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Yesterday I did something which I regret the most in my life. Before reading this I want to let you know that I feel miserable already please do not judge me.
I made a fake insta account to talk to a girl that I like. But I showed myself as a foreigner. I started talking about Islam and how I find it weird that how can God have a human son(Nauzubillah). I do not believe in it nauzubillah. I sort of showed myself as a Non-Muslim( astagfirullah). Wanted to ask does it make me a non-Muslim. I cried hard last night and asked for forgiveness. I took my shahadah 3-4 times after that and really felt a burden on my heart.
Wanted to ask you guys does it make me a non-Muslim (astagfirullah). And what can I do to ease the burden I am feeling.
 
From a class I attended not long ago, even if one makes a joke about being non-Muslim, they are required to take the Shahada. But, you are better off seeking guidance from a qualified person in this matter.

There may be a difference in opinion.
 
From a class I attended not long ago, even if one makes a joke about being non-Muslim, they are required to take the Shahada. But, you are better off seeking guidance from a qualified person in this matter.

There may be a difference in opinion.

Agree bro, and you shouldn't take matter of faith so lightly but anyways it's good to know that you are already on course of redemption and regret what so therefore there is always hope and it all depend on your niyat or intentions, it's between you and Allah and you should seek guidance and mercy.
 
After consulting my teacher:

So, the rule is if a person says I am not a Muslim he leaves Islaam. Even if he said it out of anger as Annawawi explained.

So, the one who says for example is am not a muslim, knowingly, willingly and intentionally he leaves Islaam.
 
Yesterday I did something which I regret the most in my life. Before reading this I want to let you know that I feel miserable already please do not judge me.
I made a fake insta account to talk to a girl that I like. But I showed myself as a foreigner. I started talking about Islam and how I find it weird that how can God have a human son(Nauzubillah). I do not believe in it nauzubillah. I sort of showed myself as a Non-Muslim( astagfirullah). Wanted to ask does it make me a non-Muslim. I cried hard last night and asked for forgiveness. I took my shahadah 3-4 times after that and really felt a burden on my heart.
Wanted to ask you guys does it make me a non-Muslim (astagfirullah). And what can I do to ease the burden I am feeling.

Islam doesnt say this, this is Christianity(not all sects).

Just my personal opinion, God knows you didnt mean this, it was said out of jest, to impress or start a conversation. You've asked for forgivness, once again declared in your heart what you really believe. Remember God is merciful, doesnt hold grudges like us humans.

I would only suggest you now become truthful to the girl also. Be honest as to why sent her msgs and apologise for making this up.
 
My 2 cents even though I'm not a Muslim. We all make mistake, sometimes terrible ones. The thing is to learn from your mistakes and try to never repeat it again.
 
Take it easy, not a big deal, if your intention was not to become a non-muslim, then you're not . Don;t follow moulviana fatwa's . Islam is a simple religion , don't make it complicated. If you consider yourself a Muslim, you are a Muslim.
 
Take it easy, not a big deal, if your intention was not to become a non-muslim, then you're not . Don;t follow moulviana fatwa's . Islam is a simple religion , don't make it complicated. If you consider yourself a Muslim, you are a Muslim.
They have studied islam for years and years so they would know more about it than you and I... (MUFTIS that is)

It's like getting into a legal problem and refusing to take lawyerana fatwe

Getting cancer, refusing the doctorena fatwe and relying on chila to do the job
 
Just keep quiet and seek forgiveness from Allah swt. No need to talk to any Mullah Moulvi and make it a bigger issue than it is really.
 
Yesterday I did something which I regret the most in my life. Before reading this I want to let you know that I feel miserable already please do not judge me.
I made a fake insta account to talk to a girl that I like. But I showed myself as a foreigner. I started talking about Islam and how I find it weird that how can God have a human son(Nauzubillah). I do not believe in it nauzubillah. I sort of showed myself as a Non-Muslim( astagfirullah). Wanted to ask does it make me a non-Muslim. I cried hard last night and asked for forgiveness. I took my shahadah 3-4 times after that and really felt a burden on my heart.
Wanted to ask you guys does it make me a non-Muslim (astagfirullah). And what can I do to ease the burden I am feeling.

