8.34 Lakh Say Goodbye India: The Only Solution?

Wrong cookie or wrong thread .

Have a guess ? Before the biscuit become stale , within modis office term , 100 years or 1000 years ? How long until India is no longer 3rd world?
You asked why India is not able to become prosperous like it was during hindu rules in the past, despite having a hindu rule.
You will get the answer once you ask yourself ( or your elders if you are unable to find the answer) that why muslims haven't been able to recreate the Islamic Golden Age despite being richer today.

Don't just stop with an emoji response. Go and seek the answer. It will be illuminating.
 
You asked why India is not able to become prosperous like it was during hindu rules in the past, despite having a hindu rule.
You will get the answer once you ask yourself ( or your elders if you are unable to find the answer) that why muslims haven't been able to recreate the Islamic Golden Age despite being richer today.

Don't just stop with an emoji response. Go and seek the answer. It will be illuminating.
Not to mention the poster you quoted is among a few who are adamant that China is to replace the US as the next global superpower and get you still saw a net migration of 350000 + away from China in 2023 alone.
 
Not to mention the poster you quoted is among a few who are adamant that China is to replace the US as the next global superpower and get you still saw a net migration of 350000 + away from China in 2023 alone.
I have been honing my skill in having conversations with people for whom logic is not their forte. This was just my practice session.
 
Not to mention the poster you quoted is among a few who are adamant that China is to replace the US as the next global superpower and get you still saw a net migration of 350000 + away from China in 2023 alone.
I haven't browsed the full thread but where is this data of 350k from China. Is it migration or people acquiring citizenships of other countries as per the OP here?
 
I haven't browsed the full thread but where is this data of 350k from China. Is it migration or people acquiring citizenships of other countries as per the OP here?
Many Chinese nationals are crossing illegally into US at the Mexico border in Arizona.
 
I .
Many Chinese nationals are crossing illegally into US at the Mexico border in Arizona.
There are many Indians doing the same.

However the topic is about acquiring citizenship. To compare with China we need comparative data on citizenships.
 
I .
There are many Indians doing the same.

However the topic is about acquiring citizenship. To compare with China we need comparative data on citizenships.
Indians are also doing the same. Mostly Punjabis entering US. Their final destination is Canada though.

I was only pointing out that a super power like China is also losing its citizens to the West.
 
Diabetes rate in India - 11.1 %

Saudi Arabia - 17.7 %

Least you could do is stop arguing for the sake of argument.
"One of the highest', not 'The highest"

As Indians who pride themselves on being fluent in English, despite an undesirable accent, there should be no difficulty in reading elementary English.
 
"One of the highest', not 'The highest"

As Indians who pride themselves on being fluent in English, despite an undesirable accent, there should be no difficulty in reading elementary English.
I'm assuming you have actually completed high school here so forgive me if I'm wrong.

You said that Indians wouldn't mind leaving a country with one of the highest diabetes rates to serve the Arabs implying that they had lower rates of diabetes.

Regardless of your chav British Pakistani accent, this is more a shocking indictment of your complete and utter lack of logic
 
I'm assuming you have actually completed high school here so forgive me if I'm wrong.

You said that Indians wouldn't mind leaving a country with one of the highest diabetes rates to serve the Arabs implying that they had lower rates of diabetes.

Regardless of your chav British Pakistani accent, this is more a shocking indictment of your complete and utter lack of logic
His expertise revolves around chanting Hindutva in every post

Started off with very lawyery style prose. Wore of quickly. He can described as mix of cap and technichs with a sprinkling of kkwc
 
I'm assuming you have actually completed high school here so forgive me if I'm wrong.

You said that Indians wouldn't mind leaving a country with one of the highest diabetes rates to serve the Arabs implying that they had lower rates of diabetes.

Regardless of your chav British Pakistani accent, this is more a shocking indictment of your complete and utter lack of logic
Lol. Try again.

