2023 World Cup : Formal welcome to Pakistan team and all the 1st time travelers

[MenInG]

Guys

Please keep conversations related to cricket/experience only.

Thanks

 

[hassan918]

Babar Azam was asked this question earlier today in the press conference before leaving for India for the World Cup 2023.

Q: How much will the team miss Pakistan fans in the stadium?

BA: "Unfortunately, we will be missing the fans. However, as far as I know, the games are all sold out so we will be playing in jam-packed stadiums. Although our fans will not be there, I know they will make sure their love is heard on social media. I have heard that the fans in India also show their love, although I have not experienced that as of yet but I am excited to play in India as well."

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pakistan team has landed in Hyderabad.

Good luck to them.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I mentioned it in another post in this thread. Ahmedabad can vary a lot. I think when Windies toured and played there , it was a hard batting deck - slow and heavy lengths were hard to hit.

But those who watch IPL a lot tell me it's a flat belter .

There's significant variance within a venue. Bangalore is usually flat. But when England played a T20I in 2016/17, I did see a rogue turner.

And it was quick turn too.


There are some basic characteristics that don't change. Bangalore wickets are rarely slow and have decent bounce and Chennai has slower and lower wickets etc.


But as I alluded to in an earlier post - what is key to winning in India is to NOT play one-paced cricket.

If you watched the Indore ODI yesterday, the conditions change very rapidly. In the 2nd innings , initially Prasidh found exaggerated movement and bounce, then the batters were able to play their strokes, then the ball turned for a while and then there was a period when batting was so easy that Abbot and Hazlewood were able to blast every bowler with ridiculous ease. Then the ball started gripping again. All in amatter of 30 overs.

The game moves very quickly in India and the team that gets on top of these changes will always be ahead. Watch Shubman and Iyer bat. They did it perfectly. They attacked the hell out of the ball after the initial swing stopped, then rotated and knuckled down when it started gripping . Then the lower order attacked the softer ball.


Chennai is a consistent wicket. You bat first and then it gets progressively harder. Most wickets and conditions are not like that in India. Teams will have to identify 5 over periods where they have to attack, defend, rotate etc.

If you have watched ODI's in Lahore and Rawalpindi on fresh surfaces, the ball grips a touch during the hot afternoon and then comes on better and gets progressively easier to bat with hardly any movement throughout both innings and barely any bounce. The conditions don't change anywhere near as fast as it does in Indian ODI's. You can bat with the same template for longer periods comfortably.


In Karachi, when there is no dew, it consistently and progressively gets slower and lower and the ball starts turning early. But once again, the conditions, don't change so sharply.

Don't be fooled by a 350 chase in Lahore by comparing it with a 350 chase in, say, Hyderabad. They are achieved in complete different ways.

Once again, Indian conditions and wicket kept changing and NZ kept right on top of them.

Bowling the full length led to an economy of 10.45 and Matt Henry pulled his length back quickly and dug into the surface and stifled England.

Santner usually operates above 88 kph but today he slowed it down to 83 kph and below and looked to attack instead of being a defensive spinner.


Once the dew came in, Ravindra and Conway smashed their way to a high NRR and damaged a dangerous rival's NRR at the same time.

England continued to place one-paced cricket (Woakes continuously pitching full and allowing batters to settle, batsmen looking to force the ball instead of using timing) and got smashed.

You simply can't Bazball your way for 50 overs like a typical TB track or play that slow methodical style that you do while batting in Lahore.

Gotta keep adapting continuosly to the rapidly(relative to other countries ) changing conditions or you're finished.

 

[W63L35]

I did not want to create a new thread just for this piece of information... interesting stats.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I hope the greens are liking playing on Bharat soil.

Already Rizwan, Saud and the bowlers have made their mark and have started their legacy in Bharat.

Hope the hospitality is up to the mark.

@MenInG @Saj bhai can probably shed light on this more.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I did not want to create a new thread just for this piece of information... interesting stats.


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Great to see you back brother.

