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The Asia Cup 2022 tournament is underway in the United Arab Emirates with matches being held in Dubai and Sharjah.

The six-team tournament comprising India, Pakistan, Hong Kong, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Afghanistan is currently in the group stage phase. It will be followed by the Super 4s and the final.

What is the Super 4 stage in Asia Cup 2022?

The two groups - Group A with India, Pakistan and Hong Kong and Group B with Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and Bangladesh - will reward four spots to the top two teams in each group to the next stage, the Super 4.

A1, A2, B1 and B2 will then be placed in the same group. The second round-robin stage will have all the teams facing each other.

The top two in the Super 4 stage will then face off in the Asia Cup 2022 final on September 11 in Dubai.

When and where will the Asia Cup Super 4 matches be played?

The Asia Cup Super 4 stage will begin on September 3 in Sharjah, followed by five matches in Dubai until September 9.

Will India play Pakistan again in Asia Cup Super 4?

India and Pakistan could face once again in the Asia Cup 2022 tournament in the Super 4. The teams will face off one another on September 4 in Dubai, provided they finish as the top teams in Group A. India and Pakistan could also meet in the Asia Cup 2022 final, if they manage to finish the Supe 4 round-robin stage in the first and second position.

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...an-afghanistan-bangladesh/article65828648.ece
 
It's purely to milk the India v Pakistan matches in the hope that they will play each other 3 times in the tournament.
 
Saj said:
It's purely to milk the India v Pakistan matches in the hope that they will play each other 3 times in the tournament.
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May sound bit pessimistic of me, but may be they won't play 3 times each other this time round.

Afghanistan vs India for the final? Anyone? :P
 
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Should have been a single round robin format with top 2 in final. As Saj says this format is purely to milk the Pak v India games. Terrible format to be honest.
 
Asia Cup is an irrelevant tournament. Just an excuse to play as many India-Pakistan matches as possible .
 
They are making Hong Kong play just for the sake of it. The idea was to have 2 games minimum of Pak Vs India because even BCCI knows the rivalry pays off well.

Plus, Sri Lanka is dire need of money so I have no isssue.

I would say that a better format could had been a direct Super 5 between the top 5 asian teams. No need to play Hong Kong for the sake of it.

Asia Cup can be marketted better, i believe its a very poorly marketed tournament and has no value. Change the trophy, give it some historical context to it.
 
Major said:
They are making Hong Kong play just for the sake of it. The idea was to have 2 games minimum of Pak Vs India because even BCCI knows the rivalry pays off well.

Plus, Sri Lanka is dire need of money so I have no isssue.

I would say that a better format could had been a direct Super 5 between the top 5 asian teams. No need to play Hong Kong for the sake of it.

Asia Cup can be marketted better, i believe its a very poorly marketed tournament and has no value. Change the trophy, give it some historical context to it.
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Good idea but i would include hong kong in it. Just have a league table like you said, each team play each other once. Top 2 advance to the finals
 
Sohaib said:
May sound bit pessimistic of me, but may be they won't play 3 times each other this time round.

Afghanistan vs India for the final? Anyone? :P
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That is true.

But that was probably ACC's plan - 3 India v Pakistan matches and make plenty of money.
 
Babeikh said:
Should have been a single round robin format with top 2 in final. As Saj says this format is purely to milk the Pak v India games. Terrible format to be honest.
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Ideally, that would seem a good format but the games involving the 6th side (Hong Kong in this case) will be boring affairs. And there would be 5 of them.

Plus with the current two group format, there's always an added excitement of surprise knockout of a big side. Here, SL or Ban will be eliminated in a few days, and all HK needs to do is fluke a solitary win against Pakistan (easier said than done) and bam...they're through and pak are out.
 
I am not a fan of this format. Super Four seems unnecessary.

I think they should have had 2 groups, semi-final stage, and final.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Asia Cup is an irrelevant tournament. Just an excuse to play as many India-Pakistan matches as possible .
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Ok so this is also an irrelevant tournament for you? Surely you won't take a u-turn again when India lifts the asia cup trophy lol? Also I think it will be easier for you to tell what is relevant for you instead. My first guess is IPL. :inti
 
If SL get to pre-2014 level and Bangladesh play like they did from 2015-2019 in sc conditons and the way Afghan has improved, won’t be surprised if Asia cup ends up being a premier tournament rivaling the WC
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Ok so this is also an irrelevant tournament for you? Surely you won't take a u-turn again when India lifts the asia cup trophy lol? Also I think it will be easier for you to tell what is relevant for you instead. My first guess is IPL. :inti
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Your guess is as wrong as ever. I barely watch the IPL. Asia Cup is irrelevant because nobody tunes in to watch unless it involves 2 of India/PAK/BD.

