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Alleged Indian government involvement in plots to assassinate Sikh separatists living in the West

offstump said:
Nice cherry pick

“Nijjar’s killing was the second high-profile murder in the same gurdwara,” Thomas said. “Mr Malik’s murder had occurred almost exactly the year before. The initial hypothesis was that it was a retaliation. But the community was raising concern,” Thomas said during the testimony.
Through very good intelligence and policing work, we learnt that there was a high probability that this was an extra-judicial killing,” Thomas stated.
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Is this why a politician in India was killed, with the incident being framed to appear as gang-related?

It seems as though the Indian government is attempting to manage the fallout from what appears to have been a miscalculated move.
 
rpant_gabba said:
And its up to those who make that claim to prove it if they want any legal action.

India has 20+ extradition demands of Khalistani terrorists from canada which they have ignored.

They shouldn't expect India to fold based on some vague intelligence
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Well using your same logic the extradition demands are being denied because the cases aren’t strong enough. “Bring the proof” and they’ll be extradited or perhaps stop exporting alleged terrorists to other countries. Regardless, the ex RAW murderer has been charged by the FBI.
 
HalBass9 said:
Is this why a politician in India was killed, with the incident being framed to appear as gang-related?

It seems as though the Indian government is attempting to manage the fallout from what appears to have been a miscalculated move.
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The politician Mr. Baba Siddiqui is part of BJP alliance in Maharashtra. What will BJP get killing its own ally?

Trudeau has not provided any evidence of Indian Government's involvement. But he is shooting from his hip at every press conference. Too bad, India is not fazed by this weaklings posturing.
 

Foreign affairs minister says remaining Indian diplomats are 'on notice'​

Joly said the level of transnational repression alleged by police is a first in Canadian history​


After her government expelled a group of Indian diplomats following the RCMP's shocking public statement tying India's government to violent crimes in Canada, Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly is warning more than a dozen Indian diplomats still in the country to respect Canadian law.

"They're clearly on notice," Joly said. "Six of them have been expelled, including the high commissioner in Ottawa. Others were mainly from Toronto and Vancouver.

"Clearly, we won't tolerate any diplomats that are in contravention of the Vienna Convention."

Joly's comments aimed at the remaining 15 Indian diplomats come days after the head of the RCMP accused India's government, its agents and diplomats of links to widespread criminal activity in Canada, including coercion, extortion and killings.

The RCMP said there have been more than a dozen credible and imminent threats to members of the South Asian community, in particular Sikh members of the pro-Khalistan movement.

The RCMP also said it has evidence that India's diplomats and consular officials in Canada engaged in clandestine activities, including gathering intelligence for its government.

On Thursday, India's government denied working with criminals in Canada to target Sikh separatists.

Joly said the threat was real.

"There was definitely a threat and that's exactly why the RCMP decided to take the extraordinary measure of making public the fact that Canadians were being intimidated, [were] victims of extortion or even [received] death threats because agents and diplomats from India were linked to these criminal actions," Joly told a press conference in Montreal.

Joly said that while Russia has targeted Germany and the United Kingdom with this kind of transnational repression, it's never been seen before in Canada at this scale and the government "needed to stand firm on this issue."

"We've never seen that in our history," said Joly. "That level of transnational repression cannot happen on Canadian soil."

Cameron MacKay was Canada's most recent high commissioner to India; he left the country in August. He said it's a "fiasco on the part of the Indian government" to think that agents of the Indian government could arrange violent crimes across Canada and the U.S. and get away with it.

"Some very serious red lines have been crossed and it's for that reason that Canada has taken the strong diplomatic and law enforcement action that it has up to now," he told David Cochrane, host of CBC's Power and Politics .

"The Indian government position up until now has to be to deny and vilify Canada and to distract its domestic audience from the real facts of what's been happening here. They do that by attacking Canada."

Repairing diplomatic relations with Canada is "not high" on India's agenda right now, MacKay said, adding it will take a "good long while" before relations return to anything like normal. He said over the long run, Canada "does want a better relationship with India. There's a lot we can and should be doing together."

But MacKay said some people in New Delhi made some "very serious fundamental errors in their decision-making over the last couple of years, and we need to see some accountability for that before things get normal again."

During a moment of unity at an emergency meeting on Friday, MPs from all parties on a parliamentary committee agreed to study the issue.

NDP MP Alistair MacGregor put forward the motion calling on the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians (NSICOP) to investigate allegations of electoral interference and violent criminal activities carried out by agents of India's government.

The MPs agreed to at least six meetings and to invite multiple ministers, the RCMP commissioner, the national security adviser and national security experts to testify, along with members of the South Asian community.

The motion also called on Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown and other candidates from the 2022 Conservative Party leadership race — including current leader Pierre Poilievre — to testify. The Conservatives also asked for the study to be expanded to include testimony from two deputy ministers and the new director of CSIS.

A high-profile report by a group of parliamentarians from all parties with security clearances reported that India allegedly interfered in a single Conservative Party leadership race.

The Conservative Party responded in June by saying that was the first time they'd heard that allegation and that Poilievre's campaign has "no awareness of what is referenced."

The committee meeting on Friday turned into a debate over whether Poilievre should get the security clearance that would allow him to read the unredacted NSICOP report about the allegations.

MacGregor put forward a motion asking the committee to call on all federal party leaders to apply for their security clearances in the next 30 days.

Conservative MPs fired back with an amendment calling on the government to publicly release the names of all current and former parliamentarians allegedly engaged in or at high risk of foreign interference.

At a hearing of the public inquiry into foreign interference this week, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau testified that he had seen a list of the names of Conservative parliamentarians, former parliamentarians and/or candidates who are "engaged, or at high risk of, or for whom there is clear intelligence around foreign interference."

He later said there are Liberals and members of other parties on that list as well.
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Reference: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/foreign-affairs-warning-indian-diplomats-canada-1.7356519.





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deltexas said:
If Al jazeera is saying it, I guess you Trudeau supporters need to read it and get your facts correct :
www.aljazeera.com

Justin Trudeau is a nauseating hypocrite

The prime minister won’t let anyone get away with harming Canadian citizens (other than Israel).
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
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I see you’re headline shopping again

The views expressed in this article are the author’s own and do not necessarily reflect Al Jazeera’s editorial stance.
 
offstump said:
I see you’re headline shopping again

The views expressed in this article are the author’s own and do not necessarily reflect Al Jazeera’s editorial stance.
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Selective reply lol !! Al jazeera is the news gospel with their Gaza war coverage, Anti Ind news, Anti Modi news non stop and all u guys are OK with that. But something u dont agree, its the authors opinion lol ! OK got it. That clarifies all doubts. Selective news coverage ! So next say , Anti Modi/Ind news is the authors opinion. Ok then thanks !:ROFLMAO:
 
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HalBass9 said:
Is this why a politician in India was killed, with the incident being framed to appear as gang-related?

