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17-member Test squad announced for the series against Australia in UAE (Mohammad Amir dropped)

5 pacers in the UAE :facepalm: ? What is Inzi and Arthur thinking. Shadab and Bilal aren't even front line spinners. What does Asghar or Gohar have to do to be selected ?

No issues with the batting , would have liked to see Saud in the squad at least. But the fact there is only 1 specialist spinner in this squad makes it a poor selection again from Inzi.
 
5 pacers in the UAE :facepalm: ? What is Inzi and Arthur thinking. Shadab and Bilal aren't even front line spinners. What does Asghar or Gohar have to do to be selected ?

No issues with the batting , would have liked to see Saud in the squad at least. But the fact there is only 1 specialist spinner in this squad makes it a poor selection again from Inzi.

I still can not believe Inzi dared to select one specialist spinner only after the Lanka experience.

I't his job to work with Mickey, not to satisfy Mickey.
 
This is a sensible and decent squad. I really dont know why people are not satisfied, I am a pakistani and I know were all frustrated and disappointed in the teams performance but not the end of the world. The WC prep starts now as we have three big series coming up against decent sides. And honestly win or lose from there team will get better as they will not only learn but also lift them selves up. No matter who we select, we as a nation always will criticize and never be happy with anything. The only two inclusions I would have had in this squad to bring in more experience is Junaid khan for Mir Hamza and Mohammed Hafeez for the no.6 allrounder slot due to his bowling abilities and also recent form in domestic. However, not a bad squad still and I still think we should be able to beat Australia in UAE with this squad. My playing 11 for the Dubai test

1. Azhar Ali
2. Imam ul Haq
3. Haris Sohail
4. Asad Shafiq
5. Babar Azam
6. Faheem Ashraf( decent 3rd pacer option and can bat)
7. Sarfaraz Ahmed
8. Bilal Asif
9. Yasir Shah
10 M.Abbas
11. Wahab Riaz

I dont believe in 6 specialist batsmen, 5 can do the job with the 6th being an allrounder , cause on these flat wickets your bowlers need rest as well and you need 5 bowlers to take 20 wickets. We tried the 4 bowling combo last time against Sri Lanka and we all know what happened.
 
No Fawad again even in UAE
Amir had To be dropped
Bilal should play instead of Shadab
 
Amir probably happy he doesn't have to bowl on the dead UAE tracks lol. Good chance from to get away and do some soul-searching.

Azhar
Imam
Haris
Asad
Babar
Usman
Sarfraz
Bilal
Yasir
Wahab
Abbas

Can afford to play with 4 bowlers in UAE when two are spinners. Haris will be decent with his SLA.
Sarfraz's form is too poor for him to be batting at 6 and to get an allrounder in so better to go with 6 frontline bats.

This. Pretty good team and squad, in general. I would like to give Shadab a game but the one leggie, one offie and one SLA combo sounds good on paper.

If Sarfaraz fails during this series too, he should definitely be given a long break.
 
5 pacers in the UAE :facepalm: ? What is Inzi and Arthur thinking. Shadab and Bilal aren't even front line spinners. What does Asghar or Gohar have to do to be selected ?

No issues with the batting , would have liked to see Saud in the squad at least. But the fact there is only 1 specialist spinner in this squad makes it a poor selection again from Inzi.

What has Asghar in particular done recently to justify his place in the team. His performances since the turn of the year have been pretty poor to say the least. Gohar has done better but again nothing to say he's knocking down the door for selection. If you look at performances, then they've both been outperformed by Kashif Bhatti. Personally I don't think we should be just throwing players into the team until they justify it by being consistently the best in the country.
 
I still can not believe Inzi dared to select one specialist spinner only after the Lanka experience.

I't his job to work with Mickey, not to satisfy Mickey.

Shadab is a specialist spinner. He just happens to be a decent batsman. Why would you not play him over a couple of spinners that are just as good with the ball but inferior with the bat? Not sure about Bilal Asif but he seems to be similar to Shadab.

This is also a two-match series with Yasir Shah a lock to play both matches, barring injury. Additional spinners would only be warming the bench which helps nobody.

As for the pacers, you actually need a few so that they can be rotated if necessary. Bowling fast in the UAE is hard work.
 
