A minority of corrupt elements has united to escape punishment: PM Imran Khan

[MenInG]

Prime Minister Imran Khan said on Sunday that a small minority of corrupt elements had united to escape the course of the law.

"The government can't fight mafias alone. We can't eliminate corruption without the support of the judiciary," he added.

The premier's remarks came as he responded to a live caller during a telephonic session.

He is responding to citizens’ calls on the number 051-9224900.

"We had asked Nawaz Sharif to submit a surety bond but the judiciary sent him abroad," the premier remarked.

He noted that those who loot the country are showered with petals following their conviction from NAB courts.

"People like us are striving to bring such elements under the law," he maintained.

"We need to change the collective mindset to end corruption in Pakistan once and for all."

PM Imran further said that Pakistan's struggle was for the supremacy of law.

Regarding the third wave of Covid-19, the premier ruled out a complete lockdown, but assured certain restrictions.

Observing that the people were "roaming around without fear", he feared that doing so would pressurise the hospitals.

While speaking to another caller, he said that rise in price of sugar was owing to the corrupt practices of the sugar mafia.

Responding to a caller regarding the increase in incidents of child sexual abuse, he said, "It is the direct result of the increase in immodesty in any country. Obscenity always has its impact on a society."

"Islam sets the rules for modesty for a reason," he maintained.

He urged filmmakers to pay attention towards the issue and develop some content to counter the threat.

To another question, the premier said, "qabza mafia is the biggest scourge for this country. Such mafia colludes with the government to fulfill its designs."

"We managed to get the land worth Rs450 billion freed from such elements."

PM made it clear that he would not take any step to normalise relations with India unless it retreats from depriving occupied Kashmir from its autonomous status.

"Have faith in me, I will never take any measure that will undermine Kashmir," he maintained.

Answering a caller, he said, "I will take measures to ensure that essential commodities are within the reach of the masses during Ramazan."

Earlier, in February, the premier interacted with the public via telephone to address their concerns.

It was the first-ever direct telephonic interaction between PM Imran and the general public since he became head of the government in 2018.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/229320...t-elements-has-united-to-escape-punishment-pm

 

[saeedhk]

Can somebody tell him that obscenity has no direct relationship with child sex abuse. And, is there even any obscenity in Pakistan? This person will never cease to portray himself as the most pious Muslim.

 

[MenInG]

PM Imran Khan said govt will be forced to impose major restrictions if people don't follow anti-COVID SOPs. He said only minor restrictions are imposed to stop the wave from spreading rapidly but if this spreads, it will have very negative impact & we'll be forced to take steps.

 

[saeedhk]

PM Imran Khan said govt will be forced to impose major restrictions if people don't follow anti-COVID SOPs. He said only minor restrictions are imposed to stop the wave from spreading rapidly but if this spreads, it will have very negative impact & we'll be forced to take steps.

He is just lying to himself and the public. Nobody is following SOPs since the pandemic began.

 

[Mamoon]

“Live call” )

All the calls are scripted and are screened first. If he takes actual live calls, he will get abused by the public for destroying the economy.

 

[Kianig89]

No answer on liquor factory it was a scripted session

 

[MenInG]

“Live call” )

All the calls are scripted and are screened first. If he takes actual live calls, he will get abused by the public for destroying the economy.

Very normal for that to happen.

 

[Giannis]

No answer on liquor factory it was a scripted session

That's not illegal, I'm sure Pakistan has had breweries before

 

[ahmedzee]

“Live call” )

All the calls are scripted and are screened first. If he takes actual live calls, he will get abused by the public for destroying the economy.

And you were there to actually see that these were scripted and not live? What a tool!

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

“Live call” )

All the calls are scripted and are screened first. If he takes actual live calls, he will get abused by the public for destroying the economy.

Yes, the calls do sound scripted and so do his responses. Who would ve thought for some easy $$$ and fame, he will fall down to this level.

A Shameless and characterless individual.

 

[Bigboii]

“Live call” )

All the calls are scripted and are screened first. If he takes actual live calls, he will get abused by the public for destroying the economy.

Should be he is a sitting pm damnit there's some respect for the office

 

[El Generico]

Yes, the calls do sound scripted and so do his responses. Who would ve thought for some easy $$$ and fame, he will fall down to this level.

A Shameless and characterless individual.

I am not a big supporter of his but your points don’t add up. Why would Imran Khan need fame, wasn’t he already the most famous person in Pakistan? Also he could have made money pretty easily by doing cricket analysis on major channels.

He is not very smart if he chose to come into politics for money or fame considering a guy of his stature probably had dozens of easier ways to make big money.

 

[Mamoon]

Yes, the calls do sound scripted and so do his responses. Who would ve thought for some easy $$$ and fame, he will fall down to this level.

A Shameless and characterless individual.

Should be he is a sitting pm damnit there's some respect for the office

He has no choice but to resort to these cheap gimmicks because he knows he has completely failed to deliver as PM.

He thought running the country would be like captaining a cricket team. He has had a brutal reality-check over the last 3 years.

You cannot feel sorry for him because he has brought this on himself. He projected himself as a messiah and thought he had a magic wand that would fix the country.

He hyped himself so much with his self-righteousness that he did not leave himself any room for failure.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

I am not a big supporter of his but your points don’t add up. Why would Imran Khan need fame, wasn’t he already the most famous person in Pakistan? Also he could have made money pretty easily by doing cricket analysis on major channels.

