Asia Cup 2025: India vs Pakistan | Match 06 | Dubai | September 14 | Pre-Match Discussion

[CricVet]

In less than a month, 8 pages without a ball being bowled for a tournamentthat that has virtually no viewership outside of subcontinent background, and yet Pak is a minnows level team in T20 per Modi cult (not sane Indians). Ind vs Aus rivalry trumps it (per Bhakts). Also, according to them, T20 is just a tamasha. Why such a burn? I would not waste my breath on Indians if the situation was reversed despite the rhetorical build up created by opposition for an intent to trigger. Their heart just can't sustain the size of their own ego.

 

[Usman Chadda]

In less than a month, 8 pages without a ball being bowled for a tournamentthat that has virtually no viewership outside of subcontinent background, and yet Pak is a minnows level team in T20 per Modi cult (not sane Indians). Ind vs Aus rivalry trumps it (per Bhakts). Also, according to them, T20 is just a tamasha. Why such a burn? I would not waste my breath on Indians if the situation was reversed despite the rhetorical build up created by opposition for an intent to trigger. Their heart just can't sustain the size of their own ego.

The team is really good, but the fans are beyond stupid and deserve something like Zimbabwe to support.

But maybe just as the team has exponentially gotten better, the quality of fans will also get better as years go by.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Don’t change goalposts now, you know what you said about the Indian team doing well

Anyway, you are missing the point and think your batsmen are divine entities that can disregard the conditions and score freely in the middle overs when there’s never been a precedent for that in Dubai.

You have to maximize your score in the powerplay in these conditions, then consolidate to set yourselves up for a big score at the end.

David warner middle over performance at Dubai 109 balls 185 runs 169.72 strike rate
Muhammad waseem (UAE) 189 balls 317 in middle overs at Dubai 167.72 strike rate
Kane williamson 129 balls 198 runs 153.48 strike rate
SKY 83 balls 122 runs 146.98 strike rate
KL Rahul 65 balls 95 runs 146.15 strike rate

Bar Warner/SKY others were not exactly "dashers".

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

In less than a month, 8 pages without a ball being bowled for a tournamentthat that has virtually no viewership outside of subcontinent background, and yet Pak is a minnows level team in T20 per Modi cult (not sane Indians). Ind vs Aus rivalry trumps it (per Bhakts). Also, according to them, T20 is just a tamasha. Why such a burn? I would not waste my breath on Indians if the situation was reversed despite the rhetorical build up created by opposition for an intent to trigger. Their heart just can't sustain the size of their own ego.

The funny thing is, people who claim they will boycott this match can't resist posting in the pre-match thread. Not sure how they will control themselves from watching it on TV and commenting in the actual match thread.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

 

[Rajdeep]

Obviously India.

Now answer my question. Are you going to boycott tomorrow? What's your prediction?

#DontBeAHypocrite #BeHonest

 

[Rajdeep]

He will say India , but in reality supporting Pakistan .

I could never understand how can someone bash India 24*7, defends Pakistan more than Pak posters but suddenly on match day support India?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

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You asked a question. I answered. Why are you chickening away from answering mine now? Are you going to boycott the match? #BeHonest

 

[Vikram1989]

I want India to bat first. Post a total and defend.

With 8 batsmen i think we should be able to score atleast 150.if the pitch is not changing like first match, we should win the match comfortably. We have to be careful in not over estimation of a par score and gift our wickets.As tomorrow match is less consequential than super 4, we should bat

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

@Rajdeep, what's your prediction for this match, other than boycotting it? Or are you planning to boycott the prediction too?

My predictions:
1. India will play against Pakistan tomorrow
2. @Rajdeep will post in the match thread
3. India will beat Pakistan

#HaiHimmat?

I could never understand how can someone bash India 24*7, defends Pakistan more than Pak posters but suddenly on match day support India?

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Even we don't get why people create multiple accounts here when they are already active with one.

Anyway, @Rajdeep is trying way too hard to dodge a simple question. You asked me a question, I answered it. Now it's your turn. Don't run away.

 

[jnaveen1980]

With 8 batsmen i think we should be able to score atleast 150.if the pitch is not changing like first match, we should win the match comfortably. We have to be careful in not over estimation of a par score and gift our wickets.

