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BJP cooks up row over Bollywood film romance ahead of key poll

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...wood-film-romance-ahead-of-key-poll-gfd5qm935

A hotly anticipated Bollywood blockbuster has found itself the focus of a political row, with India’s ruling party demanding that its release is delayed because it could inflame religious tensions before elections next month.

Padmavati, a sweeping historical epic about a 14th-century queen of legendary beauty, is set to hit screens across India on December 1. It stars one of India’s hottest celebrity couples but has been dogged by controversy, with sets burnt down and its director assaulted.

To the fury of filmmakers and political opponents, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) claims that historical inaccuracies in the film could sway elections in western Gujarat, the home state of Narendra Modi, the prime minister. The party has demanded that the film’s release be delayed until after polls close in mid-December.

Starring Deepika Padukone as the eponymous Rajput queen and her real-life partner Ranveer Singh as a marauding Muslim sultan, Padmavati retells events of 1303, when Alauddin Khalji, the Sultan of Delhi, laid siege to Chittor Fort in Rajasthan, obsessed by tales of Padmavati’s beauty and determined to claim her for himself. With her husband killed in a duel and the fort poised to fall, Padmavati self-immolated rather than fall into Khalji’s clutches.

Much of the Padmavati legend is disputed by historians but she remains a symbol of Indian patriotism and is revered by Hindu nationalists for preserving her honour before the invading Muslim aggressor. The BJP and its supporters were appalled, therefore, by rumours that the director, Sanjay Leela Bhansali, had been unable to resist the temptation to bring one of Bollywood’s leading couples together onscreen, and has included romantic scenes between Padmavati and Khalji.

“Padmavati and Khalji never met in real life,” a BJP spokesman said. “Queen Padmavati is presented in a poor light.” The film should not be released before the Gujarat poll, he said. “This is important so that no community is offended, and unnecessary controversies are avoided before elections.”

Mr Bhansali has denied several times that the film features a romantic plotline between the queen and the sultan or a rumoured dream sequence that might bring them together, but Hindu right-wingers continue to hound the film. A gang of hardliners raided the production during shooting, destroying sets and attacking the director.

The BJP’s opponents see the controversy as mere opportunism, intended to galvanise its nationalist base before the vote. The BJP has not lost an election in Gujarat since the 1980s but the state has been hit hard by a slowdown in the Indian economy. The jobs boom that Mr Modi oversaw as chief minister of the state has evaporated and his ill-judged personal interventions as prime minister, including the cash crisis last year and a botched tax rollout in June, are widely blamed for accelerating the slump.

Public anticipation remains undimmed. The first trailer for Padmavati has been watched more than 40 million times, more than the trailer for the next Star Wars movie, The Last Jedi.

Is this where the practice of widow burning or Sati, as it is referred to originated? Seems to be quite a furore in India over this release. I assume that is the case if it has made the headlines over here.
 
It's hardly about BJP. Rajputs have issues with movie and they also have some Congress support.

And this issue has been going for the last 2 months, old news being re-circulated and falsified to misguide ppl like you.
 
Is this where the practice of widow burning or Sati, as it is referred to originated? Seems to be quite a furore in India over this release. I assume that is the case if it has made the headlines over here.

Where is the resident Rajput @TMRiddle?
 
It's hardly about BJP. Rajputs have issues with movie and they also have some Congress support.

And this issue has been going for the last 2 months, old news being re-circulated and falsified to misguide ppl like you.

It appeared in today's edition of the Times Uk. I don't see why they would want to misguide people like me.
 
It appeared in today's edition of the Times Uk. I don't see why they would want to misguide people like me.

An ongoing issue for 2 months where many parties have supported the demand , has now been purposefully mislabeled in this article. Title says it all.

And article itself is stupid, there is no rebuttal on the historical part. So facts can't be called as cooking up...
 
An ongoing issue for 2 months where many parties have supported the demand , has now been purposefully mislabeled in this article. Title says it all.

And article itself is stupid, there is no rebuttal on the historical part. So facts can't be called as cooking up...

The article is printed in one of the most reputable UK newspapers. Why would they want to purposely mislabel anything with regard to this story? What would they gain from it?
 
The article is printed in one of the most reputable UK newspapers. Why would they want to purposely mislabel anything with regard to this story? What would they gain from it?

Today, firstly the narrative is decided and then evidence is searched to support it. That's what exactly happened here, blame BJP election time so let's make this story. Western media themselves are facing a credibility crisis.