He is not very smart if he chose to come into politics for money or fame considering a guy of his stature probably had dozens of easier ways to make big money.

What stature? He played his cricket long time ago, when things were not as lucrative as they are now. Also he has always been a playboy, so who knows how much did he really save up for his retirement age. He is no better than likes of Kapil Dev and Ambrose. Also in many interviews Imran khan himself has admitted that he didnt have much money left for his hospital project.

As for commentating and expert analysis gigs are concerned, if it was all this straight forward and lucrative, then many cricketing greats like Wasim, Lara, Tandulkar and Viv Richards would be doing it.

 

[Mamoon]

And you were there to actually see that these were scripted and not live? What a tool!

As I said before, if Imran tells his supporters that he can go back in time, they will ask him how fast?

You have to him credit for the way he is able to manipulate and brainwash his supporters. As I have also said before, if he lived a few thousand years ago, he would have started his own religion.

He is a proper cult-leader.

You are free to believe that these calls were live, but if you utilize your common sense, you would know that not a single leader in the world will risk live calls with the public because plenty can go wrong.

You can get trolled, you can get abused and insulted, you can be asked questions that you cannot answer - there are thousands of possibilities.

That is why other leaders do not do this because the public is not foolish enough to believe that it is not scripted/screened. Hence it is a pointless exercise and serves no purpose.

The problem in Pakistan is that Imran is aware of the fact that when it comes to his brainwashed supporters, he can get away with anything because they will believe and trust anything that he says and does.

That is why he has had the nerve to do this gimmick because he knows most of his supporters would actually be naive enough to believe that it is actually real.

 

[El Generico]

What stature? He played his cricket long time ago, when things were not as lucrative as they are now. Also he has always been a playboy, so who knows how much did he really save up for his retirement age. He is no better than likes of Kapil Dev and Ambrose. Also in many interviews Imran khan himself has admitted that he didnt have much money left for his hospital project.

As for commentating and expert analysis gigs are concerned, if it was all this straight forward and lucrative, then many cricketing greats like Wasim, Lara, Tandulkar and Viv Richards would be doing it.

I mean they do, don’t they? Wasim is pretty much a full time commentator and has made enough money to start his own perfume brand and other businesses. Viv also does analysis as well as coaching/mentoring for franchises. Tendualkar is probably one of the richest cricketers of all time so he has no need to do any of this.

You really think IK couldn’t have made big money by signing up with Sky sports or Star? In fact he even mentioned that he got major bucks for a short stint he did as a analyst for the 2011 World Cup. He could easily made a decent amount if he did regular analysis or even commentary.


As for the fame bit, sure Imran Khan played cricket a long time ago but the 1992 World Cup is still talked about . In fact it’s pretty annoying how often that World Cup is brought up. Even most young Pakistani cricketer name him as their role model, it’s pretty obvious he is the most famous Pakistani cricket of all time, pretty sure he didn’t need politics for fame.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

I mean they do, don’t they? Wasim is pretty much a full time commentator and has made enough money to start his own perfume brand and other businesses. Viv also does analysis as well as coaching/mentoring for franchises. Tendualkar is probably one of the richest cricketers of all time so he has no need to do any of this.

You really think IK couldn’t have made big money by signing up with Sky sports or Star? In fact he even mentioned that he got major bucks for a short stint he did as a analyst for the 2011 World Cup. He could easily made a decent amount if he did regular analysis or even commentary.


As for the fame bit, sure Imran Khan played cricket a long time ago but the 1992 World Cup is still talked about . In fact it’s pretty annoying how often that World Cup is brought up. Even most young Pakistani cricketer name him as their role model, it’s pretty obvious he is the most famous Pakistani cricket of all time, pretty sure he didn’t need politics for fame.

May be you are right abt the fame and it can be that he has other motives like wanting to be the PM and getting the money that comes with it. Whatever the case, it’s disappointing to see him falling down to this level and becoming a mere finger puppet of his GHQ masters.

He could ve chosen a dignified existence like many other past cricket stars but he didn’t.

 

[El Generico]

[MENTION=144052]Bi_Jamalo[/MENTION] Also wasn’t Imran Khan married to a billionaire? Couldn’t he have just moved to England with her if easy money was all that he was after?

Like I said he is not very smart if he chose politics for easy money lol.

 

[El Generico]

May be you are right abt the fame and it can be that he has other motives like wanting to be the PM and getting the money that comes with it. Whatever the case, it’s disappointing to see him falling down to this level and becoming a mere finger puppet of his GHQ masters.

He could ve chosen a dignified existence like many other past cricket stars but he didn’t.

I don’t follow Pakistani politics closely so I am going to take your word for it. It’s sad though if he has turned into a puppet cause most Pakistanis had high hopes for him.

 

[Mamoon]

It is not about money and fame. If is avoid authority. Imran is a high grade narcissist who always wants to control people. That is why he had two failed marriages.

As captain, he regularly blackmailed PCB and made it clear that he will not lead the team unless everything is done on his terms.

He would regularly skip matches and give lame excuses (for example, it is too hot to play) because he knew he was untouchable.

When Pakistan won the World Cup, he didn’t say a word about his team and his players in the presentation ceremony and talked about his hospital project.

The entire World Cup campaign was about himself and his advertisement. The cornered tigers shirt that he wore at the toss in the final was not about the mentality of the team but his mentality that he wanted to show to the world.

