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85% of Indians trust government: Pew survey

Indian Judiciary doesnt need your certificate.

It doesn't need yours either but I will keep giving my opinion.

A joke especially after joker Modi got away with mass murder.
 
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Has any PM in Pakistan ever completed his term?

I think you are veering this discussion off course, whether deliberately or otherwise. While I have focused only on the topic in hand, you are continually steering it to Pakistan. I have no problem discussing Pakistan's democracy if you would prefer that, but I would suggest you start a new thread if that is your interest.
 
I think you are veering this discussion off course, whether deliberately or otherwise. While I have focused only on the topic in hand, you are continually steering it to Pakistan. I have no problem discussing Pakistan's democracy if you would prefer that, but I would suggest you start a new thread if that is your interest.



I think we have to respect the verdicts of judicial systems around the world, after all they, same as Pakistan, are the products of a healthy and ratified democratic system. Just as we should respect India's courts and judges, I am sure joshila bhai would respect Pakistan's.

Come on PP posters, let's give Indian voters their dues, and I'm sure they will do the same for Pakistan's.


Seems you missed your own post.
 
One of the most corrupt useless governments on planet. Seems like they have cooked up numbers just so they can write about it.

Can’t trust anything published in India
 
It was you who referred to Pakistan first in your post yesterday, which has deflected the topic, not my fault:




It's to avoid this type of what-aboutism that I suggested you start a new thread about Pakistan's democracy if you want to discuss Pakistan.

Pakistani origin person saying Indians dont have political sense needs to be shown the mirror.
 
One of the most corrupt useless governments on planet. Seems like they have cooked up numbers just so they can write about it.

Can’t trust anything published in India

PEW research isnt Indian. So whats your issue if Indians trust their govt?
 
Pakistani origin person saying Indians dont have political sense needs to be shown the mirror.

You can start a new thread if you want to discuss Pakistan. That is the only way to avoid discussing Pakistan in every thread, even when the topic is unrelated to Pakistan. You can discuss each topic in it's appropriate thread, and all are welcome to participate without any need to be shown the mirror/diverting. If you have a problem with Pakistanis discussing India, then I advise you to take it up in the Match Referees Room, you may get a change in policy if Admin agree to censoring posts according to nationality.
 
There you go with repeated childish response by an Indian on Pak passion, “ don’t discuss India, because you are not Indian, and resort to compare it with Pakistan, then they talk about we don’t care about Pakistan.

The funniest and saddest thing on Pakpassion.
 
Anyways both Indian parties are a joke. I guess congress are worse so people base their hope on BJP who are also parasites but considered not as bad as Gandhi dynasty
 
So you don't believe they happened?


Can't be 100% sure but it may have been a political stunt to please the public.. Heavg shelling across LOC given a new name of surgical strikes to appease public.. But who knows maybe it did happen..
 
Can't be 100% sure but it may have been a political stunt to please the public.. Heavg shelling across LOC given a new name of surgical strikes to appease public.. But who knows maybe it did happen..

Heavy Shelling happens on a regular basis.
 
So 85% Indian are illogical as they don't agree with your individual view. Wow, some crazy posters here.
 
Can't be 100% sure but it may have been a political stunt to please the public.. Heavg shelling across LOC given a new name of surgical strikes to appease public.. But who knows maybe it did happen..

Well, that's a 1st, atleast for me.

I though almost every Indian was adamant about Sir G Kal strikes being a reality.
 
Please stop this nonsense.

Yes, instead let the India haters make up stories about India and believe that instead of data.

You obviously have no clue about Indian culture. I have lived in India for decades and the US for decades. I can definitely tell you that there is great respect for women in Indian culture. Like any other countries, there are criminals who commit crimes against women in India but as a percentage they are much lower than other cultures.

You do realize that a very large number of rapes and sexual harassment cases go unreported in most of the sub urban and rural areas right?

The same thing is said about all countries, that rapes are not reported. Obama claimed a few years ago that 25% of women college students fact sexual assault when in college. If true, that would make the numbers for the US closer to 5,000 per 100,000 per year rather than 27 as given in the cite.

In India, it’s not easy to report on rape

It is not easy to report rape everywhere.

Not to mention the abysmal sex ratio of 940 females per 1000 males,

Nice attempt at misdirection. We are talking about sexual assaults and not gender preference.


horrific cases of harassment and rape on even toddlers as young as 11 months coming to light virtually every week, cases taking years and decades of to be solved thereby rendering the entire judicial process to be nothing but a colossal joke.

It is idiotic to believe that a few isolated crimes represent an entire nation of over one billion people.

Defending your country is good, but just don't be so brainwashed and bereft of reality that you thoroughly misrepresent the plight of women faced by this country only to score some brownie points on a message board.