The actual quote:

“I am still certain that even if Indians were capable of offering better wages, most would still choose to leave India to serve as domestic help in Arab countries. After all, many would rather serve wealthy Arabs than remain in a country plagued by one of the highest diabetes rates in the world.”

:)

But honestly, I’m relieved I never went to an Indian high school. It’s like they program you to defend bigotry, even after you’ve left the country.
 
His expertise revolves around chanting Hindutva in every post

Started off with very lawyery style prose. Wore of quickly. He can described as mix of cap and technichs with a sprinkling of kkwc
Lol.

I'd reply but I don't know which sub category atheist mask you had on when you typed that up.
 
Indians are also doing the same. Mostly Punjabis entering US. Their final destination is Canada though.

I was only pointing out that a super power like China is also losing its citizens to the West.
People migrating from third world to first world is normal.

But when it comes to accepting the new nationality it must be a hard feeling to through away your Indian passport to the rubbish bin.
 
People migrating from third world to first world is normal.

But when it comes to accepting the new nationality it must be a hard feeling to through away your Indian passport to the rubbish bin.
I wish India had dual citizenship. Throwing Indian passport in dustbin is too harsh to say. You surrender the passport to the nearest embassy and immediately apply for the OCI card. We still have family in India.
 
People migrating from third world to first world is normal.

But when it comes to accepting the new nationality it must be a hard feeling to through away your Indian passport to the rubbish bin.
True. Surrendering that green card was one of the hardest decisions I've taken. Not that I regret it but I wonder if I've done wrong by my daughter.
 
People migrating from third world to first world is normal.
6 milion+ from Iron brotherland agree with you
But when it comes to accepting the new nationality it must be a hard feeling to through away your Indian passport to the rubbish bin.
Is it better to be dual citizen and pay tax to get your other country bombed like no t'rrow?

u know the turning the predator into a national bird?
 
6 milion+ from Iron brotherland agree with you

Is it better to be dual citizen and pay tax to get your other country bombed like no t'rrow?

u know the turning the predator into a national bird?
What's your circumstances brother? Sometimes Indian sometimes Canadian? Is there paperwork that confirms that flexibility?
 
I wish India had dual citizenship. Throwing Indian passport in dustbin is too harsh to say. You surrender the passport to the nearest embassy and immediately apply for the OCI card. We still have family in India.
Yeah I agree. It has pros and cons but making people eventually cut off their links to their home country is harsh. Most people move abroad to help others back home too.
 
Yeah I agree. It has pros and cons but making people eventually cut off their links to their home country is harsh. Most people move abroad to help others back home too.
@Champ_Pal also

What does citizenship mean to you?

If you are a dual citizen and you have to do some thing it benefit one country and harm the other, which one will you choose? is it always the same?

would you pick arms for one country against the other?
 

Why are Indians leaving Sweden at record rate? Viral post, expert reveal truth​


Indians looking for greener pastures have looked at the US, Canada and Europe. However, Sweden is witnessing hordes of Indians leaving the country. What is behind the trend is explained by an Indian software engineer and the CEO of the Sweden-India Business Council. They reveal what is likely behind the outflow of Indians from Sweden.

Between January and June 2024, Sweden saw a dramatic 171% increase in Indian emigrants, with 2,837 departures, marking a historic shift in migration patterns. This is the highest emigration of Indians from Sweden since 1998.

Software engineer Ankur Tyagi, who has been living in Sweden, took to social media to share his thoughts on why so many Indians are choosing to leave Sweden, the fifth-largest European country, despite its "beautiful landscapes, unique culture, and new experiences". Tyagi's post has gone viral.

According to Tyagi, several factors contribute to this trend. He identified "professional growth in India" as a major reason.

"With India’s economy booming, highly skilled professionals now have access to competitive salaries and exciting career opportunities, making a return home appealing," Tyagi wrote on X.

Additionally, "loneliness and lack of close friends" play a role. Many Indians struggle to form close connections in Sweden due to cultural and language barriers, missing the strong social bonds they had back home.