It seems as though the Indian government is attempting to manage the fallout from what appears to have been a miscalculated move.
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What fallout? What has happened to India? Anything?
 
Champ_Pal said:
The politician Mr. Baba Siddiqui is part of BJP alliance in Maharashtra. What will BJP get killing its own ally?

Trudeau has not provided any evidence of Indian Government's involvement. But he is shooting from his hip at every press conference. Too bad, India is not fazed by this weaklings posturing.
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He knows nothing. Sees a muslim politician being killed, starts running his mouth.
 
Canada has a history of giving asylum to sikh criminals from India.

Nijjar had two Interpol RCNs pending against him which Canada refused to execute.

The main handler of Bishnoi Gang is in Canada, Goldy Brar. Why is he not being arrested?

Canada gives refuge to Sikh criminals and then tries to pass the buck to India.
 
offstump said:
Well using your same logic the extradition demands are being denied because the cases aren’t strong enough. “Bring the proof” and they’ll be extradited or perhaps stop exporting alleged terrorists to other countries. Regardless, the ex RAW murderer has been charged by the FBI.
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you might want look up criminal history of nijjar and his entry into canada.

anyway, trudeau has been talking for over a year and admits that there is no hard evidence.
 
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rpant_gabba said:
you might want look up criminal history of nijjar and his entry into canada.

anyway, trudeau has been barking for over a year and admits that there is no hard evidence.
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This legend Nijjar tried to illegally enter Canada through forged documents and got rejected several times back in 1997.
Nijjar claimed that his name was Ravi Sharma and that his parents and brother were kidnapped and tortured by Indian police.
But later on somehow he got Canadian citizenship. :vk2

Its all available in Wiki to read.

Basically Nijjar was a fraud right from the beginning. His plan was always to emigrate to Canada and continue his Terrorist acts from there. I am pretty sure Canadian Government knew about this guy. But they still granted him citizenship.
 
Ex Indian Spy, Wanted By FBI, Was Arrested For Delhi Kidnapping Last Year

Vikas Yadav, a former Indian government employee on the Federal Bureau of Investigation's wanted list, was arrested ten months ago by the Delhi Police on charges of attempted murder and kidnapping.

The former officer of the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) has been charged by US prosecutors for his alleged role in directing a failed plot to kill Khalistani terrorist Gurpatwant Singh Pannun, who holds dual citizenship of the US and Canada. The Ministry of External Affairs on Thursday confirmed that the individual named in the US Justice Department's indictment was "no longer an employee of the government of India".

Vikas was arrested by the special cell of Delhi Police in December last year after a complaint by a businessman from Rohini in north west Delhi and a chargesheet was filed in March this year. Mr Yadav got bail a month later in April.

The businessman - who is said to have many contacts in west Asia - told police that his acquaintance had introduced him to Vikas Yadav in November 2023 and told him that he was a senior government officer. They soon shared mobile numbers to stay in touch.

According to the complaint, Yadav often asked him about his work and friends. The former government employee had also told him that he worked as an undercover agent. But, he never shared any information about his work and office, the businessman told the police.

On December 11, Yadav called him and said that he wanted to discuss some issue and asked him to come to Lodhi Road, as per the complaint. There was another man with Yadav when he reached the location. The businessman claimed that they forcibly kidnapped him and took him to a flat in Defense Colony, where Yadav told him that gangster Lawrence Bishnoi had given him a contract to kill him.

Yadav's associate then hit him on the head and took away his gold chain and rings, he alleged, adding they went to his cafe and took whatever cash was there. According to the complainant, they left him on the side of a road and threatened him with a dire outcome if he complained to anyone.

The businessman soon went to the police and a First Information Report or FIR was filed in the case under the sections of attempt to murder, criminal conspiracy and kidnapping. Yadav and his associate were arrested on December 18.

During interrogation, the associate told the police that he joined the conspiracy with Vikas Yadav as he had suffered losses in his business of old vehicles. He said that Yadav told him that his father was in the Border Security Force.

Vikas Yadav said that he planned the whole crime the day he met the businessman. Delhi Police filed a case in March, and Vikas got bail in April. Although Vikas got interim bail on March 22, but then he got regular bail in April.

US' Charges Against Vikas Yadav

Vikas Yadav faces three charges: conspiracy to hire a hitman, the actual "murder-for-hire" plot, and money laundering. The charges against him and his alleged co-conspirator Nikhil Gupta, were unsealed in the Federal Southern District of New York Court on Thursday.

According to the indictment, Yadav was the alleged mastermind who recruited Gupta to carry out the plot in exchange for helping him get criminal cases against him dismissed. Nikhil Gupta was arrested in the Czech Republic and was extradited to the US in June.

Many of the details in the document repeat the same narratives made in earlier documents filed against Gupta, but this time, Yadav is identified by name.

"Yadav recruited Gupta to orchestrate the assassination of the Victim in the United States and that under Yadav's directions, Gupta contacted a government "confidential source" who he thought was "a criminal associate," it said.

As per the document, the alleged plot began around May 6 last year with Yadav sending Gupta a message on an encrypted app, "This is Vikas ... save my name as Aman".

In June 2023, they hired a "hitman" and agreed on a payment of $100,000 to allegedly kill the "victim", the court document which did not name Pannun said. Yadav and Gupta arranged through an "associate of Yadav" to give $15,000 as advance.

The plot, however, unravelled as the "hitman" they hired was an undercover US law enforcement officer, according to the 18-page court document, which also included a photograph of Yadav dressed in military fatigues.

The charges were filed a day after an Indian Enquiry Committee set up to investigate the allegations visited Washington to discuss the case with US officials.

Post a commentIn November last year, US federal prosecutors charged Nikhil Gupta of working with an Indian government employee in the foiled plot to kill Pannun in New York.

