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Afghanistan is losing heavily to an Indian side which is missing its 2-3 big stars. Do you think ICC could have waited before giving them the test status? Same mistake was made with Bangladesh.
 
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Afghanistan is losing heavily to an Indian side which is missing its 2-3 big stars. Do you think ICC could have waited before giving them the test status? Same mistake was made with Bangladesh.

You would have said the same about Ireland, had they toured India for their first match on such tracks or Pakistan in UAE.
 
Afghanistan has a non existent FC structure and their biggest ever star (Nabi) used to play in Pakistani FC tournaments until as recent as 2014. I think he represented HBL

The players getting hammered right now basically are cricketers assembled together by a lack cluster board who does nothing but Agenda driven nonsense on a daily basis.

Ireland on the other hand have almost all their players playing in county games for decades now and some of them are proper county stars while Ireland too have a very good structure of their own - It is not even funny to compare (based on FC structure) these two teams!
 
They are good enough for T20 only.They are even playing this test as a T20 match,no singles...just 6,4,out.Ireland are way better.They showed temperament and patience in their 1st test which is the key in a Test match.
Ireland were in it till the 5th day.If India had not batted first,the Test match would have been over on day1 only.
 
They are good enough for T20 only.They are even playing this test as a T20 match,no singles...just 6,4,out.Ireland are way better.They showed temperament and patience in their 1st test which is the key in a Test match.
Ireland were in it till the 5th day.If India had not batted first,the Test match would have been over on day1 only.

Ireland was playing in home conditions but there attitude is much better. This Afghan team is full hacks. They cant last more then 20 overs. Hitting every single ball.

Are they planning to play more tests this year?
 
Afghanistan only know how to be boastful about themselves. Good to see how India put them in their shoes.
 
This is first test match for Afghanistan. People here need to relax. And it's against the nr. 1 team in their own conditions.

Ireland is a good team as well.

Give Afghanistan some time.
 
i think they r good for T20 and ODI. Not good enough for Tests.
Ireland and Scotland would be better for tests as they play first class in county england.
 
This is first test match for Afghanistan. People here need to relax. And it's against the nr. 1 team in their own conditions.

Ireland is a good team as well.

Give Afghanistan some time.

I wish Afghanistan good luck for future games and want them to do well. There are only 6-7 competitive test teams and I feel that everyone wants more competition. Question however is whether you genuinely feel ICC could have waited in this case? Going by the gameplay I think there is a long way for Afghanistan to be competitive in this format.
 
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Afghanistan has a non existent FC structure and their biggest ever star (Nabi) used to play in Pakistani FC tournaments until as recent as 2014. I think he represented HBL

The players getting hammered right now basically are cricketers assembled together by a lack cluster board who does nothing but Agenda driven nonsense on a daily basis.

Ireland on the other hand have almost all their players playing in county games for decades now and some of them are proper county stars while Ireland too have a very good structure of their own - It is not even funny to compare (based on FC structure) these two teams!

Which Irish players play county cricket?

Afghanistan does have an FC cricket competition.

It has been running since 2014.
 
I wish Afghanistan good luck for future games and want them to do well. There are only 6-7 competitive test teams and I feel that everyone wants more competition. Question however is whether you genuinely feel ICC could have waited in this case? Going by the gameplay I think there is a long way for Afghanistan to be competitive in this format.

Afghanistan now know what test competition reguires. That's the advantage of being annihalated in first ga,e
 
Certainly. But, Ireland deserve it.

Afghanistan, looks like they just want their name with Test sides.

I won't blame Afghanistan CB. Rather, the brainless ICC, who just works on some suggestions, rather than analysing before making a proper decision.


I don't see Afghanistan playing any test until next two years. Even if they do, it won't be much different than this. At max, it might enter it's third day.
 
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A lot of present teams have got almost same amount of spanking in test vs India in India.
 
Not having skill is acceptable. But not having the patience and batting like the way Afghanistan did is not excusable.

Ireland will be a miles better test side than Afghanistan. Not using their brains at all.
 
