Abundance of average Australian talent in IPL

[Snowflake]

Lol, discrimination is unfair selectivity...

There's nothing unfair here tbh. It's their league, they have all the right to decide who plays and who doesn't.

Crying about fairness and discrimination is just pathetic and weak tbh. Build your own league and make it big enough that you don't care where else you play. Why do we need to convince someone that they are being unfair by not extending us an invite to their own house? That's just sad

 

[FastBowlingAllrounder]

There's nothing unfair here tbh. It's their league, they have all the right to decide who plays and who doesn't.

Crying about fairness and discrimination is just pathetic and weak tbh. Build your own league and make it big enough that you don't care where else you play. Why do we need to convince someone that they are being unfair by not extending us an invite to their own house? That's just sad

My point here isn't that Pakistani players should start playing in IPL or be allowed to do so. Just trying to make the other poster realize the absurdity and extremity of his arguments when he is trying to quote American concentration camp court cases and say that isn't discrimination.

 

[Devadwal]

If india ban Tahir then its called discrimination ( he don't have pakistan passport or he can't Said anything wrong about india ) but not about Pakistani players .

 

[fitCricFan]

It’s great to see talent from all over the world make millions and enjoy themselves in IPL.
Pakistani players will never get a whiff of it and rightly so.

Agreed, PCB burnt that bridge a long time ago

 

[street cricketer]

babar azam isn't friendly with you? Fakhar Zaman isnt friendly with you? How can you prove how each individually is not friendly?

You yourself are admitting the based on your prejudice against Pakistanis, you will discriminate against all Pakistanis from joining the IPL.

I really wonder, how you guys put it when you see other nations discriminate agaisnt Indians? Than you probably whine about it.

How do you explain the blanket ban on Indian movies in Pakistan then.. Let's be honest, it goes both ways.

It's a stretch to call it racism, political embargo is probably a better word. Currently the political climate and bitterness between India and Pakistan is no less than the bitterness between North and South Korea and you don't see both interacting with each other a lot do you..

Personally I don't mind the Pakistani players in the IPL, but I can see where it could get awkward for the IPL. Imagine some Pakistani player playing in the IPL tweets or comments on the Kashmir issue and makes nationalistic political comments like Afridi often does. Then the situation could get messy for the IPL because the nationalistic sentiments among Indians could be then whipped up and they could protest against and call for boycott against the franchise employing the said Pakistani player, which is an unnecessary headache for the franchises.

Right now the political bitterness between both countries is as high as it has ever been, and I don't see the sentiments calming down anytime sooner. North and South Korea could probably come to a reconciliation before India and Pakistan do in my opinion.

 

[fitCricFan]

that league where Sohail Tanvir was the highest wicket taker?

Even Mohammad Abbas would had been taking t20 wickets there

That was 13 years ago and IPL was just starting up, nob really big names from foreign teams and mainly youngsters from first class cricket. Look at the gains the league has made in a decade and then look at the trajectory of PSL

 

[Abu_Hamza]

You can whine all you want. Fact is, Pakistan will never play a bilateral series with India and Pakistani players will never get to be in the IPL again.

Not playing with people who want nothing but harm for India and its people, if it is called racism then so be it.

People should better make peace with it that India and Pak wont play except ICC tournaments as the relation between the two countries is getting bitter by every day.

 

[Mamoon]

As I said in the other thread, PCB is responsible for the banishment of Pakistani players from IPL.

Had they not blocked Pakistani players from participating in 2009, Pakistani players would have played at least 3-4 additional seasons of IPL.

PCB thought they could derail IPL by blocking its players, but it backfired in spectacular fashion.

IPL is now bigger than Pakistan cricket. It has become a giant without the contribution of a single Pakistani player, and this uncomfortable fact gives us a lot of pain.

Blocking its players from participating in the 2009 edition created a lot of distrust between the franchises and PCB.

They realized that PCB could back out at any moment. You cannot walk in and out depending on your mood.

Hence, when PCB shamelessly allowed its players to enter the 2010 IPL auction, IPL franchises rightfully humiliated the players by not selecting anyone of them.

The emergence of Modi/BJP in 2014 would have eventually led to a ban on Pakistani players anyway, but had PCB not tried to pull off its flop stunt in 2009, our players would have definitely played IPL until 2012-13. Remember, they even toured India in that period.

PCB is responsible for the final losses that Pakistani players incurred, not BCCI.

 

[Snowflake]

The fact that best choice Australian players like Cummins and Steve Smith, David Warner are available and even more will be available once COVID settles down of course proves things otherwise.
Half of selected Australian T20 WC is available to play.

