Alleged Indian government involvement in plots to assassinate Sikh separatists living in the West

[Local.Dada]

I love how Indian immigrants who fled to North America are now pretending they are not Indian.

Title of the thread should be changed, no longer alleged.

You think India is doing Mossad style assassinations against anti-Indian elements abroad and that too in “First world” countries. As cool as it sounds on paper, don’t think so though. Otherwise Canada would have had proof by now.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

I’m confused, do you believe Jagmeet Singh is a Khalistani? It seemed like you have an issue with him specifically. If this were Tom Mulcair or Jack Layton calling a press conference, would you have the same issue?

You are making a lot of assumptions and implications here. Just let me know what do you think my background is?

 

[offstump]

Neither is the RCMP able to share the evidence with the Canadian courts also, it seems.
They have already asked for 5 delays in the prosecution. If evidence is not ready for courts, how is it ready for anything else?

“It seems” or are you sure the evidence hasn’t been shared? You are now moving on to a different topic. Let’s first close the loop on your other concern which was no evidence has been shared. It’s clearly been stated that it has.

Having evidence ready for court is a different matter. The prosecutors are within their rights to ask for an extension and it could be for a myriad of reasons. A witness may be getting threatened, the evidence needs to be prepared to present to a jury etc etc. This is how a court works. You are making assumptions that have no basis.

 

[offstump]

You are making a lot of assumptions and implications here. Just let me know what do you think my background is?

What assumptions am I making? I’m asking questions. I’m testing these inferences based on what you have written.

 

[Technics 1210]

You think India is doing Mossad style assassinations against anti-Indian elements abroad and that too in “First world” countries. As cool as it sounds on paper, don’t think so though. Otherwise Canada would have had proof by now.

I think every government is involved in their own black ops somewhere around the world at any given moment; its just Indians pretend their government and RAW agency are squeaky clean and play by the book. Not the case as proven recently, Indian spies caught in Qatar, and now this.

You have to ask yourself if this is all false (and remember Canada is a member of the 5-eyes), then what does Canada gain by expelling 6 Indian diplomats?

 

[Local.Dada]

What assumptions am I making? I’m asking questions. I’m testing these inferences based on what you have written.

Forget all this back and forth- what’s the answer you want?

Did intelligence did it- pretty sure they did. They killed a wanted terrorist and criminal in their country still indulging in such activities.

Does Canada have any proof to tie it back to Indian government- No

Even if they did? What will happen? A war? Ok.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

“It seems” or are you sure the evidence hasn’t been shared. You are now moving on to a different topic. Let’s first close the loop on your other concern which was no evidence has been shared. It’s clearly been stated that it has.

Having evidence ready for court is a different matter. The prosecutors are within their rights to ask for an extension and it could be for a myriad of reasons. A witness may be getting threatened, the evidence needs to be prepared to present to a jury etc etc. This is how a court works. You are making assumptions that have no basis.

You are funny brother!!

Evidence that has been parroted by Trudeau which literally derails a major international relationship, costs Canadian economy millions if not billions, can be talked out openly but is not ready enough for a speedy trial.

What assumptions am I making? I’m asking questions. I’m testing these inferences based on what you have written.

There is a reason Jagmeet Singh has been denied visa by Indian govt in 2013 (Remember its wasn't Modi govt) for pro-Khalistani activities. An Anti-Indian is anti-Indian, whatever his name or skin color or religion maybe.
You have a lot of pre conceived notions and tendency to stretch them into conclusions of your own making.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

I think every government is involved in their own black ops somewhere around the world at any given moment; its just Indians pretend their government and RAW agency are squeaky clean and play by the book. Not the case as proven recently, Indian spies caught in Qatar, and now this.

You have to ask yourself if this is all false (and remember Canada is a member of the 5-eyes), then what does Canada gain by expelling 6 Indian diplomats?

Canada gains nothing. Its all loss. It is becoming the butt of jokes.
The only gain is for Trudeau as Jagmeet will allow him to stay in power for a bit longer.

 

[Local.Dada]

I think every government is involved in their own black ops somewhere around the world at any given moment; its just Indians pretend their government and RAW agency are squeaky clean and play by the book. Not the case as proven recently, Indian spies caught in Qatar, and now this.

You have to ask yourself if this is all false (and remember Canada is a member of the 5-eyes), then what does Canada gain by expelling 6 Indian diplomats?

India expelled the Canadian diplomats too and called all allegations irrational and foolish. I will believe Indias word because it’s my government, you can hold on to Canada’s word just because you have nothing else to do but hate India. No issues there.

If India did it- great. They knocked a wanted terrorist. If they say didn’t - i will believe them till I see proof.

 

[offstump]

Forget all this back and forth- what’s the answer you want?

Did intelligence did it- pretty sure they did. They killed a wanted terrorist and criminal in their country still indulging in such activities.

Does Canada have any proof to tie it back to Indian government- No

Even if they did? What will happen? A war? Ok.