Yes. They were impatient with Bangladesh as well. Unless the team proves they have strong first class domestic structure they should not be given Test status.
 
Which Irish players play county cricket?

Afghanistan does have an FC cricket competition.

It has been running since 2014.

Its laughable to compare Afghanistan and Ireland in terms of test cricket. At the moment Ireland is miles ahead of Afghanistan.

Boyd Rankin
Tim Murtagh
Paul Strirling
Ed Joyce
William Porterfield
Kevin Obrein
Neil Obrein
Gary Wilson
Andrew Bilbirine

Theses are the ones who played against Pakistan and play county cricket and have tons of county experince, Murtagh and Rankin have over 1000 county wickets between them.

Comparing Afghanistan and Ireland is a joke. Most experineced player of Afghanistan has played around 30 something first class matches and thats mostly in the standard of Afghani first class.
 
Yes. They were impatient with Bangladesh as well. Unless the team proves they have strong first class domestic structure they should not be given Test status.

Biggest struggle for Bangladesh has been that they are yet to produce test quality pacer after alomost 2 decades as test nation, atleast Ireland and Afghanistan to some extent have shown glimpses of hope in that department.
 
Tests are dying out anyway. In the future only three or four countries will even bother with Test cricket. Afghans should have focused on limited-overs cricket. Test cricket will only serve as a distraction and prevent them from reaching their full potential in the shorter formats.
 
It's a damned if you do situation for ICC.
I remember PPers here criticizing ICC officials for not giving full attention to associates and taking initiatives to expand the game further and that they were only content with filling up their pockets. This was around 4-5 years ago when both Ireland and Afghanistan were on rise and there were demands of granting them test status on this very forum from a broad set of fans.
Eventually ICC obliged and now we have fans complaining and questioning the decision. Make up your mind first.
 
People here are being too harsh on Afghanistan. Playing India in India is their worst possible matchup. Their biggest weapon their spinners, get neutralised against India. Also the current Indian team is ruthless at home.

Afghanistan should have played a FC warmup game before this test instead of those t20s. End result would have been the same but would have batted better and got the right bowling rhythm.
 
Its laughable to compare Afghanistan and Ireland in terms of test cricket. At the moment Ireland is miles ahead of Afghanistan.

Boyd Rankin 33 years old
Tim Murtagh 36 years old
Paul Strirling 27 years old
Ed Joyce 39 years old and retired from all cricket
William Porterfield 33 years old
Kevin Obrein 34 years old
Neil Obrein 36 years old
Gary Wilson 32 years old
Andrew Bilbirine 27 years old

Theses are the ones who played against Pakistan and play county cricket and have tons of county experince, Murtagh and Rankin have over 1000 county wickets between them.

Comparing Afghanistan and Ireland is a joke. Most experineced player of Afghanistan has played around 30 something first class matches and thats mostly in the standard of Afghani first class.

Why is it a joke?
Afghanistan and Ireland has played eachother 3 times with Afghanistan winning 2 and Ireland 1.

Have you seen Ireland players age? How many years can they continue? Who is replacing those players?
 
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Why is it a joke?
Afghanistan and Ireland has played eachother 3 times with Afghanistan winning 2 and Ireland 1.

Have you seen Ireland players age? How many years can they continue? Who is replacing those players?

Afghanistan's bowling is far better than Irish despite this performance (which was expected let's face it).
On the other hand I think when it comes to batsmen, Ireland has some really tough ones well crafted for test cricket.
On the flip side most of them are on the twilight of their career and it remains to be seen whether the new crop of batting would be able to grind it out in the face of quality opposition.

Only time will tell .
 
This is a classic catch 22 situation. You cannot expect them to get better unless you give them more exposure to longer format and stronger teams.. yet when you do promote them, sometimes they crumble like a house of cards.. if they don’t have the full status, nobody would play them and take away any realistic chance for them to improve. Just ask how painful it is right now for Scotland and Netherlands and even Kenya who years ago were stronger .. much stronger than Ireland and Afghanistan of today and yet ICC waited and waited and promoted Bangladesh but not Kenya and now Kenyan cricket is in ruins pretty much.