News should only be about facts reporting and let the audience themselves react. So the facts in this case is, it's a 2-3 month old ongoing issue, and there are both Congress and BJP members say that movie is wrong. And there is documented evidence that Padmavati was not with Khalji.
 
I am pretty sure it would be a mediocre movie which would make 100's of crores due to all these controversies..
 
This is a pan rajput issue cutting across party lines.Bjp has asked the film to be delayed by cpl of weeks.

If the rajput community finds the film offensive they can always drag Bhansali to the court.
 
Where is the resident Rajput @TMRiddle?

An overwhelming no of Pakistani Rajputs , both hindus and muslims are with us on this one.
Theatres are going to get burn this time around if anything offensive is shown in the movie.
PS: Mein is sab ki kadi ninda karta hu
 
An overwhelming no of Pakistani Rajputs , both hindus and muslims are with us on this one.
Theatres are going to get burn this time around if anything offensive is shown in the movie.
PS: Mein is sab ki kadi ninda karta hu

Hey , didn't you saw couple of weeks back that , your people have been shown a rough cut and are OK with the film ?
 
What's disturbing is the tone many BJP leaders are taking about the film ..

"Why are they makng more movies on hindu empires, kings or culture ?" ..

DUH, when the country is 80% hindu and hindu/dharmic culture overwhelmingly defines your country's history, shouldn't most of the movies tend to deal with hinduism ?
 
What's disturbing is the tone many BJP leaders are taking about the film ..

"Why are they makng more movies on hindu empires, kings or culture ?" ..

DUH, when the country is 80% hindu and hindu/dharmic culture overwhelmingly defines your country's history, shouldn't most of the movies tend to deal with hinduism ?

Stupid if they are asking such questions. The question needs to be asked is when will the genocide of hindus will get portrayed in art and cinema. Holocaust denial is a crime in some countries, but the denial of hindu holocaust is secularism in india. No one fears you if you are docile. Once they fear you they will respect you, and won't dare to distort your history and make heroes of your genociders.
 
Today, firstly the narrative is decided and then evidence is searched to support it. That's what exactly happened here, blame BJP election time so let's make this story. Western media themselves are facing a credibility crisis.

News should only be about facts reporting and let the audience themselves react. So the facts in this case is, it's a 2-3 month old ongoing issue, and there are both Congress and BJP members say that movie is wrong. And there is documented evidence that Padmavati was not with Khalji.


But this is a movie, not reporting of facts, shouldn't there be some artistic licence allowed for the entertainment industry? Otherwise you could argue a great many more Bollywood films should be removed from distribution.

Incidentally, isn't this the same director who did Devdas?
 
But this is a movie, not reporting of facts, shouldn't there be some artistic licence allowed for the entertainment industry? Otherwise you could argue a great many more Bollywood films should be removed from distribution.

Incidentally, isn't this the same director who did Devdas?

A movie showing that Hitler wined and dined with jews, and protected them during war.. is not artistic license, but a crime against humanity. It is just that crime against hindus is not only tolerated but encouraged, using meaningless terms like freedom of speech and artistic license. If first world nations have holocaust denial as a crime, there must be some logic to it, so don't know why third world nations should live for such outdated terms like freedom of speech.
 
A movie showing that Hitler wined and dined with jews, and protected them during war.. is not artistic license, but a crime against humanity. It is just that crime against hindus is not only tolerated but encouraged, using meaningless terms like freedom of speech and artistic license. If first world nations have holocaust denial as a crime, there must be some logic to it, so don't know why third world nations should live for such outdated terms like freedom of speech.

Third world nations are called third world nations for a reason. Comparing them to first world nations is like comparing a Dalit to a Rajput. It is Indian understanding of class systems which has seen them recognise that they can't try to run before they can walk.
 
Third world nations are called third world nations for a reason. Comparing them to first world nations is like comparing a Dalit to a Rajput. It is Indian understanding of class systems which has seen them recognise that they can't try to run before they can walk.

Exactly. So your remark on artistic license was flawed in the first place, expecting third worlders to follow what happens in the first world.
 
Exactly. So your remark on artistic license was flawed in the first place, expecting third worlders to follow what happens in the first world.

My remark was just a repeat of the same reasoning artists will use for all of their work in India. If we are to now disregard artistic licence and freedom of speech as outdated, then should India now ban all movies which purport to represent historical events in light of accusations of inaccuracy?
 
Hey , didn't you saw couple of weeks back that , your people have been shown a rough cut and are OK with the film ?