Excellent, let’s stop the back and forth but you are conveniently ignoring the fact that evidence has been shared. It was literally stated it ties back to the Indian government which is why 6 Indian diplomats have been duly deported.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Canada gains nothing. Its all loss. It is becoming the butt of jokes.
The only gain is for Trudeau as Jagmeet will allow him to stay in power for a bit longer.

BJP won Haryana elections last week. You know despite farmers protest.

 

[Technics 1210]

India expelled the Canadian diplomats too and called anllegations irrational and foolish. I will believe Indias word because it’s my government, you can hold on to Canada’s word just because you have nothing else to do but hate India. No issues there.

If India did it- great. They knocked a wanted terrorist. If they say didn’t - i will believe them till I see proof.

I don't hold onto any word, the fact the Indian government is dragged through the mud everyday of the week makes great entertainment for billions around the world.

I hate Hindutva, not India. You will learn the difference when you have a permanent residency in the West.

 

[offstump]

You are funny brother!!

Evidence that has been parroted by Trudeau which literally derails a major international relationship, costs Canadian economy millions if not billions, can be talked out openly but is not ready enough for a speedy trial.

There is a reason Jagmeet Singh has been denied visa by Indian govt in 2013 (Remember its wasn't Modi govt) for pro-Khalistani activities. An Anti-Indian is anti-Indian, whatever his name or skin color or religion maybe.
You have a lot of pre conceived notions and tendency to stretch them into conclusions of your own making.

It’s good to see I made you laugh. Humour can be helpful when coping with reality.

 

[Local.Dada]

Excellent, let’s stop the back and forth but you are conventionally ignoring the fact that evidence has been shared. It was literally stated it ties back to the Indian government which is why 6 Indian diplomats have been duly deported.

And Indian government said this is foolish allegation and did the same to Canadian diplomats. Is there are 3rd party that has seen this shared proof?

 

[offstump]

And Indian government said this is foolish allegation and did the same to Canadian diplomats. Is there are 3rd party that has seen this shared proof?

“From the beginning, as of last summer, we've worked closely with our Five Eyes partners, particularly with the United States, where they have gone through a similar pattern of behaviour from India in regards to an attempted extrajudicial killing, Trudeau told reporters at a news conference in Ottawa.”

 

[cricketjoshila]

Excellent, let’s stop the back and forth but you are conventionally ignoring the fact that evidence has been shared. It was literally stated it ties back to the Indian government which is why 6 Indian diplomats have been duly deported.

1. No Indian diplomat was deported. India had recalled them and expelled 6 Canadian diplomats. Canada tried to save face by expelling diplomats already recalled.

2. Evidence Canada claims it has. GoI says no evidence.

3. If Canada put any surveillance on Indian diplomats it will be violating the Vienna protocol. Canada will not be able to present this evidence anywhere.

That's why Canada is doing all the dance.

 

[Technics 1210]

I wonder if the Hindutva cult holds the USA government to such high standards when they claimed to have captured OBL, or report when so and so was responsible?

Of course not, the Hindutva breed comes into full force because of the hatred towards Islam, at which point anything the West says is Gospel truth up to the point India is mentioned.

One thing you are guaranteed to never find in India, high quality products, not even RAW agents are up to standard, they keep getting caught!

 

[Local.Dada]

“From the beginning, as of last summer, we've worked closely with our Five Eyes partners, particularly with the United States, where they have gone through a similar pattern of behaviour from India in regards to an attempted extrajudicial killing, Trudeau told reporters at a news conference in Ottawa.”

Can you tell me which court of law “pattern of behavior” is considered proof?

Suspicion- May be. I also suspect Indian intelligence did it.

Proof- NO

 

[cricketjoshila]

“From the beginning, as of last summer, we've worked closely with our Five Eyes partners, particularly with the United States, where they have gone through a similar pattern of behaviour from India in regards to an attempted extrajudicial killing, Trudeau told reporters at a news conference in Ottawa.”

Again it's Canada's version.

 

[HalBass9]

“From the beginning, as of last summer, we've worked closely with our Five Eyes partners, particularly with the United States, where they have gone through a similar pattern of behaviour from India in regards to an attempted extrajudicial killing, Trudeau told reporters at a news conference in Ottawa.”

If the Five eyes were to praise Modi then dada of India would be bending over to touch the charnas of 5 eyes

 

[cricketjoshila]

Can you tell me which court of law “pattern of behavior” is considered proof?

Suspicion- May be. I also suspect Indian intelligence did it.

Proof- NO

There won't be any proof.

I don't think intelligence did it. But they knew this was happening and let it happen. Told nothing to the Canadians.

If diplomats were involved, there won't be any proof. Nothing collected by means of surveillance against diplomats will be admissible.

Basically Trudeau can dance all he want.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If the Five eyes were to praise Modi then dada of India would be bending over to touch the charnas of 5 eyes

Pakistani PM samjha hai kya.

 

[HalBass9]

When proponents of Hindutva begin demanding proof, it becomes evident that they believe their diplomats were involved in the killing of civilians and acts of terrorism. However, they are reluctant to publicly acknowledge this because they understand they lack the same immunity to accusations of terrorism as some Western nations, despite being the world’s fifth-largest economy and part of a Western-aligned nexus in their region, particularly in opposition to their neighboring country.

