Read my post again which you quoted ... Where did I say INDIA surrendered ?
I have been asking the same question for months. Good luck getting an answer, lol.
Andhbhakts don't have guts to answer this.
Fair ...
Ho gumya empty words ka bhaukna..
Or a more smarter person will say france doesn't want to share IP...but then that goes above the average Paksitani brainIndia Failed to Hit PAF Base Sargodha | Indian Defence Expert Says | Defence Reactions
above at 2.20 your own defence journalist - admits that you embarrased yourselves - you shot down your own down - its the helicopter i referred earlier on ----- rest of video shows you why you didnt hit kirana air base as its right behind the mountain (my previous post above i said sagodha - i meant kirana) - also shows you a fools guide on your your brahmos missles flies far too low and cannot manuever above the mountain to hit the base
Indian Accepting J-10C Killed Rafale
Reacting to Visuals of All Indian Jets Shot Down On 07 May | Defence Reactions
clearly shows 7 of your jets downed, by your own indian sources lol , its just one of them where the geleote which cannot be deemed as factual
France Refuses to Share Source Code for Rafale Jets! $7 Billion Blow To India. DRDO was Right
added this for fun, has nothing to do with the coflict, shows you that the french dont trust you, they wont give you the source code for the rafael - its very limited without this and those extra rafaels you bought (massively overpriced) = are all junk = might as well and start to ingrave in them incoming pl-15 / pl-17
yet again, you cant prove anything, just show you have nothing, no journalist confirming anything from your end, yet you claimed you hit 11 pakistan bases - showed no proof, hit no bases , you barey landed them on some runways - which didn nothing, as remember you lot attacked first - if you attacked teh runway to stop out jets - show you whos stupid
so your crying that yet again ive showed you your own sources linked inside those videos, stop the crying boy - its embarrasing
you still believing a AI doctored pic, badly ai done, thats why when trump made his speech - didn't he say you agreed to the ceasfire first and then he had to ring pakistan - which took a few hrs = oooooooo yes he did .What does the pictures show..damage to either runway hangar radar stations weapons depot or aircraft in case of Bholari.
So what other evidence do you need other than their party satellite images and actual before and after images.
Airbase has four imp structures runway hangar radar and weapons depot. In the images either runway or hangar or in some cases radars were hit. That's critical damage enough to stop operation. No wonder Munir ran to papa trump to beg for ceasefire...operation manhoos ended in 4 hrs......radars switched off as per social media handicap army Khwaja Asif...
Did you mean like The entire airbase was wiped away from face of earth...were you thinking we are claiming that.
hahahahahahahahahahahahah - you probabaly watched 1 video and finally saw all the indian source journalists admitting to the annihilation we gave you.
yet no evidence shown from you - just share me 1 indian own source which states your opinion..... bet you can't
Why stop at the rather peripheral objective of desstroying few already vacated terror camps when you have the upperhand in s confict you started ?
Dude I am just tired arguing with someone who is dumb as rock.
That was the stated objective...did modi say we will invade and occupy Pakistan. We achieve our stated objective. We don't believe In ghazwa e hind or other vulgar logic..so what is the point of killing and getting killed to occupy a land whose population is hostile to us and frankly provides zero value...water starved...jihadi mindset..bankrupt and no economif growth..so what do we gain by invading that land or occupying that territory..whole lot of problems at cost of so many lives and destroying our economy.
do you know what IP is .that is called stealing info...yes macaron is rushing to India because they are pissed and India is buying rafales because they didn't work...get out of your fantasy land...everyone tries to protect their IP. ...not a new conceptyet no evidence shown from you - just share me 1 indian own source which states your opinion..... bet you can't
every journalist states france doesnt trust you, cuz they know you will start to steal info but more importantly- more trust was lost since you blocked them from the investigation into first rafael we shot down..... but we now know - we can fully say we shot down 4 rafaels - as even your own media accepts this, from your own journalists.
hence trump says 8 expensive jets were shot down, that aint reference to the jf-17 = as its not expensive.
Keep embarrasing yourselves sanghis:
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Please share actual video not pak twitter channel or YouTube channel..if you can't then don't waste time.
they thought pakistan wouldn't attack them and when we did, they ran and begged trump to intervene for a ceasefire
you playing with your dolls again, nyt confirmed nothing - showed a fake ai picture, nothing more - you clown missed our bases - you didnt even stop our jets from taking off - you were grounded for 2 days - cuz we annihilated you, you cant even show any proof - thats how crap your media is - look at how many different journalists confirmed all the damage we did to you
is that english,
shown you plenty of videos and images and even videos from your own sources and neutral sources. the footage was gathered by the indians,
it was then a pakistani youtuber showed it all., in the same yearOk I will stop engaging with you beyond this post.
Perpetrators of pahalgam are dead.
