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Afghanistan to over take Pakistan in 3 years

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According to one poster

"afghanistan just gave a fought, 3 years from now they would be beating pakistan, than what are you gonna do?" :misbah

Afghans have risen in world cricket quicker than any other team from where they started but they have a long way to go.

They dont have a fast bowler or a batsmen who can win the game single handedly. Their success has been down to their spinners who over time will be worked out better.

There is no way Afghans will be a bigger team in tests,ODI or even T20 3 years.

Does anyone feel they will rise in this time to be a better all round team than Pakistan?
 
LMAO. Afghan gonna win Asia Cup 2020 :yk

Nahh but in all seriousness. Afghanistan have a long way to go to overtake Pakistan in cricket.
 
Pak would smash Afghans in ODI series. Afghan batting is very weak, they don't have any flexibility nor experience. They're also overdependent on Rashid and Mujeeb. When Rashid goes out of form Afghanistan will have a very hard time.
 
No. And if we started a thread for every ridiculous statement, PP would be crashing left and right.
 
LOL no way, Pakistan is a historical cricket powerhouse. Maybe in 20 years if (big 'if' now that ex cricket captain Imran Khan has taken charge as PM) PCB goes the way of the Pakistani Hockey or Squash Federations, that too only in T20 and ODI, will take even longer in test cricket. I have seen Sri Lankan cricket take the world by storm in the 90s but that was after 15-20 years of sweat and toil and in tests it took them even longer to become a respectable team. Present Afghanistan is no way near as talented as 80s Sri Lanka.
 
10 years. Afghanistan will be recognized non minnow team.

I am sure they will learn batting and they already have better fast bowlers then what we saw in Asia cup, but they are injured.

I think they are probably were SL was in 1990-1992 right now.

The key for Afghanistan is to constantly try and improve and find better players.
 
No. And if we started a thread for every ridiculous statement, PP would be crashing left and right.

Maybe others agree with the statement?

Either way the point is are Afghanistan improving so much, so quickly they will become the no.1 or no.2 team in Asia in 3 years?

Do they have youngsters coming through or is their life in India going to help them rise even quicker.

Pakistan should offer a full series, 3 tests, 3 odis and 3 T20s.
 
I think it’s going to take 2 years 9 months 8 days 15 hours
 
I loved the aggressive passionate way they bat and play their cricket. Reminded me of Pakistan in the 80's and 90's.
 
Maybe others agree with the statement?

Either way the point is are Afghanistan improving so much, so quickly they will become the no.1 or no.2 team in Asia in 3 years?

Do they have youngsters coming through or is their life in India going to help them rise even quicker.

Pakistan should offer a full series, 3 tests, 3 odis and 3 T20s.

Why do you open a thread based on someone making a stupid statement?
 
I loved the aggressive passionate way they bat and play their cricket. Reminded me of Pakistan in the 80's and 90's.

Are you saying they are at the level of Pakistani teams from those two decades? Arguably the two best decades in Pakistan history?
[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] your thoughts on the 3 years statement please? :)
 
Why do you open a thread based on someone making a stupid statement?

See post 8.

Afghanistan have good backing from India, they are based in India too. I and you may feel its silly but there are many factors in play here which could help them rise above Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and maybe another team from Asia. It's worth a discussion to see how quickly people feel they will take over such nations inc Pakistan.
 
Beating Pakistan in 3 years isn't a big deal, this is sport and teams beat each other. [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] didn't say they'll start rolling Pakistan over or become a better team than Pakistan overall. Heck, they could've beaten us two days ago, the game was close. They are fighters and a pretty good side, their rise has been nothing short of astonishing.
 
10 years. Afghanistan will be recognized non minnow team.

I am sure they will learn batting and they already have better fast bowlers then what we saw in Asia cup, but they are injured.

I think they are probably were SL was in 1990-1992 right now.

The key for Afghanistan is to constantly try and improve and find better players.

No, they beat Sri Lanka and almost beat Pakistan and Bangladesh, so they're probably at the same place Sri Lanka are in 2018;
 
Beating Pakistan in 3 years isn't a big deal, this is sport and teams beat each other. [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] didn't say they'll start rolling Pakistan over or become a better team than Pakistan overall. Heck, they could've beaten us two days ago, the game was close. They are fighters and a pretty good side, their rise has been nothing short of astonishing.