Better that than self-hate that you display in your posts in abundant proportions. It is not big secret that liberals have a twisted psyche whereby they think that talking ill of their country makes them morally superior.
 
Well, that's a 1st, atleast for me.

I though almost every Indian was adamant about Sir G Kal strikes being a reality.

TBH it doesn't matter for a lot us we have better things to ask from our government rather than the truth about surgical strikes.. For instance in 2017 in the capital of our nation we still get power cuts sometimes, more than half of our income goes in taxes to the government direct and indirect and still we have to live with power cuts sometimes.. I can go on and on about such issues but you get the point what matters to a lot of us..
 
TBH it doesn't matter for a lot us we have better things to ask from our government rather than the truth about surgical strikes.. For instance in 2017 in the capital of our nation we still get power cuts sometimes, more than half of our income goes in taxes to the government direct and indirect and still we have to live with power cuts sometimes.. I can go on and on about such issues but you get the point what matters to a lot of us..

I guess India needs more critics like you to improve.
 
I guess India needs more critics like you to improve.


Not gonna happen in my lifetime and I'm fine with accepting it, people are selfish and very gullible and easy to manipulate.. So it is how it is the rich will get richer the poor will continue to be poor and the in between people like us would continue to live our lives the way it's going and adjust to the difficulties and learn to live with them...

Whatever anyone here says every Indian here knows the problem we have it's just that some of them go after some of you guys because they get ticked up by Pakistanis taking a dig at our nation hence it becomes a fight here.. Good for time pas I suppose if you are bored..
 
Yes, instead let the India haters make up stories about India and believe that instead of data.

You obviously have no clue about Indian culture. I have lived in India for decades and the US for decades. I can definitely tell you that there is great respect for women in Indian culture. Like any other countries, there are criminals who commit crimes against women in India but as a percentage they are much lower than other cultures.

You know why I called you a quintessential statistics nerd? This is exactly why. You have no idea of reality and are blindly swayed by useless "statistics" like a "reported" Rape rate of 1.8. You think that just because you have lived in an apparently upper middle - high class family which allowed you to get a decent education and buzz off to the US, that you have a firm grasp of the ground realities. You have ZERO idea as to what goes in the rural sections of the population, zero idea as to how much of a parallel governing system runs in various parts of India where Indian Penal code can't even permeate to and the police personnel themselves bow down to the power of Kangaroo courts like in the case of Khaps. This has all been well documented for years now.

And please don't give me this woemen respect culture nonsense. If it mattered, the female sex ratio wouldn't be as abysmal as 940 and toddlers, some as young as 11 months wouldn't be getting sexually molested.



The same thing is said about all countries, that rapes are not reported. Obama claimed a few years ago that 25% of women college students fact sexual assault when in college. If true, that would make the numbers for the US closer to 5,000 per 100,000 per year rather than 27 as given in the cite.

It is not easy to report rape everywhere.

Tell me how many Kangaroo courts are functioning in the US like in India as in places like Haryana?

How prevalent is it in USA for a sexually harassed / raped female to be subjected to a body like the Panchayats where many a time they are even ordered to marry the guy who raped her like it is in India?

What's the number of legal cases concerning rape pending in USA as opposed to in India where cases take years to even get a date of hearing? Let alone the fact that many victims from the rural areas don't even get proper legal representation?

Don't be clueless. Please. You indeed sound like someone who hasn't lived in India for decades now.





Nice attempt at misdirection. We are talking about sexual assaults and not gender preference.




It is idiotic to believe that a few isolated crimes represent an entire nation of over one billion people.

Then don't post nonsense like "India is one of the safest places for women", a place where girls are still being killed at birth. The next time you get the time to visit India, ask your friends, family and acquaintances about how comfortable they would be to let their teenage girl go out of home after dusk. You'll realize just how CLUELESS your statement of "one of the safest places in India would sound like".



Better that than self-hate that you display in your posts in abundant proportions. It is not big secret that liberals have a twisted psyche whereby they think that talking ill of their country makes them morally superior.

Talking ill and garnering attention towards the ills of the society is much better than turning a blind eye to the major issues of this country and claiming absolutely abhorrently nonsensical tripe like "India is one of the safest places for women" only to earn some brownie points on a message board.
 
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It seems RSS inspired Modi and Jogi's party is going to easily win the next elections too.

Democracy although a better system than authoritarianism is being infested by big business and vested interests. Media Moghuls and big businesses finance these parties , through media they instill a feeling that you don't have any other option, even knowing that a smaller party has better credentials we hesitate to vote for them fearing that our votes would be wasted because that party has no chance, and this is media which plays a big role in convincing us that a certain party has no role, the emergence of a new party at a major scale is not seen in sizable countries even after decades.