After retirement, he could have lived a comfortable life in the UK or as a coach/commentator/PCB admin in Pakistan, but none of that appealed to him compared to joining politics and controlling millions of people.

He surrounds himself with sycophants and devotees. He feels threaded by anyone who questions him. He has adopted the “you are with me or against me” approach throughout his life.

 

[saeedhk]

I remember a decade back, PTI was known as a good-looking and beardless JI. This has become true. The way Imran has played the religious card and the way he has condoned violence and extremism and bent over backwards to appease mullahs, it is no doubt that Imran is the second coming of Zia.

From inspiring a Pakistani to attack innocent Frenchmen to now blaming rape on clothing style, this man has truly lost it. What a despicable and regressive person!

 

[MenInG]

Prime Minister Imran Khan on Sunday said he could not defeat corruption alone without the support of the judiciary.

Responding to the public's questions during a live broadcast session, the premier stressed the need for cohesive efforts by the society for the success of the jihad against corruption.

“A nation can fight corruption only through collective efforts. Imran Khan cannot fight it alone, the society as a whole has to fight it,” he added.

The premier maintained that the government had asked convicted PML-N supremo Nawaz Sharif to submit a surety bond but the judiciary sent him abroad for medical treatment.

He said corruption had permeated in all the poor countries of world and had even shaken the economies of rich ones.

He referred to the steps taken by Mahathir Mohamad to lift the Malaysian economy.

PM Imran said the powerful elite had embezzled the national wealth by holding on to powerful offices and then resorted to money laundering as they could not hide such huge amounts in their respective countries.

According to a UN watchdog panel report, about $1 trillion from poor countries were being laundered to the rich countries or tax havens, he said.

He added that $7 trillion had been stashed away in rich countries.

“The [Pakistani] government is striving to get the laundered money back.”

China has sent 450 ministers to jail on corruption charges and in Singapore, a minister killed himself after he was arrested for corruption, he added.

The prime minister regretted that in Pakistan, corrupt elements were warmly welcomed back and showered with flower petals.

Expressing his resolve, the premier said: “We have to win this fight – the fight for the rule of law. It's vital for the country's survival."


He added that all corrupt elements had gathered on one platform to pull down the PTI government because it was not giving them an NRO (a deal to end graft cases).

The prime minister said the real issue was rule of law, which was firmly imposed by Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) in the state of Madina.

The premier further said the government was trying to rein in inflation by going after cartels and mafias.

“The major reason behind the high inflation is this mafia that increases prices of essential commodities through hoarding,” he added.

PM Imran said the government had carried out an inquiry and was going to take action against the elements involved in the price hike of sugar and flour.

“The government is fully focused on controlling inflation.”

PM Imran said the government was going to introduce a “revolutionary agricultural policy” which would address the issue of demand and supply of food items and reduce the prices of essential items.

With the use of information technology, he added, we would be able to predict shortage of any commodity in time.

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To a query, the premier said the third wave of coronavirus was extremely dangerous in comparison with the previous two ones.

He asked citizens to strictly follow the standard operating procedures (SOPs) to protect themselves against Covid-19.

PM Imran warned that the government would be forced to impose major restrictions if citizens did not start adhering to the Covid-19 guidelines.

“I have noticed that people are not taking precautions while going out in public,” he added, pointing out that the government had not imposed lockdown or closed factories so far.

“We are only imposing minor restrictions so that this wave doesn't spread rapidly. But if this does, it will have a very negative impact and we will be forced to take steps,” he warned.

Responding to a caller regarding the increase in incidents of child sexual abuse, he said it was the direct result of the increase in immodesty in the country.

“Obscenity always has its impact on a society,” he added.

"Islam sets rules for modesty for a reason and it wants to protect women and the family system through its concept of morality," he maintained.


PM Imran added that when he saw the family system in the Europe in turmoil, he spoke to Turkish President Erdogan and brought the play Ertugrul to Pakistan.

He urged filmmakers to pay attention towards the issue and develop some content to counter the threat.

To a question, PM Imran replied that the government had retrieved land worth Rs450 million from illegal occupants in Punjab alone.

The government, he added, would not spare the powerful mafia, who had encroached upon its own lands and properties.

“The government has declared a war against them.”

A Lahore-based group of land grabbers had the backing of a political party, and even in past, the ministers and members of the parliament had gobbled the government's precious lands in Punjab, he added.

The mafia, the premier said, had also encroached upon the properties of overseas Pakistanis.

“A change could be brought through a consecutive struggle. There were two kinds of changes – a bloody revolution and a change through ballot,” he noted.

“The judiciary is completely independent as well as the NAB [National Accountability Bureau], which were previously controlled by the then governments,” he added.

Citing the Broadsheet Commission report, PM Imran said Justice (retd) Shaikh Azmat Saeed's findings had divulged that corrupt elements were protected in the scandal.

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"There is difference between a revolution and evolution. The latter will take time," he maintained.

The prime minister said his government had so far paid back $35,000 billion in debt, which the previous rulers had left behind.

“For the first time, a change is being felt and no one can stop it from happening, “ he claimed.

“The country in the past had only witnessed a two-party system. Now all of them stand on one platform, trying to get rid of Imran Khan's government. It is a change. The powerful, who always enjoyed privileged positions, are feeling it. My government will not spare anyone," he added.

Going after such elements, he said, had never been an easy task.