SOURCE: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/vik...g-last-year-6824153#pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll
 
deltexas said:
Selective reply lol !! Al jazeera is the news gospel with their Gaza war coverage, Anti Ind news, Anti Modi news non stop and all u guys are OK with that. But something u dont agree, its the authors opinion lol ! OK got it. That clarifies all doubts. Selective news coverage ! So next say , Anti Modi/Ind news is the authors opinion. Ok then thanks !:ROFLMAO:
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Wow. What part of opinion piece don’t you understand? I know news is censored in India but any credible newspaper allows opinion pieces to encourage diverse perspectives and open debate. The disclaimer is clearly at the bottom of the article which you shared yet you can’t accept that. Goodness me.
 
offstump said:
Wow. What part of opinion piece don’t you understand? I know news is censored in India but any credible newspaper allows opinion pieces to encourage diverse perspectives and open debate. The disclaimer is clearly at the bottom of the article which you shared yet you can’t accept that. Goodness me.
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News is not censored in Ind. Maybe in other military dictatorships but not in Ind as its a democracy. Everything is available on internet. And u miss the point on opinion pieces.. Op pieces that are Anti Ind Anti Modi, pro hamas terrorists, are highlighted here on PP. And you guys lap it up. Fine. But if an op piece is something against what you want - then all of a sudden its an opinion piece only.. lol..
 
deltexas said:
News is not censored in Ind. Maybe in other military dictatorships but not in Ind as it’s a democracy. Everything is available on internet. And u miss the point on opinion pieces.. Op pieces that are Anti Ind Anti Modi, pro hamas terrorists, are highlighted here on PP. And you guys lap it up. Fine. But if an op piece is something against what you want - then all of a sudden its an opinion piece only.. lol..
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Sorry, I should clarify then. News is censored in religious fascist countries masquerading as democracies.

“But if an op piece is something against what you want - then all of a sudden it’s an opinion piece only”

You aren’t making any sense. If an op piece is just that, then what else can it be?

Regardless, you’ve jumped to all sorts of conclusions. I never said the article was against what I wanted, if I did can you point that out? All I am clarifying is your post about Al Jazeera “saying it.” There is clearly a disclaimer stating it may not reflect the editorial stance of Al Jazeera.
 
offstump said:
Sorry, I should clarify then. News is censored in religious fascist countries masquerading as democracies.

“But if an op piece is something against what you want - then all of a sudden it’s an opinion piece only”

You aren’t making any sense. If an op piece is just that, then what else can it be?

Regardless, you’ve jumped to all sorts of conclusions. I never said the article was against what I wanted, if I did can you point that out? All I am clarifying is your post about Al Jazeera “saying it.” There is clearly a disclaimer stating it may not reflect the editorial stance of Al Jazeera.
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News is censored in religious fascist countries masquerading as democracies. - yes I agree Pak is one

Al Jazeera "saying it " . Semantics. I get it what you are saying. Next time, guys here when posting Al jazeera Op pieces that are Anti Ind, Anti Modi, Pro hamas etc etc should also state its an op piece and not state it as fact
 
Champ_Pal said:
The politician Mr. Baba Siddiqui is part of BJP alliance in Maharashtra. What will BJP get killing its own ally?

Trudeau has not provided any evidence of Indian Government's involvement. But he is shooting from his hip at every press conference. Too bad, India is not fazed by this weaklings posturing.
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He is high profile.

Indian media tried to convince that the same gang was involved in killing of Canadian citizen.

I wouldn’t surprise if BJP would kill their own in an attempt to salvage the situation.

If BJP is fine with killing their fellow countrymen for being Muslim then they should have no issue in killing their fellow politician. After all they are politicians.
 
deltexas said:
News is not censored in Ind. Maybe in other military dictatorships but not in Ind as it’s a democracy. Everything is available on internet. And u miss the point on opinion pieces.. Op pieces that are Anti Ind Anti Modi, pro hamas terrorists, are highlighted here on PP. And you guys lap it up. Fine. But if an op piece is something against what you want - then all of a sudden its an opinion piece only.. lol..
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News is not censored in India.

Anyone still debating with such individuals who believe in that news is not censored in India should stop wasting their time with them 😂😂😂😂😂
 
HalBass9 said:
News is not censored in India.

Anyone still debating with such individuals who believe in that news is not censored in India should stop wasting their time with them 😂😂😂😂😂
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Yeah rich coming from someone who thinks Pak is a democracy .. There are multiple news channels in Ind like the US and they are opinionated pieces like in the uS you have Fox, msnbc etc etc. So, opinionated yes, censored no. Get the difference. People still elect their own gov unlike some countries which are ruled by the military. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
deltexas said:
Yeah rich coming from someone who thinks Pak is a democracy .. There are multiple news channels in Ind like the US and they are opinionated pieces like in the uS you have Fox, msnbc etc etc. So, opinionated yes, censored no. Get the difference. People still elect their own gov unlike some countries which are ruled by the military. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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Well if you believe that USA media is not ever censored then what else is there to discuss.

Show me where any Pakistani has claimed that the Pakistan has democracy. I’ll let you hold your breath
 
HalBass9 said:
Well if you believe that USA media is not ever censored then what else is there to discuss.

Show me where any Pakistani has claimed that the Pakistan has democracy. I’ll let you hold your breath
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Again I hope you understand the difference between censored and opinionated. All day Pak posters keep claiming this would never happen in Pak unlike the fascist Ind regime . Claiming its an "Islamic" democracy whatever that may mean.
 
Does India have the guts to expell Amreekan diplomats, or ridicule them in public?

Never cos Indians know which side their bread is buttered on.
 
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deltexas said:
Again I hope you understand the difference between censored and opinionated. All day Pak posters keep claiming this would never happen in Pak unlike the fascist Ind regime . Claiming it’s an "Islamic" democracy whatever that may mean.
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Censorship is not one size fits all.

Forget about Pakistan. Focus on India as this thread is about Pakistan and of course you have no idea what you are trying to defend.
 
HalBass9 said:
Censorship is not one size fits all.

Forget about Pakistan. Focus on India as this thread is about Pakistan and of course you have no idea what you are trying to defend.
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Censorship is not one size fits all. - exactly . News is reported and news channels have their own spin on it. So unlike dictatorial or radical or miltary regimes - news is not censored in democracies

And yes - this thread is about Ind and Canada. On this - fact is Trudeau has nothing , he is protecting his minority gov to appease jagmeet singh, simple as that
 
BouncerGuy said:
Ex Indian Spy, Wanted By FBI, Was Arrested For Delhi Kidnapping Last Year

Vikas Yadav, a former Indian government employee on the Federal Bureau of Investigation's wanted list, was arrested ten months ago by the Delhi Police on charges of attempted murder and kidnapping.

The former officer of the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) has been charged by US prosecutors for his alleged role in directing a failed plot to kill Khalistani terrorist Gurpatwant Singh Pannun, who holds dual citizenship of the US and Canada. The Ministry of External Affairs on Thursday confirmed that the individual named in the US Justice Department's indictment was "no longer an employee of the government of India".

Vikas was arrested by the special cell of Delhi Police in December last year after a complaint by a businessman from Rohini in north west Delhi and a chargesheet was filed in March this year. Mr Yadav got bail a month later in April.

The businessman - who is said to have many contacts in west Asia - told police that his acquaintance had introduced him to Vikas Yadav in November 2023 and told him that he was a senior government officer. They soon shared mobile numbers to stay in touch.

