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A sincere question to Indians, what did your government achieve from "Operation Sindoor"?

HalBass9 said:
His whole argument is based on that Pak should’ve continued the war that Pak never started.

Why are you wasting your time?
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Lets see ....


1. @PakLFC claims Pakistan is innocent until proven otherwise for the Pehalgam terror attack.
2. India did not agree with that and did not wait for evidence and proceeded to attack no less than 9 separate locations deep inside Pakistan that it considered to be root of terror ( and that too after providing advance notice )
3. Pakistan retaliated and the end result was India eventually surrendered ( According to PakLFC )

So therefore the net summary is:

Pakistan is innocent , won the war and forced India to surrender but somehow is still begging India to release water from Indus river ?
 
uppercut said:
Lets see ....


1. @PakLFC claims Pakistan is innocent until proven otherwise for the Pehalgam terror attack.
2. India did not agree with that and did not wait for evidence and proceeded to attack no less than 9 separate locations deep inside Pakistan that it considered to be root of terror ( and that too after providing advance notice )
3. Pakistan retaliated and the end result was India eventually surrendered ( According to PakLFC )

So therefore the net summary is:

Pakistan is innocent , won the war and forced India to surrender but somehow is still begging India to release water from Indus river ?
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:afridi
 
Gotta say one thing, I don’t really like andhbhakts like @uppercut but the way he is destroying a serial hater and the genocidal supporting maniac in this debate is quite funny.
 
Operation Tandoor/Sindoor has made India a laughing stock. That was their key "achievement". :qdkcheeky
 
big_gamer007 said:
Gotta say one thing, I don’t really like andhbhakts like @uppercut but the way he is destroying a serial hater and the genocidal supporting maniac in this debate is quite funny.
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The only maniacs are in support for the genocide and ethnic cleansing from India are Hindutva.
 
big_gamer007 said:
Gotta say one thing, I don’t really like andhbhakts like @uppercut
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All I will say is this .... try debating with me on any topic that you think is important to you. I will most certainly give you 100% genuine responses as I have nothing to gain from the outcome.

Full disclosure: I have absolutely nothing to gain by convincing you one way or the other. Infact the one and only reason why I post on the most contentious issues is to understand how even the most educated people will go to the extreme extent to save their face defending situations/events that they have ZERO control over.​

big_gamer007 said:
but the way he is destroying a serial hater and the genocidal supporting maniac in this debate is quite funny.
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This was all too easy ... as all the hardwork was done by the Indian military ... nothing for me to do other than present facts and derive logical conclusions.
 

Mr Bhutto-Zardari, also a former foreign minister, said that on the final day of last month’s deadly clashes, India deployed a dual-use cruise missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead, forcing Pakistan to make a split-second decision on whether it was under nuclear attack.​

This is the reason why Pakistan begged for ceasefire .they were really scared after the Bholari airbase attack's by India.

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Threshold for war in South Asia ‘dangerously low’, warns Bilawal

Former foreign minister says ceasefire achieved but not peace; conflict far from resolved.
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I would give you an answer on what we achieved from Operation Sindoor shortly today. Preparing the write up
 
Devadwal said:

Mr Bhutto-Zardari, also a former foreign minister, said that on the final day of last month’s deadly clashes, India deployed a dual-use cruise missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead, forcing Pakistan to make a split-second decision on whether it was under nuclear attack.​

This is the reason why Pakistan begged for ceasefire .they were really scared after the Bholari airbase attack's by India.

www.dawn.com

Threshold for war in South Asia ‘dangerously low’, warns Bilawal

Former foreign minister says ceasefire achieved but not peace; conflict far from resolved.
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Surprising that you are believing a Pakistani minister but not an Indian one? :inti

 
Devadwal said:

Mr Bhutto-Zardari, also a former foreign minister, said that on the final day of last month’s deadly clashes, India deployed a dual-use cruise missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead, forcing Pakistan to make a split-second decision on whether it was under nuclear attack.​

This is the reason why Pakistan begged for ceasefire .they were really scared after the Bholari airbase attack's by India.

www.dawn.com

Threshold for war in South Asia ‘dangerously low’, warns Bilawal

Former foreign minister says ceasefire achieved but not peace; conflict far from resolved.
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So India was going to Nuke Pakistan and Pakistan was going to Nuke North Korea?

Y'all are clowns.

:afridi
 
The Bald Eagle said:
@Rajdeep but but Pak surrendered said Godi media 😂
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That was Pak deputy minister claiming they have waved white flag after India hit 2 air bases.

This is Subramaniam Swamy who is not in Govt and just a ex Rajya Sabha MP from BJP ticket. On top of that he is only talking about jets being down. As I said many times before, jets do go down and soldiers do die in a war. So this is not a big deal.

You are getting defensive now and doing illogical compromise.

#PrinceFaisal
#Ishaq Dar
#NurKhanAirbase
#GharMeGhusKe
#CoughCough

:afridi :kp
 
Rajdeep said:
That was Pak deputy minister claiming they have waved white flag after India hit 2 air bases.

This is Subramaniam Swamy who is not in Govt and just a ex Rajya Sabha MP from BJP ticket. On top of that he is only talking about jets being down. As I said many times before, jets do go down and soldiers do die in a war. So this is not a big deal.

