A fantastic World Cup format because...

[JellyBro]

If this was an old format, SA would have been out of the game already and maybe Pakistan too. I personally love this format. You get to see your team play a handful of matches and not see them eliminated after losing just one game. And who really cares about minnows if we are being honest. It's good to support them on forums but how many actually turn on the tv and watch those boring games ? Secondly, weak teams arent going to get stronger by playing just one tournament. That's a totally separate issue. I'm glad they pick the top 9 teams. Would you rather watch Zimbabwe vs Australia or Pakistan vs Australia?

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Cricket fans " this is the best format because there are absolutely zero dead rubber games, every match counts for every team"

South Africa *face 6 dead rubbers, spread out over a month after only a week and 3 losses*

 

[HitWicket]

Cricket fans " this is the best format because there are absolutely zero dead rubber games, every match counts for every team"

South Africa *face 6 dead rubbers, spread out over a month after only a week and 3 losses*

Pretty sure 6 wins would give them a good chance of qualifying?

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Pretty sure 6 wins would give them a good chance of qualifying?

About as much chance of that happening as me lifting the trophy.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

This format is the best imo.

The excitement will become apparent later in the round robin when we know what matches each team has to win to qualify for the semis.

The last several world cups had terrible formats imo.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Cricket fans " this is the best format because there are absolutely zero dead rubber games, every match counts for every team"

South Africa *face 6 dead rubbers, spread out over a month after only a week and 3 losses*

No actually.

SA will be playing for pride and could very well deny a team the chance to qualify for semis. That is assuming that SA can't qualify themselves still.

Eg, Pak play SA later in the tournament. Pak may require a win against them to qualify for semis. You think SA will just let Pak win for fun? No way, they will fight all the way to win.

 

[Chokli]

Cricket fans " this is the best format because there are absolutely zero dead rubber games, every match counts for every team"

South Africa *face 6 dead rubbers, spread out over a month after only a week and 3 losses*

Stop being so salty.

This has been one of the most unpredictable World Cups.

A team such as Ireland who have been playing for as long as they have should have done a better job in the qualifiers.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Cricket fans " this is the best format because there are absolutely zero dead rubber games, every match counts for every team"

South Africa *face 6 dead rubbers, spread out over a month after only a week and 3 losses*

You are not wrong completely. South Africa's world cup looks already over after just 3 matches out of 9.

 

[tahir_dj]

Problem is some minnows i.e ireland scotland and other is even their own people dont know much about cricket. They mainly follow football so they dont really add anything new.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

In the last week (about a third of a football world cup or rugby one for comparison) we've had

NZ thrash Afg by 7 wickets
England easily beat BD by 106 runs
India ease past the Aussies by 36 runs (Aus never really looked like winning)
A wash out
A wash out
Australia beat Pakistan fairly comfortably (Wahab made it look closer than it really was)
A wash out
England trounce WI by 8 wickets with 20 overs to spare
Australia beat SL by 90 runs
Afghanistan trashed by SA

7 days - 10 games. 3 no results, 1 properly competitve match (India vs Aus)

And if India win tomorrow the Top 4 will already have a clear gap on the rest with over half the group stage to come, anda very high probability of being semi finalists.

Riveting stuff

 

[Chokli]

In the last week (about a third of a football world cup or rugby one for comparison) we've had

NZ thrash Afg by 7 wickets
England easily beat BD by 106 runs
India ease past the Aussies by 36 runs (Aus never really looked like winning)
A wash out
A wash out
Australia beat Pakistan fairly comfortably (Wahab made it look closer than it really was)
A wash out
England trounce WI by 8 wickets with 20 overs to spare
Australia beat SL by 90 runs
Afghanistan trashed by SA

7 days - 10 games. 3 no results, 1 properly competitve match (India vs Aus)

And if India win tomorrow the Top 4 will already have a clear gap on the rest with over half the group stage to come, anda very high probability of being semi finalists.

Riveting stuff

As if Ireland being in the World Cup would have changed anything.

Didn't you wish for this World Cup to be a complete wash out? You got your wish.

Minnows will never ever be in the World Cup again.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

As if Ireland being in the World Cup would have changed anything.

