2019 World Cup: Early predictions for Pakistan matches

[umerz]

Just win 5 of the 9 matches and reach SF

 

[saeedhk]

An early exit is on the cards. Pakistan may fluke and win one or two matches.

 

[Mueez]

PAK v AUS: Australia
PAK v WI: Pakistan
PAK v AFG: Pakistan
PAK v BAN: Pakistan
PAK v SL: Pakistan
PAK v SA: Pakistan
PAK v IND: India
PAK v NZL: New Zealand
PAK v ENG: Pakistan

My prediction about Pakistan’s matches in WC...

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

PAK v AUS: Australia
PAK v WI: Pakistan
PAK v AFG: Pakistan
PAK v BAN: Pakistan
PAK v SL: Pakistan
PAK v SA: Pakistan
PAK v IND: India
PAK v NZL: New Zealand
PAK v ENG: Pakistan

My prediction about Pakistan’s matches in WC...

Hmm 6/9 win and we are going to semis

 

[Mueez]

Hmm 6/9 win and we are going to semis

IA!

Pakistan is a tournament team and it should up its game and I believe Pak will up their game.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Now, it's time - WC nazdig. This is PAK's schedule (with venue, which is important)

1. WIN - Nottingham (D)
2. ENG -Nottingham (D)
3. SRL - Bristol (D)
4. AUS - Taunton (D)
5. IND - Manchester (D)
6. SAF - London (Oval ?) (D)
7. NZL - Birmingham (D)
8. AFG - Leeds (D)
9. BND - London (Lord's ?) (D/N)

This thread was opened just about a year back - no, what PP thinks?

None are DN. We play SA at Lord’s

 

[barah_admi]

1. WI - Nottingham Loss
2. ENG -Nottingham Loss
3. SRL - Bristol Win
4. AUS - Taunton Loss
5. IND - Manchester Loss
6. SAF - Lord's Win
7. NZL - Birmingham Loss
8. AFG - Leeds Win
9. BND - Lord's Win

My predictions based on the schedule, and thus chances of qualifying -

I think Pakistan lose the first two games, leading to a must win against SL which they should, with losses to Aus and India to follow.

Another must win against SA, which I also think they will as Pakistan have a great tournament record against them.

The match v NZ all of a sudden becomes the most important for the tournament and I think it is potentially 50/50 but have picked NZ to win. If they somehow pull it off and beat Afg and Bang along the way, it means they may scrape into a semi final slot.

If they don't then 4 wins is not enough, unless points are gathered due to rain.

 

[Hasan123]

I hope posters don't make the mistake of thinking West Indies will be a walk over game. They have beaten us black and blue in the last few ICC tournament games we have played. Also if it's a flat batting pitch, their batsmen will have fun. Remember they challenged India in India and drew a series with England

 

[Ronaldo7]

I hope posters don't make the mistake of thinking West Indies will be a walk over game. They have beaten us black and blue in the last few ICC tournament games we have played. Also if it's a flat batting pitch, their batsmen will have fun. Remember they challenged India in India and drew a series with England

Don't think people are disregarding wi after last world cup's humiliation.

 

[Ronaldo7]

[MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION] using your layout, thanks.

PAK v AUS: Australia
PAK v WI: Pakistan
PAK v AFG: Pakistan
PAK v BAN: Pakistan
PAK v SL: Pakistan
PAK v SA: Pakistan
PAK v IND: Pakistan
PAK v NZL: Pakistan
PAK v ENG: England

7 out of 9 and we're going to the semis and we'll face New zealand and then England in the final. Replica of 1992 and we all know what happened in the final...

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

Pak vs Aus : Australia
Pak vs Wi : Windies
Pak vs Afg : Pakistan
pak vs ban : Pakistan ( I would say 50-50 )
Pak vs SL : Pakistan
Pak vs S.A : Pakistan
Pak vs India : India (Dhawan to hit century)
Pak vs Nzl : New Zealand ( Williamson to hit century)
Pak vs Eng : England ( Buttler will be the difference in two teams)

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Now, it's time - WC nazdig. This is PAK's schedule (with venue, which is important)

1. WIN - Nottingham (D)
2. ENG -Nottingham (D)
3. SRL - Bristol (D)
4. AUS - Taunton (D)
5. IND - Manchester (D)
6. SAF - London (Oval ?) (D)
7. NZL - Birmingham (D)
8. AFG - Leeds (D)
9. BND - London (Lord's ?) (D/N)

This thread was opened just about a year back - no, what PP thinks?

Only two matches in London. That's not good for Pakistan.