You are getting defensive now and doing illogical compromise.

#PrinceFaisal
#Ishaq Dar
#NurKhanAirbase
#GharMeGhusKe
#CoughCough

:afridi :kp
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Hahah...you have got your whole life to just produce that bit...as you say #hayhimmat :kp
 
Rajdeep said:
In my history of posting in PP (even before you joined) I have never posted fake news and always speaks truth. There is a reason posters here listens to me, nod in agreement and move on. The term when Rajdeep speaks didn't got coined in thin air.
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The Bald Eagle said:
Why wasting time arguing when you have the proof....which he doesn't have at all lol
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its very simple .... if India surrendered why is Pakistan still begging India to release Indus river water flow to India ?

PS: Now you will either start your usual deflection tactics or resort to peurile trolling to save face.
 
uppercut said:
its very simple .... if India surrendered why is Pakistan still begging India to release Indus river water flow to India ?

PS: Now you will either start your usual deflection tactics or resort to peurile trolling to save face.
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Ok so if Pak has surrendered then why FATF begging and fear of terrorism and most importantly why the taunt of operation sindoor still in progress 😂😂
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Ok so if Pak has surrendered then why FATF begging and fear of terrorism and most importantly why the taunt of operation sindoor still in progress 😂😂
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Because the objective of the Indian military actions was just to destroy the terror camps and call the nuclear bluff of Pakistan ( BTW Pakistan says it will use nukes if India doesn't release water ... when is that happening ? )
 
Contact Pak establishment for that...and if terror camps destroyed already then who are you going to chase in FATF??
uppercut said:
Because the objective of the Indian military actions was just to destroy the terror camps and call the nuclear bluff of Pakistan ( BTW Pakistan says it will use nukes if India doesn't release water ... when is that happening ? )
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uppercut said:
Because the objective of the Indian military actions was just to destroy the terror camps and call the nuclear bluff of Pakistan ( BTW Pakistan says it will use nukes if India doesn't release water ... when is that happening ? )
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When is this happening? :inti

PoK Was Always India's, We Will Take It Back: Amit Shah's Big Statement​


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PoK Was Always India's, We Will Take It Back: Amit Shah's Big Statement

Union Home Minister Amit Shah today referred to protests in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir and said "PoK is part of India and we will take it".
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The Bald Eagle said:
Contact Pak establishment for that...
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Therefore there was no surrender by India... right ? Because it doesn't make any sense for your military to claim that India surrendered without releasing Indus water ... right?

The Bald Eagle said:
and if terror camps destroyed already then who are you going to chase in FATF??
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Thats to make it even more costlier for Pakistan.

Bottomline is to show Pakistan that it will be extremely costly to under take their usual despicable actions of using terror as state policy and that the nukes will no longer stop India from military actions. And that too after providing advance notice that we will come after you.
 
Modi's India is finished. Modi has single handedly taken an India in 2014 (that was on the up) to an isolated, segregated, polarized downward trajectory India. Modi has embarrassed not just India, but his cult members, who are are in nothing but damage control mode.

Modi has insulted Hinduism (not Hindutva). Europe doesn't even want to sell fighter jets to India anymore. Bangladesh booted out his stooge and now Bangladesh are uniting with Pakistan (and China). The same Pakistan taken a few more inches of Kashmir. China has taken miles of Kashmir - call it a land grab - I dare these cultists.

This is not to say anything of BCCI's failures in winning trophies for the entire tenure of Modi despite having a cult member running the ICC. Of course who can forget the ultimate humiliation of India at the global scale when India failed to the win the World Cup at home, in the epicenter of Hindutva! Further compounded by the fact they had no mention of Australia in the post final fireworks!

India's economy in the pits, INR could be used as toilet paper, but given the lack of toilets, INR will soon be only useful to wrap fish tikka. India caught lying about its GDP, substantiated by the fact 100s of Millions want to FLEE Modi's India.

So much so Trump doesn't even want to deal with loser Modi.

Enterprises in the West are swiftly closing down their NOCs in India and shifting them back to Europe. Enterprises are on record saying that they do not wish to have any support/outlet in India cos they have no clue if its a scam or not, but they are 100% convinced that their data is neither safe nor secure in India.

Oh my, 1.4 Billion were raving in 2014, but now the music has certainly stopped.

Turns our India is the beggar. Begging for humility, begging for compassion, begging for attention, begging for a chance, and of course, begging for mercy (from Pakistan). Somethings are worth more than money!

Now for the best part - Pakistan didn't have to do anything other than defend its sovereignty in Kashmir and in the process has set India back 1000 years (mentally scarred generations loading), while propelling Pakistan's stock higher.

We got front line tickets to the demise of Modi's India - this one is in IMAX! 😎💥🔥👊
 
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Devadwal said:

Mr Bhutto-Zardari, also a former foreign minister, said that on the final day of last month’s deadly clashes, India deployed a dual-use cruise missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead, forcing Pakistan to make a split-second decision on whether it was under nuclear attack.​

This is the reason why Pakistan begged for ceasefire .they were really scared after the Bholari airbase attack's by India.

www.dawn.com

Threshold for war in South Asia ‘dangerously low’, warns Bilawal

Former foreign minister says ceasefire achieved but not peace; conflict far from resolved.
www.dawn.com
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msb314 said:
Bro please stop spreading fake garbage news (so does @Rana to be fair..)