India, as part of the Global South, will never fully be considered ‘Western’ by Western nations, no matter its efforts.

Whoever is at helm had to do that press conference to reveal it to public. It’s not a publicity stunt nor it help any Canadian politicians to gain political mileage.

 

[HalBass9]

Pakistani PM samjha hai kya.

Cool reply bro.

 

[sweep_shot]

When proponents of Hindutva begin demanding proof, it becomes evident that they believe their diplomats were involved in the killing of civilians and acts of terrorism. However, they are reluctant to publicly acknowledge this because they understand they lack the same immunity to accusations of terrorism as some Western nations, despite being the world’s fifth-largest economy and part of a Western-aligned nexus in their region, particularly in opposition to their neighboring country.

India, as part of the Global South, will never fully be considered ‘Western’ by Western nations, no matter its efforts.

Whoever is at helm had to do that press conference to reveal it to public. It’s not a publicity stunt nor it help any Canadian politicians to gain political mileage.

Exactly.

If RCMP made a statement against Palestine, Indian posters probably would've accepted it without a second thought.

But, since RCMP made comments against Indian government, these Indian posters suddenly need proofs.

Comical hypocrisy.

 

[Champ_Pal]

In a way proud of RAW, scaring the crap out of terror networks outside India.

I have to agree. This is not Gabdhi’s India which sits down and takes it like a you know what.

Taking out terrorists on foreign soils is novelty for most Indians and people with Indian connections.

 

[RexRex]

I have to agree. This is not Gabdhi’s India which sits down and takes it like a you know what.

Taking out terrorists on foreign soils is novelty for most Indians and people with Indian connections.

It won't be long before Modi starts targetting his indian critics and then laughing it off by accusing them of being 'terrorists'. Be careful what you wish for. Don't blindly believe everything a politician says or does.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It won't be long before Modi starts targetting his indian critics and then laughing it off by accusing them of being 'terrorists'. Be careful what you wish for. Don't blindly believe everything a politician says or does.

Khalistanis need to be tackled. Modi doesn't need to say this. Every Indian is aware of it.

 

[RexRex]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846016516212330980

 

[Champ_Pal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846016516212330980

Sikh activists?

They are terrorists. These days every terrorist masquerades as an activist and western governments fall for their fake tears. Of course they also know the reality behind hen. But they are useful idiots as they form part of their vote bank.

Anyways, the real question is, why is Canada jeopardizing the relations with a huge democracy like India over these Khalistani Terrorists?

 

[Technics 1210]

Exactly.

If RCMP made a statement against Palestine, Indian posters probably would've accepted it without a second thought.

But, since RCMP made comments against Indian government, these Indian posters suddenly need proofs.

Comical hypocrisy.

This is precisely why there is zilch integrity and consistency in any of the Hindutva cult opinions.

 

[sweep_shot]

This is precisely why there is zilch integrity and consistency in any of the Hindutva cult opinions.

They expect others to condemn bad things but they themselves don't condemn bad things done by their own kind.

They are like zombies without principles.

 

[RexRex]

Anyways, the real question is, why is Canada jeopardizing the relations with a huge democracy like India over these Khalistani Terrorists?

But Canada doesn't see them as 'terrorists', they are citizens who have rights. In Canada, you are allowed to advocate for separatism, it doesn't go against their free speech laws.

 

[Hitman]

Sikh activists?

They are terrorists. These days every terrorist masquerades as an activist and western governments fall for their fake tears. Of course they also know the reality behind hen. But they are useful idiots as they form part of their vote bank.

Anyways, the real question is, why is Canada jeopardizing the relations with a huge democracy like India over these Khalistani Terrorists?

These jihadis would probably call those from Al Qaeda, ISIS and Taliban activists as well.

 

[Champ_Pal]

But Canada doesn't see them as 'terrorists', they are citizens who have rights. In Canada, you are allowed to advocate for separatism, it doesn't go aagainst their free speech laws.

It’s not India’s problem. India does not care how Canada perceives them. Khalistanis are a threat to Indian national security and India will do everything in its power to neutralize them.

All of this shows where these woke western nations stand on terrorism.

 

[RexRex]

It’s not India’s problem. India does not care how Canada perceives them.

So if two countries disagree on something, the solution is for one country to go to another country's territory and kill their citizens ? India isn't the USA.

Atleast with Pakistan there is a history of actual terrorism and numerous wars. You can point to incidents like 26/11 or Kashmir infiltrations. India going after them makes sense. But there is no such equivalence with Canada , atleast in recent times.

 

[HalBass9]

Sikh activists?

They are terrorists. These days every terrorist masquerades as an activist and western governments fall for their fake tears. Of course they also know the reality behind hen. But they are useful idiots as they form part of their vote bank.

Anyways, the real question is, why is Canada jeopardizing the relations with a huge democracy like India over these Khalistani Terrorists?

During this forum, representatives of Hindutva clearly articulated that for an entity to be officially recognized as a terrorist organization, it must be sanctioned by the United Nations.

 

[offstump]

Exactly.

If RCMP made a statement against Palestine, Indian posters probably would've accepted it without a second thought.

