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Alastair Cook or Hashim Amla - Who is better?

Amla by a country mile.

Clarke and even AB is a better test batsmen than Cook. I rate players in terms of their performance vs quality bowling attacks. Add Odis and it's not even close.

Better comparison would be Amla vs KP in tests or overall?
 
Tests:-

Amla
KP
Clarke
AB
Cook

Overall:

Amla/AB
KP
Clarke

Cook isnt in the same league.
 
Ab Fan said:
Amla by a country mile.

Clarke and even AB is a better test batsmen than Cook. I rate players in terms of their performance vs quality bowling attacks. Add Odis and it's not even close.

Better comparison would be Amla vs KP in tests or overall?
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Amla is better than any English batsman of the last couple of decades. KP did not do much in ODI cricket and although very good in tests, was not consistent enough to be called better than Amla or Younis.

vandokkum said:
Amla>> Cook in tests.
Amla>>>>>> Cook in odi's.
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This holds truer even more today. Amla, started off like a test-only player like Cook but kept improving and reinventing himself to become world class in all formats and a future ATG in two.

Cook, although a very good test opener, is not at Amla's level.
 
Bilal7 said:
Amla is better than any English batsman of the last couple of decades. KP did not do much in ODI cricket and although very good in tests, was not consistent enough to be called better than Amla or Younis.



This holds truer even more today. Amla, started off like a test-only player like Cook but kept improving and reinventing himself to become world class in all formats and a future ATG in two.

Cook, although a very good test opener, is not at Amla's level.
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KP is superior to Cook in my views. So comparing with him is obviously more fair. At peak, KP was Tendulkar-Lara level. You can have your opinion and disagree with it. It's not a big deal as there isn't gulf of difference between all of them.
 
Ab Fan said:
KP is superior to Cook in my views. So comparing with him is obviously more fair. At peak, KP was Tendulkar-Lara level. You can have your opinion and disagree with it. It's not a big deal as there isn't gulf of difference between all of them.
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I don't remember a time when KP was considered the best batsman in the world in both tests and ODIs. However, I respect your opinion and KP was a fantastic player to watch.
 
Bilal7 said:
I don't remember a time when KP was considered the best batsman in the world in both tests and ODIs. However, I respect your opinion and KP was a fantastic player to watch.
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He became no 1 in ICC ODIs ranking back in 2007 and in tests he has done stuffs nobody could do.He won the Ashes along with Freddy when Australia had McGrath, Warne, Ponting and Gilly.Best English batsmen in last 30 years. And as you said fantastic to watch.
 
KP was capable of some of the most unbelievable innings. His 186 at Mumbai was one if those innings only a select few can play. Lara-esque.
 
Ab Fan said:
KP is superior to Cook in my views. So comparing with him is obviously more fair. At peak, KP was Tendulkar-Lara level. You can have your opinion and disagree with it. It's not a big deal as there isn't gulf of difference between all of them.
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KP was never at Lara/Tendulkar level.
 
Hasan123 said:
KP was never at Lara/Tendulkar level.
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KP at his peak was at an outrageous level.

Only a player at Lara/Tendulkar level can smash the likes of McGrath, Warne, Steyn and Herath in SL.

His masterclass in Mumbai was the greatest knock played in India by an overseas batsmen.

Name one player that has done these sort of stuffs?

He was better than David/Kallis/SangakKara in this regard. He was just not consistent enough while those were which puts them higher.
 
Ab Fan said:
KP at his peak was at an outrageous level.

Only a player at Lara/Tendulkar level can smash the likes of McGrath, Warne, Steyn and Herath in SL.

His masterclass in Mumbai was the greatest knock played in India by an overseas batsmen.

Name one player that has done these sort of stuffs?

He was better than David/Kallis/SangakKara in this regard. He was just not consistent enough while those were which puts them higher.
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He played gun knocks but lacked the consistency. Brilliant player but get slightly ovverated on PP.
 
Hasan123 said:
He played gun knocks but lacked the consistency. Brilliant player but get slightly ovverated on PP.
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Same goes for many players. KP was stylish, fantastic to watch and could dominate top quality attacks.