It's pretty clear the poster implied Afghanistan would be beating Pakistan regularly in 3 years,therefore overtaking Pakistan. I would just like to know the reasoning behind it. As I wrote, do they have some great talents coming through? Is their development a lot quicker with Indian backing ? Etc
 
See post 8.

Afghanistan have good backing from India, they are based in India too. I and you may feel its silly but there are many factors in play here which could help them rise above Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and maybe another team from Asia. It's worth a discussion to see how quickly people feel they will take over such nations inc Pakistan.

It's very overrated when people say quoting Rashid Latif from game on" Humne inka cricket kara kiya hai" And when people claim India helped them and are helping them...

The main rise is because Afghans are passionate about cricket and they have actually found some talented players. They work hard and try to improve all the time. Yes Rashid and Mujeeb have benefited from playing IPL, but they were not picked so their game could improve or help Afghanistan cricket. They were picked because the franchise wanted to win the IPL.

Other then that Afghanistan have had a few camps in India where they trained. I am sure they are not getting the venues for free, but are paying for it. They moved to India because it was cheaper compared to Dubai.

I don't see how BCCI have helped them in other ways? They only played 1 test against them and that's it.

However the Afghanistan PRemier League happening will help Afghanistan cricket. The youngster get's to play with International cricketers and if any of them has talent they will be selected in national team as their will be pressure from fans.
 
Every cricket team has got a player who acts as the unique selling point of his team. A player who possesses skills or plays in a manner which is quite different from the rest of the squad. Such players have an influence to the extent that the team management tries to find more of those type of players in domestic cricket and fast track them to the international team.

In recent times, Pakistan had Afridi, who's power hitting was quite famous, India had Tendulkar who's batting itself was a treat to watch and Sri Lanka had Muralitharan.

Each of these players had their influence as mentioned above. Pakistan tried to search for hitters like Afridi, while India tried to look for batsmen like Tendulkar and Sri lanka would unleash mystery spinners every now and then.

Today Afghanistan has also got its poster boy, and that poster boy is Rashid Khan. His spin attack has made the Afghanistan Cricket Board change its whole approach, as with Rashid the team has selected Mujeeb Ur Rehman, Zahir Khan and Shrafudin Ashraf.

Everyone knows about Afghanistan cricket today because of Rashid Khan. The guy has represented Afghanistan everywhere that all we know today about Afghanistan cricket is that its a spin dominated team.

However, before Rashid Khan became the poster boy of afghan cricket, there was another lad who was the face of this Afghan Cricket team.

In your opening post you have mentioned they dont have any fast bowler who could win them matches. You are very wrong bro.

5 years ago, Hamid Hassan was the face of Afghan Cricket. A guy swinging the ball both ways in associate/affiliate cricket was very rare and yet he existed and was from Afghanistan. He was only 22 years old when he highly rated by foreign coaches back in the early 2000s. By 2010 he was demolishing teams and was given a spot in the MCC team along with Mohammad Nabi.

He was one of the earliest Afghani players to land himself a sponsorship deals.

And if you are going to say that Hamid was a minnow basher, remember when he first time faced South africa in a t20 match, he took 3 wickets.

When Hamid had gained a super star status, more pacers developed in afghanistan. There was Daulat Zadran and Izatullah; and yet when Afghanistan made their Test Debut, they had a brand new face in the name of Wafadar leading the attack.

Just 10 years ago, the Afghani bowling attack had the likes of Hasti Gul and Khaliq Dad Noori.

My point is, do not doubt the skills of Afghani players. Just few years ago this team was different.

10 years ago this team under the coaching of Taj Malik, had become famous for being hitters. Taj Malik himself during an interview said that the style of Afghani players is to play aggressive and go for shots.

5 years ago, this team's main bowling attack was made up of pacers like Dawlat Zadran, Izatullah, Yamid Ahmadzai, Hamid Hassan and Shapoor Zadran.

Today this team's main attack is spin bowling and plus the likes of Hashmatullah, Rehmat Shah and Asghar Afghan bat at a strike rate of 70, making sure that their team plays the whole 50 overs while achieving the par score of 250 runs.

So yes this team has achieved alot in just little time. Thus, based on history, you shouldn't doubt if this team ends up defeating Pakistan or any major country in 3 years time from now.

Hasti Gul use to bowl for this team, and yet we saw Wafadar open the Test attack.