The selection has been baffling - two bits and bits pieces mediocre spinners and a bits and pieces pace all-rounder, but only one specialist spinner.

I can understand Mir Hamza’s selection because you need cover for the pacers who might break down in these conditions, but Faheem should have been dropped for a specialist spinner. He offers nothing in UAE Tests.
 
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To be honest, Wahab has been more impactful compared to Amir in test matches atleast and is a more useful option in UAE with his pace and reverse swing.

I agree..he's a very good bowler...I was pointing at Mickey making random statements.
 
Shadab is a specialist spinner. He just happens to be a decent batsman. Why would you not play him over a couple of spinners that are just as good with the ball but inferior with the bat? Not sure about Bilal Asif but he seems to be similar to Shadab.

This is also a two-match series with Yasir Shah a lock to play both matches, barring injury. Additional spinners would only be warming the bench which helps nobody.

As for the pacers, you actually need a few so that they can be rotated if necessary. Bowling fast in the UAE is hard work.

Shady boy is extremely talented, but too raw for test cricket maybe not even fit enough to bowl long spells as he has shown in the Asia cup. We are being too hard on his body.

The result will be that Yasir will have to bowl 120+ overs to cover Shadab. Either Yasir will get injured or he will tire making things for the aussies easier.

UAE has phatta tracks where fast bowlers do not play a huge role. Wahab will be handy with the old ball and Abbas with the new ball, but that's it. Mickey will field 3 pacers and make things easy for the Aussies.

We haven't learnt from the SL disaster which will certainly allow the Aussies to come back if they only survive Yasir.
 
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Wrong time to select Pakistan Test squad.

Should have been selected after completion of 2 four day games of Pakistan A vs Australia.


Top performers of those matches should have been rewarded.


Rizwan's selection over Adnan and Fakhar's selection over Sami are attrocious.


Shadab is unfit and his selection in Test squad is not merited even otherwise.


Bilal asif's selection over Ashiq Ali, Asghar and Zafar is also not merited.
 
Decent-ish squad.

I think Gohar should have been selected. Kashif Bhatti could have been a good bowling option as well.
 
How has Zafar not been selected yet Bilal Asif is. Bilal is awful, when you see him play you just know that he will get torn apart. He's a hack with the bat and I don't know about his fielding.
 
Dropping Amir is probably a good decision for both him and the Pakistan team. Amir really needs to go back and re-evaluate his bowling, perhaps work with Wasim Akram or Waqar Younis in to figure out what he is doing wrong and how he can improve his bowling.

Also, the rest is great for him considering the amount of cricket that is played these days and he represents Pakistan on all three formats. I believe this bad patch couldn't have come at a better time for him as he will improve after being dropped from the side, will get the needed rest and will be our ace bowler come the world cup next year.
 
Don't understand the non selection of Junaid Khan he was the leader of the attack from 2011-2015, and bowled the best spell in the Asia cup this year, whilst he gained prodigious swing with the white ball imagine what he would have done with the shiny red kookaburra. Remember a time when we thought that Junaid and Amir would bowl in tandem 😣😣😣.
 
Good decision on dropping Amir.

Bilal Asif is a strategic selection based on how Australia's lineup will shape up (multiple left-handers). Yasir spins the ball into the left-hander while Asif gets it to go the other way.

They should have included a backup specialist spinner (Gohar/Asghar) instead of Fahim. There's no use for him in this squad considering the conditions.
 
Still feel like we've too many bits and pieces players. We don't need pace bowling ARs like Ashraf in the UAE yet retains his place when another specialist spinner would've been more effective. Shadab's bowling is not fully developed having played only a handful of FC games but keeps his place too.

I get both are long term investments, and rightly so, but we should let them continue in limited overs formats for now.

Bilal Asif makes sense given his domestic form lately and we need an offie against the Australian left handers. Recalling Wahab also makes sense given how on those flat UAE wickets you need bowlers with pace and he did well in our last Test in UAE against SL.

Dropping Amir was the right call - he needs to recover his form in domestic cricket and find his hunger for the game again.

Tactically we must return to playing 6 specialist batsmen given Sarfraz's batting form. Our batting is flimsy as it is and a batsman like Salahuddin may be suited to grinding out innings on these slow, low pitches.
 
Dropping Amir for tough series in UAE but will be brought back on pitches of SA, Australia, England and NZ.