No hypersonic missies were used in this conflict..
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@Rajdeep @Devadwal what is this now? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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NIA says Pahalgam attackers from Pakistan, Congress questions government

The National Investigation Agency (NIA) has concluded that all three attackers involved in the April 22 Pahalgam terrorist attack, which killed 26 civilians mostly tourists, were Pakistani nationals affiliated with the banned outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba. This conclusion came after the arrest of two Kashmiri locals who allegedly sheltered the attackers. Earlier, Jammu and Kashmir Police had released sketches of three suspects, including one local resident, but the NIA now says those sketches were incorrect and not related to the attack. The sketches were reportedly based on a photo from a terrorist killed months before the attack.

The Congress party has questioned the government over this apparent lapse, accusing it of negligence and possible "headline management" by releasing unverified sketches hastily. They demand answers on security lapses and the probe's credibility, suggesting the government prioritized optics over real action. The Congress also criticized the BJP for politicizing the attack and called for a special parliamentary session to address the issue.

The attack heightened tensions between India and Pakistan, with India accusing Pakistan of involvement while Pakistan denied it. The case was transferred to the NIA, which conducted extensive investigations leading to the recent arrests and findings.

 
^ So you trust congress and not NIA?

NIA Confirms Pahalgam Terrorists Are Pak Nationals, LeT Members; Arrests 2 For Sheltering Them​


In a major breakthrough in the Pahalgam terror attack case, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) has arrested two men for harbouring the terrorists who had carried out the horrendous attack that killed 26 innocent tourists and grievously injured 16 others, the NIA said in a statement.

The two men - Parvaiz Ahmad Jothar from Batkote, Pahalgam and Bashir Ahmad Jothar of Hill Park, Pahalgam – have disclosed the identities of the three armed terrorists involved in the attack, and have also confirmed that they were Pakistani nationals affiliated to the proscribed terrorist outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT).

 
Cruise missles can mean a variety of things. In fact most are subsonic
 
Rajdeep said:
^ So you trust congress and not NIA?

NIA Confirms Pahalgam Terrorists Are Pak Nationals, LeT Members; Arrests 2 For Sheltering Them​


In a major breakthrough in the Pahalgam terror attack case, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) has arrested two men for harbouring the terrorists who had carried out the horrendous attack that killed 26 innocent tourists and grievously injured 16 others, the NIA said in a statement.

The two men - Parvaiz Ahmad Jothar from Batkote, Pahalgam and Bashir Ahmad Jothar of Hill Park, Pahalgam – have disclosed the identities of the three armed terrorists involved in the attack, and have also confirmed that they were Pakistani nationals affiliated to the proscribed terrorist outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT).

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Cruise missiles can mean a variety of things. In fact most of subsonic right now…
 
Local.Dada said:
Funniest thing is pakistani arguments usually start and end like this

Pakistanis: It is 7-0
Indians- till yesterday it was 6-0?

Pakistani- oops sorry 6-0
Indians- where is proof?

Pakistanis- look this shady Indian social media account confirms 3-0
Indians- oh so it is 3-0 now? Ok still not admissible evidence

Pakistanis- look some Indian opposition guy said 1-0
Indians- oh it is 1-0 now? Still don’t beleive as there is no concrete evidence.

Pakistanis- operation ghaznavi activated- oh your chaiwala Moody lost, Indians got owned, we will eat your go-mata hahahaha, you lost billion dollars.

That’s the general trend. Hard to have a constructive argument 😭😭😭
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What happened is iaf used the decoys ..lakshya and et all..PAF did shoot down the decoys..now iaf can't admit decoy else it won't work next time....hence the confusion in Indian ranks and they decided to just say whatever we lost a jet or so..which cares . All pilots are safe...that's why CDS made the comment..all good..us arm chair guys are pissed ...but just think in such highly populated area..not a single wreckage ..non photoshopped...not videos of crashes explosions parachutes etc..zero...acc to center of gravity sahab there were 125 planes fighting for one hour....ok..let's blv this ...so at least Pak can show a single missile on their side...the ones that India fired and obviously missed...

Same goes for the Indian side .with all the huge population and the opposition party and age of cell phone..impossible for
uppercut said:
These are the facts:

1. Pakistan has a loooong history of being used by the USA to do its dirty work(Openly acknowledged by your Defense Minister recently)
2. Pakistan also has a history of being arm twisted by the USA ( Best example is the OBL saga and it killing Pakistani Civilians through drones during the War on Terror )
3. Conversely India does NOT have those issues. ( Example: India refused to abide by US sanctions on Russia and purchases Oil from it to date openly )
4. India has a well known very very long standing policy of NEVER involving any third party in any disputes with Pakistan and this policy has been in place well before the current Modi govt came to power in 2014.
5. No less an authority than the Indian PM openly and directly said to Trump that we did not ask for a ceasefire and that it was the Pak DGMO that initiated the call. ( BTW India did not even pick up the first call from your DGMO lol )
6. The USA has not refuted that claim by Modi and it has been a few days since he said that to Trump directly. And BTW these calls are officially documented.
7. Whereas Pakistan has a history of running to USA for help (e.g.: Kargil, 1971, IMF bailouts etc)
8. The USA needs Pakistan to do its dirty work against Iran which is why it summoned Munir
9. THE USA tried to do the same for Modi but he flatly refused and preferred to go to Croatia instead !!
10. Lastly the Indus water treaty still stands suspended

Just the above listed well-known facts tell you that the Pakistan is a nation that is literally a slave of the USA. India on the other hand is definitely not. Moreover in that video of Ishaq Dar he openly welcomes interference from any and all prominent nations in the world.