This comes even as the Swedish government is planning to pay "foreign-born" Swedish citizens to move out of the country in an effort to reduce net migration.

"A voluntary exit scheme currently offers 10,000 Swedish crowns (approximately $960) plus travel costs for refugees to leave the country," according to The National news.

Software engineer Tyagi also highlighted challenges faced by spouses of Indian professionals in Sweden, who often struggle to find employment due to a "lack of Swedish language skills".

"Despite having qualifications and work experience, many spouses struggle to find jobs in Sweden due to a lack of Swedish language skills," Tyagi posted on X.

Many return to support "aging parents" and to be closer to family, which enhances overall happiness, especially for children who benefit from spending time with their grandparents.

Another factor Tyagi mentioned is "social integration". Indians may find it difficult to fully integrate into Swedish society, leading them to feel more comfortable returning to India. The "harsh Swedish weather" and "high cost of living" are also significant issues, making India’s warmer climate and lower cost of living more attractive.

The rise of "remote work flexibility" due to the pandemic has enabled many to work from anywhere. This has led some Indians to return to India while continuing to work for international employers.

Robin Sukhia, Secretary-General and CEO of the Sweden-India Business Council, has also cited several challenges faced by Indians in Sweden, including a "shortage of service apartments" and "general accommodation issues".

“We do not believe there is a single reason for this change. It’s likely due to various factors, including high living costs, a shortage of service apartments, and general accommodation issues. A full-year assessment is needed to understand the trend,” Sukhia told The Local Sweden.

Statistics from Sweden show that the number of Indian-born people leaving the country has surged, making them the largest group of emigrants, surpassing those from Iraq, China, and Syria. This shift marks the first time since at least 1998 that Sweden has experienced a negative net migration of Indian-born residents in the first half of the year.

Despite this increase in emigration, Indians are still one of the largest groups of new immigrants to Sweden in 2024, coming in second only to Ukrainians, according to The Local Sweden.

A total of 2,461 Indian-born individuals moved to Sweden between January and June 2024, down from 3,681 in the same period last year.

Excluding the pandemic years of 2020 and 2021, this represents the lowest level of Indian immigration since 2017.

 
@Champ_Pal also

What does citizenship mean to you?

If you are a dual citizen and you have to do some thing it benefit one country and harm the other, which one will you choose? is it always the same?

would you pick arms for one country against the other?
Sorry you mentioned in the other thread this question was for me but it's for champ pal.

Overall most dual citizens will be more loyal to their home country than their new country.

Its a complex topic. People's nationalist loyalties lie at home and then economic loyalties lie with their adopted country. In most cases the economic loyalty will come up trumps. You don't need to look for for examples. Even on this forum British Pakistanis generally have no intention of moving abroad and the biggest cheerleaders for Modi are nationals of other countries who have no intentions of moving back either.

At some point the feelings transfer over, usually when you have kids and assets in your new country, then the dual nationality really only serves as helpful when travelling back to your origin country. But it would be unnatural to expect people to lose affinity for their home country when they accept another nationality.

Personally I think a dual nationality where you can hold two for a limited period of time before having to make a choice may be a good compromise.
 
Sorry you mentioned in the other thread this question was for me but it's for champ pal.

Overall most dual citizens will be more loyal to their home country than their new country.

Its a complex topic. People's nationalist loyalties lie at home and then economic loyalties lie with their adopted country. In most cases the economic loyalty will come up trumps. You don't need to look for for examples. Even on this forum British Pakistanis generally have no intention of moving abroad and the biggest cheerleaders for Modi are nationals of other countries who have no intentions of moving back either.

At some point the feelings transfer over, usually when you have kids and assets in your new country, then the dual nationality really only serves as helpful when travelling back to your origin country. But it would be unnatural to expect people to lose affinity for their home country when they accept another nationality.

