A sincere question to Indians, what did your government achieve from "Operation Sindoor"?

[sweep_shot]

My ancestors fought the Hindus in India and I have no doubt that Muslims will fight them again in the battlefield and we will take revenge of each and every atrocity which they have inflicted upon Muslims and we ail revenge each and every taunt which they have directed towards Muslims.

But I make Dua for their Guidance and believe that if Allah Ta'ala can give Guidance to the Pratap Singh Gautam who physically attacked and destroyed Babri Masjid and turned him into him Mohammed Umar Gautam then anything is possible...

Some of our forefathers may have fought against Islam and we are Muslim, today.

Give no quarter and break to these idolators but we do not support injustice.​

Ameen.

India is a regional threat and I hope they will abandon their evil ways or get neutralized.

 

[Hitman]

You have been granted the freewill to do as you wish in this world and the consequences of your actions will reach you in the hereafter.​

I have already made my decision by accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Don't need anything else.

 

[uppercut]

You have been granted the freewill to do as you wish in this world and the consequences of your actions will reach you in the hereafter.​

As I said...

And as I said you are a patheic liar. I stand by everything I said in my past discussions with you. The very fact that you lost your marbles and started abusing me is a tell tale sign that you were nailed properly and caught pants down in the discussions.

Come back when you have developed your maturity levels to discuss any serious topic.

 

[LordJames]

And as I said you are a patheic liar. I stand by everything I said in my past discussions with you. The very fact that you lost your marbles and started abusing me is a tell tale sign that you were nailed properly and caught pants down in the discussions.

Come back when you have developed your maturity levels to discuss any serious topic.

There’s no harm in living in an alternate reality—unless you start thinking it's the truth. Then it's just delusion dressed as denial.​

 

[sweep_shot]

The same crowd that cheers for genocide, ethnic cleansing, and lynching humans over a cow has the audacity to question your sanity, for simply asking them relevant questions. The truth is, your very existence as a Bangladeshi triggers them. You don’t even need to speak, your identity alone presses their fragile buttons.

Exactly.

This is why I don't feel bad when they face adversities. They cheer when Israel kill innocent Palestinian women and children. They are evil monsters.

I hope they will be humbled/neutralized like Nazis were neutralized after WW2. They are the modern day Nazis.

I just want to add one thing. I don't face these hostilities from Indians in real life. Maybe because it is Canada and they can't behave as they please here. I also don't face these from Hindus in Bangladesh as they represent a small minority (around 10%).

I guess they can only behave like this in India where they are backed by their extremist government. They can't do that anywhere else.

 

[LordJames]

I just want to add one thing. I don't face these hostilities from Indians in real life. Maybe because it is Canada and they can't behave as they please here. I also don't face these from Hindus in Bangladesh as they represent a small minority (around 10%).

I guess they can only behave like this in India where they are backed by their extremist government. They can't do that anywhere else.

Hindutva only show courage when it’s 100 against 1 and backed by the full weight of the Indian state—its men, weapons, and machinery. Without that, they fold like cowards.

Just like Jews only attack women and children using heavy weapons from far away...

 

[uppercut]

There’s no harm in living in an alternate reality—unless you start thinking it's the truth. Then it's just delusion dressed as denial.​

You should know EVERYTHING about living in an alternate world as you are a permanent member of that parallel world that gives you perfect shelter from being brutally exposed.

IF AND When you find the exit ( and the intestinal fortitude ) from that world comeback and discuss like a man instead of hurling insults like a girl when you cannot handle bare facts.

 

[sweep_shot]

Hindutva only show courage when it’s 100 against 1 and backed by the full weight of the Indian state—its men, weapons, and machinery. Without that, they fold like cowards.

Just like Jews only attack women and children using heavy weapons from far away...

Yes. They always gang up to fight. It is funny.

I have never seen them fight one-on-one.

Pretty cowardly.

 

[uppercut]

Hindutva only show courage when it’s 100 against 1 and backed by the full weight of the Indian state—its men, weapons, and machinery. Without that, they fold like cowards.

Just like Jews only attack women and children using heavy weapons from far away...

How many hindutvas here on PP ? I will school you in your own backyard and you will either runaway like a scared kitten or start hurling abuses when you cannot handle the harsh facts.

 

[HalBass9]

Exactly.

This is why I don't feel bad when they face adversities. They cheer when Israel kill innocent Palestinian women and children. They are evil monsters.

I hope they will be humbled/neutralized like Nazis were neutralized after WW2. They are the modern day Nazis.

Let them be. They’re the last holdouts from the Global South still clinging to the defense of genocide and ethnic cleansing, while the rest of the world has moved on. Just yesterday, Australia saw one of the largest anti-genocide protests, a clear sign that the tide has turned in the West. There’s no audience left for those who fantasize about slaughtering humans over a cow.