When a player has all these subsets, fans can overhype him sometimes and he isn't an ATG either.
 
Hasan123 said:
He played gun knocks but lacked the consistency. Brilliant player but get slightly ovverated on PP.
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After he lost captaincy, wasn't the same really, sure he did get good runs but they were softer runs than before, overshadowed by others like Cook, Trott etc. and wasn't the clutch player he once was. Only time I think he really hit that level again after losing captaincy was the SA vs Eng series where the textgate scandal took place.
 
Ab Fan said:
Same goes for many players. KP was stylish, fantastic to watch and could dominate top quality attacks.

When a player has all these subsets, fans can overhype him sometimes and he isn't an ATG either.
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Yes he could dominate attacks. Lacked the consistency to be an ATG.
 
Amla in ODIs, Cook in tests. Cook still scores big tons once in a while, while Amla is turning into a tailender.
 
So much of thread bumping these days.

Btw, a question to Cook fans:-(On personal note, I like Cook more than Amla but I am not fan of either)

1) Amla has dominated test series in Australia, England and india and has also done brilliantly at home against Australia and England. In contrast, Cook hasn't done anything in SA and has also poor record at home against Australia and South Africa. These are the places and performance which matters more than anything else.

2) Amla is also a superior ODI player to Cook.

Taking these two big points, on what basis you think Cook is a better batsmen than Amla? Remember, if Cook opens for England, Amla also was a top order for SA. So, 45 vs 47 is quite comparable.
 
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Ab Fan said:
So much of thread bumping these days.

Btw, a question to Cook fans:-(On personal note, I like Cook more than Amla but I am not fan of either)

1) Amla has dominated test series in Australia, England and india and has also done brilliantly at home against Australia and England. In contrast, Cook hasn't done anything in SA and has also poor record at home against Australia and South Africa. These are the places and performance which matters more than anything else.

2) Amla is also a superior ODI player to Cook.

Taking these two big points, on what basis you think Cook is a better batsmen than Amla? Remember, if Cook opens for England, Amla also was a top order for SA. So, 45 vs 47 is quite comparable.
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Cook has done better than Amla in their twilight years.
 
Majestic said:
Cook has done better than Amla in their twilight years.
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Yes, as compared to Amla, Cook has fared better because after 7-8 failures, he plays one-off knock on a dead rubber or against WI which generally has no impact towards the course of the series. Hardly worth a talk.

He has been better than Amla since 2015 but by just which means neither have had enough impact to talk about anything in the latter period of their career.
 
Cook is good but Amla clearly better.

Even Amla had a peak phase of 5 years where he averaged 65 in tests and scored runs everywhere. Dont think Cook ever had any such peak clearly due to inability against top bowling attacks.
 
Amla wins this one. He scored against the top attacks home and away. Cook had issues with the top attacks.
 
LOL, this SA bottler is not even half the fighter that Cook was. Don't worry, his already ATG average of 47 odd will justify what I said.
 
Don't want to insult Cook after his retirement but he never was as good as Hashim Amla. Amla has not only been a superior player of spin but also a far superior player of pace bowling.
 
Ab Fan said:
So much of thread bumping these days.

Btw, a question to Cook fans:-(On personal note, I like Cook more than Amla but I am not fan of either)

1) Amla has dominated test series in Australia, England and india and has also done brilliantly at home against Australia and England. In contrast, Cook hasn't done anything in SA and has also poor record at home against Australia and South Africa. These are the places and performance which matters more than anything else.

2) Amla is also a superior ODI player to Cook.

Taking these two big points, on what basis you think Cook is a better batsmen than Amla? Remember, if Cook opens for England, Amla also was a top order for SA. So, 45 vs 47 is quite comparable.
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Clearly, when we look at their overall performance with the bat, Amla takes it over Cook easily.
 
avicricket said:
I will go with amla.both are same in test but amla ahead in odi.
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Not sure how you can compare an opener to a no 3 batsman in Tests. Their roles entail different batting attributes, as well as differing mindset to the game to deal with the conditions they mostly faced in their respective careers.
 
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