There has to be a balance and support and there is neither with most nations. Even now you will notice Afghanistan and Ireland probably won’t play that many tests
 
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Afghanistan were only in Division 5 playing Jersey 10 years ago so this is an enormous leap they're making.

Playing India in their backyard is an extremely tough introduction to Test cricket.

A better way forward is to schedule regular Tests vs WI, SL, BD and ZIM.
 
Afghanistan won the associates four day tournament (including beating Ireland). So they were ready. Most countries took a while to win. Plus test batting and bowling requires time. In terms of bowling skills the Afghans seem to have them, while test batting needs a culture of first class cricket. I guess they should send teams into local first class tournaments.
 
The people running ICC are very smart. Very soon we will have 3-4 day Tests. That's the only way for minnows to compete at Test level.
 
Afghanistan batting is gully level. Their bowling is okay.

Rashid will become a world class spinner in limited overs but in tests, he isn't a threat though.
 
The ICC before awarding them Test status should have first arranged a short tour of England where Afghanistan should have played a couple of 4 day games against some counties. Similarly some games against Pakistani and Indian domestic champions and a few 4 day games against an Australian 'A', England 'B' or any second XI sides.

I remember Sri Lanka before their Test status in 1981 once toured England for some county games and even played an unofficial Test against India in 1976 which included a couple of first class games against the state teams and also later an unofficial Test against Pakistan in the late 70's.

Afghanistan graduated to Test status playing 4 day games against minnows. I don't see any team except Pakistan playing a proper 2-3 match series against them.
 
Why is it a joke?
Afghanistan and Ireland has played eachother 3 times with Afghanistan winning 2 and Ireland 1.

Have you seen Ireland players age? How many years can they continue? Who is replacing those players?

I am talking abt test cricket, not about LOIs or unofficial matches. In T20s Afghanistan might be competitive but in tests they cant match the experience of Irish players county stints. Test is a different ball game all together.

There are many teams currently with most of their players in 30s. But, yes if these irish players retire and new lot isnt selected to play county then they might struggle as well. But, still one thing they have is experienced first class players and they can share it with the upcoming guys. However, Afghani cricketers dont have that but, if they can adapt to the requirements of test cricket then who knows.

At this point of time, Afghanistan cricket team fot atleast next 3-5 years in test cricket is gonna struggle big time may cause one off miracllous upset. Ireland on the other hand will atleast be better team in terms of being competitive in this format.
 
This is a classic catch 22 situation. You cannot expect them to get better unless you give them more exposure to longer format and stronger teams.. yet when you do promote them, sometimes they crumble like a house of cards.. if they don’t have the full status, nobody would play them and take away any realistic chance for them to improve. Just ask how painful it is right now for Scotland and Netherlands and even Kenya who years ago were stronger .. much stronger than Ireland and Afghanistan of today and yet ICC waited and waited and promoted Bangladesh but not Kenya and now Kenyan cricket is in ruins pretty much.


There has to be a balance and support and there is neither with most nations. Even now you will notice Afghanistan and Ireland probably won’t play that many tests

Equal opportunities can only be given if there is a test championship where each team plays atleast certain number of matches. Other than that I dont think they are gonna be given many opportunities considering ICC’s history snd how financial feasibility will come into play.
 
No one is ready for test cricket. ANd you cannot practice it.

Thats how it is.


You could had made Afghanistan play first class cricket for 5 years, yet the performance at international level would had not made a difference.

You guys keep mentioned Ireland, let me remind you Afghanistan has beaten Ireland in Intercontinental cup.

Also, Ireland was playing in Irish conditions. There the fast bowlers got assistance. Trust me, if Afghanistan was playing in Ireland, Shapoor Zadran, Yamin, infact even Mirwais Ashraf would had got assistance from it.

Ireland's batting also bottled, the only reasn why they scored runs in second innings was Pakistan's fielding.

Afghanistan is not Test material yet. But as a test team they will improve by playing more test cricket, then their players taking that knowledge back to first class .