Wahab Riaz back to do the Donkey work on dead pitches while Amir will be the first choice bowler outside Asia.

The Wonderboy treatment continues.

Amir could be back as soon as the T20 series vs Australia. However We need Wahab's reverse Swing in UAE hopefully he delivers and makes a place for himself in the side.
 
What do Zafar Gohar or Mohammad Asghar have to do to be selected? Gohar can even bat since Mickey wants an all rounder. The selection of Fahim and Mir Hamza are baffling. But out of this squad my 11 would be:

Azhar
Imam
Haris
Asad
Babar
Salahuddin
Shadab
Bilal
Wahab
Yasir
Abbas
 
What has Asghar in particular done recently to justify his place in the team. His performances since the turn of the year have been pretty poor to say the least. Gohar has done better but again nothing to say he's knocking down the door for selection. If you look at performances, then they've both been outperformed by Kashif Bhatti. Personally I don't think we should be just throwing players into the team until they justify it by being consistently the best in the country.


What has Shadab done in first class cricket to be playing as a spinner in UAE conditions? Shadab doesn't make the test team on bowling merit.
 
I still can not believe Inzi dared to select one specialist spinner only after the Lanka experience.

I't his job to work with Mickey, not to satisfy Mickey.

Disgraceful from Inzi. Yasir Shah has a big job on his hand. Don't mind Bilal Asif selection but Shadab doesn't make the team on bowling merit. Should have selected a specialist spinner.
 
What do Zafar Gohar or Mohammad Asghar have to do to be selected? Gohar can even bat since Mickey wants an all rounder. The selection of Fahim and Mir Hamza are baffling. But out of this squad my 11 would be:

Azhar
Imam
Haris
Asad
Babar
Salahuddin
Shadab
Bilal
Wahab
Yasir
Abbas

Who is the keeper/captain?
 
Surely Junaid deserves a place. Glad to see Amir omitted. He is not performing at the moment. Good to see Yasir Shah back in the team .
 
Dropping Amir for tough series in UAE but will be brought back on pitches of SA, Australia, England and NZ.

Wahab Riaz back to do the Donkey work on dead pitches while Amir will be the first choice bowler outside Asia.

The Wonderboy treatment continues.

So what exactly would have pleased you. Still selecting Amir despite his poor perfomances?
 
Good squad. Wonder how Mickey found faith in Wahab to win matches... Still can't see that genuine spinner though. Regardless, wish the boys good luck!
 
Interesting to see who gets the nod to play between Haris and Usman Salahuddin, Micky likes Harris but so far for me Harris has been an Umar Akmal 2.0 gets a start throws it away usually due to lack of fitness be it mentally and physicaly

And pakistan crickets biggest issue right now is finding an off spinner. Bilal Asif must play over Shadab
 
Interesting to see who gets the nod to play between Haris and Usman Salahuddin, Micky likes Harris but so far for me Harris has been an Umar Akmal 2.0 gets a start throws it away usually due to lack of fitness be it mentally and physicaly

And pakistan crickets biggest issue right now is finding an off spinner. Bilal Asif must play over Shadab

Haris will play - you can bet on that. Arthur likes bist & pieces spinners who can bat. He'll play 3 pacers and Shadab, Haris to share spin load from Yasir.

I genuinely hope I am wrong here.
 
Why on earth have they picked 5 pace bowlers?

Zafar Gohar absolutely deserves to be in the squad! You need two specialist spinners in the UAE, no matter what! Pakistan will still end up winning this series, Aussies will likely struggle against Bilal Asif too. Doesn't change the fact that this is a horrible squad, and will be badly exposed against New Zealand, who are a far better touring side, and better players of spin than Australia.
 
33 year old Bilal Asif with a 31.22 average in FC makes the squad. Just incredible.

Meanwhile, younger and better spinners in Asghar and Gohar are left out.

What is even the point of selecting Ashraf on the dead tracks in UAE? Considering how awful Sarfraz has been with the bat, you have to go with 7 batsmen and 2 spinners at the very least, leaving only two pacers to play and there is no way Ashraf should be one of them.