Not the entire pre screening though.SLB should avoid visiting Rajasthan and adjoining states for some time or he might suffer a tragic "accident".
Re BJP laping up the issue , elections are coming up in Gujarat and Himachal Pradesh , they are just pandering to their vote bank like always.
 
My remark was just a repeat of the same reasoning artists will use for all of their work in India. If we are to now disregard artistic licence and freedom of speech as outdated, then should India now ban all movies which purport to represent historical events in light of accusations of inaccuracy?

But it is not the same reasoning audiences use. And just because first world audience take distortion of history as artistic liberty, doesn't mean we third world audiences should be expected to do the same. As you already conceded that third world must first learn to walk before they try to match the first world.
 
But it is not the same reasoning audiences use. And just because first world audience take distortion of history as artistic liberty, doesn't mean we third world audiences should be expected to do the same. As you already conceded that third world must first learn to walk before they try to match the first world.

So is the verdict that Bollywood film directors are not in tune with film audiences when they are producing their first world aping themes? How do they make hit films then?
 
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NEW DELHI: A day before the release of 'Padmaavat', protests against the film intensified across several states with members of several fringe outfits taking out rallies, blocking roads and damaging vehicles.

Earlier in the day, 48 people were arrested in Ahmedabad for indulging in violent acts over the film's release. In fact, on Tuesday night, dissenting outfits unleashed violence and arson in parts of the city.

Mobs attacked shops, torched vehicles, and pelted stones. The destroyed property included at least 200 vehicles, including bikes and cars, that were either set ablaze or damaged.

Subsequently, theatre owners across Gujarat on Wednesday announced their intention to not give the film a screening till the matter was resolved, to ensure "the safety of customers as well as to save their property."

In Mumbai, more than 35 supporters of Rajput Karni Sena, one of the groups opposed to the film's release, were detained.

Police also arrested the Karni Sena's Chittorgarh unit chief, after its spokesperson declared that over 1,900 women of the community were "ready" to commit "jauhar" or mass immolation.

In Gurugram, protesters torched a bus and pelted stones, while in Meerut, they threw stones at a mall.

"Eight-10 masked men had come to pelt stones at PVS mall. Police is on the lookout for the men. We will provide security to the mall at the time of screening of the film," ANI quoted Civil Lines circle officer Chakrapani Tripathi as saying about the situation in Meerut.

Later in the day, clubs and bars in Gurugram were ordered closed from 7pm in view of the disturbances. The closure is expected to continue till further orders are passed by the authorities, reported ANI.

Agitators also blocked the Delhi-Jaipur highway.

In Madhya Pradesh, nearly 200 protesters blocked National Highway 3, which links Agra with Mumbai, in Indore district and broke glass bottles on the road, PTI reported. Protesters also tried to stop vehicles.

Some 50 activists of the Karni Sena burnt an effigy of the film's director Sanjay Leela Bhansali on Indore-Depalpur road.

The Karni Sena also gave a call for a 'janta curfew' on January 25 - the day of the film's release. This move is meant to prevent people from watching 'Padmaavat'.

The group's chief Lokendra Singh Kalvi said a 'janta curfew' on cinema halls would mean that the public will stop the film from being exhibited.

"We are adamant on our stand that this film should be banned. There should be a self-imposed curfew by people," he said.

Kalvi claimed that leaders of the Shiv Sena had assured the Karni Sena of their support in Maharashtra, reported PTI.

He also rejected as "rumours" reports that some members of his outfit had watched the film ahead of its release.

The Rajasthan government accepted the people's right to protest, even as it asked that they remain within the "framework of law and order."

"We have appealed to protesters that if they want to protest while being within framework of law and order, they can go ahead with it. As a matter of fact, there aren't many cinema halls in Rajasthan who are ready to screen the film," the state's home minister Gulab Chand Kataria said.

Several fringe groups allege that 'Padmaavat' distorts history and shows the Rajput community in bad light.

Despite the censor board clearing the film for release, four states - Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Haryana - had banned its screening. Their move was later overturned by the Supreme Court.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...re-padmaavat-release/articleshow/62635464.cms
 
The brave Sena members attacked a school bus full of children. I am sure their ancestors will be proud
 
Movie actually glorifies padmavati and rajputs instead of distorting their history.
state Governments inability to stop this violent protestors is big shame.
 
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Rajputs, their women, & Muslim rulers
Rajesh Kochhar


It is pointless to speculate whether Padmini or Padmavati was a real person or not. There would have been a chief queen in Chittor even if we do not know her real name.