Personally I think a dual nationality where you can hold two for a limited period of time before having to make a choice may be a good compromise.
It was for both of you.

Britain recognizes dual citizenship for some countries, but US doesn't and expects allegiance to the US constitution or to give up your citizenship.

the fact that the old country recognizes you a citizen when you have pledge allegiance to another country is not something I'm able to understand.

Its still not clear nationality/citizenships means to many here.
 
Many reasons: Freedom of a new place, ability to create wealth without shady stuff, better work life balance.

I loved my time in India in 1990s was good until 2000s but i think after 2009 maybe the work life cultural religious obligations , hypocrisy made me want to leave as well.
 
Not related to topic, I hate NRIs who claims to be nationalist but never willing to come back.
On this forum it's funny coz those people are usually the ones who are hyper nationalist and are those who have a crazy vendetta against Brit Pakistanis
 
On this forum it's funny coz those people are usually the ones who are hyper nationalist and are those who have a crazy vendetta against Brit Pakistanis
It’s true for Brit Pakistanis as well, they are hyper nationalists compared to ones in Pak..
 
Since Brexit the biggest nationality of migrants have also been Indians. I guess India isn't shining enough
You statement is half correct and other part is wrong.

Correct Bit -
It is true that India has the most number of migrants in UK post Brexit. It is high time for the gov of UK to get a grip on it. No point in handing out family visa to the students for example. Why do they need to bring mum, dad, cousins etc while in college? Then again when people like Nigel Farage tried to tell the same thing, he was classed as racist. With labour govt, this migration rate will only increase.

Incorrect Bit -
This has nothing to do with India shinning. India has made great progress at all levels under the present govt. There is a reason western world and middle east is eager to do trade deals with India. However its biggest issue is population and even if 1 or 2% of total population move overseas, it will still be bigger than most other nations. That has nothing to do with India shinning.

Regards,
Rajdeep
 
It’s true for Brit Pakistanis as well, they are hyper nationalists compared to ones in Pak..
Yes in many cases that's true.

As I said in a previous post most of people who fall into this bracket (whether Pakistani or Indian) are hyper nationalist but unwilling to move.

One subtle difference is that Pakistanis are generally passionate about an idea of Pakistan and the potential of Pakistan so can make some convenient excuses when push comes to shove by saying the ground realities don't meet their needs.

However the Indians love the reality of India and champion the tangible progress under Modi but still don't have it in them to move back.
 
Many reasons: Freedom of a new place, ability to create wealth without shady stuff, better work life balance.

I loved my time in India in 1990s was good until 2000s but i think after 2009 maybe the work life cultural religious obligations , hypocrisy made me want to leave as well.
Interesting. My experience is the opposite. I spent most of the years from around 2006 to 2014 out of India - the last 4 years in the States. I'm deeply grateful for it - allowed me to experience a work environment that encouraged ownership, experimentation and equity as well as a lifestyle that was just not possible for even an upper middle-class guy in India. I returned to India in 2014 and well the change in the last 10 years has been incredible - both in terms of work opportunities as well as lifestyle.

I also think you magnify the cultural religious obligations in your mind. Even as an atheist, I can confidently say that even today in a more religiously charged India, you can take or leave those requirements as much as you please.
 
True. Surrendering that green card was one of the hardest decisions I've taken. Not that I regret it but I wonder if I've done wrong by my daughter.
Over the past few year many of my extended family moved back to Pakistan. I say back, even though many of those moving were born here. Post covid remote working gave them the opportunity to get paid in pounds but not need to be in the country. The elders had built up small assets by UK standards but given the disparity in currencies some modest rental income in pounds can go a long way in Pakistan.

Tellingly they haven't given up their UK status ( yet) and I don't think they plan to either, because I imagine all will return at some point when their kids are older.

I was potentially going to make the same move but the UK seemed like a safer bet for my kids futures. They would have had better primary and secondary education in Pakistan ( high standard private schools) but there is no opportunities beyond that.