I am not a scholar and not issuing any fatwa here but in my opinion, I don't see an issue here.

The matter is between you and God. There is no third party involved here that you might have hurt.

You repented from God, and God forgives. That's God's promise.

So make the intention of not doing it again and move on with your life.

You may be young, and have a high testosterones, but girls are not worth putting your emaan on the line.

Find a suitable match and get married as soon as you can. It will save you from many, many headaches once those testosterones get taken care of.
 
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I'll address the deeper issue that involves here.

If you like this girl, why you thought about lying to her?

Do you think she won't accept you as who you are?
 
I am not a scholar and not issuing any fatwa here but in my opinion, I don't see an issue here.

The matter is between you and God. There is no third party involved here that you might have hurt.

You repented from God, and God forgives. That's God's promise.

So make the intention of not doing it again and move on with your life.

You may be young, and have a high testosterones, but girls are not worth putting your emaan on the line.

Find a suitable match and get married as soon as you can. It will save you from many, many headaches once those testosterones get taken care of.

There's obviously a technicality here as Islam isn't necessarily black & white. You can't, for example, sin with a view to repenting as it defeats the objective of the faith. OP catfished someone on insta but pretended to be Christian (tf) and sought advice on a miscellaneous part of a cricket forum.

I'd say it was a good wind up thread if he wasn't so serious
 
There's obviously a technicality here as Islam isn't necessarily black & white. You can't, for example, sin with a view to repenting as it defeats the objective of the faith. OP catfished someone on insta but pretended to be Christian (tf) and sought advice on a miscellaneous part of a cricket forum.

I'd say it was a good wind up thread if he wasn't so serious

So what do you want him to do? Commit suicide?

He realized it was not right, displayed humbleness AND wisdom by honestly repenting. What hair do you want to split now?
 
I'll address the deeper issue that involves here.

If you like this girl, why you thought about lying to her?

Do you think she won't accept you as who you are?

I don't think the OP is worried about that. Unfortunate truth that is.
 
There's obviously a technicality here as Islam isn't necessarily black & white. You can't, for example, sin with a view to repenting as it defeats the objective of the faith. OP catfished someone on insta but pretended to be Christian (tf) and sought advice on a miscellaneous part of a cricket forum.

I'd say it was a good wind up thread if he wasn't so serious

Agree. It certainly has funny elements.
 
There's obviously a technicality here as Islam isn't necessarily black & white. You can't, for example, sin with a view to repenting as it defeats the objective of the faith. OP catfished someone on insta but pretended to be Christian (tf) and sought advice on a miscellaneous part of a cricket forum.

I'd say it was a good wind up thread if he wasn't so serious
I feel so stupid. Just cant stop thinking about it. I posted here as I only had an account here and not somewhere on a religious site
 
I feel so stupid. Just cant stop thinking about it. I posted here as I only had an account here and not somewhere on a religious site

I guess I'll be the first one to say it: forget it and get on with your weekend yo.
 
So what do you want him to do? Commit suicide?

He realized it was not right, displayed humbleness AND wisdom by honestly repenting. What hair do you want to split now?

He isn't repenting. He is catfishing some girl who has no clue with whom she's dealing with and the only aspect he repented was he said, he wasn't Muslim. It still is all about him and nothing about the integrity and consideration towards the other person.
 
What should I do now?

Are bhai you repented nah what more do you want to do?

Also if you're serious you should come out with your real identity if not keep fooling around I guess...
 
like writing Nauzibillah in the posst would make it alright.

Its funny how OP is worried about displeasing God by stating himself as a non muslim, but doesn't care about the fact that not only was he lieing but he was trying to catfish someone which is just purely pathetic. I think that is much more of a serious concern than anything else

But than again, thats the problem with out society. Committing sins but also having beards an being religious.
 
Are bhai you repented nah what more do you want to do?

Also if you're serious you should come out with your real identity if not keep fooling around I guess...