The games in Nottingham and Manchester could prove to be difficult if we lose the toss. Green tracks could undo Pak batting first.

 

[Hasan123]

Only two matches in London. That's not good for Pakistan.

The games in Nottingham and Manchester could prove to be difficult if we lose the toss. Green tracks could undo Pak batting first.

As a UK resident, last summer was ridiculously hot. It's expected to be the same this year. So not sure how much support seam bowlers will get.

 

[Sajjad-007]

Too much optimism is not good. Ground realities matter. How can you say Pak wins agianst Ind and NZ? We got thrashed by India in Asia Cup without Kohli and NZ whitewashed us 5-0.

Lets See. Hope for the best.

 

[shokz1408]

Taking into consideration our odi performances in the last few months..

Pak wins V SL, Bangla, Afghan, West Indies, England, SA.
Pak loses v Aus, NZ, Ind.

 

[saeedhk]

Taking into consideration our odi performances in the last few months..

Pak wins V SL, Bangla, Afghan, West Indies, England, SA.
Pak loses v Aus, NZ, Ind.

So, you think based on recent form, Pak beats WI, Eng and SA? That's a lot of optimism there. WI thrashed us in WC 2015. SA beat us 3-2. And Aus just whitewashed us.
Also, Bangladesh beat us in our home and we barely won agianst Afgh.

 

[Mueez]

[MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION] using your layout, thanks.

PAK v AUS: Australia
PAK v WI: Pakistan
PAK v AFG: Pakistan
PAK v BAN: Pakistan
PAK v SL: Pakistan
PAK v SA: Pakistan
PAK v IND: Pakistan
PAK v NZL: Pakistan
PAK v ENG: England

7 out of 9 and we're going to the semis and we'll face New zealand and then England in the final. Replica of 1992 and we all know what happened in the final...

No problem!

I see what you did there

I really hope we win 7/9 matches and it is pretty much possible after we lose our first match against Aus, it can provide the much needed ‘kick in the ***’ for Pakistan.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Why don’t people post the correct order of games?

WI
England
SL
Australia
India
SA
NZ
Afghanistan
Bangladesh

West Indies is such a crucial match to start off with. We should be ready for the game but so will they due to warmups in Ireland.

We will have played at Trent Bridge beforehand.

We should be settled after our first 5 games, and hopefully can win our last 4 games.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Only two matches in London. That's not good for Pakistan.

The games in Nottingham and Manchester could prove to be difficult if we lose the toss. Green tracks could undo Pak batting first.

ICC will produce grassless tracks

 

[Ronaldo7]

No problem!

I see what you did there

I really hope we win 7/9 matches and it is pretty much possible after we lose our first match against Aus, it can provide the much needed ‘kick in the ***’ for Pakistan.

The match against Aus is actually our fourth match

 

[Titan24]

So, you think based on recent form, Pak beats WI, Eng and SA? That's a lot of optimism there. WI thrashed us in WC 2015. SA beat us 3-2. And Aus just whitewashed us.
Also, Bangladesh beat us in our home and we barely won agianst Afgh.

What was the form we were carrying before CT 17?

Australia’s whitewash? When was the last time a team rested 7-10 players against an opposition as strong as Australia? Yes we lost badly but then teams cant win without 2-4 of their main players let alone almost full playing 11. That shouldnt be an indication of anything in my opinion.

Everyday is a new day in cricket, dont remember Pakistan having super hot form before any of the tournuments they have won.

 

[Mueez]

The match against Aus is actually our fourth match

Oh my bad!

Pak is lucky to face the toughest opposition in the first five matches and in the last four matches they should not lose unnecessary points.

Imo last four matches will decide the fate of Pakistan in the WC.

 

[shokz1408]

So, you think based on recent form, Pak beats WI, Eng and SA? That's a lot of optimism there. WI thrashed us in WC 2015. SA beat us 3-2. And Aus just whitewashed us.
Also, Bangladesh beat us in our home and we barely won agianst Afgh.

I am quite confident we will beat West Indies ( although they did surprise us in the 2015 WC when a win was expected, but lightning won't strike twice, surely). I think we will beat England, however out of the 3, if we lose a match it will probably be v them.We did lose to SA, however we beat them twice in their home, with only one game to seperate us, and we also beat them in the CT when I believe they were undefeated. I think we will have their number come this world cup.

The ones I can see us losing are Aus, NZ and Ind. Worst case scenario add SA and/or Eng to that list. We should beat Afghan, Bangla, Sri Lanka, West Indies, and we will need too win those, to have any chance of qualifying.


I think come the big stage the players will perform again in conditions they thrived in at the champions trophy.