The talent is coming, and the team is improving day by day
 
No play us outside Asia we will mince Afghanistan. We have mental issues when we play India otherwise we are decent.
 
Every cricket team has got a player who acts as the unique selling point of his team. A player who possesses skills or plays in a manner which is quite different from the rest of the squad. Such players have an influence to the extent that the team management tries to find more of those type of players in domestic cricket and fast track them to the international team.

In recent times, Pakistan had Afridi, who's power hitting was quite famous, India had Tendulkar who's batting itself was a treat to watch and Sri Lanka had Muralitharan.

Each of these players had their influence as mentioned above. Pakistan tried to search for hitters like Afridi, while India tried to look for batsmen like Tendulkar and Sri lanka would unleash mystery spinners every now and then.

Today Afghanistan has also got its poster boy, and that poster boy is Rashid Khan. His spin attack has made the Afghanistan Cricket Board change its whole approach, as with Rashid the team has selected Mujeeb Ur Rehman, Zahir Khan and Shrafudin Ashraf.

Everyone knows about Afghanistan cricket today because of Rashid Khan. The guy has represented Afghanistan everywhere that all we know today about Afghanistan cricket is that its a spin dominated team.

However, before Rashid Khan became the poster boy of afghan cricket, there was another lad who was the face of this Afghan Cricket team.

In your opening post you have mentioned they dont have any fast bowler who could win them matches. You are very wrong bro.

5 years ago, Hamid Hassan was the face of Afghan Cricket. A guy swinging the ball both ways in associate/affiliate cricket was very rare and yet he existed and was from Afghanistan. He was only 22 years old when he highly rated by foreign coaches back in the early 2000s. By 2010 he was demolishing teams and was given a spot in the MCC team along with Mohammad Nabi.

He was one of the earliest Afghani players to land himself a sponsorship deals.

And if you are going to say that Hamid was a minnow basher, remember when he first time faced South africa in a t20 match, he took 3 wickets.

When Hamid had gained a super star status, more pacers developed in afghanistan. There was Daulat Zadran and Izatullah; and yet when Afghanistan made their Test Debut, they had a brand new face in the name of Wafadar leading the attack.

Just 10 years ago, the Afghani bowling attack had the likes of Hasti Gul and Khaliq Dad Noori.

My point is, do not doubt the skills of Afghani players. Just few years ago this team was different.

10 years ago this team under the coaching of Taj Malik, had become famous for being hitters. Taj Malik himself during an interview said that the style of Afghani players is to play aggressive and go for shots.

5 years ago, this team's main bowling attack was made up of pacers like Dawlat Zadran, Izatullah, Yamid Ahmadzai, Hamid Hassan and Shapoor Zadran.

Today this team's main attack is spin bowling and plus the likes of Hashmatullah, Rehmat Shah and Asghar Afghan bat at a strike rate of 70, making sure that their team plays the whole 50 overs while achieving the par score of 250 runs.

So yes this team has achieved alot in just little time. Thus, based on history, you shouldn't doubt if this team ends up defeating Pakistan or any major country in 3 years time from now.

Hasti Gul use to bowl for this team, and yet we saw Wafadar open the Test attack.

The talent is coming, and the team is improving day by day

Thanks for the post.

I did rate Hamid, where has he gone now? The pacers we have seen in this tournament are very poor so where is the pace attack?

The batting did ok to get to 250 but imo they are not dynamic enough to attack teams in the middle of the innings which is where they seem to lose ground.

The under 19 team has done well too but who are the rising stars? The kids who will be future greats of Afghan cricket? Pakistan has an abundance of young talent, not saying they will be all successful but they are good players.
 
They have a plethora of fast bowlers at their disposal. Unfortunately Aftab Alam is the brother of one of the selection committee members (Hasti Gul Abed) and one of the original founders of Afghan cricket( Taj Malik)
Asghar is a long time friend of theirs.

Dawlat Zadran, Abdullah Adil, Fareed Ahmad, Yamin Ahmadzai, Sayed Shirzad, Hamid Hasan are just a few names that come to mind when it comes to their pace battery.
 
Thanks for the post.

I did rate Hamid, where has he gone now? The pacers we have seen in this tournament are very poor so where is the pace attack?

The batting did ok to get to 250 but imo they are not dynamic enough to attack teams in the middle of the innings which is where they seem to lose ground.