I just cant stop thinking about it. I regret the day I did that and am just having headaches all day. I feel as if I am no longer a Muslim. Just overthinking in general. What can I do about this?
 
He isn't repenting. He is catfishing some girl who has no clue with whom she's dealing with and the only aspect he repented was he said, he wasn't Muslim. It still is all about him and nothing about the integrity and consideration towards the other person.

exactly!
But he is now having headaches of whether he is a muslim or not.

Why not having headaches for actually lieing to someone.

Funny, how our society thinks catfishing is alright
 
exactly!
But he is now having headaches of whether he is a muslim or not.

Why not having headaches for actually lieing to someone.

Funny, how our society thinks catfishing is alright
I have said sorry to her and she is cool about it
 
I just cant stop thinking about it. I regret the day I did that and am just having headaches all day. I feel as if I am no longer a Muslim. Just overthinking in general. What can I do about this?

This is the same issue with the girl also.

You need a constant validation from others. She is probably not religious and since insecurities came in to play, in order to gain her validation, you resorted to what she deemed acceptable.

Unless you address this constant need of flow of validation from other, you'll go through the same route again and again.
 
First thing I need to ask is why are doing such things during the holy month of Ramadan? You should refrain from acts that are going to displease God in the blessed month. We are so lucky that once again, we have the opportunity to get closer to our Lord, our creator.

You should be spending this time in increasing your worship, doing good deeds, giving more to charity if possible and getting closer to Allah swt, not spending time chasing girls.

Remember the rewards are multiplied manyfold and it is a blessing for us that we can reap so many benefits including the Night of Power in which the night is better than a thousand months.

Anyway, since your intention wasn't to get away form Islam and you were spoofing, then you repented, I don't think you are a non-muslim. For your benefit, I consulted a scholar relation and this is what he had to say:

"It’s fine shaytaan sometimes hacked people mind and make them do wrong things
Allah اللہ سبحانہ وتعالیٰ clearly said in Quraan that “Allah and his angels and his messengers are not for joke” one should be careful imaan is very very important thing in our life."

He says that since you repented, its fine as Allah swt is all merciful and that you should do salatul Tasbeeh once a day. Here is a link for your reference: https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=2552065911754299&ref=watch_permalink. Your concept about Allah, angels and yourself will be clearer.

He added: "The regret and sorrow showed the imaan in oneself and imaan is the most valuable thing in our life, however Allah is all merciful and I hope his repentance will be accepted in the court of Allah subhana ho wa tala. He’s kind to his servants."

I hope this has been a useful and fruitful lesson for you. Insha'Allah.
 
First thing I need to ask is why are doing such things during the holy month of Ramadan? You should refrain from acts that are going to displease God in the blessed month. We are so lucky that once again, we have the opportunity to get closer to our Lord, our creator.

You should be spending this time in increasing your worship, doing good deeds, giving more to charity if possible and getting closer to Allah swt, not spending time chasing girls.

Remember the rewards are multiplied manyfold and it is a blessing for us that we can reap so many benefits including the Night of Power in which the night is better than a thousand months.

Anyway, since your intention wasn't to get away form Islam and you were spoofing, then you repented, I don't think you are a non-muslim. For your benefit, I consulted a scholar relation and this is what he had to say:

"It’s fine shaytaan sometimes hacked people mind and make them do wrong things
Allah اللہ سبحانہ وتعالیٰ clearly said in Quraan that “Allah and his angels and his messengers are not for joke” one should be careful imaan is very very important thing in our life."

He says that since you repented, its fine as Allah swt is all merciful and that you should do salatul Tasbeeh once a day. Here is a link for your reference: https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=2552065911754299&ref=watch_permalink. Your concept about Allah, angels and yourself will be clearer.

He added: "The regret and sorrow showed the imaan in oneself and imaan is the most valuable thing in our life, however Allah is all merciful and I hope his repentance will be accepted in the court of Allah subhana ho wa tala. He’s kind to his servants."

I hope this has been a useful and fruitful lesson for you. Insha'Allah.