So you tell me why you think India made the call based on those above facts.




Are you accusing me for that digression ?
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Ishaq dar also admitted that Rubio spoke with him and said will you stop fighting if India does...he said yes..then Vance or rubio conveyed the same to India and India said we achieved our goal ..hitting the terror HQ ..we were done on first day itself and all other actions were retaliation to Pak actions .so yes let the Pak DGMO call...
 
Operation Sindoor will be remembered as a defining moment in India's Defense policy.

India's biggest weakness has always been its complacency - a slow-moving mindset rooted in the dangerous assumption that full-scale conflict is unlikely or distant. Decades have been lost in this slumber, where critical defense projects were delayed, underfunded, or deprioritized, not mostly due to lack of means, but due to misplaced comfort.

This complacency bubble built on the belief that diplomacy and deterrence alone would suffice was violently burst by the urgency of Operation Sindoor. A moment that compelled India’s policymakers, military leadership, and defense industry to conduct a long-overdue audit of national preparedness.

While our adversaries particularly China were building integrated command structures, expanding their drone and missile capabilities, and mastering layered air defense systems, India had allowed itself to trail behind, believing time was on its side. Pakistan, though far weaker from economic and military point of view is on the verge of getting deliveries of massively discounted 5th Gen Chinese fighter jets while our 5th Gen squadrons are nowhere on the horizon. Regardless of how effective the Chinese equipments are during war time, India cannot afford to stay complacent about national security.

The awakening has begun however. Since Operation Sindoor, India has entered a phase of accelerated military modernization out of sheer necessity. Programs that were moving at a glacial pace have found their footing. Indigenous development is no longer a slogan; it’s a survival imperative.

Air defense is being reimagined with new urgency. India is no longer content with short-range systems like Akash or imported SAMs. Projects like XR-SAM and a future S-500-like system is already being envisioned. The country is working toward a truly layered air shield, with integrated command and control, capable of responding to everything from low-flying drones to hypersonic missiles. We demonstrated this in an efficient manner although at a much lower level in the escalatory ladder. We need to be prepared for bigger attacks in the future and we have already started working towards it.

Equally important is the transformation in drone warfare. Once a laggard in this space, India has moved quickly from dependency on Israeli platforms to indigenous solutions like Archer-NG, TAPAS-BH, and the stealth UCAV Ghatak. India as a drone-exporting nation was unthinkable only months ago, but now it seems like we might be improving in this regard by leaps and bounds very soon. Swarm drones, kamikaze UAVs, AI-backed ISR tools have become top priorities.

The Pralay missile has been cleared for deployment. Tejas Mk1A is in active production, with Mk2 and AMCA being fast-tracked. Artillery is being upgraded with indigenous howitzers, and the submarine fleet is now receiving urgent attention with Project 75I and DRDO’s AIP tech. Across land, sea, air, and cyberspace India is plugging the gaps ata rapid pace.

Operation Sindoor truly triggered a national reckoning. It forced India to admit that a great power cannot afford to be caught sleeping while its rivals move with purpose. Especially when one of those rivals is China an adversary with not only greater resources but a ruthless focus on strategic advantage. In the long term, it is China, not Pakistan, that India must outthink, outpace, and outlast. Sindoor reminded us that time is not an ally unless we are using it.
 
Indian delegate member Sai Tharoor slamming Russian senator in French meanwhile pak delegates getting schooled everywhere 🤣

 
Prime Minister Narendra Modi hailed India's defence capabilities, asserting that Indian forces brought Pakistan to its knees during Operation Sindoor using domestically manufactured weapons.

"We are becoming self-reliant in the defence sector. And we have seen its effect during Operation Sindoor as well. Our forces forced the enemy to surrender in 22 minutes with weapons made in India. I am confident that in the times to come, made in India weapons will be famous all over the world," he said.

"Recently, the world saw what India is capable of. Operation Sindoor has made India's tough policy against terrorism absolutely clear to the world. We have shown that no place is safe for terrorists who shed the blood of Indians," the PM said at an event to mark the centenary celebration of the conversation between social reformer Sree Narayana Guru and Mahatma Gandhi.

Modi said his govt had worked on the ideals of the revered spiritual guru who wanted a strong India that was free of any discrimination. "Sree Narayana Guru wanted a strong India. For the empowerment of India, we have to be ahead in every aspect - economic, social and defence. Today, the country is moving on this path. India is rapidly moving towards becoming the world's third largest economy," he added.

Source: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...inutes-says-pm-modi/articleshow/122057758.cms
 
Ball Blazer said:
Prime Minister Narendra Modi hailed India's defence capabilities, asserting that Indian forces brought Pakistan to its knees during Operation Sindoor using domestically manufactured weapons.

"We are becoming self-reliant in the defence sector. And we have seen its effect during Operation Sindoor as well. Our forces forced the enemy to surrender in 22 minutes with weapons made in India. I am confident that in the times to come, made in India weapons will be famous all over the world," he said.