The frustration is evident. Indians believed they had global support, but now they’re facing the harsh reality, the very people they defend, despite their documented crimes, don’t even want them in the same room.

Call them out for supporting genocide, ethnic cleansing, and the obsession with slaughtering humans over a cow, and they’ll label you a “Jihadi.” Makes you wonder, what do they call a white person who refuses to endorse genocide and human slaughter over religious fanaticism?

 

[Hitman]

How many hindutvas here on PP ? I will school you in your own backyard and you will either runaway like a scared kitten or start hurling abuses when you cannot handle the harsh facts.

For them, they can abuse and hurl insults at us 24/7, but when we reply in kind it's disrespectful on our part.

 

[uppercut]

For them, they can abuse and hurl insults at us 24/7, but when we reply in kind it's disrespectful on our part.

Exactly ... but it is mucho fun to rag-doll them in their own backyard just purely on facts and see them squirming in no time at all. lol

 

[HalBass9]

Anyone who supports slaughtering humans over a cow deserves either relentless public humiliation or a permanent stay in a mental asylum, there’s no third option.

 

[HalBass9]

Anyone who supports slaughtering humans over a cow deserves either relentless public humiliation or a permanent stay in a mental asylum, there’s no third option.

Same goes for the supporters of the genocide and ethnic cleanser.

 

[sweep_shot]

Let them be. They’re the last holdouts from the Global South still clinging to the defense of genocide and ethnic cleansing, while the rest of the world has moved on. Just yesterday, Australia saw one of the largest anti-genocide protests, a clear sign that the tide has turned in the West. There’s no audience left for those who fantasize about slaughtering humans over a cow.

The frustration is evident. Indians believed they had global support, but now they’re facing the harsh reality, the very people they defend, despite their documented crimes, don’t even want them in the same room.

Call them out for supporting genocide, ethnic cleansing, and the obsession with slaughtering humans over a cow, and they’ll label you a “Jihadi.” Makes you wonder, what do they call a white person who refuses to endorse genocide and human slaughter over religious fanaticism?

Yup. Even westerners are starting to hate them now because of their antics. We are seeing Indians getting assaulted in many countries (recent one was in Ireland).

Them labeling us jihadis, Islamists etc. doesn't mean anything. Who cares what they say? They are mental patients who need psychiatric helps. They are stupid low-IQ bigots.

Anyone who supports slaughtering humans over a cow deserves either relentless public humiliation or a permanent stay in a mental asylum, there’s no third option.

Agree.

Considering he lives in USA, I doubt he will say these in real life. He can lose his job or face other consequences (I am assuming he has a job; LOL).

 

[HalBass9]

Yup. Even westerners are starting to hate them now because of their antics. We are seeing Indians getting assaulted in many countries (recent one was in Ireland).

Them labeling us jihadis, Islamists etc. doesn't mean anything. Who cares what they say? They are mental patients who need psychiatric helps. They are stupid low-IQ bigots.

Agree.

Considering he lives in USA, I doubt he will say these in real life. He can lose his job or face other consequences (I am assuming he has a job; LOL).

You don’t need to engage them. Just let them talk amongst themselves and they’ll eventually expose who they truly are, not that they haven’t already. But it’s always entertaining to watch them twist themselves into knots, desperately trying to defend the indefensible.

 

[uppercut]

Anyone who supports slaughtering humans over a cow deserves either relentless public humiliation or a permanent stay in a mental asylum, there’s no third option.

Anyone who openly DEMANDS rights to indulge in deliberately desecrating Hindu beliefs in India are nothing more than animals.

PS: how is the progress on the home work assignment I gave you a while back ?

 

[HalBass9]

Anyone who openly DEMANDS rights to indulge in deliberately desecrating Hindu beliefs in India are nothing more than animals.

PS: how is the progress on the home work assignment I gave you a while back ?

Cow is an animal.

 

[uppercut]

Cow is an animal.

The cow is considered as an abode of all Hindu Gods per our beliefs. Dont care what you think. And those that don't agree with that will be dealt with harshly like how rogue wild animals or vermin are dealt with.

So if you and your fellow Jihadi's dont like being treated like rogue wild animals or vermin ... then the very simple and obvious solution is to start behaving like Humans by respecting hindu beliefs when in India. What part of it do you not understand ? Perhaps the itch to indulge in open bigotry gets in your way ?

 

[straighttalk]

What Op Sindoor and Pak response has shown ..and what both countries achieved militarily.

India has shown that India cns hit anything and anywhere in Pakistan and their air defense is non existent. India achieved its target of assaulting who killed innocent civilians and then when uniformed protectors of terrorists tried to intervene..air bases 11 out of 13 were hit along with radars...effective message..escalate more...we can increase the number of missiles and there is literally nothing you can do. Hence the ceasefire request for. pakistan.