If you guys actually watched the match you would know how Afghanistan was learning from the match itself.

In past, guys like Rashid were picking up wickets in firstclass by throwing in a googly or two. There he relied on his variety, while in the Test game, he had to rely on consistent line and length. Rashid couldn't drop 3 balls at one place, but after he did that he got wickets...

Look you cannot expect Afghnistan to improve without even playing Test Cricket. They will improve by playing more test. Not first Class, but more Test. Because in Test they have interaction with international players and see what they do and get beaten by the ones better then them and try to immolate what they did.

Asghar Stanikzai didn't know how to make tactics. ANd that was alright. Because you can't expect to learn Test Strategies by playing first class with guys who have no knowledge of test cricket or guys who are yet to play against good cricketers.

Other nations took years to win their first game or become a better side.

The reason why ICC gave Test Membership to Ireland and Aghanistan was not because they thought that they could challenge other teams all of a sudden. But because they saw potential in these two teams.

Usually over the years what we have seen that if one associate has its rise, the rise only last 5-6 years after which the teams performance starts to deteriorate. Canada and Kenya are good examples of this.

Canada was a good side when John Davison was the captain, after he left the team sucked.

Ireland and Afghanistan proved that their rise was short term, they showed that they have the POTENTIAL, hence they got the Test Membership.

Also, the guys who are bashing Afghanistan and claiming Ireland is a better Test side. let me remind you, Ireland had to play the same old cricketers which have been in the team for the last 10 years.

The Afghanistan team has many players come and go. And this shows that better players are being produced in Afghanistan.

10 years ago, the team was being captain by Nowroz Mangal(before him Allah Dad Noori), whos main bowler was Dawlat Ahmadzai and Hasti Gul. After that that they got Shapoor Zadran and then Hamid Hassan came along. After which Dawlat Zadran was unearthed. THey got Yamin from the under 19s, and now they have got Rashid and Mujeeb.

So you see, this team has transitioned. They keep producing players, its not the same faces that have been playing for the last 10 years.

Guys like Karim Sadiq, Noor Ali Zadran, Khaliqdad Noori and Raees Ahmadzai were important figures in Afghan set up who have retired or were not playing in this test because better players then them were unearthed.

Back in 2013, when Afghanistan defeated Ireland in the Intercontinental Cup, the team had Nowroz Mangal, SHabir Noori, Samiullah Shinwari, Mirwais Ashraf and Izatullah

And today, we had many new faces. Why? Because it shows that more players are being produced, better players are being produced which is why the ones in the team end up getting replaced.

Please stop expecting a new team to start winning in test. Atleast 5-10 years needs to be given to let it learn and get used to test cricket by actually playing it.
 
Afghanistan is losing heavily to an Indian side which is missing its 2-3 big stars. Do you think ICC could have waited before giving them the test status? Same mistake was made with Bangladesh.

Playing India in India is challenge any time and right now Indian team is ruthless in familiar conditions. Sure, it will take Afghanistan some time before they can compete in the test format, but the first test should have been against lower ranked team. Thankfully, Afg didn't bat first.
 
Very disappointed I didn’t expect them to do this bad. However, it is harsh to write them off after just one match and that against India in India.

Those claiming Ireland better than Afghanistan has no clue of both teams.
Since 2009 Afghanistan have participated in 3 intercontinental cups. Won two of them and runners up in 1. In total they’ve played 20 first class matches since 2009.They didn’t lose a single one. Their latest match against Ireland was won in same fashion as India beat.

I have followed them since 2008. Each time they advanced they have been bad in the first few matches, but then adjusts to the level very quickly. Therefore am sure in the next few matches we’ll witness a different Afghanistan inshallah.
 
Afganistan can't even play on their ground, how can you expect them to develop infrastructure ? How long will they depend on India/Pak to play ? Most of their current AFG players live and play in Pakistan. What about the next generation. How will they produce home grown talent if they can't even play in AFG fearing bomb blast ? AFG is a good team in T20 and I am sure Kenya would have been a great T20 team as well if T20 was around their time. But now look at Kenya. Kenyan players were better than Bangladeshi players but due to lack of interest and infrastructure kenya is now finished.