Posted at: Jan 6, 2018, 1:14 AM
Last updated: Jan 6, 2018, 1:14 AM (IST)

Rajesh Kochhar

Honorary Professor, Panjab University, Chandigarh

Acasteist outfit, the Rajasthan-based Sri Rajput Karni Sena's objection to the movie 'Padmavati' is somewhat surprising because the Rajputs acquitted themselves honorably in this period. The Delhi Sultanate was relatively a new thing and the Rajputana rulers were still hopeful of challenging it militarily. They fought valiantly till the end and their women took their own life to protect their honour.

Mughal-Rajput marriages

As time passed, Rajputs became increasingly disadvantaged. Babar defeated the Rajput confederacy led by Rana Sanga of Chittor. His widow Rani Karnavati's appeal to Humayun for help against the Gujarat Sultan failed to elicit any prompt response. The rules of the game changed with Akbar. Rajput rulers became allies of the Mughals, but at a price. They were asked to send their daughters to the imperial harem. The practice lasted 150 long years, from 1562 to 1715.

From Jodha Bai to Indira Kanwar

The first Rajput girl in the Mughal zenana was a daughter of Raja Bharmal of Amber, known variously as Jodha Bai, Hira Kunwai or Harkha Bai, who was married to Emperor Akbar. Given the secular image of Akbar, the marriage has been presented as an inter-religious affair. Movies and television serials have romanticised this particular pair, but the reality, in general, was different. It is noteworthy that Mughal chronicles do not record Hindu names of Rajput wives; they know them only by their Muslim titles. While the Rajput wives in the Mughal harem would probably have met their male blood relatives, it is unlikely that they ever visited their parental home.

The last incidence of a Mughal-Rajput marriage is particularly unsavoury; it belongs to an era when the Mughal power had precipitously declined. In 1715, Maharaja Ajit Singh of Marwar was compelled to marry off his daughter Indira Kanwar to Emperor Farrukhsiyar. The Maharaja showed no fondness for his Mughal son-in-law. He, in fact, was instrumental in Farrukhsiyar's dethronement and assassination. Indira Kanwar was converted back to Hinduism and brought to Jodhpur with all her property. It was the first ever instance of a Rajput princess being "restored to her own people after she had once entered the imperial harem." The daughter was obviously nothing more than a pawn in her father's politicking.

Karni Sena’s aim

The Karni Sena has violently reacted to 'Jodha-Akbar' and 'Padmavati'. One shudders to think of its reaction if someone were to make a movie on Indira Kanwar.

The Karni Sena's avowed aim is to consolidate the Rajput vote with a view to striking a hard bargain at the next General Election. Keeping the vote bank politics in mind, Rajasthan Chief Minister Vasundhara Raje has argued: "Why insist upon a film if it is hurting the sentiments of a particular caste?" Pandering to populism, the governments of Rajasthan, Haryana and MP have banned the film even without waiting for a decision by the certification board.

The Karni Sena president has demanded that the film be cleared by the erstwhile ruling family of Mewar. This is a pernicious principle. Every Hindu has a caste. Historical personalities cannot be considered as the property of their present-day caste descendents. If Maharana Pratap can be a national hero, why can the others not be seen from a general perspective?

History and art

The National Film Certification Board has announced that historians would be included in the panel that views 'Padmavati'. Such a move can serve no useful purpose. History is a tricky subject; it cannot be written without implicating the historian. Not all historical facts are recorded nor are all points of view accommodated. What is considered important today may not even have been considered worthy of notice in the past.

Alauddin Khalji's chronicler Amir Khusro records the jauhar committed by the queens and other women in the Ranthambore Fort which was conquered in 1301. It was the first description of the custom in Persian. Two years later, the Chittor fort was reduced under similar circumstances but no jauhar is mentioned. It will be wrong to conclude from this that no jauhar took place. The absence of mention does not constitute proof of absence. Muslim chroniclers may not have been overly enthusiastic about recording the goings-on in the Rajput camp. It is probable that Amir Khusro's interest was in reporting a new phenomenon to his readers. Once the purpose had been served, there was no need to report the incident again.

If the womenfolk in Chittorgarh did not take their own life, what happened to them? If they had been taken to Delhi, surely the Sultanate historians and chroniclers would have found it worthy of mention. It is pointless to speculate whether Padmini or Padmavati was a real person or not. There would have been a chief queen in Chittor even if we do not know her real name.

