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8 runs required from 8 balls - Shahid Afridi plays THAT shot

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8 runs required from 8 balls.

Shahid Afridi goes for one more wild swing and Peshawar goes:

W, 1, 0, 4, 1, W, W, W.

Of course Sammy, Jordan, Riaz, and Ali should be able to manage 8 from 7 balls, but why make it two new batsmen at the crease in that situation with Haris Sohail having just gotten out himself.
 
no blame on afridi whatsoever. if i was sammy i would have told him to keep doing his stuff at that stage. easy to look back on moments aftr the game.
wasnt the wrong play at all.
 
The luxury of hindsight. We needed just one more six at that stage and the game was done and dusted. The way Afridi was hitting the ball, anyone in his position would have backed himself to get another six. Unfortunately, he couldn't connect and we lost the plot.

It was important to finish the game off in the penultimate over because funny things can happen in the final over, and today was no different.
 
Lol he's been doing that for 20 years.

In fact he did it (i.e. he kept attacking) in the previous game against Quetta and it worked out perfectly - no thread was made then?

He backed himself today as well and rightly so.

Full blame lies on the tail, which seems more than capable on paper.
 
Your such a afridi hater zalmi needed 3 runs of 2 balls. Its not his fault his team cant finish
 
Nawaz won the game. No one lost it. Don't have to look for a scapegoat in every match.
 
LOL

Not his fault.

Sammy running a single was the biggest mistake.

He should have finished it and not trusted the tail-enders.
 
Can't fault him there.

The team simply can't fail from that position even if he got out. Unacceptable.
 
People keep calling him a match-winner but I reckon he has lost more games from winning positions than won from losing positions
 
The luxury of hindsight. We needed just one more six at that stage and the game was done and dusted. The way Afridi was hitting the ball, anyone in his position would have backed himself to get another six. Unfortunately, he couldn't connect and we lost the plot.

It was important to finish the game off in the penultimate over because funny things can happen in the final over, and today was no different.

Hindsight or no hindsight - great finishers win the game by themselves and not leave it to others.

Thats what makes Dhoni, Kohli, Bevan etc. ATG's in ODI's.
 
He failed to adapt to the match situation but is that even surprising?

He never had game awareness and had zero regard for the state of the match. His carefree method would work once in awhile and fans would go gaga over it.

He has already performed better than expectations in this tournament. Yet most of his big hitting have come against spinners. Just like always, he wasn't successful against proper pacers.
 
He failed to adapt to the match situation but is that even surprising?

He never had game awareness and had zero regard for the state of the match. His carefree method would work once in awhile and fans would go gaga over it.

He has already performed better than expectations in this tournament. Yet most of his big hitting have come against spinners. Just like always, he wasn't successful against proper pacers.

Absurd logic. The guy who scored 34 (13) is blamed but not the people who couldn't score 1 run in 3 balls?
 
What a miserable thread. Some people hate Afridi with such a passion that they will look for so many ways to put the blame on him. He's played absolutely marvelously and deserves to be in the T20i team yet he's shown maturity and called it a day.

How was it his fault? If the players cannot make 3 off 4 deliveries despite being called "all rounder" then it is their lack of ability.
 
Absurd logic. The guy who scored 34 (13) is blamed but not the people who couldn't score 1 run in 3 balls?

Don't assume too much. The thread is about Afridi and what he should have done. OP clearly states this

Of course Sammy, Jordan, Riaz, and Ali should be able to manage 8 from 7 balls, but why make it two new batsmen at the crease in that situation with Haris Sohail having just gotten out himself
 
If anything, the way Peshawar´s tail imploded, it makes me conclude that even after Hafeez´s and Malan´s innings, they wouldn´t have even got near the total without Afridi´s awesome 13-ball 34. He played his part and brought back the match in Peshawar´s reach almost every over´s last two balls with a six or two.

Also, hindsight´s a great thing, but I wouldn´t blame Sammy here either for taking the single. He´d given enough (three) deliveries to the very capable tail to give the strike back to him and in the process at least tie the game. He´d already declined a single of the first ball, and had he done that again on the third ball two, everyone would´ve been calling for his head had he then not been able to hit a boundary, or taken one the next ball and hence given the tail just two balls.