It's mind-boggling some of the squad selections and its like they get selected with no mind as to what the conditions are. Playing in New Zealand/England? Sure, select Ashraf. In UAE? What is the point? Spin is king in UAE and spin is how you win games in Asia. If Pakistan batting was deep enough, you could justify playing Ashraf as the 7th batsmen and 5th bowler but the batting has been so woeful that Pakistan would be hand-capping themselves playing with 5 batsmen + Sarfraz and 5 bowlers.
 
Yasir- 30 overs
Bilal- 20 overs
Abbas- 20 overs
Pacer #2- 20 overs

It is an odd selection. You are banking on 40 overs of pace a day, with no option to reduce it. There's no real part time spin options- Azhar Ali I suppose. Haris Sohail?

Also banking on Bilal being good enough... He's old, but he's not actually super experienced, not a large amount of games played by any measure... and it's his Test debut...

Oz will have Lyon, Holland & Head. So will have 2 specialist options + at least 1 decent part timer (I'll not include Agar yet as I don't think he'll play first Test).

If Lyon's output comes near matching Yasir's, all of a sudden Oz can pinch a game here.
 
33 year old Bilal Asif with a 31.22 average in FC makes the squad. Just incredible.

Meanwhile, younger and better spinners in Asghar and Gohar are left out.

What is even the point of selecting Ashraf on the dead tracks in UAE? Considering how awful Sarfraz has been with the bat, you have to go with 7 batsmen and 2 spinners at the very least, leaving only two pacers to play and there is no way Ashraf should be one of them.

It's mind-boggling some of the squad selections and its like they get selected with no mind as to what the conditions are. Playing in New Zealand/England? Sure, select Ashraf. In UAE? What is the point? Spin is king in UAE and spin is how you win games in Asia. If Pakistan batting was deep enough, you could justify playing Ashraf as the 7th batsmen and 5th bowler but the batting has been so woeful that Pakistan would be hand-capping themselves playing with 5 batsmen + Sarfraz and 5 bowlers.

Looking at the number of left handers in the OZ squad, it is understandable they wanted an offspinner . Although I don't know if Bilal is the best legal offspinner in Pakistan. Zafar should have been selected ahead of shadab though.
 
Haris will play - you can bet on that. Arthur likes bist & pieces spinners who can bat. He'll play 3 pacers and Shadab, Haris to share spin load from Yasir.

I genuinely hope I am wrong here.

What's your overall assessment of the squad and Mickey's apparently senseless, ignorant strategy?
 
Inzamm needs to go. As MMH said selector's job is a passionate job and unfortunately he doesn't have that. He knows name of certain group of players and keep selecting from them.

He has 2 yes men assistants who are active only one paper but not in work field. Even Inzamam is not passionate enough to see footage of promising batsmen or bowlers to select them. He was dull as a captain and now dull as a selector.
 
What's your overall assessment of the squad and Mickey's apparently senseless, ignorant strategy?

Micky is conservative type which is good for team like Bangladesh or Afghanistan or Sri Lanka who has limited sources to get the best of it.

In any country players like Tamim, Musfiq, Mashrafee, Rubel, Mahmudullah would have kicked out prior their poor performances for years but the selectors keep faith on them and now all are performing.

What we need a coach like Hature who wll dismantle the traditional senior culture and get rid of nepotism and select players based on merit and Pakistanisque suprise.
 
Looking at this squad I can't help but conclude that Mickey and Sarfaraz are planning to go with 5 bats and 5 bowlers which for me is a sure recipe for disaster (read 5 bats, 3 bowlers, and 2 bits and pieces player). If however, we persist with the 6-4 formula then this is a strange squad indeed. You only have 7 bats. Considering Imam to be a cover for the openers you don't have any cover for the middle order.

We have gone for 3 bits and pieces players in Bilal, Shadab and Faheem. There is no possibility of more than one of them being in the playing XI at the same time. Thus at least one spot in the squad has been wasted as it can be guaranteed that one of them (two, if the one selected performs) will not get a chance to play. Moreover, while I can understand to some extent the logic of picking Bilal, I just don't think he is good enough to be of much use at the test level.

It is also rather strange that we did not consider the only two bowlers (Junaid and Shaheen) who had any impact on these same pitches in the Asia Cups. Another big blunder in my opinion.

Finally, poor Saad was dropped without even getting a game. Is that how you reward the guy who was your top domestic scorer? Just cannot understand Inzamam's (Mickey's) selection policies.