Didn't you wish for this World Cup to be a complete wash out? You got your wish.

Minnows will never ever be in the World Cup again.

My wish is for some semblance of sense to be restored and for an actual World Cup to take place instead of this joke. If the ICC want a money fest where India play a guaranteed 7 plus games thats what the Champions Trophy exists for. This event should be an actual world one.

And before someone mentions Ireland for the fiftieth time, I'm more aware than you of our problems trust me. But all I've heard for the last 8 years is how "minnows" are the reason world cups are so boring and so long and so one sided.

Yet here we have the much lauded 10 team format with no "minnows" where about 75% of games have been one sided, the tournament is dull as hell and its even longer than previous ones )

Enjoying it tbh. Unless your argument is "I want India to play as many games as possible to earn the most money" then there is zero justifying this awful format, because its evidently clear now 2 weeks in that it does not solve the problems of 2011 or 2015, in fact it makes them worse.

 

[Chokli]

My wish is for some semblance of sense to be restored and for an actual World Cup to take place instead of this joke. If the ICC want a money fest where India play a guaranteed 7 plus games thats what the Champions Trophy exists for. This event should be an actual world one.

And before someone mentions Ireland for the fiftieth time, I'm more aware than you of our problems trust me. But all I've heard for the last 8 years is how "minnows" are the reason world cups are so boring and so long and so one sided.

Yet here we have the much lauded 10 team format with no "minnows" where about 75% of games have been one sided, the tournament is dull as hell and its even longer than previous ones )

Enjoying it tbh. Unless your argument is "I want India to play as many games as possible to earn the most money" then there is zero justifying this awful format, because its evidently clear now 2 weeks in that it does not solve the problems of 2011 or 2015, in fact it makes them worse.

The best format was the 2007 format if we wanted to make up for the loss revenue that minnows bring.

But I hope more matches get washed out at the World Cup - For different reasons than yours

 

[BDfanforever]

In the last week (about a third of a football world cup or rugby one for comparison) we've had

NZ thrash Afg by 7 wickets
England easily beat BD by 106 runs
India ease past the Aussies by 36 runs (Aus never really looked like winning)
A wash out
A wash out
Australia beat Pakistan fairly comfortably (Wahab made it look closer than it really was)
A wash out
England trounce WI by 8 wickets with 20 overs to spare
Australia beat SL by 90 runs
Afghanistan trashed by SA

7 days - 10 games. 3 no results, 1 properly competitve match (India vs Aus)

And if India win tomorrow the Top 4 will already have a clear gap on the rest with over half the group stage to come, anda very high probability of being semi finalists.

Riveting stuff

These were good matches:
BD vs NZ
PAK vs ENG
RSA vs BD
IND vs Aus

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Also worth pointing out that Afghanistan lost to Scotland, Zimbabwe and Hong Kong (who got relegated to WCL Division 2 a year later) so this argument that adding more teams dilutes quality is nonsense.

There are a host of sides of a very similar level of quality outside the Top 8. Afghanistan/Ireland/Zimbabwe/Scotland. WI wouldnt even be here but for rain and they've done pretty well havent they.

This isnt 2007 or 2003 when there were zero actually decent teams outside the top 8 and the likes of Canada were getting bowled out for 25 (and I'd add even then those sides actually managed some tangible achievements despite being miles off the pace) there's several, and the qualifier showed that if they play each other they produce some incredible games of cricket. Ire vs Scot, Scot vs Zim, Zim vs Afg all sensational games that would've greatly enhanced any world cup as they have before (Ire vs UAE, Ire vs Zim, Afg vs Scot from 2015 alone were all great).

And while obviously those teams have tiny fanbases compared to most, cricket fans at a world cup will watch anything if its good. You mean to tell me if, for example, the Scotland vs Afghanistan game of 2015 took place here that nobody would watch care? That the hundreds of millions of fans would just ignore it?Please, Its exactly what this tournament is crying out for!

Cut the tournament as much as you like, one sided boring games are a part of the game and will always happen.

 

[Technics 1210]

This guy is proper hurt that Ireland did not qualify. He is basically saying he prefers a minnow to be knocked out after 2 games, opposed to playing 9 games. Brilliant.