The fault lies with the tail, they batted like mindless creatures. When the last over was about to begin, I said to my brother that the great disadvantage to the batting team when a spinner bowls the last is that they can´t just dab and run, because the keeper´s breathing down on your neck, which always poses a great danger of getting run out. Well, that exactly proved to be the deciding factor!

Still though, bat on ball stuff horribly goofed up by Zalmi´s tail. It hurts to be saying this about the team that I support, but one has to admit they´re the official chokers of the PSL. They just can´t hold their nerves in a tight match, and although Quetta suffered the same fate their previous two matches, they know well how to choke the opposition in a nail-biter.

Nawaz bowled incredible three yorkers though. Not easy for a spinner that, but he was fantastic.
 
got to be kidding. Afridi is the man who kept PZ in the game and even gave them the upper hand with those sixes. It was pathetic batting from Jordan,Wahab and Hasan. Afridi did his job.
 
got to be kidding. Afridi is the man who kept PZ in the game and even gave them the upper hand with those sixes. It was pathetic batting from Jordan,Wahab and Hasan. Afridi did his job.

Sammy was poor as well, couldn't middle a single delivery on a flat pitch against mediocre bowling. That one boundary in the last over was a mis-hit as well. Also, decision to not bat ahead of a rusty accumulator like Haris was absurd, and so was the decision to send Wahab ahead of Hasan who is a better batsman.

Biggest culprit for me after Kamran.
 
Hindsight or no hindsight - great finishers win the game by themselves and not leave it to others.

Thats what makes Dhoni, Kohli, Bevan etc. ATG's in ODI's.

Yes and he isn't a great finisher. After all these years, we should know better than to compare him to batsmen like Dhoni, Kohli and Bevan.

Nonetheless, as explained already, he cannot be faulted for playing that shot. It was important to finish the game off in the penultimate over. What happened in the final over is exactly why Afridi had to go for another six, 7-8 runs are always tricky in the final over.
 
7-8 runs required with jordan, sammy, ali back in the hut, 7 balls left afridi had to back himself, noway he can be blamed for this defeat. Typical pakistani logic, if he hadnt played the way he did the game would have been over long time before.
 
Could have been a bit smarter about it and looked to take the spinner on in the last over. Sarfraz was always going to bowl a spinner in the last over (as the pacers had finished their overs) - Only Luke wright was the only pacer left and he hadn't bowled an over - so it was pretty obvious that he was going to give the last over to a spinner.
 
Got to say this, whether the fan brigade of this tullaay baaz phool likes it or not...he threw the match away, just like a million times he has done it before for the National team!

Int'l cricket these days is all about having the set batsmen taking you through to the finish line...such a pressure situation is not good for players who might not have faced that many balls in past matches to be that effective to begin with; you add the element of pitch slowness, dew, night time, crowd noise, fan expectations etc. and you got the recipe for a disaster and that is what they exactly got.

I did it my way, well your way have usually ended in your team losing almost every time except that once in a blue moon match where you pulled it off. Glad that we will not be seeing him in the national colors anymore
 
Don't assume too much. The thread is about Afridi and what he should have done. OP clearly states this

Shh, the Afridi snowflakes won't like this. They simply view this thread as 100% of the blame being placed on him.

Clearly didn't read the opening post and just pulled out their pitchforks as soon as they saw his name.
 
People keep calling him a match-winner but I reckon he has lost more games from winning positions than won from losing positions

exactly.

the guy once again lost it for his team last night due to his own faults
 
Sammy was poor as well, couldn't middle a single delivery on a flat pitch against mediocre bowling. That one boundary in the last over was a mis-hit as well. Also, decision to not bat ahead of a rusty accumulator like Haris was absurd, and so was the decision to send Wahab ahead of Hasan who is a better batsman.

Biggest culprit for me after Kamran.