All countries top players play in IPL and will continue doing so. Except from Pakistan.

There you go, that wasn't so hard was it?

You can have an argument without throwing in the typical uncouth money retort

 

[Ab Fan]

An event where the greatest test batsman on this planet does not make it to the first XI of an IPL team led under the leadership and mentoring of his own countrymen and a proud ex-cricketer, Ricky Ponting shouldn't be judged based on a few mediocre talents. You will get bit of mediocrity even in internationals too.

The reality is that IPL is the WSC of modern era cricket. It is on par with WT20 and greater than international T20s and it was just proved a month ago when the captain of World Test Championship 2019-21 winner, prioritised playing for a bottom ranked team of this season, Sunrisers Hyderabad over playing international T20s series vs Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

PSL is telecasted in India, IPL is banned in pakistan.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

There you go, that wasn't so hard was it?

You can have an argument without throwing in the typical uncouth money retort

Off course it is about money. Else why would Pakistani players want to play in a league ? Would they play for free. It is a free market and highest bidder right now is IPL.

 

[Ab Fan]

Off late, Kane Williamson became Pakistan fans favourite due to the win in WTC vs India. But they have been put into uncomfortable circumstances now by the same man as he decided prioritising playing for a bottom ranked IPL team over playing against Pakistan in the same format.

 

[Shafi]

Why these poor begging mentality? Don't our players get enough to live comfortable life. Average people in sub-continent works much harder than these players and get pennies. Greedy people can never live happy life regardless how much they have. Also our players if they have any dignity shouldn't play in rival team's franchise leagues even they are allowed to play.

 

[Shafi]

Off course it is about money. Else why would Pakistani players want to play in a league ? Would they play for free. It is a free market and highest bidder right now is IPL.

Our players are just too greedy and no-self pride. Don't have any respect of these greedy leeches.

 

[IMMY69]

There are two major problems with the IPL that put me off it.

Yes Pakistan stopped its players participating 10-12 years ago snd yes it was politically driven.
But the country has had different governments since then and current one said live on TV "if India takes one step we will take two"....

Furthermore, since the Pakistani's were excluded, they had toured India in an ODI/T20 series so the exclusivity problem exists only from the Indian side. They simply want to destroy Pakistan, those that use the argument about Pakistan doing it first are being extremely disingenuous and petty.

Secondly, the fact that India does not release its players to play in other leagues.
This shows their mentality. Hiw can someone enjoy the IPL when it doesn't even want to help the other leagues by allowing its players to participate?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

There are two major problems with the IPL that put me off it.

Yes Pakistan stopped its players participating 10-12 years ago snd yes it was politically driven.
But the country has had different governments since then and current one said live on TV "if India takes one step we will take two"....

Furthermore, since the Pakistani's were excluded, they had toured India in an ODI/T20 series so the exclusivity problem exists only from the Indian side. They simply want to destroy Pakistan, those that use the argument about Pakistan doing it first are being extremely disingenuous and petty.

Secondly, the fact that India does not release its players to play in other leagues.
This shows their mentality. Hiw can someone enjoy the IPL when it doesn't even want to help the other leagues by allowing its players to participate?

I think this is a great move from the BCCI. It protects their league and indirectly gives lower tier players a chance to shine in lower tier leagues.

I hope that ultimately cricket adopts a model where you can play your countries league plus one other. This will actually improve the quality and uniqueness of each league.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Off late, Kane Williamson became Pakistan fans favourite due to the win in WTC vs India. But they have been put into uncomfortable circumstances now by the same man as he decided prioritising playing for a bottom ranked IPL team over playing against Pakistan in the same format.

Most people lost respect for Williamson when he posed in a nuclear hazmat suit during the IPL while people were dying in the street with covid in India.

I don't think as many Pakistanis respect him as you would like to believe with your cheap trolling.

 

[Major]

That was 13 years ago and IPL was just starting up, nob really big names from foreign teams and mainly youngsters from first class cricket. Look at the gains the league has made in a decade and then look at the trajectory of PSL

You do know that sohail tanvirs spell is still the second best spell of ipl in 14 years right?

Can see the gains there

 

[Major]

There's nothing unfair here tbh. It's their league, they have all the right to decide who plays and who doesn't.

Crying about fairness and discrimination is just pathetic and weak tbh. Build your own league and make it big enough that you don't care where else you play. Why do we need to convince someone that they are being unfair by not extending us an invite to their own house? That's just sad

Brother, i dont really care that we dont play in a league where after 14 years sohail tanvirs spell is the second best.....