According to the complaint, Yadav often asked him about his work and friends. The former government employee had also told him that he worked as an undercover agent. But, he never shared any information about his work and office, the businessman told the police.

On December 11, Yadav called him and said that he wanted to discuss some issue and asked him to come to Lodhi Road, as per the complaint. There was another man with Yadav when he reached the location. The businessman claimed that they forcibly kidnapped him and took him to a flat in Defense Colony, where Yadav told him that gangster Lawrence Bishnoi had given him a contract to kill him.

Yadav's associate then hit him on the head and took away his gold chain and rings, he alleged, adding they went to his cafe and took whatever cash was there. According to the complainant, they left him on the side of a road and threatened him with a dire outcome if he complained to anyone.

The businessman soon went to the police and a First Information Report or FIR was filed in the case under the sections of attempt to murder, criminal conspiracy and kidnapping. Yadav and his associate were arrested on December 18.

During interrogation, the associate told the police that he joined the conspiracy with Vikas Yadav as he had suffered losses in his business of old vehicles. He said that Yadav told him that his father was in the Border Security Force.

Vikas Yadav said that he planned the whole crime the day he met the businessman. Delhi Police filed a case in March, and Vikas got bail in April. Although Vikas got interim bail on March 22, but then he got regular bail in April.

US' Charges Against Vikas Yadav

Vikas Yadav faces three charges: conspiracy to hire a hitman, the actual "murder-for-hire" plot, and money laundering. The charges against him and his alleged co-conspirator Nikhil Gupta, were unsealed in the Federal Southern District of New York Court on Thursday.

According to the indictment, Yadav was the alleged mastermind who recruited Gupta to carry out the plot in exchange for helping him get criminal cases against him dismissed. Nikhil Gupta was arrested in the Czech Republic and was extradited to the US in June.

Many of the details in the document repeat the same narratives made in earlier documents filed against Gupta, but this time, Yadav is identified by name.

"Yadav recruited Gupta to orchestrate the assassination of the Victim in the United States and that under Yadav's directions, Gupta contacted a government "confidential source" who he thought was "a criminal associate," it said.

As per the document, the alleged plot began around May 6 last year with Yadav sending Gupta a message on an encrypted app, "This is Vikas ... save my name as Aman".

In June 2023, they hired a "hitman" and agreed on a payment of $100,000 to allegedly kill the "victim", the court document which did not name Pannun said. Yadav and Gupta arranged through an "associate of Yadav" to give $15,000 as advance.

The plot, however, unravelled as the "hitman" they hired was an undercover US law enforcement officer, according to the 18-page court document, which also included a photograph of Yadav dressed in military fatigues.

The charges were filed a day after an Indian Enquiry Committee set up to investigate the allegations visited Washington to discuss the case with US officials.

Post a commentIn November last year, US federal prosecutors charged Nikhil Gupta of working with an Indian government employee in the foiled plot to kill Pannun in New York.

SOURCE: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/vik...g-last-year-6824153#pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll
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@deltexas aren't these evidences enough now?
 
Technics 1210 said:
Does India have the guts to expell Amreekan diplomats, or ridicule them in public?

Never cos Indians know which side their bread is buttered on.
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Obviously No.

No country can stand up to America. Not even China or Russia.

However, India can easily handle the likes of Kanayda. If Canada had the power to teach India a lesson, they would not run to 5 eyes nations to put sanctions on India.

Canadians are wonderful people. However their leader is a clown. He is barking at India to hide from his own parties terrible performance. A smoke screen to divert people’s attention from the actual democratic issues.
 
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The Bald Eagle said:
@deltexas aren't these evidences enough now?
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Evidence enough for what ??

Vikas Yadav, a former Indian government employee on the Federal Bureau of Investigation's wanted list, was arrested ten months ago by the Delhi Police on charges of attempted murder and kidnapping.

He was arrested by Delhi Police. If he was involved, police would not even have arrested him. Like terrorists who commit terrorist activities in Ind get safe haven in Pak . So, its a good thing that Ind is cooperating with US. If Ind was involved, they would not have disclosed him right ??
 
sweep_shot said:
Do you want Canada to send evidence to your mailbox or your ProtonMail email address?
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Get the full info before you post trigger happy. See this link from BBC for complete info :

www.bbc.com

Gurpatwant Singh Pannu: US charges ex-India agent in Sikh separatist murder plot

The US Justice department has charged Vikash Yadav, a former Indian intelligence officer, in the alleged plot.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

And highlighted portion from the link for your reference :

The Washington Post reported that Yadav is still in India and that the US is expected to seek his extradition, citing US official sources.

The US State Department has said that it was satisfied with India's co-operation in the investigation of the alleged murder plot.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Obviously No.

No country can stand up to America. Not even China or Russia.

However, India can easily handle the likes of Kanayda. If Canada had the power to teach India a lesson, they would not run to 5 eyes nations to put sanctions on India.

Canadians are wonderful people. However their leader is a clown. He is barking at India to hide from his own parties terrible performance. A smoke screen to divert people’s attention from the actual democratic issues.
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US is a super power and no one messes with it. Ind is not stupid. No nation incl China as you said will mess with it head on. Ind is diplomatic and plays its cards accordingly. Folks forget Ind is still a developing nation and has to be careful and do delicate balancing acts at the international stage which it is doing to perfection.
 
And more info from a Canadian newspaper :

www.theglobeandmail.com

Opinion: The Canada-India row has its roots in the Liberals’ diaspora politics

Trudeau may have had no choice but to expel the Indian officials. But did he need to make such a show of it?
www.theglobeandmail.com www.theglobeandmail.com

The Canada-India row has its roots in the Liberals’ diaspora politics ::


In 1989, when reports surfaced that Ottawa had expelled Indian diplomats for spying, then foreign affairs minister Joe Clark did not hold a press conference to lecture the Indian government or express righteous indignation at its alleged Vienna Convention violations. Instead, Mr. Clark rose in the House of Commons to respond to charges from the Liberal immigration critic Sergio Marchi that India’s government had engaged in “elaborate and covert operations … to discredit and destabilize the Canadian Sikh community” and manipulate Canadian officials. India had grown frustrated with Canada’s coddling of Sikh separatists and the RCMP’s botched investigation into the 1985 bombing of an Air India flight that originated in Canada. “If friendly governments engage in any activities, including intelligence activities, which are inappropriate, we deal with them directly, we reprimand them directly and we require the removal from the country of any people who have been involved in those improper activities,” Mr. Clark replied, neither confirming nor denying the reports that Indian consular and embassy officials had been kicked out of Canada.