"Recently, the world saw what India is capable of. Operation Sindoor has made India's tough policy against terrorism absolutely clear to the world. We have shown that no place is safe for terrorists who shed the blood of Indians," the PM said at an event to mark the centenary celebration of the conversation between social reformer Sree Narayana Guru and Mahatma Gandhi.

Modi said his govt had worked on the ideals of the revered spiritual guru who wanted a strong India that was free of any discrimination. "Sree Narayana Guru wanted a strong India. For the empowerment of India, we have to be ahead in every aspect - economic, social and defence. Today, the country is moving on this path. India is rapidly moving towards becoming the world's third largest economy," he added.

Source: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...inutes-says-pm-modi/articleshow/122057758.cms
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Winning against Pakistan isn't something that we would dance over in India. In cricket you don't go mad when you defeat Bangladesh.

We were particularly happy about the performance BrahMos missiles followed by Air Defence. Rafales performanc ehas been deemed satisfactory if not spectacular.
 
You guys are dancing even on a 0-6 loss.
As far as Rafales are concerned, please remember, 'it is a very potent jet, if employed well'
Bhaijaan said:
Winning against Pakistan isn't something that we would dance over in India. In cricket you don't go mad when you defeat Bangladesh.

We were particularly happy about the performance BrahMos missiles followed by Air Defence. Rafales performanc ehas been deemed satisfactory if not spectacular.
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Bhaijaan said:
Winning against Pakistan isn't something that we would dance over in India. In cricket you don't go mad when you defeat Bangladesh.

We were particularly happy about the performance BrahMos missiles followed by Air Defence. Rafales performanc ehas been deemed satisfactory if not spectacular.
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You struggle against a country 4-5 times smaller than you. No shame.

I was worried when a war broke out, but after recent events I’m not so worried about India or my family in Pakistan. You can’t come close to our border and we don’t even have any economic centres like India to target other than Karachi port.

Airbases can be built and rebuilt with assets moved around.

Basically you can’t win against Pakistan.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Operation Sindoor truly triggered a national reckoning. It forced India to admit that a great power cannot afford to be caught sleeping while its rivals move with purpose. Especially when one of those rivals is China an adversary with not only greater resources but a ruthless focus on strategic advantage. In the long term, it is China, not Pakistan, that India must outthink, outpace, and outlast. Sindoor reminded us that time is not an ally unless we are using it.
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It's good that Indians finally acknowledging the threat of China...The ones who can literally turn off the tap on India 🚱
 
Rana said:
Their oblivion. Meaning China will become obliterated at some point by engaging with India :ROFLMAO:

“We are China’s Singham” :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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It is inevitable.

Whether it would be by the Santani Bharat or by Dar al Khilafa Al-Hinddiyah
 
@uppercut @Devadwal @Bhaijaan @straighttalk what a great diplomatic victory sir 🤣🤣🤣
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Rajnath Singh refuses to sign SCO document as Pak-China snub Pahalgam

China and its 'all-weather friend' Pakistan tried to divert the attention from terrorism in the SCO document, but Rajnath Singh firmly stood his ground on India's stand on terrorism.

No joint statement issued at SCO Summit in China. Document skipped Pahalgam, mentioned Balochistan

Pakistan has accused India of creating unrest in Balochistan

Defence Minister Rajnath Singh refused to sign the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) document that would have diluted India's stand on terrorism and the Pahalgam terror attack, which left 26 dead, sources said. Due to divergence on the issue of terrorism, the SCO decided not to issue a joint statement.

Sources said China, which holds the SCO chair, and its "all-weather friend" Pakistan tried to divert the attention from terrorism in the SCO document, skipping any mention of the Pahalgam attack. However, the document mentioned Balochistan, a veiled attempt to accuse India of creating unrest in the Pakistani province.

However, Rajnath Singh firmly stood his ground on India's stand on terrorism.

The SCO Summit, held in Qingdao, China, saw the Indian and Pakistani defence ministers come face-to-face for the first time since the Pahalgam attack and Operation Sindoor. The chill was evident as no pleasantries were exchanged with Pakistan Defence Minister Khawaja Asif at the meeting, sources said.

The summit brought together defence leaders from the organisation's ten member states, including China, Russia, Pakistan, and India.

RAJNATH SINGH TEARS INTO PAKISTAN
In his address at the SCO summit, Singh launched an all-out attack on Pakistan without naming it, saying some countries were using cross-border terrorism as an "instrument of policy" to provide shelter to terrorists.

"There should be no place for such double standards. SCO should not hesitate to criticise such nations," the Defence Minister said in a strong statement.

He also raked up the April 22 terror attack in Kashmir's Pahalgam, stressing that its pattern matched with Lashkar-e-Taiba's previous strikes in India.

The Resistance Front (TRF), an offshoot of the Pakistan-based LeT, had claimed responsibility for the attack in Pahalgam's Baisaran Valley, which left 25 tourists and one local Kashmiri dead.

"Dealing with these challenges requires decisive action... India is following a policy of zero tolerance towards terrorism," he underlined.

Pakistan, with help from China, had also managed to get TRF's name removed from the April 25 UN Security Council statement on the Pahalgam terror attack.