Since OP mentioned about Bangladesh, Only 2 teams scored 400 runs in their debut inning- Bangladesh & Zimbabwe. Bangladesh started playing cricket in 1972 and FC cricket in 1997 before they got test status in 2000. Bangladesh had already played 3 day matches against MCC, and other test playing nations 'A' team. Bangladesh has better FC structure than AFG and Ireland. The problem with Bangladesh was the performance. They had all the talent, supporters, ground, money but players failed to show their guts and perform well in the big event.
 
Afghanistan has a non existent FC structure and their biggest ever star (Nabi) used to play in Pakistani FC tournaments until as recent as 2014. I think he represented HBL

The players getting hammered right now basically are cricketers assembled together by a lack cluster board who does nothing but Agenda driven nonsense on a daily basis.

Ireland on the other hand have almost all their players playing in county games for decades now and some of them are proper county stars while Ireland too have a very good structure of their own - It is not even funny to compare (based on FC structure) these two teams!

You must be sleeping during the Ireland vs Afghanistan first class match where the Afghans crushed Ireland by an innings.
 
You must be sleeping during the Ireland vs Afghanistan first class match where the Afghans crushed Ireland by an innings.

I knew they would lose by an innings and also correctly predicted they had the bowling firepower to knock India out for about 500. I thought they would score 200 an innings and not in the entire match. Their batting is not even suited for 50 over cricket. T20 slobbers is all they have produced so far.

However their youth will come good. Just like Bangladesh, you have to give them time. 15 years ago Bangladesh had a top order with averages in the teens. Now they can win Tests at home against non Asian teams.
 
Afghanistan have played enough FC matches and done well. The build up to their first test required a couple of practice matches in India. From T20s to 1st test is a stiff transition for any team, even more for an inexperienced team playing away from home against a string side.

My prediction, Afghanistan will win their 1st test in the next couple of years.
 
Afghanistan won't take really long before winning their first test compare to other Asian teams. Their bowlers can be deadly on bowler friendly pitches.
 
Afghanistan has a non existent FC structure and their biggest ever star (Nabi) used to play in Pakistani FC tournaments until as recent as 2014. I think he represented HBL

The players getting hammered right now basically are cricketers assembled together by a lack cluster board who does nothing but Agenda driven nonsense on a daily basis.

Ireland on the other hand have almost all their players playing in county games for decades now and some of them are proper county stars while Ireland too have a very good structure of their own - It is not even funny to compare (based on FC structure) these two teams!

Ireland definitely was in a better position to demand test status.Even I always thought them as very much unlucky not to get enough chances to play enough numbers if ODIs against big boys all the year now.

Afganistan has been prematurely been given test stutus.,so was Bangladesh, though Bangladesh performed better than Afgans in their inaugural test against India.But Bangladesh played that match on their home soul.To cover up their severe deficiency in longer format Afganistan should have played their inaugural test against Zimbabwe/ Bangladesh/West Indies/Srilanka.But don't know why they went for the mighty Indians.The result is a shameful loss.At least they could have put up some fight against those 4 countries.

The problem is untill a country gets test status,ICC or respective boards of test playing nation's doesn't give that country enough chances to play even sufficient numbers of ODIs against them.How much Pakistan played ODIs or T20s against Afganistan? These countries doesn't patronize enough for these lesser countries.Otherwise there would have been a smoother transition from
LOIs to test matches.
 
A debutant team playing against the #1 side in home conditions what else were you guys expecting. The main thing is that with inclusion of 2 more teams Ireland, Zim, Afghanistan and even Bangladesh should start playing at least 8-10 test matches a year. They will improve over time. Hopefully Scotland and Netherland also get test status in the next 2-3 years.Afghan bowlers seemed very nervous in the first session where india scored 200 runs this team has competed and beaten Ireland in 4 day games so their level good enough.
 
Like I said.