Compare the low-key handling of that diplomatic incident with the onslaught against India unleashed on Monday by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau after the RCMP announced that it had gathered evidence allegedly revealing “the breadth and depth of criminal activity orchestrated by agents of the government of India.”
Mr. Trudeau’s press conference, with Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly and Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc standing solemnly behind him, was unprecedented not just in almost 80 years of diplomatic relations between Canada and India, but in the annals of international diplomacy between “friendly” countries, period.
Could you imagine the leader of any other G7 country going to such lengths to stigmatize and alienate such a critical ally?


To be sure, the allegations levelled by Mr. Trudeau against the six Indian diplomats who have been ordered to leave the country go far beyond collecting information on Canadians through “questionable and illegal means” to include passing on that information to criminal organizations engaged in killing and extortion.
If true, such behaviour is inexcusable, nay unconscionable, and Canada had no choice but to expel these individuals given India’s refusal to waive their diplomatic immunity. But did Mr. Trudeau need to make such a show of it?
Reasonable people can disagree on that point. But what is beyond dispute is that foreign governments, including democratic ones, routinely target suspected terrorists outside their own borders. India sees itself as no different than the United States or Israel in this respect. And it has long seen Canada’s Sikh diaspora as threat to Indian national security.
Indian governments going back more than four decades have bemoaned Canada’s unwillingness to crack down on what it says are the terrorist activities and anti-India hate speech of Sikhs in this country who advocate for an independent Khalistan in the Punjab region. And it accuses politicians here, especially Liberal ones, of putting diaspora politics above Canada’s broader foreign policy interests.

Sikh Canadians have exceptional political clout owing to their concentration in about two dozen federal ridings in Ontario and British Columbia and their deep and strategic engagement in the political process. Though Canada’s Hindu population is slightly larger than the 800,000-strong Sikh community, it is far less geographically concentrated or united in its political views.

No Canadian prime minister has courted Sikh voters as brazenly as Mr. Trudeau. His assiduousness in this respect has only grown since Jagmeet Singh, who has displayed pro-Khalistan sympathies, became Leader of the New Democratic Party.
From Mr. Trudeau’s bragging in 2016 that he had more Sikhs in his cabinet than Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to the invitation extended to the B.C. man convicted of attempting to murder an Indian cabinet minister to an official reception in 2018, the Trudeau government repeatedly put wooing Sikh electors ahead of maintaining good diplomatic relations with New Delhi.

In 2019, then public safety minister Ralph Goodale removed a reference to “Sikh extremism” from his department’s 2018 Public Report on the Terrorism Threat to Canada after some Sikh leaders here threatened to ban Liberal politicians from attending events in their community.
In 2020, the Modi government accused Canada of “unacceptable interference” in India’s internal affairs after Mr. Trudeau spoke out in support of Sikh farmers protesting Mr. Modi’s agricultural reforms. New Delhi accused Ottawa of encouraging “extremist activities.”
By all accounts, Canada remains the epicentre of Sikh extremism outside India. The 2023 murder of Hardeep Singh Nijjar – which Mr. Trudeau soon after linked to Indian government agents – did not occur in a vacuum. Unfortunately, if the RCMP’s allegations are true, the Indian government only appears to have ramped up its illicit activities here since then.

One thing is for sure. This is no way for two “friendly countries” to conduct business with each other.

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deltexas said:
Censorship is not one size fits all. - exactly . News is reported and news channels have their own spin on it. So unlike dictatorial or radical or miltary regimes - news is not censored in democracies

And yes - this thread is about Ind and Canada. On this - fact is Trudeau has nothing , he is protecting his minority gov to appease jagmeet singh, simple as that
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News is not censored in democracy 😂
 
HalBass9 said:
He is high profile.

Indian media tried to convince that the same gang was involved in killing of Canadian citizen.

I wouldn’t surprise if BJP would kill their own in an attempt to salvage the situation.

If BJP is fine with killing their fellow countrymen for being Muslim then they should have no issue in killing their fellow politician. After all they are politicians.
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What salvage? GoI doesn't care about Canada. Trudeau is a subject of jokes in India nowadays.
 
sweep_shot said:
Do you want Canada to send evidence to your mailbox or your ProtonMail email address?
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Not to my mailbox. But to Indian government.

Your PM is an expert at name calling without any proof.

Just today he testified that Tucker Carlson of US and Jordan Peterson were on Russian payroll to promote anti vax propaganda. When asked for proof, he said he does not have evidence for it. :vk2

www.yahoo.com

Justin Trudeau Testifies That Russia Funded Tucker Carlson and Jordan Peterson in Support of Their Anti-Vax Covid Claims | Video

The Canadian prime minister made the allegations under oath at the nation’s Foreign Interference Commission The post Justin Trudeau Testifies That Russia Funded Tucker Carlson and Jordan Peterson in Support of Their Anti-Vax Covid Claims | Video appeared first on TheWrap.
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cricketjoshila said:
Trudeau himself said he has intelligence and no hard evidence.
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He demanded India to conduct an investigation on the Indian embassy officials and prove that India is involved in the killing of Nijjar.

Trudeau seems to be on the same level as Rahul Gandhi🙏
 
Champ_Pal said:
He demanded India to conduct an investigation on the Indian embassy officials and prove that India is involved in the killing of Nijjar.

Trudeau seems to be on the same level as Rahul Gandhi🙏
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Someone teach him about

nemo tenetur seipsum accusare
 
Champ_Pal said:
He demanded India to conduct an investigation on the Indian embassy officials and prove that India is involved in the killing of Nijjar.

Trudeau seems to be on the same level as Rahul Gandhi🙏
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He also accused Indian anchors who reported against his version of the events as interfering in Canada.
 

Justin Trudeau made sure ties with India go downward: Outgoing Indian envoy​


Sanjay Kumar Verma, the outgoing Indian High Commissioner to Canada, has accused Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of ruining the bilateral ties between the two countries for political gains.

India recalled Verma and some other diplomats from Canada after Ottawa named him a 'person of interest' in its investigation into Khalistani terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar's killing.

In an interview with Canada's private broadcaster CTV, Sanjay Verma said, "Canada didn't follow the practice which should have been there. Evidence should have been shared first, but someone (Trudeau) decided to stand in Parliament and talk about a thing for which he himself has said there was no hard evidence."

"And the day on which he did that, since then, he has made sure that the bilateral relations with India only go downwards, spiralling down," he added.

Sanjay Verma was referring to Justin Trudeau's address in the Canadian Parliament in September last year when he alleged involvement of Indian government's agents in the killing of Nijjar, a Canadian citizen.

Despite making him a 'person of interest' in the Nijjar murder case, Canada didn't provide any evidence to India, something which Trudeau admitted in the the foreign interference inquiry on October 16.