Defending Operation Sindoor, where the armed forces destroyed nine terror camps deep inside Pakistan, Rajnath Singh said India was just exercising its right to defend against terrorism and deter future cross-border attacks.

Source: India Today
 
It’s a great moment for India to expose China at the SCO a summit which serves no other purpose other than giving India an opportunity to expose China and Pakistan on a regular basis. They hate to have us as part of it lol 😂
 
The Bald Eagle said:
@uppercut @Devadwal @Bhaijaan @straighttalk what a great diplomatic victory sir 🤣🤣🤣
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Rajnath Singh refuses to sign SCO document as Pak-China snub Pahalgam

China and its 'all-weather friend' Pakistan tried to divert the attention from terrorism in the SCO document, but Rajnath Singh firmly stood his ground on India's stand on terrorism.

No joint statement issued at SCO Summit in China. Document skipped Pahalgam, mentioned Balochistan

Pakistan has accused India of creating unrest in Balochistan

Defence Minister Rajnath Singh refused to sign the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) document that would have diluted India's stand on terrorism and the Pahalgam terror attack, which left 26 dead, sources said. Due to divergence on the issue of terrorism, the SCO decided not to issue a joint statement.

Sources said China, which holds the SCO chair, and its "all-weather friend" Pakistan tried to divert the attention from terrorism in the SCO document, skipping any mention of the Pahalgam attack. However, the document mentioned Balochistan, a veiled attempt to accuse India of creating unrest in the Pakistani province.

However, Rajnath Singh firmly stood his ground on India's stand on terrorism.

The SCO Summit, held in Qingdao, China, saw the Indian and Pakistani defence ministers come face-to-face for the first time since the Pahalgam attack and Operation Sindoor. The chill was evident as no pleasantries were exchanged with Pakistan Defence Minister Khawaja Asif at the meeting, sources said.

The summit brought together defence leaders from the organisation's ten member states, including China, Russia, Pakistan, and India.

RAJNATH SINGH TEARS INTO PAKISTAN
In his address at the SCO summit, Singh launched an all-out attack on Pakistan without naming it, saying some countries were using cross-border terrorism as an "instrument of policy" to provide shelter to terrorists.

"There should be no place for such double standards. SCO should not hesitate to criticise such nations," the Defence Minister said in a strong statement.

He also raked up the April 22 terror attack in Kashmir's Pahalgam, stressing that its pattern matched with Lashkar-e-Taiba's previous strikes in India.

The Resistance Front (TRF), an offshoot of the Pakistan-based LeT, had claimed responsibility for the attack in Pahalgam's Baisaran Valley, which left 25 tourists and one local Kashmiri dead.

"Dealing with these challenges requires decisive action... India is following a policy of zero tolerance towards terrorism," he underlined.

Pakistan, with help from China, had also managed to get TRF's name removed from the April 25 UN Security Council statement on the Pahalgam terror attack.

Defending Operation Sindoor, where the armed forces destroyed nine terror camps deep inside Pakistan, Rajnath Singh said India was just exercising its right to defend against terrorism and deter future cross-border attacks.

Source: India Today
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The Bald Eagle said:
@uppercut @Devadwal @Bhaijaan @straighttalk what a great diplomatic victory sir 🤣🤣🤣
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Rajnath Singh refuses to sign SCO document as Pak-China snub Pahalgam

China and its 'all-weather friend' Pakistan tried to divert the attention from terrorism in the SCO document, but Rajnath Singh firmly stood his ground on India's stand on terrorism.

No joint statement issued at SCO Summit in China. Document skipped Pahalgam, mentioned Balochistan

Pakistan has accused India of creating unrest in Balochistan

Defence Minister Rajnath Singh refused to sign the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) document that would have diluted India's stand on terrorism and the Pahalgam terror attack, which left 26 dead, sources said. Due to divergence on the issue of terrorism, the SCO decided not to issue a joint statement.

Sources said China, which holds the SCO chair, and its "all-weather friend" Pakistan tried to divert the attention from terrorism in the SCO document, skipping any mention of the Pahalgam attack. However, the document mentioned Balochistan, a veiled attempt to accuse India of creating unrest in the Pakistani province.

However, Rajnath Singh firmly stood his ground on India's stand on terrorism.

The SCO Summit, held in Qingdao, China, saw the Indian and Pakistani defence ministers come face-to-face for the first time since the Pahalgam attack and Operation Sindoor. The chill was evident as no pleasantries were exchanged with Pakistan Defence Minister Khawaja Asif at the meeting, sources said.

The summit brought together defence leaders from the organisation's ten member states, including China, Russia, Pakistan, and India.

RAJNATH SINGH TEARS INTO PAKISTAN
In his address at the SCO summit, Singh launched an all-out attack on Pakistan without naming it, saying some countries were using cross-border terrorism as an "instrument of policy" to provide shelter to terrorists.

"There should be no place for such double standards. SCO should not hesitate to criticise such nations," the Defence Minister said in a strong statement.

He also raked up the April 22 terror attack in Kashmir's Pahalgam, stressing that its pattern matched with Lashkar-e-Taiba's previous strikes in India.

The Resistance Front (TRF), an offshoot of the Pakistan-based LeT, had claimed responsibility for the attack in Pahalgam's Baisaran Valley, which left 25 tourists and one local Kashmiri dead.