Point is, indians have a habit of whining if they get discriminated or face racism anywhere in the world.

They exclude pakistanis and that is pure discrimination. Whats funny is how the indian posters here are calling it selectivity and what not when they themselves have accidentally proven that its discrimination.

Discrimination is not something tjat should be tolerated.

 

[Smbhayi]

and oddly enough after 14 years its still the second best spell

Hows that odd..? Best ODI spell is yet to break and its 20+ years old..

 

[IMMY69]

Brother, i dont really care that we dont play in a league where after 14 years sohail tanvirs spell is the second best.....

Point is, indians have a habit of whining if they get discriminated or face racism anywhere in the world.

They exclude pakistanis and that is pure discrimination. Whats funny is how the indian posters here are calling it selectivity and what not when they themselves have accidentally proven that its discrimination.

Discrimination is not something tjat should be tolerated.

You could even use the South African example.
During apartheid the world had placed sanctions on the country, they were barred from playing international cricket. Yet the players were allowed to play for the English Counties.
English cricket did not discriminate against the players.

 

[Cric_lover4487]

The coaching staff if most franchises comprises of Aussie ex players. Even the support staff has lots of aussies. They push for Aussie players to be picked in the IPL auction. Hence, you see many mediocre Aus players in IPL. SL coaches like Mahela never push for SL cricketers. It’s only recently we are seeing more Indian coaches coming up like Kumble, Dravid etc.

 

[Hasan123]

International cricket has average players and so do other franchise leagues. Why are the average players in the IPL so highlighted lol?

 

[Major]

As I said in the other thread, PCB is responsible for the banishment of Pakistani players from IPL.

Had they not blocked Pakistani players from participating in 2009, Pakistani players would have played at least 3-4 additional seasons of IPL.

PCB thought they could derail IPL by blocking its players, but it backfired in spectacular fashion.

IPL is now bigger than Pakistan cricket. It has become a giant without the contribution of a single Pakistani player, and this uncomfortable fact gives us a lot of pain.

Blocking its players from participating in the 2009 edition created a lot of distrust between the franchises and PCB.

They realized that PCB could back out at any moment. You cannot walk in and out depending on your mood.

Hence, when PCB shamelessly allowed its players to enter the 2010 IPL auction, IPL franchises rightfully humiliated the players by not selecting anyone of them.

The emergence of Modi/BJP in 2014 would have eventually led to a ban on Pakistani players anyway, but had PCB not tried to pull off its flop stunt in 2009, our players would have definitely played IPL until 2012-13. Remember, they even toured India in that period.

PCB is responsible for the final losses that Pakistani players incurred, not BCCI.

Nope, you are wrong.

After the mumbai attacks took place, there was resentment against pakistani people by indians. Thus the foreign ministry deemed it unsafe for us to travel there


By 2009 auctions we were assuming the tensions to have fallen down and pakistanis players would be able to participate.

However, all frachise owners were advised against selecting pakistani players.

If indian owners had prroblem with us, than the knight riders team in cpl owned by srk would had never bought pakistani players.

They were specifically told not to select people of the particular nation.

My issue isnt that our llayers dont get to play in ipl.

My issue is india is the country that cries about discrimination and yet when they discriminate others tehy dont see anything wrong.

We have a poster here who says usa rightly placed japanese in concentration camps and doesnt call thay discrination..

 

[Major]

Hows that odd..? Best ODI spell is yet to break and its 20+ years old..

First of all, ipl isnt 20+ )

Second, you talk about how great your league is, like again, the second best spell belongs to a bowler who we considered a joke all thia time...

 

[Cric_lover4487]

I think this is a great move from the BCCI. It protects their league and indirectly gives lower tier players a chance to shine in lower tier leagues.

I hope that ultimately cricket adopts a model where you can play your countries league plus one other. This will actually improve the quality and uniqueness of each league.

No it doesn’t. If you play in any league outside India, your career is over. Unmukt Chand had to retire to play in US. Yuvi retired to play in Canada. I don’t know if it’s right or wrong but it does surely help IPL to keep its audience loyal to itself. If BCCI releases its players than international cricket might die. All players will sign up for T20 leagues and no one will bother playing test cricket.

 

[Cric_lover4487]

International cricket has average players and so do other franchise leagues. Why are the average players in the IPL so highlighted lol?

Because it’s IPL not PSL. That’s all.

 

[Mamoon]

Nope, you are wrong.

