers (SA) [/td][td]2008-2015 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]1977 [/td][td]85.95 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MEK Hussey (AUS) [/td][td]2005-2013 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]1289 [/td][td]80.56 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GP Thorpe (ENG) [/td][td]1997-2005 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]1832 [/td][td]76.33 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Misbah-ul-Haq (PAK) [/td][td]2009-2017 [/td][td]27 [/td][td]2124 [/td][td]70.8 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]16 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SR Waugh (AUS) [/td][td]1993-2003 [/td][td]60 [/td][td]4244 [/td][td]69.57 [/td][td]18 [/td][td]16 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MJ Clarke (AUS) [/td][td]2004-2014 [/td][td]38 [/td][td]3048 [/td][td]62.2 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]10 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AR Border (AUS) [/td][td]1980-1994 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]1089 [/td][td]60.5 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Yousuf (PAK) [/td][td]1998-2010 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]1450 [/td][td]58 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]9 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TT Samaraweera (SL) [/td][td]2004-2012 [/td][td]22 [/td][td]1527 [/td][td]56.55 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]VVS Laxman (INDIA) [/td][td]2004-2011 [/td][td]18 [/td][td]1074 [/td][td]56.52 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CH Lloyd (WI) [/td][td]1966-1984 [/td][td]22 [/td][td]1329 [/td][td]55.37 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AG Prince (SA) [/td][td]2002-2008 [/td][td]23 [/td][td]1317 [/td][td]54.87 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]2 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IVA Richards (WI) [/td][td]1974-1991 [/td][td]28 [/td][td]1475 [/td][td]54.62 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]9 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KR Miller (AUS) [/td][td]1946-1956 [/td][td]21 [/td][td]1255 [/td][td]52.29 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IR Bell (ENG) [/td][td]2004-2013 [/td][td]18 [/td][td]1138 [/td][td]51.72 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]2 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]M Azharuddin (INDIA) [/td][td]1986-1999 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]1343 [/td][td]51.65 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]3 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AM Rahane (INDIA) [/td][td]2013-2017 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]1056 [/td][td]44 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]3 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WJ Cronje (SA) [/td][td]1994-2000 [/td][td]21 [/td][td]1225 [/td][td]42.24 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[/table]
 
I agree with top6. Border might edge Steve but there is not much to separate them.

And did you missed VVS?

I agree Border by a nose overall biter but Steve performed better just at no 5 all over .
 
What about my rankings of top 5?accurate?

Frank Worrell played only 17 test at no.5 , so i think he is way too high at no.3 on your list if logetivity comes as a factor.

Min 1000 runs at no.5

[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JE Root (ENG) [/td][td]2013-2015 [/td][td]17 [/td][td]1755 [/td][td]73.12 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SPD Smith (AUS) [/td][td]2013-2017 [/td][td]17 [/td][td]1236 [/td][td]61.8 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AB de Villiers (SA) [/td][td]2006-2015 [/td][td]54 [/td][td]3747 [/td][td]61.42 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MJ Clarke (AUS) [/td][td]2004-2015 [/td][td]72 [/td][td]5959 [/td][td]60.8 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]20 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MEK Hussey (AUS) [/td][td]2005-2013 [/td][td]26 [/td][td]1978 [/td][td]59.93 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]9 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SR Tendulkar (INDIA) [/td][td]1993-2012 [/td][td]30 [/td][td]1552 [/td][td]59.69 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]FMM Worrell (WI) [/td][td]1948-1962 [/td][td]17 [/td][td]1189 [/td][td]59.45 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]9 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CL Walcott (WI) [/td][td]1948-1960 [/td][td]23 [/td][td]1599 [/td][td]59.22 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]9 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Sobers (WI) [/td][td]1955-1974 [/td][td]29 [/td][td]1895 [/td][td]59.21 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]S Chanderpaul (WI) [/td][td]1996-2015 [/td][td]99 [/td][td]6883 [/td][td]56.41 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]35 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SR Waugh (AUS) [/td][td]1985-2004 [/td][td]104 [/td][td]6754 [/td][td]56.28 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]29 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GP Thorpe (ENG) [/td][td]1995-2005 [/td][td]52 [/td][td]3373 [/td][td]56.21 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]18 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]A Flower (ZIM) [/td][td]1993-2002 [/td][td]55 [/td][td]3788 [/td][td]54.89 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]22 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Javed Miandad (PAK) [/td][td]1976-1993 [/td][td]31 [/td][td]1468 [/td][td]54.37 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]10 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Zaheer Abbas (PAK) [/td][td]1969-1985 [/td][td]35 [/td][td]2048 [/td][td]53.89 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Yousuf (PAK) [/td][td]1998-2010 [/td][td]52 [/td][td]3774 [/td][td]53.15 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]19 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AR Border (AUS) [/td][td]1979-1994 [/td][td]58 [/td][td]3071 [/td][td]52.05 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Inzamam-ul-Haq (PAK) [/td][td]1993-2007 [/td][td]39 [/td][td]2144 [/td][td]51.04 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]14 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Misbah-ul-Haq (PAK) [/td][td]2002-2017 [/td][td]69 [/td][td]4643 [/td][td]50.46 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]35 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]F du Plessis (SA) [/td][td]2015-2017 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]1256 [/td][td]50.24 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[/table]
 