 

[Markhor]

The rain gods don't like the 10 team format.

 

[Chokli]

Cut the tournament as much as you like, one sided boring games are a part of the game and will always happen.

Not when money is on the line.

 

[Anwar]

This format is the best, most fair to be best you have to face everyone.
World Cup should be kept to 10 max 12 teams. It should be difficult and be the hardest trophy to win.

For smaller teams T20 WC can be used to bring them into play.
Or another ODI tournament since Champions Trophy has been scrapped I believe.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Not when money is on the line.

But you can still easily make bags of money regardless, its not like its one or the other, why not both?

Make the CT a round robin with semi finals and it can print money. Nobody cares if that is an exclusive tournament since thats the point of it (even though it was originally founded to spread the game thats aside the point and can be ignored).

Its very possible to have a WC format that is inclusive, not too watered down and still has India play bags of games for the ICC to make cash off of. the 2011/2015 ones were fine from that regard. 2007 also would've been fine had India and Pakistan not been awful. India would've had, potentially, 10 matches then if I'm not mistaken but we all know how that went.

 

[Chokli]

But you can still easily make bags of money regardless, its not like its one or the other, why not both?

Make the CT a round robin with semi finals and it can print money. Nobody cares if that is an exclusive tournament since thats the point of it (even though it was originally founded to spread the game thats aside the point and can be ignored).

Its very possible to have a WC format that is inclusive, not too watered down and still has India play bags of games for the ICC to make cash off of. the 2011/2015 ones were fine from that regard. 2007 also would've been fine had India and Pakistan not been awful. India would've had, potentially, 10 matches then if I'm not mistaken but we all know how that went.

Yes only way to keep everyone happy is the 2007 format

 

[Donal Cozzie]

So at the halfway stage (still about two weeks of group stage to go! ) )

Afghanistan are out
SA, with their remaining games, are 99% out
Pakistan 3 points from 5 games are 99% out
WI 3 points from 5 games are out
BD have an outside shot, 1 more loss though and its curtains

Australia/India/England/NZ in pole position. NZ, having to play Aus and England yet, most likely to slip up and be caught.

India,Australia and England are 99% qualified barring a spectacular choke.

Lots and lots of lovely dead rubber games to come folks

 

[Gilly]

So at the halfway stage (still about two weeks of group stage to go! ) )

Afghanistan are out
SA, with their remaining games, are 99% out
Pakistan 3 points from 5 games are 99% out
WI 3 points from 5 games are out
BD have an outside shot, 1 more loss though and its curtains

Australia/India/England/NZ in pole position. NZ, having to play Aus and England yet, most likely to slip up and be caught.

India,Australia and England are 99% qualified barring a spectacular choke.

Lots and lots of lovely dead rubber games to come folks

Are you sure that cricket is your game, I dont know why someone would follow a series just so they can complain about it. It obviously upsets you so why watch it.

 

[JattMaula]

Are you sure that cricket is your game, I dont know why someone would follow a series just so they can complain about it. It obviously upsets you so why watch it.

A cricket fan will obviously follow the World Cup. He has every right to complain the ridiculous format of the tournament.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Are you sure that cricket is your game, I dont know why someone would follow a series just so they can complain about it. It obviously upsets you so why watch it.

Because I'm a cricket fan mate. Being a cricket fan and being a fan of a ten team format arent mutually exclusive things.

Watched an hour of India vs Pak and an hour of today's game, other than that, might have cricinfo open on a tab thats about it.

If my complaining bothers you so much dont open the thread. I do love how all the nay sayers have ignored all the valid arguments I make in favour of a) saying Ireland are crap (which I know) or b) telling me to shut up. Almost as if the arguments they spouted for years about this format are actually complete nonsense....

 

[aloo paratha]

So at the halfway stage (still about two weeks of group stage to go! ) )

Afghanistan are out
SA, with their remaining games, are 99% out
Pakistan 3 points from 5 games are 99% out
WI 3 points from 5 games are out
BD have an outside shot, 1 more loss though and its curtains

Australia/India/England/NZ in pole position. NZ, having to play Aus and England yet, most likely to slip up and be caught.