We did that at New york giving wickets to nothing balls. Ya.. in T20 things like that may happen. But all said and done enforcer role will be handled by Axar patel. He is one guy who can handle spinnners even on square turners. I still remember how he was striking at 70 making 74 when Lyon was wreaking havoc at Delhi square turner.

 

[TeymurBlake]

The fact that I need to say this but, it will not be the end of the world for whoever loses, regardless what the media says or troll fans will say.

India is a lot more formidable & settled, whereas Pakistan are trying to implement a new philosophy & structure to their game which will require time & potentially still the right players.

I do suspect India will win, but I think the game will be a lot closer than people think. However I don’t think Pakistan will go beyond semis, they don’t have enough form batters right now.

I think India will play Afghanistan in the final.

 

[jnaveen1980]

The fact that I need to say this but, it will not be the end of the world for whoever loses, regardless what the media says or troll fans will say.

India is a lot more formidable & settled, whereas Pakistan are trying to implement a new philosophy & structure to their game which will require time & potentially still the right players.

I do suspect India will win, but I think the game will be a lot closer than people think. However I don’t think Pakistan will go beyond semis, they don’t have enough form batters right now.

I think India will play Afghanistan in the final.

Reasonable take. Honestly this match is followed not for trolling. I never watched CPL until this season. 100 as well. End of England test series left a massive void. Fans wanted more of India. More of cricket. So they turned to many cricketing events including domestic. Fans just want to see India play. That's it. They are expected to win. SO no big deal there. If they lose no big deal either. This team is ready for next world cup. That's the end goal.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Unlike in ODIs in T20 just because you bowl 5 spinners teams are not going to play cautiously. They will find a way to target spinners and throw them off the line regardless of how conducive the surface is. This is T20. You just need 10 ball blitz. India has Tilak, Abhishek, Dube, Axar 4 lefties. 4 righties. They can throw spinners off the line easily.

Well Pakistan have variety in their bowling attack too if they play Sufiyan and Abrar. India are obviously heavy favorites, but you are making it sound like Pakistan is some kind of minnow bowling attack who are just there to make up the numbers. I think it will be an interesting contest between India's batting and Pakistan's spinners and I would like to see how many India can score on this pitch.

 

[RKhan_Cricket]

Kohli who is certifiably one of the weakest against spin in hit late years made 126 in 63 balls against Afghanistan at Dubai lol You sound like they are playing on moon. India as a unit did very well everywhere.

If I am correct virat hit that century against India sorry ahm I mean Afghanistan.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Not sure what people gain from these kinds of embarrassing stunts. Makes you look like a clown more than anything else.

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And this is one step ahead

And this is how @Rajdeep and boycott gang will watch the match tomorrow.

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[jnaveen1980]

Well Pakistan have variety in their bowling attack too if they play Sufiyan and Abrar. India are obviously heavy favorites, but you are making it sound like Pakistan is some kind of minnow bowling attack who are just there to make up the numbers.

They played against every single team like that. Australia, SA, England.. why do you think they will treat pakistan any differently unless you think Pakistan is superior to them.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

And this is one step ahead

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This is just brilliant

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

They played against every single team like that. Australia, SA, England.. why do you think they will treat pakistan any differently unless you think Pakistan is superior to them.

Because this is not a flat road in Hyderabad.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Because this is not a flat road in Hyderabad.

So you say they scored 283/1 against SA at Hyderbada? Not wanderers?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

The team is really good, but the fans are beyond stupid and deserve something like Zimbabwe to support.

But maybe just as the team has exponentially gotten better, the quality of fans will also get better as years go by.

There is no guarantee. The Indian team has improved, but the quality of fans keeps sinking. They are allergic to criticism and as soft as cotton.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

So you say they scored 283/1 against SA at Hyderbada? Not wanderers?

Wanderers generally offers fairly flat pitches for T20s too. 283 is still a remarkable total but if you look at recent totals at that ground 190-200 is about par on that pitch

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

@jnaveen1980 I feel like you're confusing the issue. I'm not saying India won't steamroll Pakistan tomorrow. They very likely may. I'm not even saying that India isn't the best and most dominant T20 team in the world right now.