Suppose Jayasi had set his epic in Ranthambore rather than in Chittor. There would have been no controversy on the historicity, but the impact of the epic would have been the same as now.

No movie can ever be made based solely on the inputs provided by chroniclers and historians. Even if names, dates and events are authentic, characters will have to be fleshed out, tensions created and drama enacted. As the high court has said, a movie should not be pre-judged.

The decision on its release should be awaited and respected. More importantly, a nation should be able to look its past in the eye without feeling discomfited. It should allow its artistes and creative persons to function in an atmosphere free of fear.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/news/comment/rajputs-their-women--muslim-rulers/524111.html
 
Karni Sena men unknowingly set fire to fellow activist's car in Bhopal to protest Padmaavat release

Karni Sena activists torched a car owned by another Karni Sena activist in Bhopal on Wednesday evening during a protest held to oppose the release of Padmaavat.

Police have detained 6 people in connection with the incident.

Inspector General of Law and Order Yogesh Chaudhry said that a protest had been called at the Jyoti Talkies intersection on Wednesday evening by Karni Sena and other groups opposing the release of the movie Padmawat.

The protest turned violent after some time and some miscreants set on fire a Maruti Swift car parked close by.

Later, it emerged that the car MP 04 HC 9653 was owned by one Surendra Singh Chauhan, who is an activist himself of the Karni Sena. The activist lives in a EWS colony and is not financially very well off. Members of the Hindu Jagran Manch were also present at the protest and tore down posters of BJP leaders and ministers that had been put there earlier.

About 100 people assembled at the intersection and warned cinema owners to not screen the film that releases on Friday.

After the arson, police rounded up about half a dozen people and took them to the MP Nagar police station. Soon after that a large number of activists collected at the police stations demanding that a case not be registered for arson since the victim was not pressing charges.

Earlier, the MP CM Shivraj Singh Chouhan had announced the banning of the film in the state. The film was however given a clearance by the censor board after which the Supreme Court said that it cannot be banned.

Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh filed petitions in the Supreme Court on Tuesday demanding that the screening be stopped on grounds of law and orders. The Supreme Court struck down these petitions too.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...-protest-padmaavat-release-1153685-2018-01-24
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This video of raging lunatics terrorizing kids about a damn movie should haunt haryana and central govt- how can you speak of protecting our borders or from terror when you let some hooligans hold up a school bus like this! Schools are shut thanks to their threats- do something <a href="https://t.co/VSPlQLRlUP">pic.twitter.com/VSPlQLRlUP</a></p>— sunetra choudhury (@sunetrac) <a href="https://twitter.com/sunetrac/status/956231811201318912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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"Karta raha so kyo raha, ab kari kyo pachhataye.
Boye ped babul ka, so amua kaha se paaye."

This is just the beginning of what Hindu's started in their vinash kale viprit budhi when they voted for Modi to control Muslims.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This video of raging lunatics terrorizing kids about a damn movie should haunt haryana and central govt- how can you speak of protecting our borders or from terror when you let some hooligans hold up a school bus like this! Schools are shut thanks to their threats- do something <a href="https://t.co/VSPlQLRlUP">pic.twitter.com/VSPlQLRlUP</a></p>— sunetra choudhury (@sunetrac) <a href="https://twitter.com/sunetrac/status/956231811201318912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Terrorists of India, Rajputs actually came real on their threats this time, sad state of affairs.
 
"Karta raha so kyo raha, ab kari kyo pachhataye.
Boye ped babul ka, so amua kaha se paaye."

This is just the beginning of what Hindu's started in their vinash kale viprit budhi when they voted for Modi to control Muslims.
It's probably a Congress backed one, with their caste mobilization,but BJPs inability to take actions or criticize Rajputs this time and Jats he last time is just enough proof that doesn't matter who is heading the country.
 
Shocking is many Rajputs have not even come forward to condemn this,even the posters here, almost in line with Jats where at least couple of celebs asked to maintain peace. Many Indians have kept blaming Bihar and UP but maybe it's the castes, the castes might be a bigger issue than religion for India.
 
It's probably a Congress backed one, with their caste mobilization,but BJPs inability to take actions or criticize Rajputs this time and Jats he last time is just enough proof that doesn't matter who is heading the country.
Congress,BJP does not matter,there is an inevitability about this.
Many of us have been warning about this morphing of India into a Hindu Pakistan.
Once you start disregarding law and order because your religious sentiments are hurt, this is where you will end up.
 