The only reason they stage the Asia Cup is to have India -Pakistan matches. It is an overhyped bilateral series . :srini
 
It’s a brilliant tournament . Essentially there is only one dead rubber match and that’s the Hong Kong game for either side . The other group is going down to the wire and the super 4s anything can happen .

What’s there to complain about !
 
It's brilliant take hong Kong out the rivalries level on what you get at football.

I'm also happy its t20 format since its much faster paced and quicker unlike the 50 over which drags on too long and gets pretty boring in the middle overs.
The t20 allows you to remain on edge and into the game throughout .
Done and dusted in 3 hours.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Your guess is as wrong as ever. I barely watch the IPL. Asia Cup is irrelevant because nobody tunes in to watch unless it involves 2 of India/PAK/BD.

The only reason they stage the Asia Cup is to have India -Pakistan matches. It is an overhyped bilateral series . :srini
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Wrong the bengalis and afghan crowds have been brilliant and they also have millions of fans

Afghanistan in terms of raw talent is an upcoming cricketing nation I wouldn't even be surprised if they beat pakistan the fans rivalries is very passionate afghan fans can become hooligans in pak afghan clash this what cricket needs
 
mazkhan said:
Wrong the bengalis and afghan crowds have been brilliant and they also have millions of fans

Afghanistan in terms of raw talent is an upcoming cricketing nation I wouldn't even be surprised if they beat pakistan the fans rivalries is very passionate afghan fans can become hooligans in pak afghan clash this what cricket needs
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Those matches barely make any money for the broadcasters or the host board. Take India out of this tournament and it will barely have any importance.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Those matches barely make any money for the broadcasters or the host board. Take India out of this tournament and it will barely have any importance.
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Tbf Ind-Bang and Pak-Afg have been big games atmosphere and quality wise recently in big tournaments. SL usually has boring games so even their thriller games are overlooked.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Your guess is as wrong as ever. I barely watch the IPL. Asia Cup is irrelevant because nobody tunes in to watch unless it involves 2 of India/PAK/BD.

The only reason they stage the Asia Cup is to have India -Pakistan matches. It is an overhyped bilateral series . :srini
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You only think about India and Indian audience it seems. Other countries are also playing and their fans also watch their country's matches. You can't call every other tournament irrelevant or meaningless therefore it is better if you tell what is relevant. :inti
 
I like it, only time we get to play PCT, plus Afghans making it to next round is awesome for their fans, this is a top performance from them, cricket can become a happy place for Afghan kids when they play on streets.
 
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Teams like Hong Kong also get a chance to display their talent. How will they improve without playing against top class teams? :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Teams like Hong Kong also get a chance to display their talent. How will they improve without playing against top class teams? :inti
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HK, UAE, Oman etc it’s just Indian-Pakistanis playing there, it’s way better to fund Nepal as they do take it seriously and majority can play the game if they do well.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Teams like Hong Kong also get a chance to display their talent. How will they improve without playing against top class teams? :inti
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Hong Kong hasn't played badly here. The more they play against top sides, the better they will get. But some people who only think about indian audience call these tournaments irrelevant. :inti
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Your guess is as wrong as ever. I barely watch the IPL. Asia Cup is irrelevant because nobody tunes in to watch unless it involves 2 of India/PAK/BD.

The only reason they stage the Asia Cup is to have India -Pakistan matches. It is an overhyped bilateral series . :srini
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Agree . If India pulls out of tourney it will loose 65 percent viewership and money. They are hoping for Ind Pak 3 games .
 
Well hopefully in future like England ; India, Pak can also grab some good players from UAE,HK,Oman who are extraordinary, for that this tournament is awesome!
 
Mp812 said:
Agree . If India pulls out of tourney it will loose 65 percent viewership and money. They are hoping for Ind Pak 3 games .
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I have a strong feeling Afghanistan might knockout the possibility of third game between India and Pakistan.
 
Should be played in ODI format only. There's already too much t20 cricket.

2 pools don't make any sense. Should be every team play all others followed by a final like it was in 2014.
 