Frank Worrell played only 17 test at no.5 , so i think he is way too high at no.3 on your list if logetivity comes as a factor.

Min 1000 runs at no.5

[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JE Root (ENG) [/td][td]2013-2015 [/td][td]17 [/td][td]1755 [/td][td]73.12 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SPD Smith (AUS) [/td][td]2013-2017 [/td][td]17 [/td][td]1236 [/td][td]61.8 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AB de Villiers (SA) [/td][td]2006-2015 [/td][td]54 [/td][td]3747 [/td][td]61.42 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MJ Clarke (AUS) [/td][td]2004-2015 [/td][td]72 [/td][td]5959 [/td][td]60.8 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]20 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MEK Hussey (AUS) [/td][td]2005-2013 [/td][td]26 [/td][td]1978 [/td][td]59.93 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]9 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SR Tendulkar (INDIA) [/td][td]1993-2012 [/td][td]30 [/td][td]1552 [/td][td]59.69 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]FMM Worrell (WI) [/td][td]1948-1962 [/td][td]17 [/td][td]1189 [/td][td]59.45 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]9 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CL Walcott (WI) [/td][td]1948-1960 [/td][td]23 [/td][td]1599 [/td][td]59.22 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]9 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Sobers (WI) [/td][td]1955-1974 [/td][td]29 [/td][td]1895 [/td][td]59.21 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]S Chanderpaul (WI) [/td][td]1996-2015 [/td][td]99 [/td][td]6883 [/td][td]56.41 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]35 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SR Waugh (AUS) [/td][td]1985-2004 [/td][td]104 [/td][td]6754 [/td][td]56.28 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]29 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GP Thorpe (ENG) [/td][td]1995-2005 [/td][td]52 [/td][td]3373 [/td][td]56.21 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]18 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]A Flower (ZIM) [/td][td]1993-2002 [/td][td]55 [/td][td]3788 [/td][td]54.89 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]22 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Javed Miandad (PAK) [/td][td]1976-1993 [/td][td]31 [/td][td]1468 [/td][td]54.37 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]10 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Zaheer Abbas (PAK) [/td][td]1969-1985 [/td][td]35 [/td][td]2048 [/td][td]53.89 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Yousuf (PAK) [/td][td]1998-2010 [/td][td]52 [/td][td]3774 [/td][td]53.15 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]19 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AR Border (AUS) [/td][td]1979-1994 [/td][td]58 [/td][td]3071 [/td][td]52.05 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Inzamam-ul-Haq (PAK) [/td][td]1993-2007 [/td][td]39 [/td][td]2144 [/td][td]51.04 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]14 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Misbah-ul-Haq (PAK) [/td][td]2002-2017 [/td][td]69 [/td][td]4643 [/td][td]50.46 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]35 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]F du Plessis (SA) [/td][td]2015-2017 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]1256 [/td][td]50.24 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

very valid point but respected pure class and performance.I actually elevated him from 6th position.What about my other rankings from 1-6?
 
very valid point but respected pure class and performance.I actually elevated him from 6th position.What about my other rankings from 1-6?

Waugh and Border are perfectly placed at 1 and 2 , I'll put Chanderpaul at 3. Flower at 4 , Clarke at 5 , AB de Villiers at 6.
 