 

[Markhor]

Only two matches in London. That's not good for Pakistan.

The games in Nottingham and Manchester could prove to be difficult if we lose the toss. Green tracks could undo Pak batting first.

There won't be green tracks in Nottingham amd Manchester.

Trent Bridge pitches for ODI cricket have been roads and you have a boundary on one side that's smaller than the other leading to huge scores.

 

[Hasan123]

I can see us beating South Africa ( this is due to us seeing to have the better of them in ICC tournaments and not because we are a better side), Sri Lanka ,Bangladesh,and Afghanistan.
.

I would be lying if I said I am confident we would beat any other teams .

 

[Markhor]

Beat WI, AFG, BAN, SRL and NZL.

Lose to ENG, AUS, SAF and IND.

 

[Markhor]

I can see us beating South Africa ( this is due to us seeing to have the better of them in ICC tournaments and not because we are a better side), Sri Lanka ,Bangladesh,and Afghanistan.
.

I would be lying if I said I am confident we would beat any other teams .

I'm worried if we're put into bat first against SAF's and NZL's seamers in a 10:30AM start at Lord's.

Teams batting first have often struggled with early morning starts at Lord's.

 

[Hasan123]

I'm worried if we're put into bat first against SAF's and NZL's seamers in a 10:30AM start at Lord's.

Teams batting first have often struggled with early morning starts at Lord's.

It's expected to be a hot summer. Also I think the pitches will be flat.

 

[light]

So, you think based on recent form, Pak beats WI, Eng and SA? That's a lot of optimism there. WI thrashed us in WC 2015. SA beat us 3-2. And Aus just whitewashed us.
Also, Bangladesh beat us in our home and we barely won agianst Afgh.

WI 2015 match should not matter for a 2019 match tbh. 4 years can change a team completely. However, WI is no walk in the park. Russell and Gayle seems to be in some godly form. Also suprised to see the confidence of people vs SL/AFG/BAN. Team SL should never be taken lightly, also team AFG and BAN are no walk in the park either (Ban more than Afg).

 

[Bigbb]

It's expected to be a hot summer. Also I think the pitches will be flat.

It was a hot summer during ct17 as well. But still we've got a couple of games rained off and a few others cut short ( Pak vs SAF ) .
You can never predict weather in England. One minute it can be baking hot and the next minute it pours like anything esp in northern regions. I'd not be surprised if our games in Bristol and Taunton get regular rain interruptions.

 

[Bigbb]

WI 2015 match should not matter for a 2019 match tbh. 4 years can change a team completely. However, WI is no walk in the park. Russell and Gayle seems to be in some godly form. Also suprised to see the confidence of people vs SL/AFG/BAN. Team SL should never be taken lightly, also team AFG and BAN are no walk in the park either (Ban more than Afg).

Agreed but in UK conditions, Pak is miles better than all other Asian teams bar India.
SL, AFG and BAN just don't have the bowlers to challenge our batsmen and the likes of Hasan, Shaheen etc are too good for their batters.

 

[MMHS]

I can see us beating South Africa ( this is due to us seeing to have the better of them in ICC tournaments and not because we are a better side), Sri Lanka ,Bangladesh,and Afghanistan.
.

I would be lying if I said I am confident we would beat any other teams .

How? Since 1992, SAF have won every ICC games against PAK, barring the last 2. The first one might be a bit rain affected (so was PAK's last one, but the equation was much easier), otherwise in WC SAF won in 1996 at Karachi & in 1999. In CT, they won in 2006 (quite comfortably), and 2013 CT as well. This is definitely not their old team (s), but neither PAK's.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I wouldn't write off West Indies.

If the horrible WI turns up, Pakistan can thrash them black and blue.

But if the super charged Windies turns up, Pakistan will be left red faced.

 

[light]

Agreed but in UK conditions, Pak is miles better than all other Asian teams bar India.
SL, AFG and BAN just don't have the bowlers to challenge our batsmen and the likes of Hasan, Shaheen etc are too good for their batters.

You do realize your batsmen are on par/tad bit above (perhaps) with both BD and SL at this point. Bowler wise, you have a point and case. Hell even we are not even that confident. Take Rohit, Dahwan and Virat out, we are sitting ducks aswell.

 

[Hasan123]

How? Since 1992, SAF have won every ICC games against PAK, barring the last 2. The first one might be a bit rain affected (so was PAK's last one, but the equation was much easier), otherwise in WC SAF won in 1996 at Karachi & in 1999. In CT, they won in 2006 (quite comfortably), and 2013 CT as well. This is definitely not their old team (s), but neither PAK's.