After the mumbai attacks took place, there was resentment against pakistani people by indians. Thus the foreign ministry deemed it unsafe for us to travel there


By 2009 auctions we were assuming the tensions to have fallen down and pakistanis players would be able to participate.

However, all frachise owners were advised against selecting pakistani players.

If indian owners had prroblem with us, than the knight riders team in cpl owned by srk would had never bought pakistani players.

They were specifically told not to select people of the particular nation.

My issue isnt that our llayers dont get to play in ipl.

My issue is india is the country that cries about discrimination and yet when they discriminate others tehy dont see anything wrong.

We have a poster here who says usa rightly placed japanese in concentration camps and doesnt call thay discrination..

IPL 2009 was held in South Africa because of elections in India. Pakistan’s excuse that it was not safe to play in India proved to be irrelevant.

Granted that PCB pulled out before IPL was shifted to South Africa, but they should have showed enough intelligence and foresight to realize that BCCI won’t be hosting IPL in India during elections.

PCB made a miscalculation and it was clearly in poor taste, and IPL franchises repaid it with interest.

You cannot walk in and out of a tournament based on your mood. IPL franchises could no longer trust Pakistani players because PCB could pull out any time. Hence, they decided to move.

PCB is responsible from breaking the trust between itself and IPL. There is no point in pointing fingers at others.

PCB was delusional to think that Pakistani players would be welcomed with open arms in 2010.

 

[Smbhayi]

First of all, ipl isnt 20+ )

Second, you talk about how great your league is, like again, the second best spell belongs to a bowler who we considered a joke all thia time...

Was he a joke in 2007? And the guy still able to get participate in various league.. And actually a joke of a bowler, Stuart Binny, actually hold 10th best bowling ODI figure.. Does that mean the likes of Waseem & Waqar or all pak bowlers (except Afridi) is inferior to him?

 

[Major]

IPL 2009 was held in South Africa because of elections in India. Pakistan’s excuse that it was not safe to play in India proved to be irrelevant.

Granted that PCB pulled out before IPL was shifted to South Africa, but they should have showed enough intelligence and foresight to realize that BCCI won’t be hosting IPL in India during elections.

PCB made a miscalculation and it was clearly in poor taste, and IPL franchises repaid it with interest.

You cannot walk in and out of a tournament based on your mood. IPL franchises could no longer trust Pakistani players because PCB could pull out any time. Hence, they decided to move.

PCB is responsible from breaking the trust between itself and IPL. There is no point in pointing fingers at others.

PCB was delusional to think that Pakistani players would be welcomed with open arms in 2010.

Ipl franchise owners own other teams aswell. Kkr also owns a cpl team, if the trust factor was true they would had not hired pakistani players in other leagues that are owned by indians.

It has been reported many times that the frwnchise owners were told informally not to bid for pakistani players.

Now it depends on what narrative you want to support..

 

[Major]

Was he a joke in 2007? And the guy still able to get participate in various league.. And actually a joke of a bowler, Stuart Binny, actually hold 10th best bowling ODI figure.. Does that mean the likes of Waseem & Waqar or all pak bowlers (except Afridi) is inferior to him?

He was. He was a terrible bowler to begin with.

 

[globalcitizen]

Although I would like Pakistan players to be at the IPL, the current political climate does not allow it. I would put this more as a trade war, rather than discrimination.

India is right to feel Pakistan can earn and then also cause harm to its citizens on the other hand by its policies.
And ultimately it's an indian league and everything in discretion of what Indian people think.

 

[Titan24]

Muzarbani, reallly?.

Has played cricket for Northamptonshire county as well. Is around 6ft6, bowls mid to high 130s kph. Averages 24 in test cricket, 24 in T20I cricket (economy of 7.9), got Babar’s wicket on few occasions, got PSL contract and did pretty well there to. Hits that nagging line and length complemented by his height which is pretty difficult to get hold of when he is on song.

Pretty decent young pacer with good basics and physical attributes. If he would have been part of any other national team he would have been given much more hype.

 

[IMMY69]

Although I would like Pakistan players to be at the IPL, the current political climate does not allow it. I would put this more as a trade war, rather than discrimination.

India is right to feel Pakistan can earn and then also cause harm to its citizens on the other hand by its policies.
And ultimately it's an indian league and everything in discretion of what Indian people think.

A trade war?
How does excluding Pakistani players impact on the Pakistani Government?
More than that, Pakistan Cricket has managed to survive without its players participating in the IPL so what this achieved?

This is political and politics should be kept out of sport. The only people that are impacted are the players and the people who want to watch IPL.

The other excuses just seem petty to me

 

[sweep_shot]

Quality of Australian cricket has gone down.