What about Colin Cowdrey and Cllive Lloyd?

Colin Cowdrey retired way before i stated watching cricket , but from what i gathered he had a long career , but his average should have been bit higher.
From what i could gather from statsguru some of best players during his time performed better.

[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KF Barrington (ENG) [/td][td]1955-1968 [/td][td]82 [/td][td]6806 [/td][td]58.67 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]35 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Sobers (WI) [/td][td]1954-1974 [/td][td]93 [/td][td]8032 [/td][td]57.78 [/td][td]26 [/td][td]30 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Chappell (AUS) [/td][td]1970-1975 [/td][td]37 [/td][td]2877 [/td][td]52.3 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]13 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KD Walters (AUS) [/td][td]1965-1975 [/td][td]57 [/td][td]4141 [/td][td]48.71 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]26 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RB Simpson (AUS) [/td][td]1957-1968 [/td][td]52 [/td][td]4131 [/td][td]48.6 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]24 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]PBH May (ENG) [/td][td]1954-1961 [/td][td]58 [/td][td]4075 [/td][td]47.94 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]20 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]ER Dexter (ENG) [/td][td]1958-1968 [/td][td]62 [/td][td]4502 [/td][td]47.89 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]27 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]G Boycott (ENG) [/td][td]1964-1974 [/td][td]63 [/td][td]4579 [/td][td]47.69 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]26 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SM Nurse (WI) [/td][td]1960-1969 [/td][td]29 [/td][td]2523 [/td][td]47.6 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]10 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RB Kanhai (WI) [/td][td]1957-1974 [/td][td]79 [/td][td]6227 [/td][td]47.53 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]28 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WM Lawry (AUS) [/td][td]1961-1971 [/td][td]67 [/td][td]5234 [/td][td]47.15 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]27 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]EJ Barlow (SA) [/td][td]1961-1970 [/td][td]30 [/td][td]2516 [/td][td]45.74 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]NCL O'Neill (AUS) [/td][td]1958-1965 [/td][td]42 [/td][td]2779 [/td][td]45.55 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DL Amiss (ENG) [/td][td]1966-1975 [/td][td]41 [/td][td]2865 [/td][td]45.47 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CC Hunte (WI) [/td][td]1958-1967 [/td][td]44 [/td][td]3245 [/td][td]45.06 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]13 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TW Graveney (ENG) [/td][td]1954-1969 [/td][td]65 [/td][td]4144 [/td][td]45.04 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]16 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hanif Mohammad (PAK) [/td][td]1954-1969 [/td][td]50 [/td][td]3628 [/td][td]44.79 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]12 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CH Lloyd (WI) [/td][td]1966-1975 [/td][td]46 [/td][td]3342 [/td][td]44.56 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IM Chappell (AUS) [/td][td]1964-1975 [/td][td]69 [/td][td]5077 [/td][td]44.14 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]25 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MC Cowdrey (ENG) [/td][td]1954-1975 [/td][td]114 [/td][td]7624 [/td][td]44.06 [/td][td]22 [/td][td]38 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

Clive was too a great batsman , he is among the greatest captains. Like Colin Cowdrey above he too underachieved as a batsman for most part of his career.

[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Sobers (WI) [/td][td]1966-1974 [/td][td]41 [/td][td]3582 [/td][td]59.7 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]16 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Javed Miandad (PAK) [/td][td]1976-1985 [/td][td]71 [/td][td]5350 [/td][td]56.91 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]28 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IVA Richards (WI) [/td][td]1974-1985 [/td][td]77 [/td][td]5889 [/td][td]54.02 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]25 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Chappell (AUS) [/td][td]1970-1984 [/td][td]87 [/td][td]7110 [/td][td]53.86 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]31 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AR Border (AUS) [/td][td]1978-1985 [/td][td]77 [/td][td]5834 [/td][td]51.62 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]30 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SM Gavaskar (INDIA) [/td][td]1971-1985 [/td][td]111 [/td][td]9020 [/td][td]50.67 [/td][td]31 [/td][td]39 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CG Greenidge (WI) [/td][td]1974-1985 [/td][td]66 [/td][td]4816 [/td][td]49.14 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]26 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]G Boycott (ENG) [/td][td]1966-1982 [/td][td]93 [/td][td]7129 [/td][td]47.84 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]36 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KD Walters (AUS) [/td][td]1966-1981 [/td][td]72 [/td][td]5065 [/td][td]46.89 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]33 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CH Lloyd (WI) [/td][td]1966-1985 [/td][td]110 [/td][td]7515 [/td][td]46.67 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]39 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DL Amiss (ENG) [/td][td]1966-1977 [/td][td]50 [/td][td]3612 [/td][td]46.3 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]11 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RB Kanhai (WI) [/td][td]1966-1974 [/td][td]36 [/td][td]2628 [/td][td]46.1 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]13 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DI Gower (ENG) [/td][td]1978-1985 [/td][td]76 [/td][td]5385 [/td][td]45.63 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]25 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WM Lawry (AUS) [/td][td]1966-1971 [/td][td]35 [/td][td]2618 [/td][td]45.13 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]12 [/td][/tr]
[/table]
 