We have also beaten them in World T20s as well. That’s where my optimism comes from. I am 1 of the few who thinks South Africa can get to the final 4.

 

[Ronaldo7]

You do realize your batsmen are on par/tad bit above (perhaps) with both BD and SL at this point. Bowler wise, you have a point and case. Hell even we are not even that confident. Take Rohit, Dahwan and Virat out, we are sitting ducks aswell.

We all saw how Sl performed against sa especially their batting. We're definitely better than Sl and Ban in the batting perspective.

 

[Ronaldo7]

WI 2015 match should not matter for a 2019 match tbh. 4 years can change a team completely. However, WI is no walk in the park. Russell and Gayle seems to be in some godly form. Also suprised to see the confidence of people vs SL/AFG/BAN. Team SL should never be taken lightly, also team AFG and BAN are no walk in the park either (Ban more than Afg).

Don't think anyone is taking Sl lightly. People are taking Ban and Afg lightly and rightly so. Afg is no strong enough to beat pak in eng and Ban isn't either.

 

[light]

We all saw how Sl performed against sa especially their batting. We're definitely better than Sl and Ban in the batting perspective.

Being patriotic is perfectly fine, but being blind leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Being patriotic is perfectly fine, but being blind leaves a lot to be desired.

I'm not being biased. This is the truth. Fine, why do you think Ban and SL have better batting than us?

 

[criclove34]

New Zealand first ever WC...

 

[giri26]

Since this is play all the teams format and only with 10 teams, it is a difficult format to succeed. The lowest points out of the 4 semifinalists in the 1992 WC was Pakistan with 9 points. That included just 4 wins and 1 NR from the 8 matches they played. The biggest disadvantage in this format is that there is no weak teams. So going by that you at least need 10 points in order to make the semis. 9 teams out of the 10 playing have the capability to do that. Even though Afghanistan have been brilliant, I don't think they have the experience at the moment to win 5 games in a World Tournament.

 

[light]

I'm not being biased. This is the truth. Fine, why do you think Ban and SL have better batting than us?

If you read my original post, you know that I never stated that. Never said that either of the two teams batsmen are above Pak's batting. Let's say I want to be very patriotic, I can sit here and tell you guys that India is a batting Powerhouse, but deep down inside we know that's not true (mostly due to selection issues). We have a huge weakspot, no shame in admitting it. Our batting is basically 3 man show atm.

Just like our team, your team + SL + BD are very dependent on couple of players to score runs. If those player fails, runs are pretty much hard to come by. But your argument I belive was that in English conditions, Paks batting is miles ahead? How did you come to that logic? I remember the same statements were being thrown around during the asia cup, yet Pak batsmen did quite poorly against these teams. The ones that did score, avg/poor SR. So how are these same batsmens going to be miles ahead of these two teams in a different alien condition?

 

[The_Odd_One]

Total 4 wins out of which 3 will come from BD, SL, WI, and AFG. One more win will come from a fluke against big boys.

 

[Chokli]

Since this is play all the teams format and only with 10 teams, it is a difficult format to succeed. The lowest points out of the 4 semifinalists in the 1992 WC was Pakistan with 9 points. That included just 4 wins and 1 NR from the 8 matches they played. The biggest disadvantage in this format is that there is no weak teams. So going by that you at least need 10 points in order to make the semis. 9 teams out of the 10 playing have the capability to do that. Even though Afghanistan have been brilliant, I don't think they have the experience at the moment to win 5 games in a World Tournament.

Which is exactly why this format is the best.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

wins against WI,SA,AUS
losses against NZ,ENG

2 Wins out of four against IND,BAN,SL and AFG

I have a feeling we might win against IND but lose to one of the other three asian teams.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Pakistan has the capability to beat any team, if they play the right XI. I won't be surprised if we win all our games, as each team has some weakness which we can exploit.

 

[HGhazanfar]

Pak vs Aus- Pak will lose
Pak vs WI - Pak will win
Pak vs Afg- Pak will win
Pak vs Ban- Pak will win
Pak vs Sl - Pak will win
Pak vs Sa- Pak will win
Pak vs Ind- Pak will win
Pak vs Nz- Pak will lose
Pak vs Eng-Pak will win

 

[giri26]

Pakistan has the capability to beat any team, if they play the right XI. I won't be surprised if we win all our games, as each team has some weakness which we can exploit.

That is true for all the teams playing the World Cup.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

That is true for all the teams playing the World Cup.

How? Do Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Srilanka have the capability to beat England or Australia?