"The problem is that when he accused, he himself admitted there was no hard evidence. There was intelligence. On the basis of intelligence, if you want to destroy a relationship, be my guest," Verma said.

Sanjay Verma said that the evidence being cited by Canada is hearsay. "I know, for sure, that they go from one person to the other, asking them about the hearsay. Most of them are those who are pro-Khalistan elements, anti-India elements," he said.

Verma also highlighted Western hypocrisy, saying "gone are the days when the so-called developed countries would ask a developing country that you must do this, and they will run after them and do it".

"We are a rule of law country, as Canada prides itself on being a rule of law country. So, won't you give me evidence which is suitable for my own legal process?" he asked.

Sanjay Verma said he and his colleagues were monitoring pro-Khalistan and anti-India elements in Canada, but not using any covert means.

"If the Canadian politicians are so novice that they want me not to know what my enemies are doing here, then I'm sorry, they don't know what international relations is all about," Verma said.

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Justin Trudeau made sure ties with India go downward: Outgoing Indian envoy

In an interview with Canada's private broadcaster CTV, Sanjay Kumar Verma the outgoing Indian High Commissioner to Ottawa, said Justin Trudeau has made sure that the bilateral relations with India "only go downwards, spiralling down".
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Expelled Indian diplomat denies involvement in murder of Sikh leader in Canada

India’s high commissioner to Canada has denied any involvement in the murder of a Canadian Sikh leader who was killed in British Columbia last year even though the Canadian government has named him as a person of interest in the assassination.

Sanjay Kumar Verma, who was expelled last Monday along with five other Indian diplomats, said in an interview on CTV’s Question Period Sunday that the allegations are politically motivated.

“Nothing at all,” Verma said when asked if he had any role in in the shooting of Hardeep Singh Nijjar who was killed outside a cultural center in Surrey, British Columbia on June 18, 2023. “No evidence presented. Politically motivated.”

Four Indian nationals living in Canada were charged with Nijjar’s murder and are awaiting trial.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police went public this week with allegations that Indian diplomats were targeting Sikh separatists in Canada by sharing information about them with their government back home. They said top Indian officials were then passing that information to Indian organized crime groups who were targeting the activists, who are Canadian citizens, with drive-by shootings, extortions and even murder.

Verma denied the Indian government was targeting Sikh separatists in Canada.

“I, as high commissioner of India, have never done anything of that kind,” he said.

Any action taken by Indian officials in Canada was “overt,” said Verma.

In the interview Verma condemned Nijjar’s death.

“Any murder is wrong and bad,” he said. “I do condemn.”

Verma also pushed back on comments made by Canadian Foreign Minister Melanie Joly that compared India to Russia. She said Canada’s national police force has linked Indian diplomats to homicides, death threats and intimidation in Canada.

“Let me see the concrete evidence she’s talking about,” said Verma. “As far as I’m concerned, she’s talking politically."

India has rejected the Canadian accusations as absurd, and its foreign ministry said it was expelling Canada’s acting high commissioner and five other diplomats in response.

Verma said “not a shred of evidence has been shared with us” about the Canadian allegations.

The RCMP has said attempts earlier this month to share evidence with Indian officials were unsuccessful.

Verma said the RCMP had not applied for the proper visas to visit India.

“A visa needs to be affixed,” he said. “For any government delegation to travel to another country, you need an agenda to go by. There was no agenda at all."

Canada is not the only country that has accused Indian officials of plotting an assassination on foreign soil. The U.S. Justice Department announced criminal charges against an Indian government employee Thursday in connection with an alleged foiled plot to kill a Sikh separatist leader living in New York City.

In the case announced by the Justice Department, Vikash Yadav, who authorities say directed the New York plot from India, faces murder-for-hire charges in a planned killing that prosecutors have previously said was meant to precede a string of other politically motivated murders in the United States and Canada.

“An indictment is not a conviction,” Verma said. “It will follow its judicial process.”

India has repeatedly criticized the Canadian government for being soft on supporters of what is known as the Khalistan movement, which is banned in India but has support among the Sikh diaspora, particularly in Canada.

The Khalistan movement supports the establishment of an independent Sikh state in India.

The Nijjar killing in Canada has soured India-Canada ties for more than a year, but Verma doesn’t expect this will impact business relations between the two countries.

“I don’t see much impact on non-political bilateral relations,” he said.


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Expelled Indian diplomat denies involvement in murder of Sikh leader in Canada

India’s high commissioner to Canada has denied any involvement in the murder of a Canadian Sikh leader who was killed in British Columbia last year even though the Canadian government has named him as a person of interest in the assassination
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After India-China reached agreement on Border, Trudeau imposed 25% taxes on steel imported from China. Trudeau going mad on everything good happens with India
 
It's certain Trudeau will lose elections si he is making sure he is creating as many hurdles he can to obstruct next government so that he will ammunition to crictise.
 
Indians are in defence mode and trying to badmouth Trudeau to deflect from this, but there has also been similar assassination plot charges raised against an Indian govt employee in the USA. Denial is obviously going to be the first resort, but the noose is tightening, and the true test will be what happens when the pressure is applied from the US side.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Indians are in defence mode and trying to badmouth Trudeau to deflect from this, but there has also been similar assassination plot charges raised against an Indian govt employee in the USA. Denial is obviously going to be the first resort, but the noose is tightening, and the true test will be what happens when the pressure is applied from the US side.
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Indeed.

It makes me laugh that they are attacking Trudeau. Fact of the matter is, Trudeau is pro-immigration and many Indians got benefited from his soft liberal immigration policies.

Canada should continue to take tough decisions when it comes to India.
 
I still don't understand why Truedeau would say these things for the sake of it?

Is the Indian diaspora in Canada like the Iranian diaspora? Do these former Indians hate their country so much that a Canadian PM can bank on their votes if he gets tough on India.

Whatever way you look at this situation it's hugely embarrassing.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I still don't understand why Truedeau would say these things for the sake of it?

Is the Indian diaspora in Canada like the Iranian diaspora? Do these former Indians hate their country so much that a Canadian PM can bank on their votes if he gets tough on India.

Whatever way you look at this situation it's hugely embarrassing.
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Why embarrassing? Indian government was doing shady things on Canadian soil. Good on Trudeau for calling it out.

You can read here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...row-sikh-activists-death-hardeep-singh-nijjar.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Sorry I meant highly embarrassing for India.

Even if we accept their claim that JT is lying the fact that having a go at India has currency in Canadian elections is embarrassing for India.
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I see.

JT has no reason to lie. These Indian posters are writing nonsense as usual. JT is a liberal. There has been huge Indian immigration under him.