I like the ODI format more. Last couple of times, the ODI format was quite intense between IND/PAK/BD/SL. T20 format is meh ... It's not hard to predict which two teams will play the final.
 
Yeah i like it for sure. As most fans want to see Indo-Pak matches I see nothing wrong in giving us what we want. This is the final we all want too.

Pak seems to struggle against Rashid Khan who could be the spoilsport for us if and when we play Afghanistan. I much prefer longer tournaments to shorter ones because it gives all participating teams an equal chance of progression instead off getting knocked out after one bad match.
 
I don't get the hate for the Asia Cup. It's meant to be a celebration of cricket in the most cricket-mad continent. Although a gulf has developed between India and the rest - it still produces compelling cricket. The 2012 and 2014 editions had some crazy finishes.

I'm not a fan of this format though - I'd prefer a single round robin followed by semis and a final.
 
Markhor said:
I don't get the hate for the Asia Cup. It's meant to be a celebration of cricket in the most cricket-mad continent. Although a gulf has developed between India and the rest - it still produces compelling cricket. The 2012 and 2014 editions had some crazy finishes.

I'm not a fan of this format though - I'd prefer a single round robin followed by semis and a final.
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Yeah. I also prefer group stage, semi-final, and final.

No Super Four.
 
It should be T20

ODI is a dying a format.

However super 4 is redundant, they should have has semis and finals post group.
 
It is obvious that the whole format is designed to make IND and PAK play as many games as possible against each other. The round robin format in the super 4 is to ensure that - again IND or PAK are not hobbled by a single loss and are given an avenue to bounce back so that they meet again hopefully in the finals.

The emergence of Afghanistan as a serious contender in Asia has spiced up the Asia Cup. I am loving it.
 
I just hope for the ACC's sake that Pakistan don't lose to Hong Kong tomorrow or it will be a huge anti-climax for the organisers.
 
Also remember it’s only fun because it’s T20 format where the margin between teams is very less and anyone can have their day.

If this was a odi tournament like it traditionally is this would be boring as hell because of all the one sided games. There is a lot more gaps in the quality of the teams.

A T20 asia cup has immense potential though.
 
I kinda like the fact that India-Pakistan games are so rare, it really spices things up when they square off. Playing too many India-pak games in a meaningless tournament will just dilute the brouhaha.
 
Afghanistan playing Pakistan and India back to back . Unfair ?

Just saw the schedule of super 4 . Afghanistan will be playing Pakistan(most likely) on 7th sept and then 8th against India .
7th in Sharjah , 8th in Dubai . Isn’t it unfair for Afghanistan . What kind of scheduling is this .
 
Nothing unfair about this. It's only a T20. There used to be ODI's played back to back. In fact, it happened in the last Asia Cup as well.
 
Asif321 said:
Just saw the schedule of super 4 . Afghanistan will be playing Pakistan(most likely) on 7th sept and then 8th against India .
7th in Sharjah , 8th in Dubai . Isn’t it unfair for Afghanistan . What kind of scheduling is this .
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Bit unfair but not a big deal for a 20-20 game.

T20 leagues like t20 blast play semifinals and final on the same day.
 
I think if india and pak qualify for finals then organizers might decide to make it a best of 3 finals!
 
India-Pakistan matches are the main attraction.

In that sense, it's the ideal format.
 
After the group stage of the six-team tournament, the best four teams progress to the Super Four stage.

Instead of a normal semi-final phase, the teams progressing from the two groups play each other in another round robin phase. From there, the top two sides to go head-to-head in the tournament final. Points from the opening group stage do not carry over for the Super Four stage.

India have secured top spot in Group A, beating Pakistan in the final over in their encounter, before brushing aside a Hong Kong challenge. The second spot belongs to Pakistan after their dominant 155-run victory against Hong Kong on Friday.

Perhaps on a push to nab the No.1 spot on the MRF Tyres ICC T20I batting rankings, Suryakumar Yadav has made a thunderous start to the tournament, making his 86 runs across two knocks at a strike rate of 195.45.

At the other end watching his onslaught, Virat Kohli, who leads the tournament’s run tally among India batters with 94 runs, lauded his partner’s power.

"I've seen so many innings when we play in the IPL, or that being done to other teams, but this was my first experience of watching very closely.

“I was completely blown away.”

Over in Group B, Afghanistan have sprinted out of the blocks, accounting for both Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, winning by eight and seven wickets in respective matches.