Modern Aussie players are very average compared to their previous teams.

 

[Major]

Quality of Australian cricket has gone down.

Modern Aussie players are very average compared to their previous teams.

Quality by their own standards. But even yet based on their atheleticism they can beat teams.

The 2015 world cup team wasnt great as its previous teams yet they won the wc.

We still havent been able to win an odi series against them.

Australia creates atheletes that know how to compete.

 

[sweep_shot]

Quality by their own standards. But even yet based on their atheleticism they can beat teams.

The 2015 world cup team wasnt great as its previous teams yet they won the wc.

We still havent been able to win an odi series against them.

Australia creates atheletes that know how to compete.

After Warner and Smith retire, I think they may have a tough time in all formats.

We all saw how they did (with backup players) in Bangladesh and West Indies. They lost 1-4 in each series.

 

[Rajdeep]

Lots of Australian coaches in every team. They convince owners to buy domestic Aussie cricketers with potential at cheap prices. Not sure why its an issue and why OP is complaining? Its not as if IPL is dearth of superstar players. Whose who plays in IPL and the reason it is the biggest cricket league in the world. If in the process few no name players from Australia or England getting exposure, what is the issue?

As far as why Pak players are not being picked, c'mmon guys...this topic has been debated to death. Pak has a league cricket of their own now and has been running successfully for 5 years. Not sure why we still debating on a topic which was debatable back in 2014-2015.

 

[Abu_Hamza]

Lots of Australian coaches in every team. They convince owners to buy domestic Aussie cricketers with potential at cheap prices. Not sure why its an issue and why OP is complaining? Its not as if IPL is dearth of superstar players. Whose who plays in IPL and the reason it is the biggest cricket league in the world. If in the process few no name players from Australia or England getting exposure, what is the issue?

As far as why Pak players are not being picked, c'mmon guys...this topic has been debated to death. Pak has a league cricket of their own now and has been running successfully for 5 years. Not sure why we still debating on a topic which was debatable back in 2014-2015.

Becoz PSL isnt as lucrative as IPL where Pak players dont get picked. Has PSL been more successful then this topic wont have come.

 

[Cric_lover4487]

Our players are just too greedy and no-self pride. Don't have any respect of these greedy leeches.

Bro, players from all countries including mine (India) are like that only. If BCCI permits, all Indian cricketers too will sign up for maximum T20 leagues all around the world. International cricket will die. Cricketers these days care more for lucrative contracts and I don’t blame them. If players in 70s,80s had such option they would have done the same.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Brother, i dont really care that we dont play in a league where after 14 years sohail tanvirs spell is the second best.....

Point is, indians have a habit of whining if they get discriminated or face racism anywhere in the world.

They exclude pakistanis and that is pure discrimination. Whats funny is how the indian posters here are calling it selectivity and what not when they themselves have accidentally proven that its discrimination.

Discrimination is not something tjat should be tolerated.

Tanvir’s spell is still second best because the standard of IPL has improved over the years. It is not easy to replicate that kind of bowling performance with the high quality batsmen in IPL now.

 

[ChennaiFan]

There are two major problems with the IPL that put me off it.

Yes Pakistan stopped its players participating 10-12 years ago snd yes it was politically driven.
But the country has had different governments since then and current one said live on TV "if India takes one step we will take two"....

Furthermore, since the Pakistani's were excluded, they had toured India in an ODI/T20 series so the exclusivity problem exists only from the Indian side. They simply want to destroy Pakistan, those that use the argument about Pakistan doing it first are being extremely disingenuous and petty.

Secondly, the fact that India does not release its players to play in other leagues.
This shows their mentality. Hiw can someone enjoy the IPL when it doesn't even want to help the other leagues by allowing its players to participate?

I agree with you IMMY69. BCCI should have worked on getting the Pakistani players back in IPL after 2011 World Cup at least. I would have loved to see players like Amir, Asif, Babar, Naseem in IPL games.

BCCI does not release it players to foreign leagues to avoid diluting IPL’s brand value which I think is a fair game as long as the Indian players are okay with it.

 

[Local.Dada]

) my god, and this guy still cant see the discrimination. He himself is proving the point

There is no discrimination here. IPL franchises are private businesses and if they feel hiring some players might impact their PR or increase their security spending they are free to take a call on who they can hire or fire. Hiring a Pakistan player the reward is not worth the risk. If Pakistan had an Imran Khan or Wasim Akram who can draw the crowds and increase ratings, I am sure they can also be a little more flexible.