What has Pakistan achieved. Assuming the claims of fighter jets down is true... We can say that PAF on day 1 under IAF operational constraints got some blows but couldn't protect the terrorists. And thereafter once the IAF undertook SEAD and DEAD..PAF was non existent. All of the Pak attacks on strategic India sites were repulsed effectively though damage happened in border shelling and some drones on civilians areas. No military installation suffered more than negligible damage.

So it is understandable why Pak wants to only highlight jets down. Rectifying no hitting military is easy for Indian air force..rectifying entire country's air defense is harder for Pakistan. Hence the Pak minister was panicking in USA.

 

[Vikram1989]

The terrorists neutralised in Pahalgam encounter have been identified as:

Suleman Shah (aka Faizal Jatt) – A++ LeT commander, mastermind & lead shooter
Abu Hamza (aka Afghan) – A- grade, second gunman
Yasi (aka Jibran) – A- grade, rear security

Both Suleman Shah and Abu Hamza were carrying laminated voter slips issued by the Election Commission of Pakistan.

The serial numbers matched voter rolls from:
NA-125 Lahore
NA-79 Gujranwala

Proof of Pakistani citizenship.

Recovered from the site:
NADRA-linked Smart ID chips
Micro-SD card from a damaged sat-phone
Data included full biometric records (face, fingerprints, family trees) of all 3 terrorists.

Address origins:
Changa Manga, Kasur
Koiyan near Rawalakot, PoK

DNA CONFIRMED:
Mitochondrial DNA from bloodstained shirt at Pahalgam MATCHED the bodies recovered from Dachigam.

Satellite Phone used (IMEI: 86761204-XXXXXX) pinged Inmarsat-4 F1 nightly between Apr 22–Jul 25.

Triangulation narrowed signals to Harwan forest (4 km grid), aiding search ops. Pakistan’s footprint is evident.

Handler identified:
Sajid Saifullah Jatt LeT’s South Kashmir ops chief, resident of Changa Manga, Lahore.

Voice samples from the sat-phone matched his earlier intercepted calls.
He controlled and coordinated this cross-border op.

Voter IDs, Candyland chocolates, GPS: Trail of Pahalgam terrorists leads to Pak

Findings drawn from the post-encounter evidence released by security agencies establish beyond doubt that the Pahalgam terrorists were from Pakistan.

www.indiatoday.in

@straighttalk
@Hitman
@Rajdeep

 

[Hitman]

The terrorists neutralised in Pahalgam encounter have been identified as:

Suleman Shah (aka Faizal Jatt) – A++ LeT commander, mastermind & lead shooter
Abu Hamza (aka Afghan) – A- grade, second gunman
Yasi (aka Jibran) – A- grade, rear security

Both Suleman Shah and Abu Hamza were carrying laminated voter slips issued by the Election Commission of Pakistan.

The serial numbers matched voter rolls from:
NA-125 Lahore
NA-79 Gujranwala

Proof of Pakistani citizenship.

Recovered from the site:
NADRA-linked Smart ID chips
Micro-SD card from a damaged sat-phone
Data included full biometric records (face, fingerprints, family trees) of all 3 terrorists.

Address origins:
Changa Manga, Kasur
Koiyan near Rawalakot, PoK

DNA CONFIRMED:
Mitochondrial DNA from bloodstained shirt at Pahalgam MATCHED the bodies recovered from Dachigam.

Satellite Phone used (IMEI: 86761204-XXXXXX) pinged Inmarsat-4 F1 nightly between Apr 22–Jul 25.

Triangulation narrowed signals to Harwan forest (4 km grid), aiding search ops. Pakistan’s footprint is evident.

Handler identified:
Sajid Saifullah Jatt LeT’s South Kashmir ops chief, resident of Changa Manga, Lahore.

Voice samples from the sat-phone matched his earlier intercepted calls.
He controlled and coordinated this cross-border op.


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Voter IDs, Candyland chocolates, GPS: Trail of Pahalgam terrorists leads to Pak

Findings drawn from the post-encounter evidence released by security agencies establish beyond doubt that the Pahalgam terrorists were from Pakistan.

www.indiatoday.in

@straighttalk
@Hitman
@Rajdeep

Don't you know it's all a conspiracy against 'doodh se dhula hua' Pakistan? Anything that goes against Pakistan or Muslims in general is a conspiracy theory.​

 

[Patriot]

What Op Sindoor and Pak response has shown ..and what both countries achieved militarily.