Colin Cowdrey retired way before i stated watching cricket , but from what i gathered he had a long career , but his average should have been bit higher.
From what i could gather from statsguru some of best players during his time performed better.

[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KF Barrington (ENG) [/td][td]1955-1968 [/td][td]82 [/td][td]6806 [/td][td]58.67 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]35 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Sobers (WI) [/td][td]1954-1974 [/td][td]93 [/td][td]8032 [/td][td]57.78 [/td][td]26 [/td][td]30 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Chappell (AUS) [/td][td]1970-1975 [/td][td]37 [/td][td]2877 [/td][td]52.3 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]13 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KD Walters (AUS) [/td][td]1965-1975 [/td][td]57 [/td][td]4141 [/td][td]48.71 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]26 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RB Simpson (AUS) [/td][td]1957-1968 [/td][td]52 [/td][td]4131 [/td][td]48.6 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]24 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]PBH May (ENG) [/td][td]1954-1961 [/td][td]58 [/td][td]4075 [/td][td]47.94 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]20 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]ER Dexter (ENG) [/td][td]1958-1968 [/td][td]62 [/td][td]4502 [/td][td]47.89 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]27 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]G Boycott (ENG) [/td][td]1964-1974 [/td][td]63 [/td][td]4579 [/td][td]47.69 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]26 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SM Nurse (WI) [/td][td]1960-1969 [/td][td]29 [/td][td]2523 [/td][td]47.6 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]10 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RB Kanhai (WI) [/td][td]1957-1974 [/td][td]79 [/td][td]6227 [/td][td]47.53 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]28 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WM Lawry (AUS) [/td][td]1961-1971 [/td][td]67 [/td][td]5234 [/td][td]47.15 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]27 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]EJ Barlow (SA) [/td][td]1961-1970 [/td][td]30 [/td][td]2516 [/td][td]45.74 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]NCL O'Neill (AUS) [/td][td]1958-1965 [/td][td]42 [/td][td]2779 [/td][td]45.55 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DL Amiss (ENG) [/td][td]1966-1975 [/td][td]41 [/td][td]2865 [/td][td]45.47 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CC Hunte (WI) [/td][td]1958-1967 [/td][td]44 [/td][td]3245 [/td][td]45.06 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]13 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TW Graveney (ENG) [/td][td]1954-1969 [/td][td]65 [/td][td]4144 [/td][td]45.04 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]16 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hanif Mohammad (PAK) [/td][td]1954-1969 [/td][td]50 [/td][td]3628 [/td][td]44.79 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]12 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CH Lloyd (WI) [/td][td]1966-1975 [/td][td]46 [/td][td]3342 [/td][td]44.56 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IM Chappell (AUS) [/td][td]1964-1975 [/td][td]69 [/td][td]5077 [/td][td]44.14 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]25 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MC Cowdrey (ENG) [/td][td]1954-1975 [/td][td]114 [/td][td]7624 [/td][td]44.06 [/td][td]22 [/td][td]38 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

Clive was too a great batsman , he is among the greatest captains. Like Colin Cowdrey above he too underachieved as a batsman for most part of his career.