But, since RCMP made comments against Indian government, these Indian posters suddenly need proofs.

Comical hypocrisy.

Great point. I will hand it to the Indian government, their statements are very intentional because they’re designed to be impossible to counter in the public realm, hence their rabid supporters, who can’t look at things objectively are more than happy to jump behind their keyboards and defend their regime.

The Canadian public was informed because there is a threat to Canadians. On top of that the RCMP has been issuing warnings to south asians in Canada that their lives are in danger. The police in Canada don’t go around doing that unless a threat is credible. Canada has also sent envoys to present the evidence to the Indians but they’ve come back with an outlandish statement that looks like it was run through ChatGPT to save face. They are exposed and they know it.

It’s ironic how Indians proclaiming their country is the world’s largest democracy, are now advocating and celebrating the murder of foreign citizens through the use of organized criminals in Canada. No surprise though as Modi and co are a Hindutva regime persecuting Muslims and Sikhs inside and outside of Canada. Case in point these murders on Canadian soil which posters are celebrating under the guise of “they’re Khalistanis and against India.” Every Canadian has freedom to express their views, the rule of law is supreme in Canada and that’s why these things go before the courts. Of course most Indians think they can just Akshay Kumar across the ocean to perform assassinations and then laugh about it. Trying to circumvent another country’s legal system is ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as claiming this is some sort of political stunt by Trudeau and the government to win an election. Firstly, you’d have to be of low intelligence to think a PM in Canada can influence the national police force to win votes, and that too those votes impacting a national election through a “Khalistani-Canadian vote bank.” Indians are looking at Canada through their only lens, the only way they know how to look at things: Pakistan. Let me assure you, Canada is not Pakistan.

Now I’ll wait for some low grade responses with a meme or two, a couple of emojis, someone asking “have you personally seen the evidence” and the list goes on.

 

[Technics 1210]

Remember folks, Canada once banned exports of uranium and nuclear hardware to India in the 1970s after India used Canadian technology to develop a nuclear bomb instead of nuclear energy for the Indian masses!

Canada can never trust the Indian government, ever.

 

[sweep_shot]

Great point. I will hand it to the Indian government, their statements are very intentional because they’re designed to be impossible to counter in the public realm, hence their rabid supporters, who can’t look at things objectively are more than happy to jump behind their keyboards and defend their regime.

The Canadian public was informed because there is a threat to Canadians. On top of that the RCMP has been issuing warnings to south asians in Canada that their lives are in danger. The police in Canada don’t go around doing that unless a threat is credible. Canada has also sent envoys to present the evidence to the Indians but they’ve come back with an outlandish statement that looks like it was run through ChatGPT to save face. They are exposed and they know it.

It’s ironic how Indians proclaiming their country is the world’s largest democracy, are now advocating and celebrating the murder of foreign citizens through the use of organized criminals in Canada. No surprise though as Modi and co are a Hindutva regime persecuting Muslims and Sikhs inside and outside of Canada. Case in point these murders on Canadian soil which posters are celebrating under the guise of “they’re Khalistanis and against India.” Every Canadian has freedom to express their views, the rule of law is supreme in Canada and that’s why these things go before the courts. Of course most Indians think they can just Akshay Kumar across the ocean to perform assassinations and then laugh about it. Trying to circumvent another country’s legal system is ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as claiming this is some sort of political stunt by Trudeau and the government to win an election. Firstly, you’d have to be of low intelligence to think a PM in Canada can influence the national police force to win votes, and that too those votes impacting a national election through a “Khalistani-Canadian vote bank.” Indians are looking at Canada through their only lens, the only way they know how to look at things: Pakistan. Let me assure you, Canada is not Pakistan.

Now I’ll wait for some low grade responses with a meme or two, a couple of emojis, someone asking “have you personally seen the evidence” and the list goes on.

Top post. POTW for me.

I also expect Indian posters to ridicule/attack you now like they do to me. LOL.

 

[sweep_shot]

Remember folks, Canada once banned exports of uranium and nuclear hardware to India in the 1970s after India used Canadian technology to develop a nuclear bomb instead of nuclear energy for the Indian masses!

Canada can never trust the Indian government, ever.

Yes. That was a big stab in the back.

Canada should've learned from it.

 

[Technics 1210]

Yes. That was a big stab in the back.

Can anyone really trust India?

With a 5000 year vendetta, absolutely no.

 

[Hitman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846226333073870957

 

[offstump]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846283904912969738

 

[HalBass9]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846226333073870957

That mean every Indian who entered Canada illegally is a terrorist?

Indians happen to be the 3rd on the list entering illegally into USA.

Damn Indian terrorists.

 

[HalBass9]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846226333073870957

To Canadian on this forum, do you all recognize this YouTuber reporter? Is he well known in Canada because it seem Hindutva are digging the bottom of the barrel to find any non-Hindutva white person labeling Indian Canadian as terrorists.

Desparate much

 

[sweep_shot]

To Canadian on this forum, do you all recognize this YouTuber reporter? Is he well known in Canada because it seem Hindutva are digging the bottom of the barrel to find any non-Hindutva white person labeling Indian Canadian as terrorists.