India has shown that India cns hit anything and anywhere in Pakistan and their air defense is non existent. India achieved its target of assaulting the pigs who killed innocent civilians and then when uniformed protectors of terrorists tried to intervene..air bases 11 out of 13 were hit along with radars...effective message..escalate more...we can increase the number of missiles and there is literally nothing you can do. Hence the ceasefire request for. pakistan.

What has Pakistan achieved. Assuming the claims of fighter jets down is true... We can say that PAF on day 1 under IAF operational constraints got some blows but couldn't protect the terrorists. And thereafter once the IAF undertook SEAD and DEAD..PAF was non existent. All of the Pak attacks on strategic India sites were repulsed effectively though damage happened in border shelling and some drones on civilians areas. No military installation suffered more than negligible damage.

So it is understandable why Pak wants to only highlight jets down. Rectifying no hitting military is easy for Indian air force..rectifying entire country's air defense is harder for Pakistan. Hence the Pak minister was panicking in USA.

Come on man, I have been fair with you in our discussions, so there is no need for hyperbolic statements like India achieving SEAD/DEAD. The satellite images do not provide sufficient evidence that you wiped out Pak’s AD. Also, there is an image of a Brahmos fragment, so some were intercepted.

Also, even if you had wiped out the AD, destroying all military infrastructure is not easy and if you even get close to that, Pakistan will go nuclear as trying to mass destroy military infrastructure is an escalation.

Finally, missiles are expensive and at some point you are going to run out as well. I don’t think India has the numbers or the effectiveness of the missiles like Iran does.

 

[straighttalk]

Come on man, I have been fair with you in our discussions, so there is no need for hyperbolic statements like India achieving SEAD/DEAD. The satellite images do not provide sufficient evidence that you wiped out Pak’s AD. Also, there is an image of a Brahmos fragment, so some were intercepted.

Also, even if you had wiped out the AD, destroying all military infrastructure is not easy and if you even get close to that, Pakistan will go nuclear as trying to mass destroy military infrastructure is an escalation.

Finally, missiles are expensive and at some point you are going to run out as well. I don’t think India has the numbers or the effectiveness of the missiles like Iran does.

Yes you have been fair but you are misinterpreting my statements.
I said India carried out dead and dead...I didn't say it was comprehensive or India achieved total air superiority. With the ability to fire from across the border...you really don't need to get air superiority.

Again..you are saying what would be Paksitan response. No one is denying that. Ofcourse it wont be a one way fight but point is if India can hit protected air bases with targeted attacks..then it can hit anywhere with more saturation attacks as the air bases would be max protected anyhow.

What you are responding is how Paksitan will respond to such an attack. I don't disagree with that. Same thing might play out on our side if you guys got the fifth gen advantage as we discussed in our previous conversation.

Pak can probably hit many sites as the air defense may not be able to pick out the j35 but similarly India will responsd with massive force to dissuade that. So your thinking that the fear of escalation will prevent a full attack by India is correct as that is precisely the reason India launched targeted attacks and not full scale bombing on the air bases as the message is symbolic not actual destruction of the base.

 

[Patriot]

Yes you have been fair but you are misinterpreting my statements.
I said India carried out dead and dead...I didn't say it was comprehensive or India achieved total air superiority. With the ability to fire from across the border...you really don't need to get air superiority.

Again..you are saying what would be Paksitan response. No one is denying that. Ofcourse it wont be a one way fight but point is if India can hit protected air bases with targeted attacks..then it can hit anywhere with more saturation attacks as the air bases would be max protected anyhow.

What you are responding is how Paksitan will respond to such an attack. I don't disagree with that. Same thing might play out on our side if you guys got the fifth gen advantage as we discussed in our previous conversation.

Pak can probably hit many sites as the air defense may not be able to pick out the j35 but similarly India will responsd with massive force to dissuade that. So your thinking that the fear of escalation will prevent a full attack by India is correct as that is precisely the reason India launched targeted attacks and not full scale bombing on the air bases as the message is symbolic not actual destruction of the base.

India has more depth in the nuclear front with your SSNBs which not even the US can take out on first strike. But I think Pakistan also has sufficient protection to prevent India taking out its nukes on first strike, no neither sides have comprehensive first strike capability.

I also think the BrahMos platform is one of the best in the world as it is a cruise missile that can be launched from air/land/sea and is subsonic with low altitude, so there is really no answer to that. I don’t think even your own S400s will be able to neutralise it.

Pakistan’s only play here would be offence. Better defence with early warning satellite data as well as radar and potentially a more modern Chinese Air Defence system (they are looking to acquire the HQ-19) will be good, but I think even then, stopping a subsonic cruise missile is not guaranteed. India are also looking to develop a supersonic version.

So Pakistan should get their own subsonic/supersonic cruise missiles from China or better yet, get ToT to develop them at home. They are looking to acquire the DF-17 which is supersonic.