Afghanistan's spinners have been at their usual best, though the emergence of fast bowler Fazalhaq Farooqi has added an extra dimension to the attack, taking three wickets at an economy of just 4.69. The side look to have turned a corner after their series defeat against Ireland and provide a case for mounting a serious tournament challenge.

Sri Lanka won the all-important meeting with Bangladesh to take the second Super Four spot in Group B, winning by two wickets in the final over of their chase.

It means a Sri Lanka-Afghanistan re-match begins the Super Four phase on September 3 in Sharjah, with India taking on Pakistan on September 4 in Dubai.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2775414
 
9 matches so far at the Asia Cup:

Team batting second has won 7 of them
The 2 matches that teams won batting first were both against Hong Kong
 
India's fate in the Asia Cup is now in Pakistan's hands.

If Pakistan beat Afghanistan tomorrow then India will be out of the tournament.
 
Saj said:
India's fate in the Asia Cup is now in Pakistan's hands.

If Pakistan beat Afghanistan tomorrow then India will be out of the tournament.
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India are out for me. I cant see Pak losing to both Lanka and Afg.

One group with the top 4 making semis would have been the best format.
 
Saj said:
India's fate in the Asia Cup is now in Pakistan's hands.

If Pakistan beat Afghanistan tomorrow then India will be out of the tournament.
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India's fate is already sealed. They can't score enough batting first. They can't bowl well enough to defend their average scores.
 
Saj said:
9 matches so far at the Asia Cup:

Team batting second has won 7 of them
The 2 matches that teams won batting first were both against Hong Kong
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If anyone can defend a total here, it's us. But we will need to put atleast 175 on board 1st.
 
For India to reach the final they need to:

Beat Afg by a huge margin
SL beat Pak
Afg beat Pak

Then it would be a SL v IND final.
 
Yes really enjoyable Asia cup this year which both teams went to the wire.
 
Great games so far but I feel should have been 50 overs . Odis is my favourite format, the perfect balance not too short with wild slogging and not too long and boring. They just need to put some more balance in for the bowlers
 
The moment the schedule and fixtures of Asia Cup 2022 were announced, many people had already made their minds that it was going to be an India-Pakistan final and that the fans will get to see the traditional rivals face off thrice in the competition. The Asian Cricket Council have had the format of Super Four for the last few editions in a bid to have India and Pakistan face three times, once each in group stage, Super Four and the final.

However, India and Pakistan have never taken on each other in the final of the Asia Cup since the tournament's first edition in 1984. To everyone's surprise the trend continued as India bowed out of the Asia Cup with losses against Pakistan and Sri Lanka and the latter went on to clinch their 6th title in the continental tournament.

After Sri Lanka suffered an 8-wicket loss to Afghanistan in the tournament opener, no one gave them a chance to even qualify for the final, let alone winning the whole thing. But a bunch of inspired men under a great captain defied all the odds as they won five matches in a row to end up with the trophy in their hands a couple of weeks later.

Following Sri Lanka's sixth Asia Cup win, Indian great Sunil Gavaskar said that the Islanders have given a nice tight slap to all those who couldn't see beyond India and Pakistan in the final of Asia Cup 2022. Gavaskar said that despite being the second-highest winners of Asia Cup after India, Sri Lanka still float under the radar and that might change after this season.

Speaking to India Today, Gavaskar said, "They were under the radar, weren’t they? (Sri Lanka). Because everything in the Asia Cup was about India and Pakistan.

"Everyone was talking about India-Pakistan, India-Pakistan and India-Pakistan as if these were the only two teams. And when you look at the fact that Sri Lanka has won this (Asia Cup) for the 6th time, that is second only to India, it does tell you that when you talk about prospects, you must not ignore Sri Lanka. And that’s a nice tight slap that Sri Lankans have given to all those who were trying to say it’s going to be an India vs Pakistan final," the former batter further said.

Timesnow
 
This edition was definitely more entertaining than 2016 t20 edition.

2018 ODI edition was extremely one sided and had only 2 close matches.

They should get rid of pools and just have all teams playing each other once and then final.
 
Considering that there are fewer or at most 10 cricket playing nations, every tournament with more than 5 teams involved should be designed such that each team plays everyone else in league games once.
The team with most points at league end phase plays 4th placed team in first sf and 2nd and 3rd placed team plays second sf.
Simple formula which ensures all teams get fair chance to play against weaker as well as strong teams.
 
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