This is a very dangerous perspective where you accountable the shaytaan for all your bad deeds and then the angel is you. You are basically creating an alter ego in the form of shaytaan where he takes over your body and makes you do bad things. Tomorrow, I can do the same and then repent it later only to blame on shaytaan.

"I didn't do it. shaytaan made me do it.".

a very dangerous precedence.
 
This is a very dangerous perspective where you accountable the shaytaan for all your bad deeds and then the angel is you. You are basically creating an alter ego in the form of shaytaan where he takes over your body and makes you do bad things. Tomorrow, I can do the same and then repent it later only to blame on shaytaan.

"I didn't do it. shaytaan made me do it.".

a very dangerous precedence.

That is not what the post is saying at all. The average Muslim would never have come to your interpretation.
 
Bud you have to first question why you had to lie about the religion you think you follow so dearly this usually happens if you are not sure about it. If it is troubling you so much dive into the depths of Islam and Quran and know the truth for yourself. When you are sure about something 100% even if it is wrong nothing can compromise your integrity on it.
 
That is not what the post is saying at all. The average Muslim would never have come to your interpretation.

If every Muslim have followed Islam in the true intention, terrorism in the facade of Islam wouldn't have existed at all.

So reality tells you otherwise.
 
If every Muslim have followed Islam in the true intention, terrorism in the facade of Islam wouldn't have existed at all.

So reality tells you otherwise.

Reality tells me the average Muslim isn't a terrorist.

So I don't get your point.

Take any ill in the world, apply the same sort of rhetoric, and your statement rings hollow.

"If everyone followed the law, there would be no crime. Reality tells you otherwise"

Okay. And?

Point is, nobody was talking about alter ego's or absolving the individual of responsibility, nor has the influence of the devil ever been misconstrued as such.
 
Bud you have to first question why you had to lie about the religion you think you follow so dearly this usually happens if you are not sure about it. If it is troubling you so much dive into the depths of Islam and Quran and know the truth for yourself. When you are sure about something 100% even if it is wrong nothing can compromise your integrity on it.
Bhai I sort of showed her that I am a foreigner from a non-Muslim country. I am not having any doubts about religion. Its just that I do not know after messaging her. I realized what I have done and I have no words why I did that but I am never been more sorry in my life and I cant stop thinking about it
 
Bhai I sort of showed her that I am a foreigner from a non-Muslim country. I am not having any doubts about religion. Its just that I do not know after messaging her. I realized what I have done and I have no words why I did that but I am never been more sorry in my life and I cant stop thinking about it

Buddy.. I am no Muslim. Sorry I cant really know what you are going through now. And if God exists and if he is really compassionate he will not mind your little shenanigan.
 
Reality tells me the average Muslim isn't a terrorist.

So I don't get your point.

Take any ill in the world, apply the same sort of rhetoric, and your statement rings hollow.

"If everyone followed the law, there would be no crime. Reality tells you otherwise"

Okay. And?

Point is, nobody was talking about alter ego's or absolving the individual of responsibility, nor has the influence of the devil ever been misconstrued as such.

The answer to your question is, everyone understands context differently. if you give a vague concept like this, even if only one person is influenced in a negative way, it is enough to create havoc.

If your kid bullies another kid, will you call it as shaitan uske andar ghus gaya or will held him accountable for his actions? if it's former, you have already paved the way of making an alter ego by institutionalizing him via the concept.
 
It’s too late, your going to burn in hell :)). On a real actions speak louder than words and whatever you believe in your heart will always take precedent.
 
Bhai I sort of showed her that I am a foreigner from a non-Muslim country. I am not having any doubts about religion. Its just that I do not know after messaging her. I realized what I have done and I have no words why I did that but I am never been more sorry in my life and I cant stop thinking about it

At that point in time, the girl was more important to you than the religion. That's alright. If religion is always the highest priority for you then you have to make a lot of sacrifices in life that may or not be worth it. I'd say take it easy. Practise the religion as best as you can but also enjoy the finer things in life.
 
It’s too late, your going to burn in hell :)). On a real actions speak louder than words and whatever you believe in your heart will always take precedent.