Afghanistan can only play against teams like Yemen, Sudan, Fiji, and Vietnam. They are not fit to play against any top 15 side.
 
BCCI is fully supporting Afghanistan in every aspect.

I wouldn't be surprise if BCCI gives financial and technical aid to Afghanistan cricket board.

Since it has BCCI backing, I would say, improvement wise, Afghanistan has far better chance than Ireland.
 
You must be sleeping during the Ireland vs Afghanistan first class match where the Afghans crushed Ireland by an innings.

But wasn't that in Asian conditions??

As far as Pakistan- Ireland match is concerned, if Afghanistan would have played a non-Asian side, say, New Zealand in Asian conditions, then it would have been equivalent to Pakistan playing Ireland in non-Asian conditions.
 
I knew they would lose by an innings and also correctly predicted they had the bowling firepower to knock India out for about 500. I thought they would score 200 an innings and not in the entire match. Their batting is not even suited for 50 over cricket. T20 slobbers is all they have produced so far.

However their youth will come good. Just like Bangladesh, you have to give them time. 15 years ago Bangladesh had a top order with averages in the teens. Now they can win Tests at home against non Asian teams.

You are having a conversation with yourself? Multiple personality?
 
A debutant team playing against the #1 side in home conditions what else were you guys expecting. The main thing is that with inclusion of 2 more teams Ireland, Zim, Afghanistan and even Bangladesh should start playing at least 8-10 test matches a year. They will improve over time. Hopefully Scotland and Netherland also get test status in the next 2-3 years.Afghan bowlers seemed very nervous in the first session where india scored 200 runs this team has competed and beaten Ireland in 4 day games so their level good enough.

Bangladesh,Ireland,Afganistan and Zimbabwe should play test frequently against each other.3 tests home and away against any 2 of these countries in an year.That makes 12 tests/year.No need to begging to top 5 in test rankings. I can gurantee,if they can continue like this for 3 years, on 4th year the top ranked test sides like,India,Australia,England,South Africa will find it difficult to beat them.
 
Yes very impatient. ICC needs to make sure that ICC associates play A teams of top countries and only when they start beating A teams consistently only then associates should be given test status
 
Bangladesh,Ireland,Afganistan and Zimbabwe should play test frequently against each other.3 tests home and away against any 2 of these countries in an year.That makes 12 tests/year.No need to begging to top 5 in test rankings. I can gurantee,if they can continue like this for 3 years, on 4th year the top ranked test sides like,India,Australia,England,South Africa will find it difficult to beat them.

Who will take the financial burden of those matches ?
 
Who will take the financial burden of those matches ?

Respective boards.Afganistan and Irish boars can demand financial support as newbie but Bangladesh and Zimbabwe cant.BCB is a rich board.They can bear the expenses .If they are not able to bear this,they shouldn't think about playing international cricket.Its not holly and sacred duty of ICC or big three to patronise them for decades.
 
Probably the toughest test for a team making its debut in Test cricket - away to India.

Give Afghanistan time, people have to be patient, but there could be quite a few rough days before happoer times.
 
There needs to be an arrangement where some Afghanistan players ply their trade in Indian first-class cricket and learn to adapt to the longer format. The batsmen especially could learn a lot from the experience.

Unfortunately though, that is unlikely. Club cricket is more likely, which would still benefit their U19 or 'A' players.
 
Which Irish players play county cricket?

Afghanistan does have an FC cricket competition.

It has been running since 2014.

William Porterfield
Ed Joyce(has been one of the highest and most consistent run scorers in County circuit before hanging up his boots in 2017)
Gary Wilson
George Dockrell(per my knowledge, he played county at some point)
Kevin O Brien
Tim Murtagh(basically a classical English seamer, who tried his luck with Ireland courtesy of Irish parent after failing to get noticed by English selectors, not saying he is a poor bowler, love his outswing)
Boyd Rankin (Big Boyd was supposed to be Ashley Giles investment after he encouraged him to quit Ireland for England Tests)
Paul Stirling(Has been active in English domestic circuit.