[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Sobers (WI) [/td][td]1966-1974 [/td][td]41 [/td][td]3582 [/td][td]59.7 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]16 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Javed Miandad (PAK) [/td][td]1976-1985 [/td][td]71 [/td][td]5350 [/td][td]56.91 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]28 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IVA Richards (WI) [/td][td]1974-1985 [/td][td]77 [/td][td]5889 [/td][td]54.02 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]25 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Chappell (AUS) [/td][td]1970-1984 [/td][td]87 [/td][td]7110 [/td][td]53.86 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]31 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AR Border (AUS) [/td][td]1978-1985 [/td][td]77 [/td][td]5834 [/td][td]51.62 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]30 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SM Gavaskar (INDIA) [/td][td]1971-1985 [/td][td]111 [/td][td]9020 [/td][td]50.67 [/td][td]31 [/td][td]39 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CG Greenidge (WI) [/td][td]1974-1985 [/td][td]66 [/td][td]4816 [/td][td]49.14 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]26 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]G Boycott (ENG) [/td][td]1966-1982 [/td][td]93 [/td][td]7129 [/td][td]47.84 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]36 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KD Walters (AUS) [/td][td]1966-1981 [/td][td]72 [/td][td]5065 [/td][td]46.89 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]33 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CH Lloyd (WI) [/td][td]1966-1985 [/td][td]110 [/td][td]7515 [/td][td]46.67 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]39 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DL Amiss (ENG) [/td][td]1966-1977 [/td][td]50 [/td][td]3612 [/td][td]46.3 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]11 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RB Kanhai (WI) [/td][td]1966-1974 [/td][td]36 [/td][td]2628 [/td][td]46.1 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]13 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DI Gower (ENG) [/td][td]1978-1985 [/td][td]76 [/td][td]5385 [/td][td]45.63 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]25 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WM Lawry (AUS) [/td][td]1966-1971 [/td][td]35 [/td][td]2618 [/td][td]45.13 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]12 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

I mean that Cowdrey was better at no 5 .More relevant to give comparitive stats of players of that generation at no.5.I would be grateful.
 
Colin Cowdrey retired way before i stated watching cricket , but from what i gathered he had a long career , but his average should have been bit higher.
From what i could gather from statsguru some of best players during his time performed better.

[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KF Barrington (ENG) [/td][td]1955-1968 [/td][td]82 [/td][td]6806 [/td][td]58.67 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]35 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Sobers (WI) [/td][td]1954-1974 [/td][td]93 [/td][td]8032 [/td][td]57.78 [/td][td]26 [/td][td]30 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Chappell (AUS) [/td][td]1970-1975 [/td][td]37 [/td][td]2877 [/td][td]52.3 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]13 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KD Walters (AUS) [/td][td]1965-1975 [/td][td]57 [/td][td]4141 [/td][td]48.71 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]26 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RB Simpson (AUS) [/td][td]1957-1968 [/td][td]52 [/td][td]4131 [/td][td]48.6 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]24 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]PBH May (ENG) [/td][td]1954-1961 [/td][td]58 [/td][td]4075 [/td][td]47.94 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]20 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]ER Dexter (ENG) [/td][td]1958-1968 [/td][td]62 [/td][td]4502 [/td][td]47.89 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]27 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]G Boycott (ENG) [/td][td]1964-1974 [/td][td]63 [/td][td]4579 [/td][td]47.69 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]26 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SM Nurse (WI) [/td][td]1960-1969 [/td][td]29 [/td][td]2523 [/td][td]47.6 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]10 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RB Kanhai (WI) [/td][td]1957-1974 [/td][td]79 [/td][td]6227 [/td][td]47.53 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]28 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WM Lawry (AUS) [/td][td]1961-1971 [/td][td]67 [/td][td]5234 [/td][td]47.15 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]27 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]EJ Barlow (SA) [/td][td]1961-1970 [/td][td]30 [/td][td]2516 [/td][td]45.74 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]NCL O'Neill (AUS) [/td][td]1958-1965 [/td][td]42 [/td][td]2779 [/td][td]45.55 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DL Amiss (ENG) [/td][td]1966-1975 [/td][td]41 [/td][td]2865 [/td][td]45.47 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CC Hunte (WI) [/td][td]1958-1967 [/td][td]44 [/td][td]3245 [/td][td]45.06 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]13 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TW Graveney (ENG) [/td][td]1954-1969 [/td][td]65 [/td][td]4144 [/td][td]45.04 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]16 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hanif Mohammad (PAK) [/td][td]1954-1969 [/td][td]50 [/td][td]3628 [/td][td]44.79 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]12 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CH Lloyd (WI) [/td][td]1966-1975 [/td][td]46 [/td][td]3342 [/td][td]44.56 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IM Chappell (AUS) [/td][td]1964-1975 [/td][td]69 [/td][td]5077 [/td][td]44.14 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]25 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MC Cowdrey (ENG) [/td][td]1954-1975 [/td][td]114 [/td][td]7624 [/td][td]44.06 [/td][td]22 [/td][td]38 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