"Dealing with these challenges requires decisive action... India is following a policy of zero tolerance towards terrorism," he underlined.

Pakistan, with help from China, had also managed to get TRF's name removed from the April 25 UN Security Council statement on the Pahalgam terror attack.

Defending Operation Sindoor, where the armed forces destroyed nine terror camps deep inside Pakistan, Rajnath Singh said India was just exercising its right to defend against terrorism and deter future cross-border attacks.

Source: India Today
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Well a terrorist state and it's all weather friend aren't expected to sign anything condemning the home grown jehadis...for them Hafeez and Maulana are their national heroes..given 21 gun salute when they meet their imaginary honors after slaughtering innocents in the name of religion...so it's a long expected lines
 
straighttalk said:
Well a terrorist state and it's all weather friend aren't expected to sign anything condemning the home grown jehadis...for them Hafeez and Maulana are their national heroes..given 21 gun salute when they meet their imaginary honors after slaughtering innocents in the name of religion...so it's a long expected lines
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What about your old god father Russia, or Central asian countries.... Don't we hear Indians cheering their diplomatic prowess here 24/7
 
Boyka said:
You struggle against a country 4-5 times smaller than you. No shame.

I was worried when a war broke out, but after recent events I’m not so worried about India or my family in Pakistan. You can’t come close to our border and we don’t even have any economic centres like India to target other than Karachi port.

Airbases can be built and rebuilt with assets moved around.

Basically you can’t win against Pakistan.
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Yes we know that ..you define victory by shooting a jet down which cannot be brought again... And jump around in streets because your entire country was not invaded...or your leaders are not disposed off...when that's never the adversary's objective... But at least I like that you accepted that Pak targets civilian areass and India bombs jehadis and uniformed jehadis. That's a good start.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
What about your old god father Russia, or Central asian countries.... Don't we hear Indians cheering their diplomatic prowess here 24/7
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Who is the host and the chair? When India hosted g20..reference to Ukraine was dropped. It says a lot that you are cheering diplomatic isolation because Pakistan and China supported terrorists over India...that's a given ..what's new...if us or Russia did this .I agree that's a loss.
 
straighttalk said:
Yes we know that ..you define victory by shooting a jet down which cannot be brought again... And jump around in streets because your entire country was not invaded...or your leaders are not disposed off...when that's never the adversary's objective... But at least I like that you accepted that Pak targets civilian areass and India bombs jehadis and uniformed jehadis. That's a good start.
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No one talks about victory other than you losers because you constantly get embarrassed as Indians that you look for validation everywhere. It’s war not a 50 over WC game.
 
straighttalk said:
Who is the host and the chair? When India hosted g20..reference to Ukraine was dropped. It says a lot that you are cheering diplomatic isolation because Pakistan and China supported terrorists over India...that's a given ..what's new...if us or Russia did this .I agree that's a loss.
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Best solution is to sit with Pak and settle the Kashmir dispute.... isn't it obvious now after multiple wars...
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Best solution is to sit with Pak and settle the Kashmir dispute.... isn't it obvious now after multiple wars...
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Why would we want to? There is nothing to settlem you claim entire Kashmir...we claim entire Kashmir. The only solution is to freeze the border. For us it doesn't matter..it has been like that for decades...our govt makes some noise to ensure the claims are clear. We don't wage war over Kashmir..you wage war over Kashmir and have failed every time. We really don't care about your land your people or anything..as long as you don't send terrorists to our country. We wish you well and wish you success but until you guys stop the futile pursuit of terrorism or Kashmir..there is nothing to talk. The talk can only happen when Paksitan shows action- handing over the terrorist leaders..then probably we accept the current loc as border and focus on ensuring IWT is back on and trade etc will automatically follow.
 
straighttalk said:
Why would we want to? There is nothing to settlem you claim entire Kashmir...we claim entire Kashmir. The only solution is to freeze the border. For us it doesn't matter..it has been like that for decades...our govt makes some noise to ensure the claims are clear. We don't wage war over Kashmir..you wage war over Kashmir and have failed every time. We really don't care about your land your people or anything..as long as you don't send terrorists to our country. We wish you well and wish you success but until you guys stop the futile pursuit of terrorism or Kashmir..there is nothing to talk. The talk can only happen when Paksitan shows action- handing over the terrorist leaders..then probably we accept the current loc as border and focus on ensuring IWT is back on and trade etc will automatically follow.
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Ok hand over just IOK to Pakistan or either give it liberation from occupation...Unlike China, Pak need not to take interest in Ladakh and Jammu... Musharraf suggested the same formula but as usual...Indian establishment didn't let that happen...a golden rule for peace... Subjugation of humans is the biggest terrorism in modern times...Don't take lead from Israel
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Ok hand over just IOK to Pakistan or either give it liberation from occupation...Unlike China, Pak need not to take interest in Ladakh and Jammu... Musharraf suggested the same formula but as usual...Indian establishment didn't let that happen...a golden rule for peace... Subjugation of humans is the biggest terrorism in modern times...Don't take lead from Israel
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But rich after what you guys do to minorities Balochistan and allow your overlords to do to Uyghurs and the genocide you pulled in Bangladesh...Indian army does not commit killings for fun..if Pak terrorists and kashmiri militants fire there are repurcussions..same would happen if my state starts formentig terrorism... Why would we hand over iok..why wouldn't you hand over pok...the deal was accepting loc as boundary not handing over territory ..that's a non starter for both parties...we are perfectly ok with status quo...except the terrorism bit but under Modi that will be taken care of and the next Congress party can't go back to the nuke excuse as it is conclusively proven either Pak won't use nuke unless their country is destroyed completely..which India won't try...or Pak has no working. Strategic nuke but dirty bombs..or the nukes command and control are with China or USA..as leaving it in the hands of Pakistan is a disaster waiting to happen due to close proximity to Islamic fanatics and lack of money and scientific resources.
 