So I understand how difficult it was for you, especially without the safety net of being a dual citizen.
 
Interesting. My experience is the opposite. I spent most of the years from around 2006 to 2014 out of India - the last 4 years in the States. I'm deeply grateful for it - allowed me to experience a work environment that encouraged ownership, experimentation and equity as well as a lifestyle that was just not possible for even an upper middle-class guy in India. I returned to India in 2014 and well the change in the last 10 years has been incredible - both in terms of work opportunities as well as lifestyle.

I also think you magnify the cultural religious obligations in your mind. Even as an atheist, I can confidently say that even today in a more religiously charged India, you can take or leave those requirements as much as you please.
The religious obligations aren’t from society, if anything India is way more neutral now than it was in the 1990s, it’s more from family etc.

I agree work life is good in India compared to 2010s but I still prefer the DIY culture of States compared to convenience of India.
 
Over the past few year many of my extended family moved back to Pakistan. I say back, even though many of those moving were born here. Post covid remote working gave them the opportunity to get paid in pounds but not need to be in the country. The elders had built up small assets by UK standards but given the disparity in currencies some modest rental income in pounds can go a long way in Pakistan.

Tellingly they haven't given up their UK status ( yet) and I don't think they plan to either, because I imagine all will return at some point when their kids are older.

I was potentially going to make the same move but the UK seemed like a safer bet for my kids futures. They would have had better primary and secondary education in Pakistan ( high standard private schools) but there is no opportunities beyond that.

So I understand how difficult it was for you, especially without the safety net of being a dual citizen.
Don't want to sound too virtuous. I moved back for parent and in-law health reasons primarily not because I loved India or saw some incredible opportunity here to participate in the growth story. It's worked out pretty well for professional, social and family stuff and I've declined an opportunity to move back since.

I also hung on to that Green Card for a while till it became untenable to maintain.
 
True. Surrendering that green card was one of the hardest decisions I've taken. Not that I regret it but I wonder if I've done wrong by my daughter.
Yes, you have done wrong for your child. But there is always opportunity to send her abroad for studies.

The best thing you can give your girl child, is a citizenship of a developed country, which is far away from the regressive influence of bollywood and its cousins and a population of low IQ repressed people with cheap internet.
 
So I understand how difficult it was for you, especially without the safety net of being a dual citizen.
Is it really? if the the two countries head butt and make you chose?

Guess you have more options on which passport to throw in the trash bin
 
On this forum it's funny coz those people are usually the ones who are hyper nationalist and are those who have a crazy vendetta against Brit Pakistanis
To be fair if Brit Pakistanis were in charge of Pakistan now, Kashmir wouldve been liberated a long time ago.


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Is it really? if the the two countries head butt and make you chose?

Guess you have more options on which passport to throw in the trash bin
I don't really understand the question.

Even citizens of one country don't always agree with what their government is doing why would dual citizens.

More often than not the actions of governments make no difference to dual citizens or people with dual allegiances.

For example when Modi sent an assassin squad to Canada and Truedeau objected - what impact did it have on you? How did you respond?
 
Agreed. I firmly feel that folks with dual citizenship should not be allowed to hold public office or a government position in either country but other than that, it's tough to be concerned. I'm not calling for India to relax the ban on dual citizenships but I wouldn't be too bothered if we did either.
 
I don't really understand the question.
I'm asking,

what do you do if the two countries you are citizen of go to war? who do you help with your actions?

What do you consider your obligations are as a citizen?

Thought that much was obvious. I'll spell it out for you in the future.

Even citizens of one country don't always agree with what their government is doing why would dual citizens.
Even those who disagree will not collude with the enemy
More often than not the actions of governments make no difference to dual citizens or people with dual allegiances.
I'm asking what do dual citizens do when they have to?
For example when Modi sent an assassin squad to Canada and Truedeau objected - what impact did it have on you? How did you respond?
Or like Canada harboring Khalistani's terrorists, SL tamil terrorists and bengali muslim terrorists
 
I'm asking,

what do you do if the two countries you are citizen of go to war? who do you help with your actions?