India,Australia and England are 99% qualified barring a spectacular choke.

Lots and lots of lovely dead rubber games to come folks

Yep. Terrible format. Hope they change 2023 format to have 2 groups of 7 with a Super 6 stage. The Super 6 stage allows ICC to get more revenue from top sides playing each other in matches that are actually meaningful. Super 6 also ensures that the most amount of group games are competitive because teams have an incentive to still go out there and play for a win as points carry forward and a win in a group game can be the difference between a semi final spot and a plane ticket back home.

What would you like?

 

[Bangladesh_Fan]

So at the halfway stage (still about two weeks of group stage to go! ) )

Afghanistan are out
SA, with their remaining games, are 99% out
Pakistan 3 points from 5 games are 99% out
WI 3 points from 5 games are out
BD have an outside shot, 1 more loss though and its curtains

Australia/India/England/NZ in pole position. NZ, having to play Aus and England yet, most likely to slip up and be caught.

India,Australia and England are 99% qualified barring a spectacular choke.

Lots and lots of lovely dead rubber games to come folks

Bangladesh can still qualify with one more loss if they beat Aus, Afg and Pak. Then Australia will just have to fail to win 2 against ENG/SA/NZ Or NZ has to win only one from their remaining games and BD will be through

 

[jnaveen1980]

This format rewards the consistent teams. Just that rain ruined the fun. THe reason results are already decided because there is an insurmountable gap between quality of some of the teams. BD is still in the reckoning. NZ has so far played easier games. BD has beaten WI and SA. Afghanistan going out should not shock anyone. SO is Windies which is a lower ranked team as well. Pakistan is also lower ranked side. SA going out is a surprise. Youc an put that down to loss of key bowlers and an inexperienced squad. You cannot possibly other teams are better than these 4? BD vs NZ is a bit closer. Bt still anyone of them in the last 4 shouldn't surprise you.

 

[Gilly]

Because I'm a cricket fan mate. Being a cricket fan and being a fan of a ten team format arent mutually exclusive things.

Watched an hour of India vs Pak and an hour of today's game, other than that, might have cricinfo open on a tab thats about it.

If my complaining bothers you so much dont open the thread. I do love how all the nay sayers have ignored all the valid arguments I make in favour of a) saying Ireland are crap (which I know) or b) telling me to shut up. Almost as if the arguments they spouted for years about this format are actually complete nonsense....

I was thinking more about your welfare, I couldent care less how much cricket you watch.

You seem to be upset about the one sided matches and your solution is to dilute the quality of cricket.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Australia, ENgland, India top favorites from the get go. Australia the defending champions with the return of Warner, SMithy have become stronger. They have all the ingredients to win the gap. Also mentally stronger.
England no need to say anything there. They have dedicated 4 years for this occasion and they were fine tuning their side right till the end (by including Archer), India has some top ICC ranked batsmen and bowlers. NZ , SA, Pak, WI were supposed to fight for 4th spot. WI showed their true colors. SA also fizzled out. Pakistan was hoping for a miracle. Didn't happen. BD who was never billed as semi final favorites have suddenly found themselves in a situation where they can actually qualify.

 

[Hasan123]

12 teams in 2 groups of 6 seems a better format to me . With the top 2 in each group getting through. Could do it over a 4 week period and have more than 1 game in a day to make it more exciting.

 

[Hasan123]

Australia, ENgland, India top favorites from the get go. Australia the defending champions with the return of Warner, SMithy have become stronger. They have all the ingredients to win the gap. Also mentally stronger.
England no need to say anything there. They have dedicated 4 years for this occasion and they were fine tuning their side right till the end (by including Archer), India has some top ICC ranked batsmen and bowlers. NZ , SA, Pak, WI were supposed to fight for 4th spot. WI showed their true colors. SA also fizzled out. Pakistan was hoping for a miracle. Didn't happen. BD who was never billed as semi final favorites have suddenly found themselves in a situation where they can actually qualify.

Don’t see Bangladesh beating India and Australia. NZ should beat Pakistan and West Indies. Very unlikely that Bangladesh will qualify. But they have done well in their 2 games.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

I was thinking more about your welfare, I couldent care less how much cricket you watch.