Maybe Pakistan doesn’t have a corporate culture for you to grasp that simple concept. Let me put it this way, it’s like one terror outfit comprising of a certain tribe won’t recruit people from a different tribe in their outfit, it’s not discrimination to be precise,more or less the same principle I guess. That’s the best I could do.

 

[Local.Dada]

I hear Tanvirs name mentioned by Pakistani YouTube experts comprising of their ex legends from time to time, may be his IPL heroics means a lot in Pakistan as well on the other hand most new generation Indian fans don’t even remember who Tanvir is lol even though he did keep himself out there with some inflammatory comments about Hindus. I think his record was broken by Alzarri Joseph who doesn’t have an IPL contract anymore.

 

[Major]

There is no discrimination here. IPL franchises are private businesses and if they feel hiring some players might impact their PR or increase their security spending they are free to take a call on who they can hire or fire. Hiring a Pakistan player the reward is not worth the risk. If Pakistan had an Imran Khan or Wasim Akram who can draw the crowds and increase ratings, I am sure they can also be a little more flexible.

Maybe Pakistan doesn’t have a corporate culture for you to grasp that simple concept. Let me put it this way, it’s like one terror outfit comprising of a certain tribe won’t recruit people from a different tribe in their outfit, it’s not discrimination to be precise,more or less the same principle I guess. That’s the best I could do.

You can use any kind of stupid analogy you want.

Point is indians discriminate against Pakistanis. Funny how you gave the terro outfit example.

So you assume that every pakistani is a terrorist and should be banned.

Pathetic by those people who are the ones who always cry about facing racism.

You are no different than the zionist, who cry about the holocaust but still persecute muslims of palestine

 

[Local.Dada]

You can use any kind of stupid analogy you want.

Point is indians discriminate against Pakistanis. Funny how you gave the terro outfit example.

So you assume that every pakistani is a terrorist and should be banned.

Pathetic by those people who are the ones who always cry about facing racism.

You are no different than the zionist, who cry about the holocaust but still persecute muslims of palestine

I think I made it convenient for you to deflect with an analogy because you missed the actual point I made about why it is not worth the risk or reward for IPL franchises to hire Pakistan players.

There was this American player of Pakistani origin who got hired recently, Azhar Mahmood used the convenient loophole to be a British to play in the IPL and the more popular British-Pakistanis and Khwaja have played the IPL with no problem or discrimination.

Had there been a religious or ethnic discrimination I would have agreed with you but clearly that is not happening.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You can use any kind of stupid analogy you want.

Point is indians discriminate against Pakistanis. Funny how you gave the terro outfit example.

So you assume that every pakistani is a terrorist and should be banned.

Pathetic by those people who are the ones who always cry about facing racism.

You are no different than the zionist, who cry about the holocaust but still persecute muslims of palestine

I have never heard indians complaining about losing any money making opportunity in pakistan.

And you are not Australia or England so dont compare yourself with them. Its laughable that you compare pakistan to thess countries.

 

[Major]

I have never heard indians complaining about losing any money making opportunity in pakistan.

And you are not Australia or England so dont compare yourself with them. Its laughable that you compare pakistan to thess countries.

Again proves my point, you in ur post say it urself that pakistanis are not australians or english, thus based on a person being pakistani is not allowed to play in ipl

 

[Major]

I think I made it convenient for you to deflect with an analogy because you missed the actual point I made about why it is not worth the risk or reward for IPL franchises to hire Pakistan players.

There was this American player of Pakistani origin who got hired recently, Azhar Mahmood used the convenient loophole to be a British to play in the IPL and the more popular British-Pakistanis and Khwaja have played the IPL with no problem or discrimination.

Had there been a religious or ethnic discrimination I would have agreed with you but clearly that is not happening.

Because you lot discriminate based on which country one is a national of. Just because azhar mehmood and imran tahir have british or sa passport, you allowed then to play, of they came through a pakistani passport you wouldt had allowed them to play.

Again that is textboom discrimination. Yet you lot cant understand

 

[unemployedgm]

Brazil Theory: if he was born in Brazil he must be good or know football. Hire him immediately.

 

[Abu_Hamza]

Because you lot discriminate based on which country one is a national of. Just because azhar mehmood and imran tahir have british or sa passport, you allowed then to play, of they came through a pakistani passport you wouldt had allowed them to play.