What do you consider your obligations are as a citizen?
@Stewie don't mean to drag in to a tangent.

Does Pak origin folks in US maintain dual citizenship?
 
I'm asking,

what do you do if the two countries you are citizen of go to war? who do you help with your actions?

What do you consider your obligations are as a citizen?

Thought that much was obvious. I'll spell it out for you in the future.


Even those who disagree will not collude with the enemy

I'm asking what do dual citizens do when they have to?

Or like Canada harboring Khalistani's terrorists, SL tamil terrorists and bengali muslim terrorists
Thank you for the additional examples. Many Indians still seek to move to Canada despite the country harbouring what they call terrorists.

I think you are overcomplicating the question.

Most dual nationals will behave exactly as you have behaved during Indian and Canadian tensions.
 
Thank you for the additional examples. Many Indians still seek to move to Canada despite the country harbouring what they call terrorists.

I think you are overcomplicating the question.

Most dual nationals will behave exactly as you have behaved during Indian and Canadian tensions.
you are dancing around a straightforward question.

consistent.
 
you are dancing around a straightforward question.

consistent.
Where is the dance?

I've answered it. Most dual nationals will carry on living their life.

Most dual citizens will do exactly as you did when Canada and India had beef. If Canada harbouring dangerous Khalistanis wasn't enough to discuss you from moving there why do you seek to hold others to higher standards? Just because they hold two passports?
 
Where is the dance?

I've answered it. Most dual nationals will carry on living their life.

Most dual citizens will do exactly as you did when Canada and India had beef. If Canada harbouring dangerous Khalistanis wasn't enough to discuss you from moving there why do you seek to hold others to higher standards? Just because they hold two passports?
That was not the question and you know it. Sad really.
 
Lol every third world country loses people to emigration, India is not an exception. India doesn't have dual citizenship, so obviously people have to give up indian citizenship before taking up any other ones. 1.5 lakh a year is like 1 in 10000 or 0.01% of Indian population, hardly anything to worry about. Pakistan is losing 1.6 million or close to 0.6% yearly which is close to 60 times that of India.


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Lol every third world country loses people to emigration, India is not an exception. India doesn't have dual citizenship, so obviously people have to give up indian citizenship before taking up any other ones. 1.5 lakh a year is like 1 in 10000 or 0.01% of Indian population, hardly anything to worry about. Pakistan is losing 1.6 million or close to 0.6% yearly which is close to 60 times that of India.


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What is the source of this map? How many are Afghan migrants who have been repatriated?
 
It’s true for Brit Pakistanis as well, they are hyper nationalists compared to ones in Pak..
Wrong.

They don't go claiming Pakistan is the next economic superpower bringing riches to the masses, or Pakistan is the fastest developing nation.

Pakistanis are happy to claim Pakistan in a mess, but hyper Indian nationalists (Hindutva) claim their country, their government, their economy is the best, yet bail 'Incredible' India at the first chance.

It's posters like you that bring home the realities of India and Indians, and that is, the only hype is India.
 
Wrong.

They don't go claiming Pakistan is the next economic superpower bringing riches to the masses, or Pakistan is the fastest developing nation.

Pakistanis are happy to claim Pakistan in a mess, but hyper Indian nationalists (Hindutva) claim their country, their government, their economy is the best, yet bail 'Incredible' India at the first chance.

It's posters like you that bring home the realities of India and Indians, and that is, the only hype is India.

Yeah India and Pakistan are not in same economic situation for one to claim that, the claim Brit Pakistanis make is that of how they ruled over India/Hindus.

So enjoy that.
 
Wrong.

They don't go claiming Pakistan is the next economic superpower bringing riches to the masses, or Pakistan is the fastest developing nation.