You seem to be upset about the one sided matches and your solution is to dilute the quality of cricket.

Nope. One sided matches are part and parcel of every tournament. My issue is this format is harming the sport significantly outside the top teams and for what, a borefest. Say what you like about the 2011/2015 format at least in that England in 2011 and Pak/WI/Ire in 2015 meant that at least one group actually went to the wire.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Yep. Terrible format. Hope they change 2023 format to have 2 groups of 7 with a Super 6 stage. The Super 6 stage allows ICC to get more revenue from top sides playing each other in matches that are actually meaningful. Super 6 also ensures that the most amount of group games are competitive because teams have an incentive to still go out there and play for a win as points carry forward and a win in a group game can be the difference between a semi final spot and a plane ticket back home.

What would you like?

A realistic compromise that ensure the "Big" sides cant go home early since after 2007 thats clearly sacrilege, and that the world cup is actually worthy of its name.

None of this 20 team rubbish but none of this 10 either. There are 14 teams well capable of playing on a world stage in cricket. The depth is better than ever before. Last year a side ranked 14th in ODI's beat the number 1 ranked team. When has that ever happened before in cricket history? Even Hong bloody Kong, not even in the Top 5 best Associates, gave India a scare.

I feel two options satisfy that criteria of keeping India raking the money in while keeping the tournament open.

1. 2011/2015 again.
2. 12 team tournament, two groups of six, top four of each group enter a super 8 stage where they play the teams they havent already played yet (i.e points earned from the first stage vs the sides in your group who also make the S8's carry over so you dont repeat matches). Then the Top 4 go to the semis.

Of course I could propose ten different and arguably better ones but the reality is a format that doesnt have India playing at least 6 or 7 group stage games is never gonna fly anymore so there's no point wasting our time discussing it.

 

[Gilly]

Nope. One sided matches are part and parcel of every tournament. My issue is this format is harming the sport significantly outside the top teams and for what, a borefest. Say what you like about the 2011/2015 format at least in that England in 2011 and Pak/WI/Ire in 2015 meant that at least one group actually went to the wire.

If you think the ten best teams are a borefest then the top 12 teams is going to be a sleepathon.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

It should actually be cut to 9 teams and there should be reserve days for rain. Best format. Only consistent teams are rewarded here. Big match pedigree will be tested in the semis and final anyway. The remaining matches are dead rubbers only for those teams that can't seem to buy a win.

 

[Executioner]

This tournament has highlighted the gap between top 4/5 teams and other teams. I think what this world cup needs is South Africa and Pakistan to win more against top teams and for SL and AFG to cause a few upsets.

 

[Sunzi]

To be the best, you have to beat the best.

Best format from determining the cricketing best POV.

Minimum of 9 games for each team from a marketing/fans POV.

Love it.

 

[Balthazar]

Best format. And adding 2-4 associates will only dilute the quality even further. Only the best teams can make it into semifinal stage in this format.

 

[Sidilicious]

A realistic compromise that ensure the "Big" sides cant go home early since after 2007 thats clearly sacrilege, and that the world cup is actually worthy of its name.

None of this 20 team rubbish but none of this 10 either. There are 14 teams well capable of playing on a world stage in cricket. The depth is better than ever before. Last year a side ranked 14th in ODI's beat the number 1 ranked team. When has that ever happened before in cricket history? Even Hong bloody Kong, not even in the Top 5 best Associates, gave India a scare.

I feel two options satisfy that criteria of keeping India raking the money in while keeping the tournament open.

1. 2011/2015 again.
2. 12 team tournament, two groups of six, top four of each group enter a super 8 stage where they play the teams they havent already played yet (i.e points earned from the first stage vs the sides in your group who also make the S8's carry over so you dont repeat matches). Then the Top 4 go to the semis.

Of course I could propose ten different and arguably better ones but the reality is a format that doesnt have India playing at least 6 or 7 group stage games is never gonna fly anymore so there's no point wasting our time discussing it.

No.

The best format that fulfills al criteria are
Round 1 - 2 Groups of 7 teams = 14 teams

Round 2

Option 1 - Top 2 teams of each group make it to the semis. Pro - No meaningless games; even if India does not make it to the top 2, they are out of semis and finals. Same if India lost in the QF in 2011 or 2015. Con - Broadcaster might complain due to lack of macthes at business end.