Clive was too a great batsman , he is among the greatest captains. Like Colin Cowdrey above he too underachieved as a batsman for most part of his career.

[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Sobers (WI) [/td][td]1966-1974 [/td][td]41 [/td][td]3582 [/td][td]59.7 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]16 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Javed Miandad (PAK) [/td][td]1976-1985 [/td][td]71 [/td][td]5350 [/td][td]56.91 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]28 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IVA Richards (WI) [/td][td]1974-1985 [/td][td]77 [/td][td]5889 [/td][td]54.02 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]25 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Chappell (AUS) [/td][td]1970-1984 [/td][td]87 [/td][td]7110 [/td][td]53.86 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]31 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AR Border (AUS) [/td][td]1978-1985 [/td][td]77 [/td][td]5834 [/td][td]51.62 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]30 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SM Gavaskar (INDIA) [/td][td]1971-1985 [/td][td]111 [/td][td]9020 [/td][td]50.67 [/td][td]31 [/td][td]39 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CG Greenidge (WI) [/td][td]1974-1985 [/td][td]66 [/td][td]4816 [/td][td]49.14 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]26 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]G Boycott (ENG) [/td][td]1966-1982 [/td][td]93 [/td][td]7129 [/td][td]47.84 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]36 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KD Walters (AUS) [/td][td]1966-1981 [/td][td]72 [/td][td]5065 [/td][td]46.89 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]33 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CH Lloyd (WI) [/td][td]1966-1985 [/td][td]110 [/td][td]7515 [/td][td]46.67 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]39 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DL Amiss (ENG) [/td][td]1966-1977 [/td][td]50 [/td][td]3612 [/td][td]46.3 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]11 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RB Kanhai (WI) [/td][td]1966-1974 [/td][td]36 [/td][td]2628 [/td][td]46.1 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]13 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DI Gower (ENG) [/td][td]1978-1985 [/td][td]76 [/td][td]5385 [/td][td]45.63 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]25 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WM Lawry (AUS) [/td][td]1966-1971 [/td][td]35 [/td][td]2618 [/td][td]45.13 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]12 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

Do give table with batting records of all these players at no 5.thanks
 
Waugh
Border
Shiv
Clarke
ABD


Agree with this. But makes me wonder why would Clarke and ABD insist on playing at 5, when they were the best bats in their side. Shiv, Waugh and Border, I understand. Shiv and Waugh were the no.2 bats in their side for a majority of their careers. Lara, in case of WI and, Border and Ponting for Aus. But Clarke, other than the first couple of years, was the best bat in his side. An only Amla comes close to ABD, that too only for a few years.
 
Agree with this. But makes me wonder why would Clarke and ABD insist on playing at 5, when they were the best bats in their side. Shiv, Waugh and Border, I understand. Shiv and Waugh were the no.2 bats in their side for a majority of their careers. Lara, in case of WI and, Border and Ponting for Aus. But Clarke, other than the first couple of years, was the best bat in his side. An only Amla comes close to ABD, that too only for a few years.


Both were good players of spin and also both might have felt more comfortable versus a softer ball. Clarke towards the end of his career did bat at 4 but wasn't really successful. ABD never moved from 5 even when Smith and Kallis retired.
 