This is the list of Irish players who I know of, playing in county circuit.
 
Come on guys! Afghanistan, who just 10 years ago barely had any cricket facilities were playing a Test match away at the Number 1 team. Cricket needs to expand, can't keep it to just 10 teams. I'm glad they have been given Test status and I think in Asia they could give most teams a run for their money.
 
Like I said.

Afghanistan can only play against teams like Yemen, Sudan, Fiji, and Vietnam. They are not fit to play against any top 15 side.

Thanks good you aren’t the one deciding where Afghanistan should be playing.

Just out of curiosity which sides do you rank - 11, 12, 13, 14 and 15 ?
 
Come on guys! Afghanistan, who just 10 years ago barely had any cricket facilities were playing a Test match away at the Number 1 team. Cricket needs to expand, can't keep it to just 10 teams. I'm glad they have been given Test status and I think in Asia they could give most teams a run for their money.

Expand the cricket, give test status to everyone who asks for it, why not Fiji, Nepal, Uganda, , USA, Denmark, Hong Kong, Macao , China and everyone else. Afghanistan has no proper first class circuit and any good FC level cricketer and you gave them test status, ridiculous.
 
Expand the cricket, give test status to everyone who asks for it, why not Fiji, Nepal, Uganda, , USA, Denmark, Hong Kong, Macao , China and everyone else. Afghanistan has no proper first class circuit and any good FC level cricketer and you gave them test status, ridiculous.

No, because Afghanistan have come so far and they are actually a good team. Their overall record speaks for itself, this was just 1 loss against India in India, every man and his dog knows how hard they are to beat there.
 
Don't waste your energy on him. His is burning from inside that Afghanistan is progressing day by day in cricket.

I understand if you deslike a team, fair enough. But live must be really boring if you have so much thirst for diminishing them on the every possible occasion.

The other day he claimed Afghan players were not that religious and that some scholars in Afghanistan have forbidden cricket. When asked about his source he totally ignored me.
 
William Porterfield
Ed Joyce(has been one of the highest and most consistent run scorers in County circuit before hanging up his boots in 2017)
Gary Wilson
George Dockrell(per my knowledge, he played county at some point)
Kevin O Brien
Tim Murtagh(basically a classical English seamer, who tried his luck with Ireland courtesy of Irish parent after failing to get noticed by English selectors, not saying he is a poor bowler, love his outswing)
Boyd Rankin (Big Boyd was supposed to be Ashley Giles investment after he encouraged him to quit Ireland for England Tests)
Paul Stirling(Has been active in English domestic circuit.

This is the list of Irish players who I know of, playing in county circuit.

Gary Wilson captained Surrey
Nial OBrein was vice captain of Northampton
William Porterfield has also captained in County cricket.

Wealth of Experience available for Irish cricketer's, the only problem is if the younger generation's actually have a interest in cricket considering the Irish are good at a few sports.
Afghanistan will be a typical Subcontinent team, one sport nation's; therefor they will always Churn out new players.
 
Come on guys! Afghanistan, who just 10 years ago barely had any cricket facilities were playing a Test match away at the Number 1 team. Cricket needs to expand, can't keep it to just 10 teams. I'm glad they have been given Test status and I think in Asia they could give most teams a run for their money.

Exactly. 10 years ago AFG team was playing against Nigeria and Fiji. Now they are beating Bangladesh. That is a massive improvement.

25 years ago Bangladesh was losing to Netherlands and UAE. Today they are on par (more or less) with teams like WI, SL, PAK in both formats.

Give the Afghans time.
 
Gary Wilson captained Surrey
Nial OBrein was vice captain of Northampton
William Porterfield has also captained in County cricket.

Wealth of Experience available for Irish cricketer's, the only problem is if the younger generation's actually have a interest in cricket considering the Irish are good at a few sports.
Afghanistan will be a typical Subcontinent team, one sport nation's; therefor they will always Churn out new players.

I think Ireland will take its time, but will start producing good Test players in future.
 
We will have to wait and see but this should fastrack their development so long teams are willing to keep them active
 
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