OR

Option 2 - Super 6 stage like 99 and 03.
Pro - Enough top teams compete in the business end. Middle ground between having top 2 from each group qualify to top 3. Cons - Could stretch a bit, and a few meaningless games.

OR

Option 3 - Teams placed 2 and 3 in the opposite groups, play the elimination round. the winner of the elimination round, takes on the topper in the group in the semis. A bit like IPL.
Pro - No meaningless games. A few more games than just playing semis in business end. Cons - Teams placed 2 and 3 get extra matches.

My favourite is still Option 1. 2015 format, but instead of QF, go straight to finals. No meaning less games. Even games against minnows are important for NRR. Might have 1 team clear. But there will a tight finish generally for the 2nd spot in the group.

 

[Executioner]

I would like to see ICC to arrange a world cup qualifier where all teams barring the top 5 need to qualify. That will mean around 10 odd teams need to qualify for the last 10 spot. What that will do is give associate teams a sense of participating against the big boys in a tussle for glory. However, i do agree world cup and qualifier aren't too different.

The issue with associate nations is, there are too many dead rubbers. Ireland vs UAE won't be of much purpose. Perhaps over time as the associates improve they can be incorporated in the main world cup.

Also, I would like to add that this is considering that the ICC also increases the participation for WT20 among associate teams.

 

[Pakhs]

This tournament has highlighted the gap between top 4/5 teams and other teams. I think what this world cup needs is South Africa and Pakistan to win more against top teams and for SL and AFG to cause a few upsets.

Pakistan already won against England so far they only lost to one team they were suppose to beat WI, they can now beat the rest of the teams they are going to play.

 

[Pakhs]

The tournament is definitely too long. As a fan you have no choice but to switch off for few games here and there.

 

[pakpassfan]

I hate this format. this is made like IPL just to please India. this format works in IPL because all the teams are all most same strength but in the world cup not its not like this

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

I hate this format. this is made like IPL just to please India. this format works in IPL because all the teams are all most same strength but in the world cup not its not like this

Isn't PSL or any other league of the same format? 1992 WC was also of the same format

 

[aloo paratha]

Shocking how people can defend this format. Still 3 weeks of the group stage left, and unless some crazy and very unlikely chain of results happen, the top 4 are pretty much confirmed.

 

[Executioner]

Shocking how people can defend this format. Still 3 weeks of the group stage left, and unless some crazy and very unlikely chain of results happen, the top 4 are pretty much confirmed.

I think it also has to do a lot with luck. But yes i am afraid that the last few matches might turn into a dead rubber. Which is why I said the gap between 4/5th team has been highlighted.

Teams like WI and Pakistan had good oppurtunity to beat Australia, BD could have beaten NZ. Also, NZ had washout vs NZ, BD and Pak had washout against SL.

The issue is, the next 2 weeks of cricket might be one sided.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

I think it also has to do a lot with luck. But yes i am afraid that the last few matches might turn into a dead rubber. Which is why I said the gap between 4/5th team has been highlighted.

Teams like WI and Pakistan had good oppurtunity to beat Australia, BD could have beaten NZ. Also, NZ had washout vs NZ, BD and Pak had washout against SL.

The issue is, the next 2 weeks of cricket might be one sided.

Get your act up and def Aus, it's not impossible, will keep the wc open.

 

[baggy blue]

Best format and good world cup if we can ignore rain.
My first post in this really cool forum

 

[Abdullah719]

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[Hasan123]

The reason posters hate this format is because Pakistan can't qualify.

I don't hate this format as I want to see the best play the best. Ut I think a 12 team tournament would be better. As need to grow cricket . Also upsets are more likely in that format.

 

[Abdulm123]

Been enjoying the world cup so far, rain and one sided matches are a few downsides of the world cup but I have been enjoying most of the matches so far. This cup is definitely better then the 2015 slog cup

 

[Anik Sharma]

Do Japan, Korea, Venezuela play to win the WCs in fifa? 10 teams format supporters, please tell me?