I think we should've picked Shaheen and/or Junaid and Saad instead of Faheem and Hasan.
 
Pakistan should have played specialist spinners , instead of part timers like Bilal Asif and Shadab khan.
 
So Amir is dropped but the new golden boy Hassan Ali is still there?Both deserve to rot in domestics for a while.Moreover,we donot seem to have learnt a thing from the Asia cup debacle?Where are your specialist spinners?You just can't put all the burden on Yasir Shah?Ajmal used to be supported by Rehman and Shah by Zulfiqar Babar in the past.What kind of clueless people are in the selection committee now days?

Do share the stats for hassan ali's poor performance. Both for asia cup and last year
 
Ok squad.Worried more about our batting than bowling.
Lyon is one of the best offies right and he can trouble our brittle order a lot.Expect close contest.Australia is a tricky opponent always.India took them lightly and we saw what happened.
 
My change would have been:
1. Azhar Ali
2. Fakhar Zaman - Shan Masood
3. Imam Ul Haq
4. Babar Azam
5. Asad Shafiq
6. Haris Sohail - Md Hafeez
7. Usman Salahuddin
8. Sarfraz Ahmed (Captain- WK)
9. Yasir Shah
10. Shadab Khan - Raza Hasan
11. Bilal Asif
12. Muhammad Abbas
13. Hassan Ali
14. Wahab Riaz
15. Faheem Ashraf - Fawad Alam
16. Mir Hamza
17. Muhammad Rizwan (WK)
 
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This is going to be a repeat of Asia Cup disaster.

Sadly it's clear now that Mickey Arthur is clueless.

Why on earth there's no proper spinner on these dead slow low tracks apart from Yasir???

Yasir is only effective on day 4 or 5 mostly when the pitch has roughed up enough. Aussies usually have no issues with leggies if not pressurized.

Woeful selection there.

Why only Mickey? Golden boy Sarfraz also had he’s say for squad selection.
 
Pakistan pick 17 Man sqaud for 2 Test vs Australia

Amir Dropped rightly So as hes been poor in Test in UAE.

Wahab recalled :facepalm:

one or two other selections could be debated as well.
 
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The batting looks weak and once again Captain/coach will try and compensate on the axis of fahim-shadab-sarfaraz which right now doesnt provide us with much stability.

Please open with Fakhar instead of Imam!

I can see us losing to Aussies and kiwis in tests if we make feeble selections in final 11.
 
17 Member Test Squad announced for the series against Australia In UAE



Lahore- September 27, 2018: The National Selection Committee headed by Inzamam ul Haq after consultation with Captain Sarfraz Ahmed and Head Coach Mickey Arthur has announced the 17-member Test squad for the two-match Test series against Australia. “The team has been selected keeping in mind the conditions of the UAE, where Mohammad Amir has been dropped from the side and Wahab Riaz and Mir Hamza comes in the side. Three spinners Shahdab Khan, Yasir Shah and Bilal Asif have been kept in the squad keeping in view the UAE wickets. Furthermore, Rizwan Ahmed makes a comeback in the Test squad,” concludes Chief Selector Inzamam ul Haq.





Pakistan Test Team against Australia in UAE 2018

1. Azhar Ali
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Imam Ul Haq
4. Babar Azam
5. Asad Shafiq
6. Haris Sohail
7. Usman Salahuddin
8. Sarfraz Ahmed (Captain- WK)
9. Yasir Shah
10. Shadab Khan
11. Bilal Asif
12. Muhammad Abbas
13. Hassan Ali
14. Wahab Riaz
15. Faheem Ashraf
16. Mir Hamza
17. Muhammad Rizwan (WK)

Pakistan Cricket Never Learn How To Groom New Talent Saad Ali Is Sidelined After Not Giving Chance
Sadaf Is Great Bowler We Need Him Like M Abbas
 
Shady boy is extremely talented, but too raw for test cricket maybe not even fit enough to bowl long spells as he has shown in the Asia cup. We are being too hard on his body.

The result will be that Yasir will have to bowl 120+ overs to cover Shadab. Either Yasir will get injured or he will tire making things for the aussies easier.

UAE has phatta tracks where fast bowlers do not play a huge role. Wahab will be handy with the old ball and Abbas with the new ball, but that's it. Mickey will field 3 pacers and make things easy for the Aussies.