I saw Eoin Morgan whinging about England travelling the worst in this World Cup but going by your report it seems the host nation is travelling the worst and we have not yet heard anyone from BCT throw a major tantrum about it.


Pakistan is actually travelling light and that could be an advantage.

 

[MenInG]

To be honest, this thread is nothing but an affront to many thousands who love this game.

Putting garlands on Pakistan cricketers is not going to cut it for India as a welcoming country

Pakistan team should actually comeback now for the treatment given to their fans.

Shameful, disgusting and unforgiveable.

 

[Bhaijaan]

To be honest, this thread is nothing but an affront to many thousands who love this game.

Putting garlands on Pakistan cricketers is not going to cut it for India as a welcoming country

Pakistan team should actually comeback now for the treatment given to their fans.

Shameful, disgusting and unforgiveable.

We hope that the fans and journalists will get visa soon.

All will be fine.
There is always a more than usual waiting time for Pakistan nationals for Bharat VISA. We all know the reasons for that, and they need not be discussed here.

 

[cricketjoshila]

To be honest, this thread is nothing but an affront to many thousands who love this game.

Putting garlands on Pakistan cricketers is not going to cut it for India as a welcoming country

Pakistan team should actually comeback now for the treatment given to their fans.

Shameful, disgusting and unforgiveable.

It was always going an unfortunate scenario.

The hostile relationship between the two countries mean visas will be extremely difficult.

India isn't trying to give visas to many pakistanis that's the official stance. And don't think it will change under any circumstance.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Wishing the greens well in winning their next match vs Lankans

 

[Bhaijaan]

Babar Azam is enjoying his stay in Bharat it seems

 

[Bhaijaan]

Every game that Pakistan plays in Bharat, you get the feeling that they’re the home team.

Such is their connection to this soul, being formerly belonging to the same nation.

Karan-Arjun relationship

 

[Bhaijaan]

I just realised that the overwhelming majority of the Pakistan cricket team has never ever played in Bharat.

This is quite unreal to be honest.

It’s shocking, sad and somewhat exciting as well keeping in mind the things they can potentially deliver on this historic tour .

Keeping in mind the above, as a senior poster from Bharat on this forum, I would like to whole heartfelt welcome the entire Pakistan contingent to our country and from the bottom of my heart i wish you have a great World Cup (for as long as that doesn’t mean that you would outdo us).

Your ex cricketers have done wonders on this soil. I hope you will take inspiration from their heroics.

Posting some memorable photos here to remind some great memories on our soil.

Wishing Babar all the best in particular. On our pitches he should score heavily and be among the highest run getters in the tournament.

Fakhar Zaman can potentially light up our stadiums.

Shaheen Shah Afridi can recreate Wasim Akram, Shoaib Akhtar magic.

Overall as a genuine fan of the game, I am extremely excited to see the greens on our stadium and will surely follow every game with great enthusiasm. I hope we can celebrate a lot of wins here.

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I told you so.
There were many chapters to be written about Pakistan’s tour of Bharat.

Pakistanis have a relationship with this soil that they do not openly admit but blood runs deeper than blade. This soil will always recognize Pakistanis as formerly Bharatiyas.

Whenever Pakistan cricket team plays in Bharat, special things happen and I’m glad in this World Cup also e have had many great stories to remember for ever.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I told you so.
There were many chapters to be written about Pakistan’s tour of Bharat.

Pakistanis have a relationship with this soil that they do not openly admit but blood runs deeper than blade. This soil will always recognize Pakistanis as formerly Bharatiyas.

Whenever Pakistan cricket team plays in Bharat, special things happen and I’m glad in this World Cup also e have had many great stories to remember for ever.

Even the weather in Bharat is allowing the former Bharatiyas every opportunity to qualify for semis despite their obvious lack of talent and flair

 

[Bhaijaan]

Even the weather in Bharat is allowing the former Bharatiyas every opportunity to qualify for semis despite their obvious lack of talent and flair

Another would always be mother.
A like drawn on the map can’t change qudrat ka nizam

 

[Bhaijaan]

The memories will last forever no matter what.