This criticism on Sammy is spot on, especially the couple of decision with regards to the batting order. Wahab has throughout the tournament been sent ahead of Hasan, and throughout he has failed and has played a helping hand for the opposition, whereas Hasan has been pretty good hitting form. It´s so odd to see a captain being so unaware of something quite obvious. Wahab is a tailender after all, but they keep trusting him and sending him at his fixed position as if he´s a top class batsman just an innings away from being fully in form. :))
 
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Afridi is a senior player, he should've assumed the responsibility and take his team over the line. Yes he was hitting the ball cleanly but knowing how Pakistani tailenders often choke at the death he should've stayed out there.

But asking Afridi to bat according to the match situation is a pointless task as we've learnt over the last 21 years.
 
All excuses are pointless. After playing 20+ years of cricket, he should know how to finish a game. Someone who bats at #6 or #7 should be a finisher.
 
Don't assume too much. The thread is about Afridi and what he should have done. OP clearly states this

Why ignore the first part of the sentence?

34 off 13 is an extremely good contribution by any standard. He took the match to a stage where they were 90% favourites from a position that was at best even.
 
Got to say this, whether the fan brigade of this tullaay baaz phool likes it or not...he threw the match away, just like a million times he has done it before for the National team!

Int'l cricket these days is all about having the set batsmen taking you through to the finish line...such a pressure situation is not good for players who might not have faced that many balls in past matches to be that effective to begin with; e

Sarfaraz Ahmed and gang played according to your logic the other day and couldn't even get 7 runs off 12 balls. And they left 6 wickets without even batting. But I suppose that was responsible cricket form Rossouw?
 
Sarfaraz Ahmed and gang played according to your logic the other day and couldn't even get 7 runs off 12 balls. And they left 6 wickets without even batting. But I suppose that was responsible cricket form Rossouw?



So you equate one match to a lifetime of missed chances by this kulhara, nice logic!
 
what the hell is so difficult to understand?!

That's his game, that's the only way he's played for 20 years!!

If you are still asking questions like these, you must be real slow
 
what the hell is so difficult to understand?!

That's his game, that's the only way he's played for 20 years!!

If you are still asking questions like these, you must be real slow



Those following/woshipping him (fan.boys) are the real 'Special' ones who did not figure this out that this guy does not play for the team!

20 years experience of slog up in the air and being caught and game being over (in a loss usually) is not called hindsight
 
Shahid Afridi has always been a loser. An entertaining loser, but a loser all the same. But he was not the reason Peshawar lost that match, I think a lot of blame falls on the shoulders of Darren Sammy who has been abysmal throughout the tournament.
 
Why ignore the first part of the sentence?

34 off 13 is an extremely good contribution by any standard. He took the match to a stage where they were 90% favourites from a position that was at best even.

The primary responsibility of every professional sportsperson is to try to win a game for his team. If that requires curbing his instincts, so be it. Had Afridi done that in his career more often, he would have won a lot more matches for his team.

Afridi played a fine entertaining innings which also improved his team's chances of winning, but that elusive victory was still contingent upon his stay at the crease which Afridi failed to realize and played that shot. He should have understood, that final over has to be bowled by a spinner and among all the batsmen left in the innings, he is best equipped to score runs against spinners.

A batsman can either play a long innings or can get out early. So once you are settled and hitting the ball well, have adjusted to the pace and bounce of the pitch, your responsibility to take your team over the line increases.

Suppose two batsmen are batting in the same innings which ended up in a losing cause. One had scored runs but got out playing a silly shot. The other one got a good ball early in the innings and got out without scoring. The first one is a greater offender in my opinion. Because the first one has done all the hard work and he just have to play according to the situation and taken the responsibility while second one got out in the tricky phase of his innings so he didn't get the chance to play the easier part of his innings.

Now this is acceptable if it happens occasionally but in case of Afridi, he refused to change his approach and stay oblivious to match situation and often gets out at crucial point in the match. He never realize that although he has taken his team to a better position in the match, he still is the best person to finish the match. Even when you have played an impressive innings, one little error can undone all you effort. After playing 500+ international matches, Afridi should have learnt that.
 
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He has won some games for Pakistan but was never a great finisher because he lost many too.
 
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