We haven't learnt from the SL disaster which will certainly allow the Aussies to come back if they only survive Yasir.

Shadab is a pretty established member of the team now. Besides, we need him to start performing in tests and a series against Australia in the UAE is not a tough ask. Shadab can definitely be expected to bowl 20-25 overs a day; he is not a fast bowler afterall.

Speaking of fast bowlers, the fact that the UAE conditions are so terrible for fast bowling is why we need four pace bowlers + a pace bowling all-rounder. We might need to rotate these guys around during the series which should not be the case with the spinners. Barring an injury, the same two spinners will play both matches so there was no point in having more than three in the squad. Especially with Haris Sohail also capable of bowling some overs.

Bilal should be able to get on top of their left-handed bats while Yasir takes out the right-handers. With Abbas and Riaz making use of conventional and reverse swing, the Aussies will not have a good time in the desert, especially without their two best bats.
 
Fawad should not be selected until his fans stop crying about his non-selection.
 
Would have been better to pick one more specialist spinner instead of a pacer. Needs to learn quickly as last time in UAE against SL we selected fast bowlers. UAE must see us playing two specialist spinners all the time.
Junaid Khan should have been there as well.
 
Do share the stats for hassan ali's poor performance. Both for asia cup and last year

Do you have any recent performances in memory of Mr.Hassan winning Pakistan a match or taking a 4fer at least?And don't even bring the Asia cup.If thats how your best fast bowler will perform against the top sides,then certainly there is some issue with him. :)
 
Wahab can bowl 150 kmph

He isn't a prolific wicket taker and he gives away more runs than just about anyone else. Junaid is part of the international set up, just played really well and deserves a recall.

No idea how a guy who was being described as not fit enough, too old and not good enough by the same staff that are nw supposed to take him in can be a success. Terrible decision.
 
If the selectors can't realize you need spinners here in UAE don't know what we can do. Dropping amir is a good step and will enable him to work harder for his place back. But we should have selected a left arm spinner in gohar or raza hasan. Remember how Babar ran through the Aussies when the last visited?
 
PAK should look to build a team for SA series..

Azhar
Imam
Asad
Saud
Babar
Sarfraz + *
Shadab
Bilal (Amir for SA)
Yasir (Shaheen for SA)
Hassan
Abbas
 
5 pacers in the UAE :facepalm: ? What is Inzi and Arthur thinking. Shadab and Bilal aren't even front line spinners. What does Asghar or Gohar have to do to be selected ?

No issues with the batting , would have liked to see Saud in the squad at least. But the fact there is only 1 specialist spinner in this squad makes it a poor selection again from Inzi.

Why are we not playing any proper spinner who just bowls spin without considerig his batting ability
Any one new like abdur Rehman zulfiqar babar etc
 
Why are we not playing any proper spinner who just bowls spin without considerig his batting ability
Any one new like abdur Rehman zulfiqar babar etc


I think Mickey wants his spinners to be able to offer something with the bat.

I don't understand why Inzi refuses to include another specialist spinner. The fact it's been done more than once makes me think it's something political against the spinners performing in domestic cricket.
 
Kashif Bhatti playing so well in both First class and List A yet not picked. What edges Billak Asif ahead of Kashif?

Plus does Khurram deserve a chance in Test? He has always been among top scorers in domestic.
 
Haris will play - you can bet on that. Arthur likes bist & pieces spinners who can bat. He'll play 3 pacers and Shadab, Haris to share spin load from Yasir.

I genuinely hope I am wrong here.

Its a wrong choice.

I would have gone with two pacers and two specialist spinners. Junaid Khan , Md Abbas and two spinners . Plus harris and Azhar as Part timer.
 
Bilal Asif proves take domestic stats with a pinch of salt. Some cricketers are late developers like Bilal
 
Wish we call up Kashif Bhatti and play him in second test in place of Wahab. Great believer in playing inform players. We are anyways sending back Usman, Fakhar and Rizwan after this test so we will have place for player.

Go with Abbas and 3 spinners, Yasir, Bilal and Lashif, in 2nd test.
 
Hafeez - Scores a century.
Haris - Scores a century.
Bilal - Takes a six-fer.

The three controversial selections repay Inzamam's faith setting Pakistan up for victory.
 
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