The under 19 team has done well too but who are the rising stars? The kids who will be future greats of Afghan cricket? Pakistan has an abundance of young talent, not saying they will be all successful but they are good players.


Injured himself very badly in the Associate XI match vs England, dislocated knee, was hanging outside his flesh. His knee has permanently given way. Plays the odd time but has lost a lot of pace, can still bowl Early to Mid 140KPH but no longer the same bowler
 
It all depends on their First Class system.

Majority of Afghan players have grown up playing in Pakistan.

Hamid Hassan was given his chance in FC cricket by Pakistan costums team.
Dawlat Zadran the other 90 mph bowler is currently playing tape ball cricket in Pakistan.
 
Afghanistan has done very well in their limited time in world cricket, but saying they'll surpass Pakistan in the coming years is a joke. They should first look to become the level of Sri Lanka or West Indies (Including tests)
 
Injured himself very badly in the Associate XI match vs England, dislocated knee, was hanging outside his flesh. His knee has permanently given way. Plays the odd time but has lost a lot of pace, can still bowl Early to Mid 140KPH but no longer the same bowler

Thanks, a real shame he was very talented. Wish him the best for the future.
 
They shouldn't aim to surpass individual teams. They should aim to beat consistent in conditions that are favourable to them and then look to compete away from home.
 
Lol. Will take them good 20 years before they even think of beating Pakistan in a test series. Remember this current Pakistan team is our weakest is our 70 year history, and yet we are still winning trophies and beating top teams. Watch the space, we will only get better and better and get back to our best.
 
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Afghanistan are getting carried away here. Similarly just coz Hong Kong gave India a big fright doesn't mean they'll be taking over from them in a few years!:)):)):))
 
I see teams like Scotland and Ireland developing in the next few years.
 
I dont really like it when a small team does well and all of a sudden crazy fans starts throwing around assumptions like this. Not only does this raise the expectation of a team to no tomorrow, it also receives too much abuse when they don't do well. Considering AFG is still in the developpement mode VS PAK has years of rich cricket history, don't hold on to this kind of assumptions. However, they have improved leaps and bound than what anyone expected. In the next couple of years, they will become what BD has become recently and SL did under Arjuna. After that, new super stars needs to show up and take the team forward.
 
Where will they get elite batters from? To overtake anything you need top tier batsmen, for both Tests (especially tests) and ODIs (for consistency). Try not to get bowled out twice in a test match in less than a day first.
 
Their rise in ODIs has been meteoric based on their spin attack. Afghanistan have been the most impressive team this Asia Cup and they seem to have a bright future in ODIs and T20's. They will never be a good test team though. That thrashing within 2 days was thoroughly expected and was the worst debut ever. However, in the World Cup next year , if they get a couple of favourable pitches, I expect them to shock a team that is not SL/WI/BD. I have a feeling that it's gonna be South Africa.
 
3 years no in 10 years yes it is a possiblity depends on Pakistan cricket moving forward or backwards rather than Afghanistan which I feel will keep improving. Will be interesting to see how they do in the world cup in England.
 
I loved the aggressive passionate way they bat and play their cricket. Reminded me of Pakistan in the 80's and 90's.

Like tuk tukking for 45 overs vs BANGLA and then chocke at the end? Away from ASIA or on quicker pitches they will fall apart.

PP doesnt take the cake it takes the whole kitchen when it comes to over the top statements.
 
They will beat us in an odd match or two.

They're a significantly improved side and have impressed everyone.

However, to continue that gradual improvement, they'll need a steady supply of excellent first class cricketers. They don't yet have that system.

Some of their players have experience of Pakistan's first class and domestic cricket where they were groomed. But that needs to transition into their own domestic setup, a with a proper structure.

Then they will be at the position to first match the bigger Test teams.

So, no, they will not overtake any top 5 Test nations in the next three years. But assuming they continue to improve and develop first class domestic players, they can reach that level in about 10 years.
 
In ODIs/T20s it might be possible in 5-7 years time. Anyone who was watched the Afg vs Pak game in the recent U19 WC would have seen the quality of their young players especially the bowlers.
 
I see a 1996 Sri Lanka team in this Afghanistan. When is the next sub continent WC , They will be real threat I believe
 
Pakistan just got humiliated twice by India and almost by Afghanistan, yet we are having a laugh at Afghanistan??

I think we should all be discussing Pakistan here and the major failure
 
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