Pakistanis are happy to claim Pakistan in a mess, but hyper Indian nationalists (Hindutva) claim their country, their government, their economy is the best, yet bail 'Incredible' India at the first chance.

It's posters like you that bring home the realities of India and Indians, and that is, the only hype is India.
Pakistanis don't make the claim, because they cannot.

Indians don't say their economy is the best. They only say their economy is moving in the right direction, which is true.

Remember the days when you used to predict India will go bankrupt in a year?
 
Yeah India and Pakistan are not in same economic situation for one to claim that, the claim Brit Pakistanis make is that of how they ruled over India/Hindus.

So enjoy that.
I can only imagine how intolerable these guys must have been in the 80's when they were living off uncle sam's largesse pretending that it was all their own making.

This should be fun for @Technics 1210


BTW, you used spout that CPEC was game changer. has the game changed yet?

Care to any predictions on what that chart will look like in another 5 years?
 
Pakistanis don't make the claim, because they cannot.

Indians don't say their economy is the best. They only say their economy is moving in the right direction, which is true.

Remember the days when you used to predict India will go bankrupt in a year?
Irrelevant whether Pakistanis can or cannot, fact it, they do not. In the same way Pakistanis barely talk about the British rule, unlike Indians who cannot let go of their past.

And pls, stop fibbing. Every Indian, including the Indian government, claims a lot more than just Indians economy is in the right direction, they flaunt their wealth in and out of India and do claim India is the next economic superpower and cite G7 GDP to remind us all of Indian riches. You are all now changing your tune since Modi has revealed himself to be an abject failure when it comes to the Indian economy.

Yes I remember the days when Indians claimed their economy was the best, but soon they themselves realised they were spewing Hindutva propaganda, evidenced by the facts Indians are desperate to flee their homeland.

You need to man up and explain why if India is progressing in the right direction, millions of Indians want to leave? Don't give me the 'it will take time' excuse, as India already had a 5000 year head start.
 
They do not, because they CANNOT.
That right, Pakistanis cannot claim Pakistan is sound, never did. Indians on the other hand........

Just explain to us all if India is heading in the right direction, then why are Indians desperately heading in the other direction towards the West?
 
That right, Pakistanis cannot claim Pakistan is sound, never did. Indians on the other hand........

Just explain to us all if India is heading in the right direction, then why are Indians desperately heading in the other direction towards the West?
Because some indians are progressing at a faster pace than the progress of the country. Same reason why people move to a richer neighbourhood when they get richer.
 
I was in Europe for a few weeks and I can promise you, there were more Indians than refugees.

Why don't these Indians turn up to UK shores? Because it is easier to apply for a Schengen Visa than it is for a UK one.
 
Er no.

Moving to a richer neighborhood is different to fleeing a country.
Flee is when you are escaping persecution. When you are upper middle class, then you want better roads, less crowd, more access to beach.

I would personally like to move to some small european country after 10 years. Saving my money to get a golden visa.
 
Flee is when you are escaping persecution. When you are upper middle class, then you want better roads, less crowd, more access to beach.

I would personally like to move to some small european country after 10 years. Saving my money to get a golden visa.
Forget Europe. It is toast.

Unless you save enough money to live in Switzerland.
 
Indian parents' desire to boast about their children living abroad has deep roots in societal prestige, and this mentality persists regardless of who is in power. A 2024 report indicates that over 1.3 million Indian students are pursuing higher studies abroad, with the US and Canada being the top destinations. This trend reflects a continuing emphasis on moving to Western countries as a status symbol.
Hierarchy is ingrained in the concept of living abroad, where countries like the US and Europe are perceived as more prestigious than Asian or Middle Eastern destinations. In contrast, countries like Sri Lanka or Bangladesh are often looked down upon, reinforcing the idea that the value of living abroad is tied not only to leaving India but also to the specific destination.

This mindset of seeking bragging rights through foreign residency is unlikely to change, no matter the political landscape. It is deeply embedded in cultural aspirations for global recognition and social mobility.
 
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