Really can you show the word fake in the American pilots video..please im waiting .share the time stamp
Pahalgam handler is already taken care by unknown gun men
diyatvusa.com
There is no independent verified report on this.
www.bbc.com
Pahalgam handler is already taken care by unknown gun men
Pakistani Army Officer Linked to Pahalgam Attack Shot Dead by unidentified gunmen
Lieutenant Colonel Imran Dayal of the Pakistan Army was shot dead by unidentified gunmen in Dera Ismail Khan, in Pakistan’s Khyber...
How the hell would anyone provide an independent verified report...when us claimed it killed Osama...did it do a third party verification. If you choose not to trust Indian govt .that's your prerogative.There is no independent verified report on this.
Just because Amit Shaha said it, you believe it. And this is from end of July.
India says it has killed militants who shot dead tourists in Kashmir
The men carried out the attack that sparked conflict between India and Pakistan, India's home minister says.
We attacked Pakistan in May. Again what objectives did we achieve?
We should have cleaned house first and ensure the perperators are caught, trialed and then given justice.
These are Indian lives we are talking about that were killed gruesomely in an undignified manner. Not some Bollywood movie.
We and our Government should stay as per our constitution for any public act.
What dream bollywood world do you live in?
The frequency of attacks have gone down and have been military focused and not civilian focused.
Also note the Paks accusations of India doing this and that on baloch...either they are empty words or they don't have the guts to do anything in India...this opens up more opportunity for unknown men without any repurcussions.....
When did Modi or his Govt state the precise objective of Op Sindoor ?
Let's take things one by one
I can answer all your facts if I want but over the years Ive realised its futile arguing with stupid. You see I could sit her post a few videos. Present my facts based on nearly 30 years of following airforces and aircraft technology. I could sit for a few hours and dissect evidence with analysis (my day job so I know how to analyse) and present my conclusions. You will simply ask a stupid idiotic question and not believe a word I have written. Look son, I doubt you were born when I started arguing with online indian defence enthusiasts. They never change but they have gotten worse over the years. So no, I won't answer your stupid questions. If you want to have an honest conversation I am happy to indulge but not if you are simply going to just talk nonsense.
No. But I listen to people who know more about the Pakistan military than them and I am an analyst by trade so I am fully capable of analysing information from a number of sources and then drawing my own conclusions. That Swiss report was a travesty and lacks any credibility at all. But you indians know best. You destroyed 10 f16's,4 saabs, 4 jf17's. 14 radar stations. All of.our Hq9's. So be happy son. You are now officially a super power.
That guy does not know what irony means
No that's not what they are claiming...they are claiming. Any evidence shown by any credible media like NYT WAPO bbc or swiss think tank is fake or paid for if it shows the truth and that's anti Pakistan..any time it shows some thing positive..it becomes source of truth...prob is they only have a Reuters report published by two Paksitani journalist as legitimate source and a bbc verify that published their claims..not independent evidence...so our resident PP is reduced to sharing YouTube channels and Twitter feed that is juvenile and uses AI slop...they don't even think if these were any good it would be carried by at least mainstream pak channels or dgispr...but can't expect much from a low educated populace
I would say its a combination. You see the problem is for some reason you dont question your military any more. After 65 the military looked at its failings and then had 71. Since then there have been sporadic clashes but by and large India has had the upper hand. For example in Kargil we didnt have any BVR missiles and stayed away from the front. India owned the skies. So the PAF decided to do something about it and it did. In the meantime the IAF stayed relatively static.
Also pilots can only be trained within the system they are put in. Its not their fault. The system itself is the one that needs looking at. The PAF has a very tight training programme. It knows its outnumbered and outgunned. But it also knows its weaknesses. And they know when they fly they could get wiped out. Its this attitude that keeps them on their toes. Most Pakistanis expect losses against India. Why wouldnt we? I mean logically we should have lost at least two air craft. So the issue is for the top brass in the IAF. Also who has made money from the French deal?
Absolutely. Just tell everyone what happened and then demand the govt support them and stop doing stupid under the table deals with foreign companies that keep selling you duds. But the problem is many pilots just leave for the private sector. The good ones go. The officers also leave. And recruitment is an issue. So you dont get the best of the best. Also what is the IAF's mission? I bet they dont really know this.
trump now saying 10 jets we downed, loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
War? It was a 4-day test match.
if it was pakistani jets im sure you can prove it - im still waiting for proof on 11 pakistani bases destroyed, yet we all only some pak bases runways got damaged - yet didnt stop pak jets from flying - as we all know what happened - we flew out, hit many of your bases, took down 8 jets - you begged america to intervene for a ceasefire.Indian or Pakistani jets ?
ok, so nooooooooooow cnn are reliable - when thr journalist announced 1 indian jet downed - rafael - you always rejected that claim how come now that CNN are reliable...
he doest need to stay pakistai or indian, as he always made reference to this conflict as indian losing jets, you have to grow up mate
Let me ask you once more
Dnt engage with him ..I have stopped responding .he is either a pre teen or a troll...