I guess Congress's corruption has made the RSS and the right very strong in India. But it is true that people all over the world like being associated with their nationalities and races, whether it is USA, Austria ,Iran, Germany or India.
I am even surprised at Kuwait's sudden nationalistic rising. In a nutshell, a little dose of chauvinism guarantees a major increase in your vote bank. Now, we are going to see a 31 year old anti-migrant, anti-Muslim and ultra right man as head of the state in Austria.
By no means, i infer here that all other issues are unimportant or trivial but right wing and nationalistic ideology of a party attracts a lot of people.
 
You have no idea of reality and are blindly swayed by useless "statistics" like a "reported" Rape rate of 1.8.

Yes, instead of looking at actual numbers, let's just get hysterical about a rape/murder case that occupies newspaper headlines for weeks.

You think that just because you have lived in an apparently upper middle - high class family which allowed you to get a decent education and buzz off to the US, that you have a firm grasp of the ground realities.

I have a better understanding of the Indian reality in my left toenail than you have in your entire head. You are one of those we used to call "Maruti Marxists". Getting their education from Western sources, sprouting Marx, watching NDTV and believing that they understand anything about the real India.

You have ZERO idea as to what goes in the rural sections of the population, zero idea as to how much of a parallel governing system runs in various parts of India where Indian Penal code can't even permeate to and the police personnel themselves bow down to the power of Kangaroo courts like in the case of Khaps.

Again, you come across one case which the English media bleats about incessantly, and decide that all of India must be like that.

And please don't give me this woemen respect culture nonsense. If it mattered, the female sex ratio wouldn't be as abysmal as 940 and toddlers, some as young as 11 months wouldn't be getting sexually molested.

Let me see, you must be one of those who preach "woman's right to choose" in other situations. Or are you consistent and believe that abortions are always bad?

Tell me how many Kangaroo courts are functioning in the US like in India as in places like Haryana?

How prevalent is it in USA for a sexually harassed / raped female to be subjected to a body like the Panchayats where many a time they are even ordered to marry the guy who raped her like it is in India?

What's the number of legal cases concerning rape pending in USA as opposed to in India where cases take years to even get a date of hearing? Let alone the fact that many victims from the rural areas don't even get proper legal representation?

The discussion was not about which judicial system responds faster. The discussion is about where women are safer. If Obama is to be believed, then a fantastically high number of American women are assaulted every year. You are a typical liberal Indian who was educated in an English medium school and never really was intellectually part of the mass of Indian people, but will pass judgement on them to feel superior.

Don't be clueless. Please. You indeed sound like someone who hasn't lived in India for decades now.

Like I said, I have more understanding of India in my left toenail than...

Then don't post nonsense like "India is one of the safest places for women", a place where girls are still being killed at birth. The next time you get the time to visit India, ask your friends, family and acquaintances about how comfortable they would be to let their teenage girl go out of home after dusk. You'll realize just how CLUELESS your statement of "one of the safest places in India would sound like".

The female members of my family travel after dusk all the time. If you want to understand what real lack of safety means for women, learn about practices like "jackrolling".

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/264956

Talking ill and garnering attention towards the ills of the society is much better than turning a blind eye to the major issues of this country and claiming absolutely abhorrently nonsensical tripe like "India is one of the safest places for women" only to earn some brownie points on a message board.

You have no clue what the major issues for India are, you assume that your liberal crusade actually means something, it is only a silly moralistic self-indulgence. I am done with you.
 
You really don't have any idea, do you? Do you even know ground reality? I am from Gujrat. Where Modi is from. After becoming PM he barley visited Gujarat, but for last six months he's in Gujarat most of times Because of state election coming up. BJP afraid of loosing, where they have been in government for 26 years. Not even 100 Peoples coming in thier rallies, from where Modi is, where he should be most popular. Even they have to call UP CM Yogi. Don't be blind fan. Modi popularity has fallen big time.
 
You really don't have any idea, do you? Do you even know ground reality? I am from Gujrat. Where Modi is from. After becoming PM he barley visited Gujarat, but for last six months he's in Gujarat most of times Because of state election coming up. BJP afraid of loosing, where they have been in government for 26 years. Not even 100 Peoples coming in thier rallies, from where Modi is, where he should be most popular. Even they have to call UP CM Yogi. Don't be blind fan. Modi popularity has fallen big time.

Of course, a random person on the internet claiming to be an insider, from the state itself and knows everything. But you aren't the only one, there was an entire crowd of journalists around UP elections who said big things about the opposition.
 
Of course, a random person on the internet claiming to be an insider, from the state itself and knows everything. But you aren't the only one, <b>there was an entire crowd of journalists around UP elections who said big things about the opposition.</b>

Happens with pseudo-liberals all over the world apparently. New York Times had Hillary's chances of winning at 96% just a few hours before the results came out.
 
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