“Almost all developing countries are facing this ordeal. It is a kind of jihad we are waging. It's a jihad when you protect the feeble segments of your society.”

The prime minister said in Punjab alone, it was detected that a whooping amount of Rs600 billion was circulated in the accounts of sugar bookies.

He expressed his surprise as to why his political rivals did not talk about these changes, how the government had stabilised the country, its economy and rupee. "Something is happening as all the economic indicators are positive even in this pandemic," he added.

The changes, he said, could be felt in the automobile and construction sectors.

“Such changes would lift the country. Even the tourism sector alone would help lift Pakistan economically,” he claimed.

“For the first time in the country's history, the current account had been in surplus for the last seven months.”

The prime minister said the first year of his government was a horrible one as the country was facing an imminent default.

To a query, PM Imran made it clear that he would not take any step to normalise relations with India until it restored Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir's (IIOJK) semi-autonomous status.

"Have faith in me, I will never take any measure that will undermine Kashmir," he maintained.

“We have fought Kashmir's case at every forum. The cabinet only contemplated importing sugar from India," he added.

Responding to the premier's remarks, Sharif's daughter, PML-N Vice President Maryam Nawaz accused the ruling party of not fighting a jihad but stealing from the poor.

“Those who claim that this is the state of Madina, if it really were, you [PM Imran] would have reached your dreadful end by now,” she tweeted.

“Theft of flour, sugar, gas, votes and then this storm of price hike because of your incompetence. You call this jihad?”

She added that the prime minister and his government don't go to jihad but to rob the people.

“You snatch bread from the mouths of the poor and medicine from the sick. You break the backs of the people with electricity and gas bills. You oppress the oppressed. You kidnap [people] and you call it jihad?”

Maryam further said a fatwa should be issued against PM Imran for killing the country's 220 million inhabitants alive and calling it jihad.

“Get out of your 300-kanal palace in Bani Gala and see how people are cursing you.” (With input from APP)

 

[Mamoon]

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Same old rona dhona by Imran. He has been a broken record over the last 3 years.

He sounds like a defeated man who has implicitly admitted that his government has completely failed to deliver and live up to the expectations.

He thought running the country would be like captaining a cricket team. He hyped himself up and declared himself as the solution to all problems, only to suffer a brutal reality-check over the last 3 years.

Apart from his devotees who will follow him to Hell if he asks them to, the nation has lost faith in him and he has lost popular support.

They have realized that he has nothing to offer than words and false promises.

Truly the most incompetent, clueless and unprepared PM in Pakistan history. A complete failure.

 

[Bewal Express]

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Same old rona dhona by Imran. He has been a broken record over the last 3 years.

He sounds like a defeated man who has implicitly admitted that his government has completely failed to deliver and live up to the expectations.

He thought running the country would be like captaining a cricket team. He hyped himself up and declared himself as the solution to all problems, only to suffer a brutal reality-check over the last 3 years.

Apart from his devotees who will follow him to Hell if he asks them to, the nation has lost faith in him and he has lost popular support.

They have realized that he has nothing to offer than words and false promises.

Truly the most incompetent, clueless and unprepared PM in Pakistan history. A complete failure.

So let's see which of your 2 crooks you want him to be replaced by. Tell us wise one which of the 2 crooked parties, who according to each other are selected do you want. Are you finally going grow a pair and stick your mast to one crook or another. Lets see you run.

 

[Bewal Express]

^

Same old rona dhona by Imran. He has been a broken record over the last 3 years.

He sounds like a defeated man who has implicitly admitted that his government has completely failed to deliver and live up to the expectations.

He thought running the country would be like captaining a cricket team. He hyped himself up and declared himself as the solution to all problems, only to suffer a brutal reality-check over the last 3 years.

Apart from his devotees who will follow him to Hell if he asks them to, the nation has lost faith in him and he has lost popular support.

They have realized that he has nothing to offer than words and false promises.

Truly the most incompetent, clueless and unprepared PM in Pakistan history. A complete failure.

Let's see hear your reaction to this admission. The cat is out of the bag and this is from the horses mouth. Do you agree with Iqbal that the country was bankrupt when Kaptaan took over? Do you know what CAD is,do you know how an exchange rate is determined? Are you the most illiterate poster on the forum

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">یہ کیسی مضبوط معیشت اور جی ڈی پی چھوڑ کر گئے تھے کہ ارسطو صاحب فرما رہے تھے کہ پی ٹی آئی کو حکومت سنبھالتے ہی آئی ایم ایف کے پاس قرض کے لیے چلے جانا چاہئے تھا<br>مضبوط معیشت کو کیا آم لینے جانا چاہیے تھا IMFکے پاس؟ <a href="https://t.co/8YKP2sQAsj">pic.twitter.com/8YKP2sQAsj</a></p>— Dr. Shahbaz GiLL (@SHABAZGIL) <a href="https://twitter.com/SHABAZGIL/status/1378388244887334912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Major]

Zia ul haq used to do such dramaybazi.

You cant just call the pm here ), most of these calls are probably from tiger force or party workers. Some isi agents aswell.


Anyways, whats even more sad is that if you kisten to the call, and one fake person is talking about inflation, the leader of the country is outting blame on some mafias.


Oh bhai, you are the leader, its your duty to eradicate the cartels. I dont even get why he uses the word mafia. Its called cartel in economic terms.