Desparate much

LOL. Never heard of him. Not a popular figure.

Anyway, the guy seems like a right-wing guy. No wonder why @Hitman quoted him.

 

[offstump]

To Canadian on this forum, do you all recognize this YouTuber reporter? Is he well known in Canada because it seem Hindutva are digging the bottom of the barrel to find any non-Hindutva white person labeling Indian Canadian as terrorists.

Desparate much

He’s not even a reporter or affiliated with any media outlet. During Covid he was posting all kinds of conspiracy theories and vile right wing hatred. “Pleb” is a dog whistle word in right wing circles. Anyone who is retweeting or posting things from this person cannot be taken seriously.

 

[Champ_Pal]

So if two countries disagree on something, the solution is for one country to go to another country's territory and kill their citizens ? India isn't the USA.

Atleast with Pakistan there is a history of actual terrorism and numerous wars. You can point to incidents like 26/11 or Kashmir infiltrations. India going after them makes sense. But there is no such equivalence with Canada , atleast in recent times.

India does not have any issue with Canada. The issue is only with Khalistani terrorists who have made Canada their hub to launch their dastardly activities in India.


There is still no evidence that India is involved in his killing. All we hear is evidence this and evidence that. Indian government is still waiting on Trudeau to provide that credible evidence he keeps talking about.

 

[Champ_Pal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846226333073870957

He was just an activist and that is a Leo Toy gun.

Canada deserves these bottom of the barrel vermins. They will eventually bite Canada in the future.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Captain Amarinder Singh the former Congress CM of Punjab includes Nijjar in his most wanted list for spreading terrorism in Punjab. Nijjar was a member of Khalistan Tiger Force and works with Babbar Khalsa. A Terrorist group that was banned even by USA.

But somehow Canada thinks that Nijjar was just an activist

Remember, it was Canada that escalated the row by expelling Indian diplomats. India responded by expelling Canadian diplomats.

Canada is ruining its relations with India over a terrorist and that too with no proper evidence. Trudeau is a Tru Clown.

 

[sweep_shot]

Captain Amarinder Singh the former Congress CM of Punjab includes Nijjar in his most wanted list for spreading terrorism in Punjab. Nijjar was a member of Khalistan Tiger Force and works with Babbar Khalsa. A Terrorist group that was banned even by USA.

But somehow Canada thinks that Nijjar was just an activist

Remember, it was Canada that escalated the row by expelling Indian diplomats. India responded by expelling Canadian diplomats.

Canada is ruining its relations with India over a terrorist and that too with no proper evidence. Trudeau is a Tru Clown.

Actually, it is more than just Nijjar. There were other accusations like homicides, extortions etc.

Canada rightfully expelled the Indian diplomats. As a matter of fact, I think Canada should take further actions.

Anyway, read the article below:

"In a stunning news conference Monday, the head of the RCMP accused the Indian government of playing a role in "widespread violence" in Canada, including homicides, and warned that it poses "a serious threat to our public safety."

Commissioner Mike Duheme laid out the national police force's allegations just hours after Canada expelled six Indian diplomats. India quickly retaliated, ordering six Canadian diplomats leave the country within a week.

"The team has learned a significant amount of information about the breadth and depth of criminal activity orchestrated by agents of the government of India and consequential threats to the safety and security of Canadians and individuals living in Canada," Duheme said during a rare news conference at RCMP headquarters on Thanksgiving Monday.

"Despite law enforcement's actions, the harm has continued, posing a serious threat to our public safety."

Duheme said his officers, working with other law enforcement agencies, have obtained evidence linking Indian government agents to homicides and other violent acts in Canada, including coercion and extortion.

The commissioner said there have been "well over a dozen" credible and imminent threats to members of the South Asian community, specifically members of the pro-Khalistan movement.

Duheme told reporters in Ottawa that Mounties have also collected evidence showing that Indian diplomats and consular officials based in Canada leveraged their official positions to engage in clandestine activities, such as collecting information for the government of India, either directly or through their proxies and other individuals who acted voluntarily or through coercion."

Source: CBC News.

 

[offstump]

Quite ironic given what’s happening currently. Good work by Mr . Sajjan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846357138480005566

 

[JaDed]

Quite ironic given what’s happening currently. Good work by Mr . Sajjan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846357138480005566

Considering they have bombed an air India flight where bomb was placed in BC this is the least they can do, it’s not the 80s that they will get away with bombing Indian planes with Canadian citizens.

 

[Red-Indian]

India does not have any issue with Canada. The issue is only with Khalistani terrorists who have made Canada their hub to launch their dastardly activities in India.


There is still no evidence that India is involved in his killing. All we hear is evidence this and evidence that. Indian government is still waiting on Trudeau to provide that credible evidence he keeps talking about.

What dastardly activities dude? Can you point me to 2-3 Khalistan related terrorist attacks in India in the last 5 years?

This is a bit like the UK trying to assassinate ex-IRA members hiding in Boston drinking themselves silly and boasting of being freedom fighters.