What JT said was also repeated by US government (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/just...-indian-government-employee-connection-foiled).
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Indians are in defence mode and trying to badmouth Trudeau to deflect from this, but there has also been similar assassination plot charges raised against an Indian govt employee in the USA. Denial is obviously going to be the first resort, but the noose is tightening, and the true test will be what happens when the pressure is applied from the US side.
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Get the details on the US side before posting. That thing is already resolved. Noose is tightening lol.. And Trudeau is losing badly this year- everyone knows that. You and your imaginary noose 😂
 
sweep_shot said:
Indeed.

It makes me laugh that they are attacking Trudeau. Fact of the matter is, Trudeau is pro-immigration and many Indians got benefited from his soft liberal immigration policies.

Canada should continue to take tough decisions when it comes to India.
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Again get facts or read facts above before just blindly shooting off..Canada should take tough decisions against extremist khalistanis and radical Islamic terrorists.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Sorry I meant highly embarrassing for India.

Even if we accept their claim that JT is lying the fact that having a go at India has currency in Canadian elections is embarrassing for India.
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Embarrassing for what lol! Trudeau needed jagmeet singhs few seats support to survive. Read posts above- but no Trudeau this Ind that...no worries though- Trudeau is on the way out in the coming elections.

 
DeadlyVenom said:
Sorry I meant highly embarrassing for India.

Even if we accept their claim that JT is lying the fact that having a go at India has currency in Canadian elections is embarrassing for India.
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His support for Khalistanis and his blatant interference in Indian politics(Farmers protests) shows his true intentions.

His anti-India stance is to coverup the CCP interference in the Canadian elections. He just wants to show that he is patriotic by taking anti-India stance. He clearly forgot that this is not 1980 or 1990. Times have changed. He thought India will take it on its chin without uttering a word. He forgot that this is 2024. He clearly did not expect India to retaliate harshly.
 
deltexas said:
Embarrassing for what lol! Trudeau needed jagmeet singhs few seats support to survive. Read posts above- but no Trudeau this Ind that...no worries though- Trudeau is on the way out in the coming elections.

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Whether it's embarrassing for India depends on your perspective.

China and Russia do heaps of it.

Russia has murdered several dissidents including one very high profile assassination in the UK - you may remember Litvinenko
China does this almost continuously. They've hounded Tiananmen Square escapees ruthlessly. Several Chinese citizens have been charged in western countries for harassment and even assassination.
Saudi Arabia's done it plenty. Including famously chopping up Khashoggi in Turkey

If you're important enough like China or close enough to the West like Saudi, you'll get away with it with some mild finger-wagging. If not, you'll get the Russia treatment - sanctions and stuff.

I'm definitely embarrassed. First I don't like this extra-legal killing and the company it places us in and second, I'm annoyed we did it in such an amateurish manner
 
Red-Indian said:
Whether it's embarrassing for India depends on your perspective.

China and Russia do heaps of it.

Russia has murdered several dissidents including one very high profile assassination in the UK - you may remember Litvinenko
China does this almost continuously. They've hounded Tiananmen Square escapees ruthlessly. Several Chinese citizens have been charged in western countries for harassment and even assassination.
Saudi Arabia's done it plenty. Including famously chopping up Khashoggi in Turkey

If you're important enough like China or close enough to the West like Saudi, you'll get away with it with some mild finger-wagging. If not, you'll get the Russia treatment - sanctions and stuff.

I'm definitely embarrassed. First I don't like this extra-legal killing and the company it places us in and second, I'm annoyed we did it in such an amateurish manner
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I get what you are saying but there is no concrete evidence yet from Trudeau on his claims. He is doing some appeasement to keep jagmeet singh..even Canadian newspapers are saying Trudeau is on a witchhunt.
 
deltexas said:
I get what you are saying but there is no concrete evidence yet from Trudeau on his claims. He is doing some appeasement to keep jagmeet singh..even Canadian newspapers are saying Trudeau is on a witchhunt.
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Look...we can continue to deny what's in front of our face but while Trudeau's a bit of an idiot and an opportunist, he's no madman. Whether this forum will admit it or not, we're a middle-power and he's not going to take panga with a country like India based on nothing.

My guess is he has no hard evidence but the US has shared with him wiretaps and other similar intelligence that showed involvement of spies in the Indian consulate in spying on the local criminals in the pseudo-Khalistani movement and maybe even some involvement in the assassination. He jumped the gun and openly accused India to please his alliance partners but has now realised he can't share the evidence since it'll reveal the extent of penetration of Indian communications. He's now stuck between a rock and a hard place.
 
Red-Indian said:
Look...we can continue to deny what's in front of our face but while Trudeau's a bit of an idiot and an opportunist, he's no madman. Whether this forum will admit it or not, we're a middle-power and he's not going to take panga with a country like India based on nothing.

My guess is he has no hard evidence but the US has shared with him wiretaps and other similar intelligence that showed involvement of spies in the Indian consulate in spying on the local criminals in the pseudo-Khalistani movement and maybe even some involvement in the assassination. He jumped the gun and openly accused India to please his alliance partners but has now realised he can't share the evidence since it'll reveal the extent of penetration of Indian communications. He's now stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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All this could have been dealt with diplomatically behind closed doors. The art of diplomacy was lost on Trudeau. And totally agree though as you say that Trudeau's a bit of an idiot and an opportunist, but for sure he's no madman. Compared to the other non elected world leaders. And as you say - the pseudo-Khalistani movement. Its a very minor fringe wing , no takers for it really either in Canada or Ind. There will be a reset only after the Canadian elections are over. And Trudeau is expected to lose badly, so a reset of ties after the election. Modi will call the new Canadian PM to Ind for a bearhug event and reset the ties :)
 
He always tries to be tough forgetting he is not an American.
Tried similar shenanigans with Saudi too got blocked immediately atleast the proof over there was all over the media.

Irrespective unlike Harper who made sure only deserving immigrants come to Canada and improved ties with India, Trudeau has done the exact opposite, allowed anyone to come to Canada without any qualification and has ruined ties with India.
 
deltexas said:
All this could have been dealt with diplomatically behind closed doors. The art of diplomacy was lost on Trudeau. And totally agree though as you say that Trudeau's a bit of an idiot and an opportunist, but for sure he's no madman. Compared to the other non elected world leaders. And as you say - the pseudo-Khalistani movement. Its a very minor fringe wing , no takers for it really either in Canada or Ind. There will be a reset only after the Canadian elections are over. And Trudeau is expected to lose badly, so a reset of ties after the election. Modi will call the new Canadian PM to Ind for a bearhug event and reset the ties :)
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Neither side comes out of this smelling like roses.