 

[Major]

Immodesty doesnt promote sexual harrassment. Its the taboo culture that promotes it the segreagation.

You are asking for more taboo.

 

[Bewal Express]

Zia ul haq used to do such dramaybazi.

You cant just call the pm here ), most of these calls are probably from tiger force or party workers. Some isi agents aswell.


Anyways, whats even more sad is that if you kisten to the call, and one fake person is talking about inflation, the leader of the country is outting blame on some mafias.


Oh bhai, you are the leader, its your duty to eradicate the cartels. I dont even get why he uses the word mafia. Its called cartel in economic terms.

He should do what Billo did and kill any journalists that expose him.

 

[saeedhk]

Immodesty doesnt promote sexual harrassment. Its the taboo culture that promotes it the segreagation.

You are asking for more taboo.

Biggest victim-blamer in Pakistan’s history! No wonder Pakistan is a misogynistic country because our leader is a known victim-blamer. What I despise is this holier than thou attitude by Imran given his colourful youth. Now, he pretends to be the biggest momin and morally polices others.

Most of the pictures from IK’s youth are not even suitable for viewing with family but now he lectures others on morality and religiosity.

 

[Mamoon]

Biggest victim-blamer in Pakistan’s history! No wonder Pakistan is a misogynistic country because our leader is a known victim-blamer. What I despise is this holier than thou attitude by Imran given his colourful youth. Now, he pretends to be the biggest momin and morally polices others.

Most of the pictures from IK’s youth are not even suitable for viewing with family but now he lectures others on morality and religiosity.

It is just an act for public consumption. I bet if you put him to test today, he will not even know how to recite Surah Ikhlas just like Rehman Malik couldn’t.

He is not religious – never was and never will be. However, he has to fake it for PR.

 

[saeedhk]

It is just an act for public consumption. I bet if you put him to test today, he will not even know how to recite Surah Ikhlas just like Rehman Malik couldn’t.

He is not religious – never was and never will be. However, he has to fake it for PR.

Unlike his predecessors, Imran is the only PM who regularly uses religion to stall any criticism of his government. Almost every day, he says he is the protector of honor of the Prophet (PBUH), every day, he curses the West, every say he salivates about the Islamic conquests and silly Ertugrul hogwash, and every day he posts pictures of himself holding prayer beads. Just yesterday, he said that as a PM, he is waging jihad!

The funny thing is that a few weeks back, he was telling a bunch of students that they should not be influenced by the West but both of his sons are studying in Europe.

No other Pakistani PM influenced a man to slaughter innocent Europeans but Imran did. Zia has been reborn!

 

[Bewal Express]

It is just an act for public consumption. I bet if you put him to test today, he will not even know how to recite Surah Ikhlas just like Rehman Malik couldn’t.

He is not religious – never was and never will be. However, he has to fake it for PR.

Are you running again. I posed a couple of simple questions and you don't have the courage to even debate. Why do you post on here if you don't have the cajones. So once again tell me if AI is telling the truth about the IMF?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">یہ کیسی مضبوط معیشت اور جی ڈی پی چھوڑ کر گئے تھے کہ ارسطو صاحب فرما رہے تھے کہ پی ٹی آئی کو حکومت سنبھالتے ہی آئی ایم ایف کے پاس قرض کے لیے چلے جانا چاہئے تھا<br>مضبوط معیشت کو کیا آم لینے جانا چاہیے تھا IMFکے پاس؟ <a href="https://t.co/8YKP2sQAsj">pic.twitter.com/8YKP2sQAsj</a></p>— Dr. Shahbaz GiLL (@SHABAZGIL) <a href="https://twitter.com/SHABAZGIL/status/1378388244887334912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Mamoon]

Unlike his predecessors, Imran is the only PM who regularly uses religion to stall any criticism of his government. Almost every day, he says he is the protector of honor of the Prophet (PBUH), every day, he curses the West, every say he salivates about the Islamic conquests and silly Ertugrul hogwash, and every day he posts pictures of himself holding prayer beads. Just yesterday, he said that as a PM, he is waging jihad!

The funny thing is that a few weeks back, he was telling a bunch of students that they should not be influenced by the West but both of his sons are studying in Europe.

No other Pakistani PM influenced a man to slaughter innocent Europeans but Imran did. Zia has been reborn!

He is a master manipulator. He knows how powerful the religious card and how you can sway the gullible public by focusing on India and Kashmir.

He has used religion and Kashmir as distractions from the failures of his government.

He has destroyed the economy but the nation should watch Ertugrul and take pride in the achievements of the Ottomans. What a joke.

 

[Bewal Express]

He is a master manipulator. He knows how powerful the religious card and how you can sway the gullible public by focusing on India and Kashmir.

He has used religion and Kashmir as distractions from the failures of his government.

He has destroyed the economy but the nation should watch Ertugrul and take pride in the achievements of the Ottomans. What a joke.

Why are you running. Iqbal is supposed to be the member of a competent govt. Are you so illiterate that you have to hide. You said these guys were the competent crooks, and here he is saying that we bankrupted the country. You act as the big guy around here, and when you face me, your freeze and run. Why is that. We need answers from you, or you should stop posting altogether

 

[ahmedzee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Buwvy3Mr8A
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

You think this is scripted?
Try asking Maryam nawaz or Nawaz Sharif such a question. Even if you are a well known journalist, you won't be asking him such a question. You would be scared to do so and risking your career and life and that of your family.