The more I think about it, I feel convinced that this misadventure was initiated by some ex-congress guy in the BJP government/bureaucracy who's grown up in the 80s and is obsessed by Indira Gandhi's assassination is still stuck on the Khalistan movement being the biggest security risk to India's integrity.

 

[offstump]

Considering they have bombed an air India flight where bomb was placed in BC this is the least they can do, it’s not the 80s that they will get away with bombing Indian planes with Canadian citizens.

Ok, this is a bombshell. Canada just tried to bomb an Air India flight flying over their airspace, but then had second thoughts so they advised the pilots to land the plane and called in the military to help get the passengers to Chicago, albeit slightly delayed. Please send all your “proof” which you have harped about repeatedly to all major news outlets.

 

[JaDed]

Ok, this is a bombshell. Canada just tried to bomb an Air India flight flying over their airspace, but then had second thoughts so they advised the pilots to land the plane and called in the military to help get the passengers to Chicago, albeit slightly delayed. Please send all your “proof” which you have harped about repeatedly to all major news outlets.

The one in 1985.. the most expensive trial in Canadian history because they didn’t listen even then.

 

[sweep_shot]

Considering they have bombed an air India flight where bomb was placed in BC this is the least they can do, it’s not the 80s that they will get away with bombing Indian planes with Canadian citizens.

You are losing it.

Did you just accuse Canada of bombing an Indian plane? LOL.

I guess this is what blind nationalism looks like.

 

[JaDed]

What dastardly activities dude? Can you point me to 2-3 Khalistan related terrorist attacks in India in the last 5 years?

This is a bit like the UK trying to assassinate ex-IRA members hiding in Boston drinking themselves silly and boasting of being freedom fighters.

The more I think about it, I feel convinced that this misadventure was initiated by some ex-congress guy in the BJP government/bureaucracy who's grown up in the 80s and is obsessed by Indira Gandhi's assassination is still stuck on the Khalistan movement being the biggest security risk to India's integrity.

Unfortunately you are underestimating this to a great extent, I’m a Punjabi myself with Sikhs in extended family , the area around BC, GTA is extremely radicalised, Canada is actually blaming India for running the Punjabi gangs but actually they have been involved in organised crime since 1980s.
Drugs is rampant among Punjabis esp Jatts.

 

[Hitman]

You are losing it.

Did you just accuse Canada of bombing an Indian plane? LOL.

I guess this is what blind nationalism looks like.

He meant that Khalistani terrorists bombed an Indian passenger plane.

 

[JaDed]

You are losing it.

Did you just accuse Canada of bombing an Indian plane? LOL.

I guess this is what blind nationalism looks like.

Sure sparky , I’m saying due to Canada not listening before they allowed Canadians to bomb an Indian plane..

 

[JaDed]

Imo India should let it be move out diplomats let the Canadian liberals and alt Liberals ban GOI.
But just acknowledge that Khalistanis are their citizens and not blame India later on or Indians in Canada for the crime.

 

[Red-Indian]

Unfortunately you are underestimating this to a great extent, I’m a Punjabi myself with Sikhs in extended family , the area around BC, GTA is extremely radicalised, Canada is actually blaming India for running the Punjabi gangs but actually they have been involved in organised crime since 1980s.
Drugs is rampant among Punjabis esp Jatts.

I read something about that. It's Canada's problem if they let these stupid gangs run riot. Not India's...we shouldn't be trying to solve their problems with assassinations.

If I'm being charitable, maybe the Indian intelligence authorities thought they were trying to nip a potential problem in the bud by getting of guys who could possibly revive the movement in India. If so, I'd call it extremely naive - both in terms of motive and execution.

There are certain unwritten rules to this stuff - spy on friendly nations all you want but if you're going to take direct action, you better be very, very good at it - Israel level good. China and Russia do lot of this...harassing and killing dissidents. I don't think we need to sink so low - especially when the threat is not imminent.

 

[sweep_shot]

Imo India should let it be move out diplomats let the Canadian liberals and alt Liberals ban GOI.
But just acknowledge that Khalistanis are their citizens and not blame India later on or Indians in Canada for the crime.

Are you saying only Khalistanis commit crimes? LOL.

There are non-Khalistani Indians who commit crimes also.

 

[JaDed]

I read something about that. It's Canada's problem if they let these stupid gangs run riot. Not India's...we shouldn't be trying to solve their problems with assassinations.

If I'm being charitable, maybe the Indian intelligence authorities thought they were trying to nip a potential problem in the bud by getting of guys who could possibly revive the movement in India. If so, I'd call it extremely naive - both in terms of motive and execution.

There are certain unwritten rules to this stuff - spy on friendly nations all you want but if you're going to take direct action, you better be very, very good at it - Israel level good. China and Russia do lot of this...harassing and killing dissidents. I don't think we need to sink so low - especially when the threat is not imminent.

I completely agree GOI should not attack citizens that are creating criminal empire in west.

Unfortunately it’s not that straightforward, our links to Punjab, Delhi , Haryana is very strong.

I’m guessing you are from Mumbai-Maha, it’s not the same, we have family oriented businesses that transcend borders from Canada West coast and UK Aus, which leads to heavy influx on blue collar opaque trade practices.