But Pakistan can't think of India as this massive juggernaut if they want to win. They have to back their strengths and look at the conditions, rather than thinking too much about which Indian players are better players of pace or spin. Every team looks at match-ups but you can't get hung-up about that kind of stuff because ultimately you have to play good cricket to win.

 

[Rajdeep]

You asked a question. I answered. Why are you chickening away from answering mine now? Are you going to boycott the match? #BeHonest

Brother....I am not running away from anything. Who do you think I am? @mominsaigol ??

I am outside and cant type long response. However briefly to answer your questions:

1. I will definitely boycott this game. I mean I am screaming about it for last 2 months...isnt it? Wonder why are you even asking it?

2. I have created an entire spoiler thread with my prediction. Not sure why you asking me to predict again? Another silly question.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Wanderers generally offers fairly flat pitches for T20s too. 283 is still a remarkable total but if you look at recent totals at that ground 190-200 is about par on that pitch

I am not saying India will go at 12 an over here. Jeez. In T20 history only 19 times teams have done that against regular nations. 6 by India. 3 by current Indian team in the last 2 years. Their approach has paid them dividends. They have won more matches than they lost. There was one match where India collapsed upfront. They put up a total of 124. Almost won it when India had SA at 86/7. Varun took 5 for 17. But seamers cost India the game. They don't mind occasional loss due to this approach. Isn't exactly what Pakistan is trying to copy?

 

[jnaveen1980]

@jnaveen1980 I feel like you're confusing the issue. I'm not saying India won't steamroll Pakistan tomorrow. They very likely may. I'm not even saying that India isn't the best and most dominant T20 team in the world right now.

But Pakistan can't think of India as this massive juggernaut if they want to win. They have to back their strengths and look at the conditions, rather than thinking too much about which Indian players are better players of pace or spin. Every team looks at match-ups but you can't get hung-up about that kind of stuff because ultimately you have to play good cricket to win.

Pakistan has been the under dog team against India for more than a decade. They have won a few in between thanks to some early wickets upfront. This meet is going to be no different. Pakistan has a great opportunity to test themselves against a very solid side and may even pull off an upset. Same way If India beats Pakistan you won't see me going up and down. That is a different topic altogether. As far as match up goes who will bowl death overs if you go with 1.5 seamer? Spinners? What if one of your main spinner leaks runs. It is a well known fact IPL team completely stops using spinners moment Dube arrives at the crease. They exclusively use seamers against him.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Brother....I am not running away from anything. Who do you think I am? @mominsaigol ??

I am outside and cant type long response. However briefly to answer your questions:

1. I will definitely boycott this game. I mean I am screaming about it for last 2 months...isnt it? Wonder why are you even asking it?

2. I have created an entire spoiler thread with my prediction. Not sure why you asking me to predict again? Another silly question.

You are boycotting the match yet making a spoiler thread, and then you call my questions silly? Do you even know what 'boycott' means?

#AjeebTypeKaBoycott

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Pakistan has been the under dog team against India for more than a decade. They have won a few in between thanks to some early wickets upfront. This meet is going to be no different. Pakistan has a great opportunity to test themselves against a very solid side and may even pull off an upset. Same way If India beats Pakistan you won't see me going up and down. That is a different topic altogether. As far as match up goes who will bowl death overs if you go with 1.5 seamer? Spinners? What if one of your main spinner leaks runs. It is a well known fact IPL team completely stops using spinners moment Dube arrives at the crease. They exclusively use seamers against him.

They will have to bank on Faheem Ashraf and Shaheen to do the job. If the spinners bowl well and get wickets you wouldn't be in a position where you would worry that much about the death. Most games are won in the middle-overs. Playing someone like Haris Rauf exclusively for his death-bowling does not make much sense, because he can't bowl in the powerplay and there is barely any pace or bounce in this Dubai wicket for him to be that effective. From Pakistan's POV playing him over Sufiyan would be a defensive move. Btw if you wanna talk about match-ups Sufiyan has gotten Abhishek out twice in the Emerging Asia Cup.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I am not saying India will go at 12 an over here. Jeez. In T20 history only 19 times teams have done that against regular nations. 6 by India. 3 by current Indian team in the last 2 years. Their approach has paid them dividends. They have won more matches than they lost. There was one match where India collapsed upfront. They put up a total of 124. Almost won it when India had SA at 86/7. Varun took 5 for 17. But seamers cost India the game. They don't mind occasional loss due to this approach. Isn't exactly what Pakistan is trying to copy?