India's looked clumsy and ham-handed.
Canada's looking political and impetuous.

If as you say, Trudeau loses the upcoming election (I don't really follow Canadian politics), things should reset in a year or two.

If not, this estrangement can last a few years. Neither side can dignifiedly back down at this point. I don't expect severe issues but there will be some unfortunate side-effects - visas, trade, investment etc.
 
Sikh separatist claims Indian 'spy network' operates in US and Canada

Canada and the U.S. must get tougher on Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government for trying to silence dissidents on foreign soil, a controversial Sikh separatist who was the target of an alleged India-led murder plot said in an interview.

The U.S. Justice Department has unsealed indictments against two Indian nationals in connection with an alleged plot to kill Gurpatwant Singh Pannun, a dual U.S.-Canadian citizen, in New York. The two Indian accused included an ex-government official, who the indictment said worked as an intelligence officer at the time and had orchestrated the assassination plan.

Pannun told Reuters earlier this month that the Modi government should not be allowed to conduct hostile activity in foreign countries and said India's consulates in the U.S. and Canada were running a "spy network", although he did not provide any proof.

The U.S. and Canada "need to put their foot down that regimes like Modi's...should not be allowed to come to America or Canada, challenge their sovereignty and get away with it. They need to put their foot down and close (the consulates) permanently," he said.


 
JaDed said:
He always tries to be tough forgetting he is not an American.
Tried similar shenanigans with Saudi too got blocked immediately atleast the proof over there was all over the media.

Irrespective unlike Harper who made sure only deserving immigrants come to Canada and improved ties with India, Trudeau has done the exact opposite, allowed anyone to come to Canada without any qualification and has ruined ties with India.
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It's not acting tough to call out foreign govts carrying out assassinations on your territory. Any govt worth it's salt would object to this including your own.
 
JaDed said:
He always tries to be tough forgetting he is not an American.
Tried similar shenanigans with Saudi too got blocked immediately atleast the proof over there was all over the media.

Irrespective unlike Harper who made sure only deserving immigrants come to Canada and improved ties with India, Trudeau has done the exact opposite, allowed anyone to come to Canada without any qualification and has ruined ties with India.
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Are you saying Canada has no proof? LOL. Do you want them to send proof to you to your mailbox?

America also said similar things. See here --> https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/just...-indian-government-employee-connection-foiled.
 
JaDed said:
That’s an American citizen did you read the link you sent me, It’s not Nijjar.
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That link shows Indian government also tried to assassinate in United States. Similar thing Canada is saying.

Don't change the goal post. Be a man and acknowledge your country's shady activities on foreign soil.
 
sweep_shot said:
That link shows Indian government also tried to assassinate in United States. Similar thing Canada is saying.

Don't change the goal post. Be a man and acknowledge your country's shady activities on foreign soil.
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Similar thing Canada is saying? US talks about 100 similar things on Iran Turkey Saud , be a man do your research before pasting it.

Also next time you call out American conspiracy be ready for this link to be thrown your way.
 
US when it points to India- correct
US when it points to Palestine Turkey Pakistan- wrong wrong lol
 
sweep_shot said:
That link shows Indian government also tried to assassinate in United States. Similar thing Canada is saying.

Don't change the goal post. Be a man and acknowledge your country's shady activities on foreign soil.
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Ok, India organised the assassinations of all the anti-India thugs living abroad and will continue to do so. No one indulging in terrorism in India will be safe anywhere.

Enough? Now tell me what Canada, US or anyone else is going to do about this? Karlo jo karna hai.
 
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The regular Sikh’s are very embarrassed by the acts of Khalistanis. Bharat is too powerful and intelligent a country to combat such deep state propaganda but the immediate negative impact this has had on the sikh image worldwide will harm them in the longer run.

Khalistanis do not realise it but the white Canadian/American/European sees the entire Arabs, Subcontinental people as one group as unwanted immigrants. Yes they reserve additional phobia for the Muslim community but in a broader sense they have an unwelcoming attitude towards us all. When we fight amongst ourselves in a disgraceful manner as Khalistanis are trying to do, it leaders to more racism us all.

They’re just ensuring that no more people from Pakistan, Bharat are able to enter anymore in future
 
gani999 said:
Ok, India organised the assassinations of all the anti-India thugs living abroad and will continue to do so. No one indulging in terrorism in India will be safe anywhere. We'll find the m**erfu**er and dispatch him to hell where he belongs.

Enough? Now tell me what Canada, US or anyone else is going to do about this? Karlo jo karna hai.
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At best US can put some sanctions. If Trump wins, he will not ruin the relationship and business over a Khalistanis terrorist.

Canada can’t do anything other than cry to its friends in the west. The 5 eyes countries already ignored Trudeau’s crying about India.
 
Bhaijaan said:
The regular Sikh’s are very embarrassed by the acts of Khalistanis. Bharat is too powerful and intelligent a country to combat such deep state propaganda but the immediate negative impact this has had on the sikh image worldwide will harm them in the longer run.

Khalistanis do not realise it but the white Canadian/American/European sees the entire Arabs, Subcontinental people as one group as unwanted immigrants. Yes they reserve additional phobia for the Muslim community but in a broader sense they have an unwelcoming attitude towards us all. When we fight amongst ourselves in a disgraceful manner as Khalistanis are trying to do, it leaders to more racism us all.

They’re just ensuring that no more people from Pakistan, Bharat are able to enter anymore in future
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A couple of months ago, I attended a Ganesh Puja ceremony at my friends place. He invited a 2 of his Sikh friends from his work. They all attended with their families. The Sikh families were the first ones to do Aarti and sang Bhajans more than the Hindu families that attended.
Now I am not saying all Sikhs are this way. But the animosity is just stirred by the Khalistani types who want to drive a wedge between both communities.

Just goes to show, Sikhs are not same as khalistanis.
 
sweep_shot said:
That link shows Indian government also tried to assassinate in United States. Similar thing Canada is saying.

Don't change the goal post. Be a man and acknowledge your country's shady activities on foreign soil.
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US said that the person a ex GoI employee. A rogue he has been arrested before in other criminal activities.
 
Champ_Pal said:
At best US can put some sanctions. If Trump wins, he will not ruin the relationship and business over a Khalistanis terrorist.

Canada can’t do anything other than cry to its friends in the west. The 5 eyes countries already ignored Trudeau’s crying about India.
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US will not put any sanctions. Non whatsoever.

India is the last remaining major economic and military power that is maintaining neutrality. Any sanctions will put India firmly in the Russia-China axis.

Something even US cannot afford. Not for some Khalistanis.

China has started to mend its relationship with India after Putin put some sense in Xi.

US sanctions didn't break India in 1998. Little chance of they doing it now.
 
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