 

[sweep_shot]

Why are we going in circles?

The article is pretty self-explanatory. How many times do I have to post the article? Indian government was accused of engaging in violent activities on Canadian soil. What's so hard to understand here?

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"In a stunning news conference Monday, the head of the RCMP accused the Indian government of playing a role in "widespread violence" in Canada, including homicides, and warned that it poses "a serious threat to our public safety."

Commissioner Mike Duheme laid out the national police force's allegations just hours after Canada expelled six Indian diplomats. India quickly retaliated, ordering six Canadian diplomats leave the country within a week.

"The team has learned a significant amount of information about the breadth and depth of criminal activity orchestrated by agents of the government of India and consequential threats to the safety and security of Canadians and individuals living in Canada," Duheme said during a rare news conference at RCMP headquarters on Thanksgiving Monday.

"Despite law enforcement's actions, the harm has continued, posing a serious threat to our public safety."

Duheme said his officers, working with other law enforcement agencies, have obtained evidence linking Indian government agents to homicides and other violent acts in Canada, including coercion and extortion.

The commissioner said there have been "well over a dozen" credible and imminent threats to members of the South Asian community, specifically members of the pro-Khalistan movement.

Duheme told reporters in Ottawa that Mounties have also collected evidence showing that Indian diplomats and consular officials based in Canada leveraged their official positions to engage in clandestine activities, such as collecting information for the government of India, either directly or through their proxies and other individuals who acted voluntarily or through coercion."

Source: CBC News.

 

[cricketjoshila]

What dastardly activities dude? Can you point me to 2-3 Khalistan related terrorist attacks in India in the last 5 years?

This is a bit like the UK trying to assassinate ex-IRA members hiding in Boston drinking themselves silly and boasting of being freedom fighters.

The more I think about it, I feel convinced that this misadventure was initiated by some ex-congress guy in the BJP government/bureaucracy who's grown up in the 80s and is obsessed by Indira Gandhi's assassination is still stuck on the Khalistan movement being the biggest security risk to India's integrity.

Government should have waited for a terrorist attack to take place?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why are we going in circles?

The article is pretty self-explanatory. How many times do I have to post the article? Indian government was accused of engaging in violent activities on Canadian soil. What's so hard to understand here?

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"In a stunning news conference Monday, the head of the RCMP accused the Indian government of playing a role in "widespread violence" in Canada, including homicides, and warned that it poses "a serious threat to our public safety."

Commissioner Mike Duheme laid out the national police force's allegations just hours after Canada expelled six Indian diplomats. India quickly retaliated, ordering six Canadian diplomats leave the country within a week.

"The team has learned a significant amount of information about the breadth and depth of criminal activity orchestrated by agents of the government of India and consequential threats to the safety and security of Canadians and individuals living in Canada," Duheme said during a rare news conference at RCMP headquarters on Thanksgiving Monday.

"Despite law enforcement's actions, the harm has continued, posing a serious threat to our public safety."

Duheme said his officers, working with other law enforcement agencies, have obtained evidence linking Indian government agents to homicides and other violent acts in Canada, including coercion and extortion.

The commissioner said there have been "well over a dozen" credible and imminent threats to members of the South Asian community, specifically members of the pro-Khalistan movement.

Duheme told reporters in Ottawa that Mounties have also collected evidence showing that Indian diplomats and consular officials based in Canada leveraged their official positions to engage in clandestine activities, such as collecting information for the government of India, either directly or through their proxies and other individuals who acted voluntarily or through coercion."

Source: CBC News.

Regurgitating Canadian propoganda won't make it true.

 

[JaDed]

Why are we going in circles?

The article is pretty self-explanatory. How many times do I have to post the article? Indian government was accused of engaging in violent activities on Canadian soil. What's so hard to understand here?

=================================================

"In a stunning news conference Monday, the head of the RCMP accused the Indian government of playing a role in "widespread violence" in Canada, including homicides, and warned that it poses "a serious threat to our public safety."

Commissioner Mike Duheme laid out the national police force's allegations just hours after Canada expelled six Indian diplomats. India quickly retaliated, ordering six Canadian diplomats leave the country within a week.

"The team has learned a significant amount of information about the breadth and depth of criminal activity orchestrated by agents of the government of India and consequential threats to the safety and security of Canadians and individuals living in Canada," Duheme said during a rare news conference at RCMP headquarters on Thanksgiving Monday.

"Despite law enforcement's actions, the harm has continued, posing a serious threat to our public safety."

Duheme said his officers, working with other law enforcement agencies, have obtained evidence linking Indian government agents to homicides and other violent acts in Canada, including coercion and extortion.

The commissioner said there have been "well over a dozen" credible and imminent threats to members of the South Asian community, specifically members of the pro-Khalistan movement.

Duheme told reporters in Ottawa that Mounties have also collected evidence showing that Indian diplomats and consular officials based in Canada leveraged their official positions to engage in clandestine activities, such as collecting information for the government of India, either directly or through their proxies and other individuals who acted voluntarily or through coercion."