Pakistan in England is a different team, who can defeat any opposition. I am not sure many other teams can do that.

 

[giri26]

How? Do Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Srilanka have the capability to beat England or Australia?

Pakistan in England is a different team, who can defeat any opposition. I am not sure many other teams can do that.

Yes they can. Did we not see Scotland beating England, Sri Lanka beating India etc? Anything can happen in the World cup. But my comments were geared towards the top 8 teams. Any of the top 8 teams can do what you suggested if they pick the right side. All teams have weakness which can be exploited. In this age of video analysis and stuff, every team is aware of opponents weakness. It is not isolated to Pakistan. Your statement suggests that only Pakistan can exploit the weaknesses of the opposition if they get their XI right. That is not true.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Yes they can. Did we not see Scotland beating England, Sri Lanka beating India etc? Anything can happen in the World cup. But my comments were geared towards the top 8 teams. Any of the top 8 teams can do what you suggested if they pick the right side. All teams have weakness which can be exploited. In this age of video analysis and stuff, every team is aware of opponents weakness. It is not isolated to Pakistan. Your statement suggests that only Pakistan can exploit the weaknesses of the opposition if they get their XI right. That is not true.

All teams have weaknesses and you can watch videos to analysis those and I am sure Zimbabwe also does and so does Kenya, but only some teams have the players who can actually implement them on the field.

 

[giri26]

All teams have weaknesses and you can watch videos to analysis those and I am sure Zimbabwe also does and so does Kenya, but only some teams have the players who can actually implement them on the field.

That obviously is only Pakistan because teams like India, Australia, England, New Zealand and South Africa clearly don't have the talent to take advantage of the weaknesses of the opposition which only Pakistan has. I get it now.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Yes they can. Did we not see Scotland beating England, Sri Lanka beating India etc? Anything can happen in the World cup. But my comments were geared towards the top 8 teams. Any of the top 8 teams can do what you suggested if they pick the right side. All teams have weakness which can be exploited. In this age of video analysis and stuff, every team is aware of opponents weakness. It is not isolated to Pakistan. Your statement suggests that only Pakistan can exploit the weaknesses of the opposition if they get their XI right. That is not true.

He's talking about realistic chances. Not a win that happens once in 10 years. Let's put it like this:

If pak beats eng, will people be shocked?
If ban/afg beat eng, will people be shocked?

The answer to these two questions tell you what he's trying to say.

 

[aloo paratha]

Pak vs WI - win
Pak vs Eng -win
Pak vs SL - win
Pak vs Aus - loss
Pak vs Ind - loss
Pak vs SA - win
Pak vs NZ - loss
Pak vs Afg - win
Pak vs Ban - win

Games against the big boys can go either way, WI, SL, Afg and Ban shouldn't be too hard.

 

[Ronaldo7]

I predict that Pakistan are going to win 7/9 matches.
2 matches which they'll lose will be against Aus and Eng.

 

[giri26]

He's talking about realistic chances. Not a win that happens once in 10 years. Let's put it like this:

If pak beats eng, will people be shocked?
If ban/afg beat eng, will people be shocked?

The answer to these two questions tell you what he's trying to say.

I understand what he is trying to say, I am just saying that the top 8 teams in the competition have the same chance as Pakistan has. Him saying that Pakistan is the only team who when they get their selection right can take advantage of the oppositions weakness which I am not on board with.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

That obviously is only Pakistan because teams like India, Australia, England, New Zealand and South Africa clearly don't have the talent to take advantage of the weaknesses of the opposition which only Pakistan has. I get it now.

After regularly repeating that all Top 8 teams have the ability to do what Pakistan can, now you have removed 2 teams from that list, I am pretty sure you didn't get it.

When and where did I say these teams don't have the chance to win all games, due to lack of talent or videos? I am a Pakistani and was only talking about my team's chances, don't care what other can or can't do. So please stop bringing other teams into this discussion, or go reply someone else.

Basically, what I said in my first post was that Pakistan is a good enough team, especially in England who can't be underestimated and has the capability to win all games, being one of the favourites for the tournament. Just for fun, which team triumphed last time here, England, India, Australia, South Africa or New Zealand?

 

[passionatelypakistani]

vs Windies - lose
vs England - lose
vs Lanka - win
vs Aus - lose
vs India - lose
vs Saffa - win
vs Zealand - lose
vs Afg - win
vs Bdesh - win

 

[Afhan Ali]

vs WI win
vs Eng loss
Vs Ind 2 points ( India will not play us )
Vs Aus loss
Vs Nz win
Vs Sa loss
Vs Sl win
Vs Ban win
Vs Afg win