Agreed here. no scholar even with years of study could give you a leeway of leaving an action guilt free if you don't have the true intention in your heart. in the end, it doesn't matter what the scholar says because God doesn't work accordingly what a scholar says.

If you have true intention in your heart, you won't need a scholar because vide the personal relationship between you and God, HE already knows what your intentions are.
 
People in this thread are being too harsh on him. He came out and apologized to the girl. Just ask for forgiveness from Allah. I can see that your faith is strong and we all make mistakes. You’ll be fine
 
The girl told me its okay maaf kiya apko. But I just cant stop thinking about this and feel really horrible. Please pray for me that Allah lifts this burden that I am carrying atm and life gets back to normal
 
The girl told me its okay maaf kiya apko. But I just cant stop thinking about this and feel really horrible. Please pray for me that Allah lifts this burden that I am carrying atm and life gets back to normal

I think you are getting to worked up over this, you've repented its fine.

Btw ignore the non-muslims in this thread, as your question was related to faith, they know nothing and most are just trolling you.
 
I guess I'll be the first one to say it: forget it and get on with your weekend yo.

I'll address the deeper issue that involves here.

If you like this girl, why you thought about lying to her?

Do you think she won't accept you as who you are?

A question to fellow Muslims

This is the title of the thread. I understand this is an open forum but it’s clear the OP requested a Muslim point of view.

My advice to OP would be to ignore these. Repent and Say the Shahada. If you have any further doubts, you can search Islamic sites.
 
The girl told me its okay maaf kiya apko. But I just cant stop thinking about this and feel really horrible. Please pray for me that Allah lifts this burden that I am carrying atm and life gets back to normal

I am obviously no scholar but guilt after a sin is an encouraging sin. Use that as the motivation to repent

This video may help.

https://youtu.be/2lKoN7HkzXQ
 
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A question to fellow Muslims

This is the title of the thread. I understand this is an open forum but it’s clear the OP requested a Muslim point of view.

My advice to OP would be to ignore these. Repent and Say the Shahada. If you have any further doubts, you can search Islamic sites.

report the posts from non Muslims and ask admins to delete it.
 
report the posts from non Muslims and ask admins to delete it.

Not sure why you are getting worked up. The OP made a simple request and I just thought it would be common courtesy to follow that. I guess common things aren’t all that common anymore lol.
 
A question to fellow Muslims

This is the title of the thread. I understand this is an open forum but it’s clear the OP requested a Muslim point of view.

My advice to OP would be to ignore these. Repent and Say the Shahada. If you have any further doubts, you can search Islamic sites.

That's fine, but you gotta accept - my post is the quickest way for the OP to get out of his needless mental sinkhole.
 
Not sure why you are getting worked up. The OP made a simple request and I just thought it would be common courtesy to follow that. I guess common things aren’t all that common anymore lol.

I am not worked up. if anyone believes something is inappropriate, then simply one should report it. that's what pps guidelines states. I just reiterated the rules.
 
That's fine, but you gotta accept - my post is the quickest way for the OP to get out of his needless mental sinkhole.

Quick doesn’t mean effective or long lasting. Anyways repenting is a religious concept(in this case Islamic) so won’t make sense for those who aren’t religious.
 
Quick doesn’t mean effective or long lasting. Anyways repenting is a religious concept(in this case Islamic) so won’t make sense for those who aren’t religious.

repenting isn't a religious concept. it's a psychological phenomenon which religion incorporated it.
 
You have asked for forgiveness and God is merciful. Move on, but take this experience as a lesson to never indulge in these things again.
 
I'm trying to understand the logic here. I assume the girl was Pakistani and presumably a muslim too.

What made you think that acting like an anonymous islamophobe on internet was the best way to flirt with and impress the girl. Now I'm no love guru, but whoever you're getting romance tips from, you need to fire him immediately.
 
So am I having another question to those who have knowledge about this.
Should I say my shadah again or should I just ask for forgiveness?
 
So am I having another question to those who have knowledge about this.
Should I say my shadah again or should I just ask for forgiveness?