Source: CBC News.

This is exactly what I have been saying the proof given for banning either the Palestinian charity or against Indian diplomats is just with them, so I’m guessing you agree with both and thats fair , I just don’t agree with their accusations on PALESTENIAN charity or Indian diplomats, as simple as that.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Are you saying only Khalistanis commit crimes? LOL.

There are non-Khalistani Indians who commit crimes also.

Khalistanis are not just criminals, they are terrorists.

They bombed an airplane much before Al Qaeda.

Are you supporting these terrorists?

 

[sweep_shot]

A great documentary from Al-Jazeera regarding Indian shady tactics in USA and Canada:

 

[Hitman]

Khalistanis are not just criminals, they are terrorists.

They bombed an airplane much before Al Qaeda.

Are you supporting these terrorists?

Anyone who is anti India or wants to damage India can't be a terrorist in their eyes. Heck, they even defend Hafeez Saeed, a globally recognised terrorist.

 

[Red-Indian]

I completely agree GOI should not attack citizens that are creating criminal empire in west.

Unfortunately it’s not that straightforward, our links to Punjab, Delhi , Haryana is very strong.

I’m guessing you are from Mumbai-Maha, it’s not the same, we have family oriented businesses that transcend borders from Canada West coast and UK Aus, which leads to heavy influx on blue collar opaque trade practices.

Good guess. Yes I've grown up in Bombay.

I'm not denying extra-legal interventions are needed in other countries on rare occasions. The US used to assassinate drug lords in Colombia. Pakistan wasn't going to be giving up known terrorists acting against India. Israel had to take out the folks involved in the Munich massacre.

However, there's a difference between acting in Pakistan, Lebanon or Colombia and acting in Canada. We need to get a lot better at spying and have evidence of an imminent threat before we try something like that again. The attempt in the States was like something out of a comedy skit.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Great point. I will hand it to the Indian government, their statements are very intentional because they’re designed to be impossible to counter in the public realm, hence their rabid supporters, who can’t look at things objectively are more than happy to jump behind their keyboards and defend their regime.

The Canadian public was informed because there is a threat to Canadians. On top of that the RCMP has been issuing warnings to south asians in Canada that their lives are in danger. The police in Canada don’t go around doing that unless a threat is credible. Canada has also sent envoys to present the evidence to the Indians but they’ve come back with an outlandish statement that looks like it was run through ChatGPT to save face. They are exposed and they know it.

It’s ironic how Indians proclaiming their country is the world’s largest democracy, are now advocating and celebrating the murder of foreign citizens through the use of organized criminals in Canada. No surprise though as Modi and co are a Hindutva regime persecuting Muslims and Sikhs inside and outside of Canada. Case in point these murders on Canadian soil which posters are celebrating under the guise of “they’re Khalistanis and against India.” Every Canadian has freedom to express their views, the rule of law is supreme in Canada and that’s why these things go before the courts. Of course most Indians think they can just Akshay Kumar across the ocean to perform assassinations and then laugh about it. Trying to circumvent another country’s legal system is ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as claiming this is some sort of political stunt by Trudeau and the government to win an election. Firstly, you’d have to be of low intelligence to think a PM in Canada can influence the national police force to win votes, and that too those votes impacting a national election through a “Khalistani-Canadian vote bank.” Indians are looking at Canada through their only lens, the only way they know how to look at things: Pakistan. Let me assure you, Canada is not Pakistan.

Now I’ll wait for some low grade responses with a meme or two, a couple of emojis, someone asking “have you personally seen the evidence” and the list goes on.

Is there anything other than statements by the Trudeau government?

There are statements and then there is proof. Two different things.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Anyone who is anti India or wants to damage India can't be a terrorist in their eyes. Heck, they even defend Hafeez Saeed, a globally recognised terrorist.

Ofcourse. That's well known.

 

[HARKS]

Why is so much discussion ,in the end we know everything will go after next year elections, same set of people have gone mumbo jumbo when Qatar arrested 8 people but gone silent once they are released. Everyone here knows that this will follow same route as Qatar saga and same set of people will run with tail between their legs shouting .

 

[BouncerGuy]

No talks about citizenships and irrelevant stuff.

 

[Hitman]

Ofcourse. That's well known.

If it were the 80's and the 90's, they'd call ULFA in my state a freedom movement, and how they were fully justified in all the terrorist activities in Assam because they were fighting for us Assamese people.

So glad that they were squashed like the dirty insects that they were. We Assamese people loved it like anything.

 

[Hikaru]

Modi's agents are usually cowards, hiding behind diplomatic immunity and gangsters. Baniya mentality, afraid of Jatts.

Whatever that mentality is, Baniyas are still a blessing to the nation. As for the paindu group you mentioned, everyone should be afraid of them. I lock the car doors when I see a bunch of them in our civilized neighborhood.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Not at all. I often acknowledge good things about west. However, I have also criticized at times. There is a thing called freedom of speech here.

This is a common misconception among Indian posters here. Just because Muslims don't like policies which result in harm to Muslim countries where they have ancestral ties, does not mean they hate all things western. Otherwise why would they move there?