Not sure what your point is...

 

[jnaveen1980]

They will have to bank on Faheem Ashraf and Shaheen to do the job. If the spinners bowl well and get wickets you wouldn't be in a position where you would worry that much about the death. Most games are won in the middle-overs. Playing someone like Haris Rauf exclusively for his death-bowling does not make much sense, because he can't bowl in the powerplay and there is barely any pace or bounce in this Dubai wicket for him to be that effective. From Pakistan's POV playing him over Sufiyan would be a defensive move. Btw if you wanna talk about match-ups Sufiyan has gotten Abhishek out twice in the Emerging Asia Cup.

Abhishek has gotten out to a lot of bowlers in IPL as well. We can't call it a match up. He would give chance to some bowlers all the time. He is not the only guy in the team. There are 8 batsmen. Some of them are powerful against spin. UAE batsmen whacked him all over right?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Not sure what your point is...

Point is India will keep going. Just beacuse it is dubai pitch they won't be playing tuk tuk cricket. I am sure Pakistan won't do either. Isn't that the new mantra pakistan trying to embrace?

 

[RKhan_Cricket]

After seeing the Asia Cup buzz and the whole ticket fiasco on X, I’m almost 90% convinced India might just pull out tomorrow last minute. If they still play, the crowd could turn on them forever — maybe they won’t risk it.
Even the players, after reading all those comments and reactions, might not risk their careers — they could collectively tell BCCI they don’t want to play under these circumstances.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Point is India will keep going. Just beacuse it is dubai pitch they won't be playing tuk tuk cricket. I am sure Pakistan won't do either. Isn't that the new mantra pakistan trying to embrace?

Just because you want to play a certain way doesn't mean it will pan out that way too. If you go out and try to whack every ball and lose 4 wickets in the process, will you keep whacking till you lose all 10 or will you reassess the total you were aiming for and try to achieve something less but competitive? I know India will play attacking cricket and try to impose their will on the game, and I hope Pakistan play attacking cricket too. But ultimately the aim is to win the match not blast your way to 120 all out in 12 overs.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Just because you want to play a certain way doesn't mean it will pan out that way too. If you go out and try to whack every ball and lose 4 wickets in the process, will you keep whacking till you lose all 10 or will you reassess the total you were aiming for and try to achieve something less but competitive? I know India will play attacking cricket and try to impose their will on the game, and I hope Pakistan play attacking cricket too. But ultimately the aim is to win the match not blast your way to 120 all out in 12 overs.

In ICC tournaments you won't be getting square turners. It will be beautiful decks. All the teams in the world are gearing towards this strategy (an Englidh ODI batting approach post 2015 world cup) with that assumption. Nobody builds their T20 team for "turning tracks" "seaming tracks". Everyone prepares their team for flat tracks. If you get a tricky track try to adapt. Not abandon the fundamental philosophy. That defeats the purpose. Sometimes when you bat first you try to go hard and half way through the match you realize this is not that kind of track. Things like that can happen. That should not force you to backtrack on the general strategy. It will work more often than not.

 

[jnaveen1980]

After seeing the Asia Cup buzz and the whole ticket fiasco on X, I’m almost 90% convinced India might just pull out tomorrow last minute. If they still play, the crowd could turn on them forever — maybe they won’t risk it.
Even the players, after reading all those comments and reactions, might not risk their careers — they could collectively tell BCCI they don’t want to play under these circumstances.

They won't pull out because India is technically the host of the Asia cup.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

I see a lot of history based projections and wishes. Add this to that list.

Last 5 yeasr India has not lost a single game that involved Shivam Dube. Played 23 won 22 one no result.

Wow...what a stat...had you asked this as a quiz question 10/10 guys/indian fans would hav never guessed

Well- looks like apna Shivam bhai is a good luck charm...and long may the streak continue....

- Is this some kind of record? - if i am not mistaken - Adam gilly won the first 13-14 tests of his career till Calcutta 2001 when he got a pair ...

 

[Mesozoic]

no chance , india will not loose any game's in Asia cup

It's T20 and that too in the UAE where conditions usually are volatile.

Anywhere else , India would have blasted away all these teams.