Boyka said:
No one talks about victory other than you losers because you constantly get embarrassed as Indians that you look for validation everywhere. It’s war not a 50 over WC game.
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Bit dense eh after your post ended with win or loss...says the country which celebrates bases blown apart publicly by taking victory processions and awarding failed marshall awards .lmao..can't make this up...every defeat 65 71 siachen- Kargil is celebrated ...can't blame you guys though you and your media are under military rule..so information is censored . Enjoy the sweet sound and sight of victory..
 
The Bald Eagle said:
It's good that Indians finally acknowledging the threat of China...The ones who can literally turn off the tap on India 🚱
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Ya only a fool will not acknowledge the threat but they won't do your bidding.. the relationship is reverse.. you are to do their bidding to do what you are asked to do in return for finance debt and free arms that you test on their behalf...
 
straighttalk said:
Bit dense eh after your post ended with win or loss...says the country which celebrates bases blown apart publicly by taking victory processions and awarding failed marshall awards .lmao..can't make this up...every defeat 65 71 siachen- Kargil is celebrated ...can't blame you guys though you and your media are under military rule..so information is censored . Enjoy the sweet sound and sight of victory..
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Okay but you stopped fighting after one day of Pakistan fighting back.

Please keep the tears flowing, we have no water in Pakistan and it’s really hot.
 
Boyka said:
Okay but you stopped fighting after one day of Pakistan fighting back.

Please keep the tears flowing, we have no water in Pakistan and it’s really hot.
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Ya isn't that smart..get in hit the jehadis .achieve your objective...thenhit the bases..and when Paksitan wants to retaliate..do ceasefire..achieve your objectives with no repurcussions....I would applaud such smart leadership..maro but maar mat khao..Israel did the same top...kill Hamas and Hezbollah..defeat assad...kill the top generals..the top scientists and destroy nuclear reactors and then do ceasefire...love this kind of strategy..one side achieves their objectives..the other side can sell a mirage to their people.
 
straighttalk said:
Ya isn't that smart..get in hit the jehadis .achieve your objective...thenhit the bases..and when Paksitan wants to retaliate..do ceasefire..achieve your objectives with no repurcussions....I would applaud such smart leadership..maro but maar mat khao..Israel did the same top...kill Hamas and Hezbollah..defeat assad...kill the top generals..the top scientists and destroy nuclear reactors and then do ceasefire...love this kind of strategy..one side achieves their objectives..the other side can sell a mirage to their people.
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You can’t come close to our border.

Pathetic for 75B spend and 1B population. Pathetic.

Prasidh Krishna impact.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Best solution is to sit with Pak and settle the Kashmir dispute.... isn't it obvious now after multiple wars...
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What Kasmir dispute? For us there is no such issue as Kashmir dispute. It's an intergral part of India.​
 
Hitman said:
What Kasmir dispute? For us there is no such issue as Kashmir dispute. It's an intergral part of India.​
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These guys lives in lala land. They still thinks Kashmir is an issue for India. Even Kashmiris dont feel that way anymore as evident from Pahalgam attack when locals were angry on Pakistanis.

Pakistan should solve its own countries problem of poverty, lawlessness and how to get out of IMF. Next time if they try to terrorist attack in India again, they will get beaten worse than on 7th may.

#NurKhanAirbase
 
Rajdeep said:
These guys lives in lala land. They still thinks Kashmir is an issue for India. Even Kashmiris dont feel that way anymore as evident from Pahalgam attack when locals were angry on Pakistanis.

Pakistan should solve its own countries problem of poverty, lawlessness and how to get out of IMF. Next time if they try to terrorist attack in India again, they will get beaten worse than on 7th may.

#NurKhanAirbase
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Najam Sethi once said it best on TV, 'Dekhiye, Kashmir toh aapko milna nahin hain'.

That was not Najam Sethi speaking. That was a rational man with a proper working brain, not living in a parallel world speaking. We Indians might as well start claiming that Balochistan will become a part of India. Will that turn out to be true?

I find it extremely strange that a country living on handouts and bailouts from the IMF still hasn't learned their lesson and keep parroting the same rubbish.​
 
Rajdeep said:
These guys lives in lala land. They still thinks Kashmir is an issue for India. Even Kashmiris dont feel that way anymore as evident from Pahalgam attack when locals were angry on Pakistanis.

Pakistan should solve its own countries problem of poverty, lawlessness and how to get out of IMF. Next time if they try to terrorist attack in India again, they will get beaten worse than on 7th may.

#NurKhanAirbase
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I think the residents object to being occupied, that’s why stuff like Pahalgam happens. Don’t cry to us when it happens.

We don’t want Kashmir keep it dumbo.
 
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