When in doubt do both. Always both
 
Yesterday I did something which I regret the most in my life. Before reading this I want to let you know that I feel miserable already please do not judge me.
I made a fake insta account to talk to a girl that I like. But I showed myself as a foreigner. I started talking about Islam and how I find it weird that how can God have a human son(Nauzubillah). I do not believe in it nauzubillah. I sort of showed myself as a Non-Muslim( astagfirullah). Wanted to ask does it make me a non-Muslim. I cried hard last night and asked for forgiveness. I took my shahadah 3-4 times after that and really felt a burden on my heart.
Wanted to ask you guys does it make me a non-Muslim (astagfirullah). And what can I do to ease the burden I am feeling.

What you did is not right, but if you are remorseful and have repented to Allah swt then trust in mercy of Allah swt. Sincere repentance can shed major sins.
 
So am I having another question to those who have knowledge about this.
Should I say my shadah again or should I just ask for forgiveness?

When you are praying salah, you are saying the shahadah in it itself. I repeat repentance can get rid of major sins as well as shirk, so believe in Allah swt forgiveness, and do not do it again.
 
You may have to recite the kalimah again as well as feed some hungry people as a means of apologising. That such an act was performed during Ramzan does not help matters.
 
So am I having another question to those who have knowledge about this.
Should I say my shadah again or should I just ask for forgiveness?
Unfortunately mosques don't have confession boxes and I'm not sure you'll find your peace on a cricket forum. Also, maybe you need to alter your stance going forward. You seem to be in the backfoot if having to use absurd means to contact this girl?.

Play with a straight bat going forward and don't deploy taqiyya.
 
You don’t need confession boxes in Islam, sincere repentance done in private is usually enough unless you have harmed another person then you have to apologize to that person as well I believe.

There are plenty of YouTube videos done by scholars about repentance , I would suggest watching them, would likely be more useful than most of the advice being given on this thread .
 
You don’t need confession boxes in Islam, sincere repentance done in private is usually enough unless you have harmed another person then you have to apologize to that person as well I believe.

There are plenty of YouTube videos done by scholars about repentance , I would suggest watching them, would likely be more useful than most of the advice being given on this thread .

This

Matter of faith should be held private and only be discussed with very close family members or your own research with open mind

Some great islamic speakers are out there better to listen to tham than random people on the internet
 
to be fair, this thread is a great example of why the new generation have so much issues connecting other people in emotional level.

everyone here is more than willing to give willy nilly details about religious perspective, giving youtube links where you watch them and find peace & repentance but very few did address the underlying issue of the OP in the first place.

If such a level of insecurity continues, this cycle will also continue since the effect of guilt and repentance decreases over the course of time and the person tends to become his old self since that's what natural is.

Religion is an escapade here. not a solution.
 
to be fair, this thread is a great example of why the new generation have so much issues connecting other people in emotional level.

everyone here is more than willing to give willy nilly details about religious perspective, giving youtube links where you watch them and find peace & repentance but very few did address the underlying issue of the OP in the first place.

If such a level of insecurity continues, this cycle will also continue since the effect of guilt and repentance decreases over the course of time and the person tends to become his old self since that's what natural is.

Religion is an escapade here. not a solution.

What else do you expect when the focus of many Islamic sermons is about "Peshaab k Qatray aur Wazzu" and "Aurat ki sharam gah ka pani halal ya haram". 100's of lectures on these two favorite topics where clerics love to give such sermons (because YT viewership brings more revenue) and folks relish to listen cuz these are topics when they remember all Islamic guidance.
 
Honestly while I get you are feeling immensely guilty of what you did. Fact is you are still a muslim. You just made a mistake of catfishing while not calling yourself one. Its ok. Overly thinking about it will only hurt you more, what you need to do is get up to take action. Change your ways to the point where you will never do this again. A lot of times in life we get in situations where we blame ourselves for everything. We forget we are only human and not someone whose born perfect. So think of what your next step is, not what you did before. Rather god accepts you or not what matters is your intention of pushing towards his way,
 
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