Now onus is on you to prove that this call was scripted. If you don't have a proof, then just shut up with all this non-sense.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

I sadly feel Imran Khan the greatest cricketer of this country is making a mockery of himself with his incongruent and baseless statements. I used to love him and still do but he's undoing himself. So much cringe!

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

PM Imran added that when he saw the family system in the Europe in turmoil, he spoke to Turkish President Erdogan and brought the play Ertugrul to Pakistan.

I mean, what the hell? It's just a goddamn serial damnit!

 

[saeedhk]

I mean, what the hell? It's just a goddamn serial damnit!

This man has lost his mental capacity. He needs a good doctor.

 

[Mamoon]

PM Imran added that when he saw the family system in the Europe in turmoil, he spoke to Turkish President Erdogan and brought the play Ertugrul to Pakistan.

Jesus Christ. ) ) ) )

 

[Mamoon]

This man has lost his mental capacity. He needs a good doctor.

He has become disillusioned.

The failure of his government and the fact that he failed to live up to the self-created expectations have taken a toll on him.

He is mentally unstable at the moment.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I mean, what the hell? It's just a goddamn serial damnit!

Exactly. So why do so many posters keep mentioning it in every other thread? The content seems to cause heart palpitations for a select few, perhaps because a few of the characters hit too close to home.

 

[Bewal Express]

PM Imran added that when he saw the family system in the Europe in turmoil, he spoke to Turkish President Erdogan and brought the play Ertugrul to Pakistan.

Jesus Christ. ) ) ) )

I haven't seen it but a friend of mine thought it was brilliant and said exactly what Kaptaan is saying, that it's great family viewing. My friend thinks I would love it but I am not into long serials.

 

[Bewal Express]

He has become disillusioned.

The failure of his government and the fact that he failed to live up to the self-created expectations have taken a toll on him.

He is mentally unstable at the moment.

Maybe you can start some crappy oust the Kaptaan movement with criminals wanting to escape from justice. I see your Nani has started to beg to leave, it won't be long before you start quote her Doctor and tell us she is dying and IK is trying to kill her.

 

[Bewal Express]

Exactly. So why do so many posters keep mentioning it in every other thread? The content seems to cause heart palpitations for a select few, perhaps because a few of the characters hit too close to home.

As I have said I haven't seen it, but maybe it shows a mirror to immoral losers with nothing but money as their God.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Exactly. So why do so many posters keep mentioning it in every other thread? The content seems to cause heart palpitations for a select few, perhaps because a few of the characters hit too close to home.

Dear captain, I quoted Imran Khan in this case. There's nothing wrong in watching this series and it's quite good actually. But a prime minister saying these random things I felt really unnecessary and below his stature.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Dear captain, I quoted Imran Khan in this case. There's nothing wrong in watching this series and it's quite good actually. But a prime minister saying these random things I felt really unnecessary and below his stature.

Did you consider he may be talking to the audience in the language they understand? What is it he has said exactly that you find objectionable?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Dear captain, I quoted Imran Khan in this case. There's nothing wrong in watching this series and it's quite good actually. But a prime minister saying these random things I felt really unnecessary and below his stature.

If you are finding the Ertugrul references cringey, let me offer a reason why IK might be pushing this: Pakistan critics will complain regularly about the dishonesty and low morals in Pakistan. If you have watched Ertugrul, then you would know that the central characters put the highest value on honesty, valour and respect and love for their community. For a Pakistan which has slipped into pure materialism and win at all costs, this is a good method to remind the populace what Islamic morals should look like.

The only ones who come out badly in the world acclaimed tv serial are the traitors and sellouts who are regularly conspiring with the enemy for a handful of gold. This may give some insight as to why certain posters hate the show with a passion.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Did you consider he may be talking to the audience in the language they understand?

Either that or maybe he's trying to fool innocent public with his random statements. Did you consider that?

I neither doubt the intentions of Imran not do I prefer other political parties if you think I have an agenda. It's just disappointing at the level of discourse we're hearing from him.

 

[Bewal Express]

If you are finding the Ertugrul references cringey, let me offer a reason why IK might be pushing this: Pakistan critics will complain regularly about the dishonesty and low morals in Pakistan. If you have watched Ertugrul, then you would know that the central characters put the highest value on honesty, valour and respect and love for their community. For a Pakistan which has slipped into pure materialism and win at all costs, this is a good method to remind the populace what Islamic morals should look like.

The only ones who come out badly in the world acclaimed tv serial are the traitors and sellouts who are regularly conspiring with the enemy for a handful of gold. This may give some insight as to why certain posters hate the show with a passion.

Is it any good?

 

[Bewal Express]

Either that or maybe he's trying to fool innocent public with his random statements. Did you consider that?

I neither doubt the intentions of Imran not do I prefer other political parties if you think I have an agenda. It's just disappointing at the level of discourse we're hearing from him.

What's single biggest problem in PK? What's brought PK to its knees?

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

What's single biggest problem in PK? What's brought PK to its knees?

If I go by the words of Imran Khan, it is corruption and morals of the people.

 

[Bewal Express]

If I go by the words of Imran Khan, it is corruption and morals of the people.

Why go by his words, obviously you have an opinion.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Why go by his words, obviously you have an opinion.

Why are you asking me? At least in the topic I just said Imran is a loose canon and speaks nonsense at times. Does your question have anything to do with that?

