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Aaron Finch hits 155* as Australia comfortably defeat Pakistan by 8 wickets in 2nd ODI at Sharjah

It's a reality check for some of our fans who are overjoyed with a score of a measly 280 when batting first.

This praising the hundreds by batsmen as great knocks when they are match losing innings not match winning 20-30 runs short on both matches.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] this is mediocre team and the sooner people realise it like I did few months back the better it is.
 
Let's not go there again. Two failed stints including 9th and 7th in ODI and T20I rankings is enough evidence.

Yeah, i know. But at least Rahat developed swing under him. So did Junaid. Name one bowler who improved during Azhar Mehmood tenure.
 
Lol Imad is not spinner compared to Haris tbh

Haris 4-18-0
Imad 6-40-0

I don't like Hafeez but he can do better job than Imad if we are looking at Imad as an all rounder.

Atleast in UAE you expect Imad to take some wickets. Sarfraz use him well but he doesnt have the skills to be a wicket taking bowler.
 
Pakistan need to change the whole set up , they need to bring in specialist OD coaches and revamp the entire structure putting emphasis on OD . Need to bring in multi dimensional batters and bowlers , also get in power hitting coach
 
Which was difficult on that sticky Dubai wicket, considering Shadab's economy of 3.something in the previous two games and Imad's supporting role.

Boult destroyed us in the first game but we found a way to negate him. Why is it so wrong to assume that the New Zealand batsmen would have done their homework on Shadab and Imad as well?

As I said, no matter how you look at it, we were slight favorites and the result was not a forgone conclusion.

Hence, using that series as an example of our redemption in ODIs is futile.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] this is mediocre team and the sooner people realise it like I did few months back the better it is.

I thought people would wake up after the Asia Cup, but I was wrong. Pakistani fans are something else.
 
When Australia chased down 280 comfortably the other day why would you bat first again?

This is 320 wicket but our rubbish batsmen made people think 280 is a massive score.

We're continually told that 280 is match winning score in the UAE.
 
I thought people would wake up after the Asia Cup, but I was wrong. Pakistani fans are something else.

I feel ashamed to support these mediocre players,few performances here and there and we make them super stars.I feel they do not deserve my support atleast,as it should not be so cheap that these players should get.
 
Corrupt Tauseef Ahmed made sure to get his son into the Pakistan Cup squads whereas Zafar Gohar and Raza Hasan were sidelined.

That tells you the story of selection in Pakistan cricket.
 
Our bowling has been atrocious.

It has, but it would be unfair to blame them totally when your batsmen are setting up mediocre totals. Most teams try to bat other teams out of the game but our team likes to bring the opposition into play by saying the bowling can defend such pathetic totals which has proven to be a myth.
 
Corrupt Tauseef Ahmed made sure to get his son into the Pakistan Cup squads whereas Zafar Gohar and Raza Hasan were sidelined.

That tells you the story of selection in Pakistan cricket.

Funny that you are quick to point out Tauseef Ahmed's nepotism but never Inzi's..... Actually it is Inzi's fault as chief selector to allow Tauseef's son to be selected. Yet you will blame Tauseef.



People and their biases


:salute
 
It has, but it would be unfair to blame them totally when your batsmen are setting up mediocre totals. Most teams try to bat other teams out of the game but our team likes to bring the opposition into play by saying the bowling can defend such pathetic totals which has proven to be a myth.

What r u on about? Even if 350 was set on this pitch our bowling is so poor that even 350 would have been chased down
 
What r u on about? Even if 350 was set on this pitch our bowling is so poor that even 350 would have been chased down

Could be, but my point is that we need to set more challenging totals, at least we got a chance then.
 
Why are people wrist slitting over this defeat? This is a reserve side that pakistan are playing and FYI this same Australian team beat full strength India in India. There shouldn't be any surprises.

Once Hassan, Shaheen, Babar, fakhar, Shadab and Hafeez return things will be normal again.
 
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This bowling is garbage


Even 350 wouldn't be good enough for this bowling.
 
Warner, Finch, Khawaja, Smith,, Handscomb(wk), Maxwell, Stoinis, Starc, Zampa, Cummins, Coulter-Nile

This is capable of winning WC again.
 
Why are people wrist slitting over this defeat? This is a reserve side that pakistan are playing and FYI this same Australian team beat full strength India in India. There shouldn't be any surprises.

Once Hassan, Shaheen, Babar, fakhar, Shadab and Hafeez return things will be normal again.

This Australian team is also a weakened side missing their main players
 
This world cup is reminding me of the 2015 world cup man, this is very scary.

No I don’t think so...

To be fair, our batting looks settled, it is Pakistan’s bowling and especially the spin-department which is a worrying sign.

I think Pakistan will reach the semis atleast.
 
Problem with Pakistani side is quite clear. No power hitting in the side and too many people just satisfied being 'anchors' and accumulators even on a flat pitch. And lack of penetration in bowling, especially in spin. Spin used to be our main weapon during Misbah era with Ajmal and Afridi choking runs and creating pressure, now our leggies are comparable to what England and Australia plays. We need to get our spin combo right before the world cup if we are to challenge any top side. Our batting cannot put up 330+ on a consistent basis and our bowling lacks the bite that it was known for.
 
You are not weak when you beat India in India after being 2-0 down and win 3 in a row.

Exactly. I don’t know what more Warner and smith could have done than what Khawaja and handscomb did against ind.
 
Why are people wrist slitting over this defeat? This is a reserve side that pakistan are playing and FYI this same Australian team beat full strength India in India. There shouldn't be any surprises.

Once Hassan, Shaheen, Babar, fakhar, Shadab and Hafeez return things will be normal again.

Normal as in continue getting massacred?
 
Damn! This looks a good jersey for Pak. Much better than the blue ones they wore in SAF odis . Much better with the white font too.
 
Not getting a wicket before they reach 200 is an embarrassment.
 
Why are people wrist slitting over this defeat? This is a reserve side that pakistan are playing and FYI this same Australian team beat full strength India in India. There shouldn't be any surprises.

Once Hassan, Shaheen, Babar, fakhar, Shadab and Hafeez return things will be normal again.
All these players were a part of playing 11 during Asia Cup too. What did they achieve besides beating AFG in last over?
 
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It happens when you’re getting smacked up this badly
 
Normal as in continue getting massacred?

When did the massacre happen? As far as I remember Pak matched punch for punch in south Africa and unfortunately lost 2-3 that too in south Africa. Drew 1-1 (could have won 2-1 if not for rain ) against a high class New Zealand team. Only exception is the Asia cup which I think is a one off.
 
Funny that you are quick to point out Tauseef Ahmed's nepotism but never Inzi's..... Actually it is Inzi's fault as chief selector to allow Tauseef's son to be selected. Yet you will blame Tauseef.



People and their biases


:salute

You must have missed Imam scoring in the South Africa ODI series. Imam also performed during PSL so it's not like he doesn't make the side on merit.
 
Is pitch not helpful or Khwaja has learnt to play spinners.
 
All these players were a part of playing 11 during Asia Cup too. What did they achieve besides beating AFG in last over?

Asia cup was a one off. We are a much better team than what we displayed in that tournament. We were just not there mentally.
We will be fine when regulars come back and I even back them to beat England in the ODIs next month.
 
Sad part is Inzi the great didn't even select any other spinner.
 
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This team needs someone like Sarfraz yelling at them constantly
 
Yasir was smiling like we have won the match or something.
So infuriating,his smile.
 
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