Again that is textbook discrimination. Yet you lot cant understand

Its not discrimination. Its due to the political tension between the two countries. When they already dont play international matches against each other except ICC tournaments then how Pak players will play in a league owned by BCCI. When the participation of Pak players in India for ICC tournaments also becomes issue for ICC due to the political tensions between the two countries then how Pak players not playing in IPL is discrimination.. A better word would be "ban" than discrimination.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Again proves my point, you in ur post say it urself that pakistanis are not australians or english, thus based on a person being pakistani is not allowed to play in ipl

Yes. Pakistan isnt a friendly country. That has been repeated a 100 times already. Hence pakistanis will not get the same treatment as Aussies or Englishmen.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Because you lot discriminate based on which country one is a national of. Just because azhar mehmood and imran tahir have british or sa passport, you allowed then to play, of they came through a pakistani passport you wouldt had allowed them to play.

Again that is textboom discrimination. Yet you lot cant understand

Many countries offer visa on arrival to many countries but exclude others. Thats not discrimination.

 

[Mesozoic]

Pakistanis do bhangra when some Muslim/Arab country boycotts Israel in any global sporting competition and then say "pOLiTiCs sHoUlD bE kept oUt oF sPoRtS" when shoe is on the other foot..

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistanis do bhangra when some Muslim/Arab country boycotts Israel in any global sporting competition and then say "pOLiTiCs sHoUlD bE kept oUt oF sPoRtS" when shoe is on the other foot..

Pakistan boycotted the 1980 olympics.

 

[Major]

Yes. Pakistan isnt a friendly country. That has been repeated a 100 times already. Hence pakistanis will not get the same treatment as Aussies or Englishmen.

like i said, you lot discriminate Pakistanis.

Dont cry about racism next time when an India gets knifed in an attack in the west

 

[Technics 1210]

At first the attraction to IPL were star players, but said players are slowly retiring or have retired; plus boards such as ECB are prioritising international games over franchise leagues. No surprise BCCI is desperately trying to fill in the gaping holes of quality by signing up an abundance of average players, and not to mention adding 2 more teams just to bolster numbers.

 

[Mesozoic]

Dont cry about racism next time when an India gets knifed in an attack in the west

Yes. Because getting barred from a sporting competition is the same as getting stabbed to death.

 

[MenInG]

Australians have failed to find favour on the second day of bidding at the Indian Premier League 'mega-auction', with T20 World Cup winning captain Aaron Finch headlining a group of players passed in without a bid being laid.

Finch, who set a base price of A$280,000 could not attract a bid, while Nathan Coulter-Nile and Marnus Labuschagne were also overlooked by the 10 IPL franchises.

Coulter-Nile, who last year earned just short of A$1m at the Mumbai Indians, had set a base price of A$372,000, while Labuschagne had a base price of A$186,000.

There are 40 other Australians still in the mix for day two of the IPL mega-auction, with the 10 teams holding a combined A$32.3 million to spend.

A host of Australia's leading T20 talent will have their IPL futures determined while they are on-field in action in tonight's second Dettol T20I against Sri Lanka at the Sydney Cricket Ground.

Among them will be Steve Smith, Adam Zampa and Matthew Wade, the three players who were passed in without a bid being laid on them in Saturday night at their base price of A$372,000.

That trio, plus Finch, Labuschagne and any other unsold players could yet earn deals on day two if they are recalled to the auction block by franchises in the later stages of the bidding process.

This summer's top BBL run scorer Ben McDermott, big-hitter Chris Lynn and Sydney Sixers star wicketkeeper-batter Josh Philippe are among those who will go under the hammer tonight.

Riley Meredith, who last year earned a A$1.42m deal with Punjab Kings, Hobart Hurricanes teammate Nathan Ellis and IPL regulars Kane Richardson and Andrew Tye are also seeking fortnues.

Four Australians earned million-dollar pay days on Saturday, with Josh Hazlewood heading the bunch with a A$1.44m deal to join Virat Kohli's Royal Challengers Bangalore.

Test captain Pat Cummins and the heroes of Australia's T20 World Cup-winning side Mitch Marsh and David Warner were the others to break the seven-figure barrier.

Cummins was sold for A$1.34m to Kolkata Knight Riders in what was a A$1.82m discount on the eye-watering A$3.16m the franchise paid for him last season.

In what many pundits believe is excellent value among the largesse of the IPL, the Ricky Ponting coached Delhi Capitals snapped up both Marsh for A$1.2m and Warner for $A1.16 million, the latter a huge reduction on his $A2.38 million price last year.

Star allrounders Marcus Stoinis and Glenn Maxwell had already secured their extravagant pay days before the auction process: Maxwell was retained by RCB last December for A$2m and will play alongside Hazlewood, while Stoinis was picked up by the new Lucknow franchise for A$1.7 million.