 

[Mamoon]

I haven't seen it but a friend of mine thought it was brilliant and said exactly what Kaptaan is saying, that it's great family viewing. My friend thinks I would love it but I am not into long serials.

A fiction show about an Ottoman barbarian has no education value and there are no lessons to learn from it.

It has no education value. Do you seriously think the people of Pakistan will change their mindsets and the way they live because of a tv show?

Imran is smoking some really cheap stuff these days if that is what he thinks.

Besides, Pakistan has nothing to do with this Ertugrul fellow. We have no connection with the Ottomans. We are always trying to forge links with the Arabs and lately the Turks because the Muslims of subcontinent have no achievements of their own.


Etrugrul is just a tv series that a lot of people will find entertaining and interesting. That is it.

It is not going to influence the way we live and it is not going to impact our culture. Those who watch the entire series will not even think about after a while just like no one thinks about Game of Thrones anymore even though it took the world by storm when it was on.

Imran Khan is trying to link Pakistan’s national identity with a fictional tv series about Ottomans.

We are so obsessed with this show at the state level that the Ertugrul theme song was played out on Pakistan Day. What does Ertugrul have to do with Pakistan Day? It was an absolute cringefest.

Ertugrul had become a national hero for Pakistan. It won’t be long before we put his face on our currency notes at this rate.

 

[Mamoon]

If I go by the words of Imran Khan, it is corruption and morals of the people.

The world renowned playboy is giving lectures on morality. It is hilarious.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Is it any good?

Fantastic, and based loosely on real events around genuine historic figures, this is made clear at the beginning of each episode. It did take me a few episodes to get into, but it picks up pace as the series develops. You can take my view seriously as I have watched the whole series, whereas the traitors are just guessing having watched at most a handful of episodes. I don't blame them, must have been painful viewing for them personally, they probably switched off and tuned in to Mahabarat instead.

 

[Bewal Express]

A fiction show about an Ottoman barbarian has no education value and there are no lessons to learn from it.

It has no education value. Do you seriously think the people of Pakistan will change their mindsets and the way they live because of a tv show?

Imran is smoking some really cheap stuff these days if that is what he thinks.

Besides, Pakistan has nothing to do with this Ertugrul fellow. We have no connection with the Ottomans. We are always trying to forge links with the Arabs and lately the Turks because the Muslims of subcontinent have no achievements of their own.


Etrugrul is just a tv series that a lot of people will find entertaining and interesting. That is it.

It is not going to influence the way we live and it is not going to impact our culture. Those who watch the entire series will not even think about after a while just like no one thinks about Game of Thrones anymore even though it took the world by storm when it was on.

Imran Khan is trying to link Pakistan’s national identity with a fictional tv series about Ottomans.

We are so obsessed with this show at the state level that the Ertugrul theme song was played out on Pakistan Day. What does Ertugrul have to do with Pakistan Day? It was an absolute cringefest.

Ertugrul had become a national hero for Pakistan. It won’t be long before we put his face on our currency notes at this rate.

So what you are saying is that if a culture has no direct influence on us we should not try to learn anything from them, but we have nothing to do with Western culture( which in many cases is diametrically opposite of ours) and we are obsessed with it. Me and you are conversing in a language used to oppress our people, so your logic has no bearings and just diatribe of verbal diarrhea.
As you seem to be so opposed to it, i have to the conclusion that its probably very good.

 

[Bewal Express]

Fantastic, and based loosely on real events around genuine historic figures, this is made clear at the beginning of each episode. It did take me a few episodes to get into, but it picks up pace as the series develops. You can take my view seriously as I have watched the whole series, whereas the traitors are just guessing having watched at most a handful of episodes. I don't blame them, must have been painful viewing for them personally, they probably switched off and tuned in to Mahabarat instead.

As you said earlier, looking at the losers that hate it must mean that it has something good going for it. Television and entertainment in general, create the culture that we think is culture. So a message of good strong Muslims hurts losers than i am all for it. I just find it difficult to get into any long serial, but i am tempted to give it a go.

 

[Bewal Express]

The world renowned playboy is giving lectures on morality. It is hilarious.

So in your world people never change, their ideas dont evolve, they are stuck in a time warp. Meanwhile,In the real world there is constant process of education where intelligent people challenge their own ideas much of it based on their own experiences, but some based on others, maybe you should give it a go.

 

[Mamoon]

So in your world people never change, their ideas dont evolve, they are stuck in a time warp. Meanwhile,In the real world there is constant process of education where intelligent people challenge their own ideas much of it based on their own experiences, but some based on others, maybe you should give it a go.

It is interesting how the timing of this “change” is always convenient.

How come Imran didn’t “change” during the peak of his career when he was busy partying and womanizing?

At that time, he had no problem with the vulgarity of the west. He didn’t have the time to think about God and Islam.

Now that his youth has deserted him, he has all the time in the world to think about life after death and morality.

People like him are called hypocrites and they have no credibility and neither is their “change” worthy of anything in God’s eyes.

Everyone thinks about God when they are in their old age, but few have the faith to resist worldly temptations in their youth.

Imran is the last person on earth who should be giving lectures on morality and apart from his worshippers, no is listening to what he is saying anyway.

He is being rightfully criticized by everyone for blaming vulgarity for rape culture. That is as stupid as it gets. The man has completely lost his marbles and has become a parody of himself.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It is interesting how the timing of this “change” is always convenient.