Do give table with batting records of all these players at no 5.thanks
It will take quite bit of time to compile for each player. Instead here is a list of players that played during Colin Cowdrey's era (1954-75) at no.5 (min 500 runs)

[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CL Walcott (WI) [/td][td]1954-1960 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]998 [/td][td]66.53 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Sobers (WI) [/td][td]1955-1974 [/td][td]29 [/td][td]1895 [/td][td]59.21 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KD Walters (AUS) [/td][td]1966-1975 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]1609 [/td][td]53.63 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]10 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]FMM Worrell (WI) [/td][td]1955-1962 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]909 [/td][td]53.47 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]9 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RB Kanhai (WI) [/td][td]1958-1974 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]517 [/td][td]51.7 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]4 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]PH Parfitt (ENG) [/td][td]1962-1965 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]774 [/td][td]51.6 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]2 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KWR Fletcher (ENG) [/td][td]1969-1975 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]1570 [/td][td]50.64 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MC Cowdrey (ENG) [/td][td]1954-1970 [/td][td]42 [/td][td]2377 [/td][td]49.52 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]16 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SM Nurse (WI) [/td][td]1960-1969 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]940 [/td][td]49.47 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CH Lloyd (WI) [/td][td]1966-1975 [/td][td]21 [/td][td]1303 [/td][td]48.25 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]5 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]ER Dexter (ENG) [/td][td]1960-1964 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]867 [/td][td]48.16 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KC Bland (SA) [/td][td]1961-1966 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]995 [/td][td]47.38 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]5 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]R Edwards (AUS) [/td][td]1972-1975 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]839 [/td][td]46.61 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TW Graveney (ENG) [/td][td]1954-1968 [/td][td]17 [/td][td]829 [/td][td]46.05 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Asif Iqbal (PAK) [/td][td]1965-1975 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]548 [/td][td]45.66 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]2 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IR Redpath (AUS) [/td][td]1967-1975 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]684 [/td][td]45.6 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]5 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

Clive LLoyd's era (66-85)
[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Sobers (WI) [/td][td]1968-1974 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]927 [/td][td]71.3 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]2 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GS Chappell (AUS) [/td][td]1971-1982 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]610 [/td][td]67.77 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]5 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Javed Miandad (PAK) [/td][td]1976-1985 [/td][td]22 [/td][td]1299 [/td][td]61.85 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AR Border (AUS) [/td][td]1979-1985 [/td][td]27 [/td][td]1574 [/td][td]58.29 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Zaheer Abbas (PAK) [/td][td]1969-1985 [/td][td]35 [/td][td]2048 [/td][td]53.89 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DI Gower (ENG) [/td][td]1978-1985 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]961 [/td][td]53.38 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]3 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IT Botham (ENG) [/td][td]1982-1983 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]958 [/td][td]53.22 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]4 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DB Vengsarkar (INDIA) [/td][td]1976-1985 [/td][td]17 [/td][td]941 [/td][td]52.27 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SM Nurse (WI) [/td][td]1966-1969 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]600 [/td][td]50 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]5 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IVA Richards (WI) [/td][td]1974-1985 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]900 [/td][td]50 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]4 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mushtaq Mohammad (PAK) [/td][td]1967-1977 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]872 [/td][td]48.44 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]4 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KD Walters (AUS) [/td][td]1966-1977 [/td][td]32 [/td][td]2134 [/td][td]47.42 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]14 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KWR Fletcher (ENG) [/td][td]1969-1982 [/td][td]31 [/td][td]1774 [/td][td]46.68 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]9 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]R Edwards (AUS) [/td][td]1972-1975 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]839 [/td][td]46.61 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]8 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CH Lloyd (WI) [/td][td]1966-1984 [/td][td]54 [/td][td]3049 [/td][td]46.19 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]14 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IR Redpath (AUS) [/td][td]1967-1975 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]684 [/td][td]45.6 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]5 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Yashpal Sharma (INDIA) [/td][td]1979-1983 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]969 [/td][td]44.04 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RB Simpson (AUS) [/td][td]1977-1978 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]523 [/td][td]43.58 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]2 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]BL D'Oliveira (ENG) [/td][td]1967-1972 [/td][td]26 [/td][td]1528 [/td][td]42.44 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]9 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AJ Lamb (ENG) [/td][td]1982-1985 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]748 [/td][td]41.55 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]2 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KJ Hughes (AUS) [/td][td]1978-1984 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]1360 [/td][td]41.21 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[/table]
 
What an underrated batsman Thorpe is. He faced probably the toughest bowlers in the history of cricket in toughest conditions in a very weak team and still did so well.
 
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