Just when the Australian players can link up with their IPL franchise remains to be seen, with a tour of Pakistan and the end of the domestic season both conflicting with the expected start of the IPL.

The tour of Pakistan runs until April 5 when the one-off T20 will be played, although the three-Test series will finish on March 25.

The Sheffield Shield final is due to finish on April 4.

The schedule for this year's IPL has not yet been revealed but it has been widely reported to be starting on March 27.

Cricket Australia is understood to have told IPL franchises that players involved in the white-ball series against Pakistan will not be released to travel until April 6, while players that make the Shield final will not be able to travel until April 5.

Players wanting to participate in the IPL need a 'No Objection Certificate' from CA to compete, which dictates their availability. These are not usually withheld unless there is national duty, or a medical/fitness reason.

The ability of the Aussies to participate in the final stages of the IPL also remains unclear with a tour of Sri Lanka to feature three T20s, five ODIs and two Tests to be played in June and July, although exact dates have not yet been confirmed.

Australia's national selector George Bailey said the IPL was a "really good development opportunity" for players, but that national duty would always take precedence.

"We do see the IPL as a really good development opportunity when it fits, but there's obviously a huge amount of cricket with a series (in Sri Lanka) planned for immediately-post the IPL as well," Bailey said this week.

"So it will be about working with the individuals to ensure they're getting the preparation they need, but we certainly won't be releasing players to the IPL while Australia are playing."

Australians in the 2022 IPL auction

SOLD

Josh Hazlewood A$1.44m Royal Challengers Bangalore

Pat Cummins A1.35m Kolkata Knight Riders

Mitchell Marsh A$1.2m Delhi Capitals

David Warner A$1.16m Delhi Capitals

UNSOLD

Steve Smith, Matthew Wade, Adam Zampa (base price A$372,000), Aaron Finch (A$280,000), Marnus Labuschagne (A$186,000).

YET TO BE AUCTIONED

Base price of 200 lakh (approx. A$372,000)

Nathan Coulter-Nile, Ashton Agar

Base price of 150 lakh (approx. A$280,000)

Chris Lynn, Usman Khawaja, Kane Richardson

Base price of 100 lakh (approx. A$186,000)

Marnus Labuschagne, Daniel Sams, Andrew Tye, Moises Henriques, Riley Meredith, James Faulkner, D'Arcy Short, Josh Philippe

Base price of 75 lakh (approx. A$142,000)

Nathan Ellis, Jason Behrendorff, Sean Abbott, Billy Stanlake, Ben Cutting

Base price of 50 lakh (approx. A$94,000)

Ben McDermott, Kurtis Patterson, Wes Agar, Jack Wildermuth, Joel Paris, Hilton Cartwright

Base price of 40 lakh (approx. A$75,000)

Tim David, Chris Green

Base price of 30 lakh (approx. A$57,000)

Ben Dwarshuis, Matt Kelly

Base price of 20 lakh (approx. A$38,000)

Hayden Kerr, Tanveer Sangha, Alex Ross, Jake Weatherald, Nathan McAndrew, Tom Rogers, Liam Guthrie, Liam Hatcher, Jason Sangha, Matt Short, Aidan Cahill


https://www.cricket.com.au/news/ipl...ch-lynn-zampa-agar-meredith-marnus/2022-02-13

 

[MenInG]

The IPL auction saw a number of star players remaining unsold throughout the course of two days as Kane Richardson and Adam Zampa also failed to find buyers.

"I was definitely more shocked for him. To be brutally honest, when we left last year, in early circumstances, I remember having a conversation with him. I said to him, look, this may come back and bite us, and at that time it wasn’t a priority for us to be there. We wanted to get back to Australia," Jhye Richardson said

"So I think there’d be some kind of buyers that’d be pretty wary of picking us up thinking that we wouldn’t come again. I definitely think that’s a factor. I’m just speaking on what I think would be a factor in it. I don’t know. I’ve never had a dialogue with a franchise or a person that says that’s what would be the case. But I think I didn’t go the year before as well with the birth of my boy," he added.

Further talking about the IPL, Richardson said: "So my reputation probably is that in the last couple of years I haven't gone so it's obviously not something that I am. I try and play as much cricket as I can. But I think the circumstances in the last couple of IPLs have made me not go. But it's not a reputation I want."

"So that's just us brainstorming. I think that'd be a point of them being wary of us turning up, but I'm not 100 per cent sure," he added.


https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...unsold-at-ipl-mega-auction-1913703-2022-02-16