How come Imran didn’t “change” during the peak of his career when he was busy partying and womanizing?

At that time, he had no problem with the vulgarity of the west. He didn’t have the time to think about God and Islam.

Now that his youth has deserted him, he has all the time in the world to think about life after death and morality.

People like him are called hypocrites and they have no credibility and neither is their “change” worthy of anything in God’s eyes.

Everyone thinks about God when they are in their old age, but few have the faith to resist worldly temptations in their youth.

Imran is the last person on earth who should be giving lectures on morality and apart from his worshippers, no is listening to what he is saying anyway.

He is being rightfully criticized by everyone for blaming vulgarity for rape culture. That is as stupid as it gets. The man has completely lost his marbles and has become a parody of himself.

That's great that the people of Pakistan are recognising Imran's hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy. That would suggest that Pakistanis themselves are a very moral and highly principled nation of people and they can fix their own issues without any help from IK thankyouverymuch.

May the good people of Pakistan continue to enjoy the peace and tranquility their enlightened status has brought to the nation.

 

[Bewal Express]

It is interesting how the timing of this “change” is always convenient.

How come Imran didn’t “change” during the peak of his career when he was busy partying and womanizing?

At that time, he had no problem with the vulgarity of the west. He didn’t have the time to think about God and Islam.

Now that his youth has deserted him, he has all the time in the world to think about life after death and morality.

People like him are called hypocrites and they have no credibility and neither is their “change” worthy of anything in God’s eyes.

Everyone thinks about God when they are in their old age, but few have the faith to resist worldly temptations in their youth.

Imran is the last person on earth who should be giving lectures on morality and apart from his worshippers, no is listening to what he is saying anyway.

He is being rightfully criticized by everyone for blaming vulgarity for rape culture. That is as stupid as it gets. The man has completely lost his marbles and has become a parody of himself.

Lets assume that you are right and he hasnt changed and as no one knows anyones niyaat, and thats a possiblity. But even if we assume those things, then we must look at his public conduct. After he finished his career he built a cancer hospital- bar you and some other losers, by most peoples morals its an amazing achievement and has saved 1000s of lives, he has gone onto build even more, he has built a university with public donations- again another amazing achievement which few have managed and then he has made the crooks cry- No more camp offices in London, Jati Umra, No more Omni group paying for your dog food, no more billions stolen and sent to Switzerland and no more mass looting by thugs who kill opponents.
IK was, is and will remain a legend, as long there is a PK, he name will be synonymous with success. Look at his haters, and you see a bunch of losers with nothing to their name, hated in their own lifetime and that is before they meet their maker. There is nothing you or they can do, that will make an iota of difference to the legend. You have lost and the more you hate, the more damage you do to yourself. Ultimately, if your brought up on halal, you appreciate the legend, if your not, you become bitter and twisted. Which category do you fall into?

 

[Bewal Express]

That's great that the people of Pakistan are recognising Imran's hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy. That would suggest that Pakistanis themselves are a very moral and highly principled nation of people and they can fix their own issues without any help from IK thankyouverymuch.

May the good people of Pakistan continue to enjoy the peace and tranquility their enlightened status has brought to the nation.

You can tell alot about a man by the company he keeps- in political terms [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is so scared to reveal who he supports because he knows that he will look even more silly than he already looks. This is a man that runs from me when the simplest question of all is posed, who should lead PK. As you know, he runs from such a simple question and then thinks he has the intellect to debate with someone like me.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

It is interesting how the timing of this “change” is always convenient.

How come Imran didn’t “change” during the peak of his career when he was busy partying and womanizing?

At that time, he had no problem with the vulgarity of the west. He didn’t have the time to think about God and Islam.

Now that his youth has deserted him, he has all the time in the world to think about life after death and morality.

People like him are called hypocrites and they have no credibility and neither is their “change” worthy of anything in God’s eyes.

Everyone thinks about God when they are in their old age, but few have the faith to resist worldly temptations in their youth.

Imran is the last person on earth who should be giving lectures on morality and apart from his worshippers, no is listening to what he is saying anyway.

He is being rightfully criticized by everyone for blaming vulgarity for rape culture. That is as stupid as it gets. The man has completely lost his marbles and has become a parody of himself.

He enjoyed his life to the fullest and probably even does now but wants the people of the nation to lead pious lives. Strikes me as a hypocrite.

 

[saeedhk]

Is it fahashi having a daughter out of wedlock, and then abandoning her?

Asking for a prime minister.

 

[Bewal Express]

He enjoyed his life to the fullest and probably even does now but wants the people of the nation to lead pious lives. Strikes me as a hypocrite.

Truly awful person wanting people to live pious lives,he should be promoting sin because that's the better route. These pious people do really get on my nerves.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You can tell alot about a man by the company he keeps- in political terms [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is so scared to reveal who he supports because he knows that he will look even more silly than he already looks. This is a man that runs from me when the simplest question of all is posed, who should lead PK. As you know, he runs from such a simple question and then thinks he has the intellect to debate with someone like me.

He is not scared to reveal who he supports, he has openly declared his admiration for Modi of the hindutva party in India.

 

[Bewal Express]

He is not scared to reveal who he supports, he has openly declared his admiration for Modi of the hindutva party in India.

Maybe he is an admirer of Marshal Philippe Pétain of the Vichy Republic. I bet Modi loves these useful idiots