Digital and shining India and mera "bharat mahaan" at it's best.Attacking children now.Way to go terrorists!! wow just wow!! Modi sakar ki jai ho!
 
Congress,BJP does not matter,there is an inevitability about this.
Many of us have been warning about this morphing of India into a Hindu Pakistan.
Once you start disregarding law and order because your religious sentiments are hurt, this is where you will end up.
With 58% Sikhs always get to rule Punjab,so let's not go on Hindu Pakistan,when everywhere up North it's same, south states have issues but they don't do **** like that.
 
With 58% Sikhs always get to rule Punjab,so let's not go on Hindu Pakistan,when everywhere up North it's same, south states have issues but they don't do **** like that.

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When jayalalitha got convicted. Passengers burned to death.

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Riots at the funeral of an actor who died a natural death.

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Cauvery river water dispute. Buses burnt.

South states don't do stuff like that? try to fool someone else.
 
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When jayalalitha got convicted. Passengers burned to death.

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Riots at the funeral of an actor who died a natural death.

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Cauvery river water dispute. Buses burnt.

South states don't do stuff like that? try to fool someone else.

Rajput has spoken!
 
Well said, guess arrogance and hatred for Rajput violence is clouding my vision assuming only recent events are an issue and only with certain communities.

The karni sena are fighting the good fight. I think some anti nationals joined the protest to malign them. No support for stone pelting on the school bus, even if the karni sena did it.

But that doesnt take away anything from the validity of the just cause. Just like the chauri chaura incident didnt mean the fight for freedom was unjustified.

Bhansali has succeeded in humanising an invader and having hindus sympathize with him and see him as a failed lover. So it will be a long drawn battle to put the bollywood clowns to their place.
 
The karni sena are fighting the good fight. I think some anti nationals joined the protest to malign them. No support for stone pelting on the school bus, even if the karni sena did it.

But that doesnt take away anything from the validity of the just cause. Just like the chauri chaura incident didnt mean the fight for freedom was unjustified.

Bhansali has succeeded in humanising an invader and having hindus sympathize with him and see him as a failed lover. So it will be a long drawn battle to put the bollywood clowns to their place.

Karni Sena has managed to humanize the invader,Bhansali showcased him as a beast ,the movie is on pride of Rajputs, it's unfortunate for art to have limit,even if it's for commercial purposes and dumbed down.
 
Like the Rajputs have never done the same thing


zeb un nissa was groomed by shivaji
 
Sorry for coming across as totally ignorant but what the hell is going on in this thread?
 
Having watched the movie yesterday, I now firmly believe in the conspiracy theory that the Karni sena was paid off by Sanjay Leela Bhansali to protest and hype up this mediocre movie. The only thing offensive about the movie was the movie itself
 
Having watched the movie yesterday, I now firmly believe in the conspiracy theory that the Karni sena was paid off by Sanjay Leela Bhansali to protest and hype up this mediocre movie. The only thing offensive about the movie was the movie itself


Nah it’s politics my friend Indian politics is very caste based and sheep herd mentality types.. In this case a film got caught in middle of politics, tomorrow it would be something else it’s just how it is..
 
Nah it’s politics my friend Indian politics is very caste based and sheep herd mentality types.. In this case a film got caught in middle of politics, tomorrow it would be something else it’s just how it is..
Sarcasm sune ho?
 
Terrorists of India, Rajputs actually came real on their threats this time, sad state of affairs.

First time I’m seeing an Indian calling them “Terrorist”, usually that word is reserved for only Muslims of India.
 
Having watched the movie yesterday, I now firmly believe in the conspiracy theory that the Karni sena was paid off by Sanjay Leela Bhansali to protest and hype up this mediocre movie. The only thing offensive about the movie was the movie itself

You are forgetting that the movie you watched has had several cuts. All because of karni sena.
 
Karni Sena has managed to humanize the invader,Bhansali showcased him as a beast ,the movie is on pride of Rajputs, it's unfortunate for art to have limit,even if it's for commercial purposes and dumbed down.

The very foundation of art is its boundaries. That is where art is at its best.

Although would never use art and bollywood in the same sentence. It is a ghatiya and gutter class industry churning out garbage for the brain dead.
 
Is this where the practice of widow burning or Sati, as it is referred to originated? Seems to be quite a furore in India over this release. I assume that is the case if it has made the headlines over here.


Yes this is exactly how the Sati was started., to stop enslaving of the vulnerable women to be sold in the middle east.

Indians never knew what a slave was. The term das used in India is for paid employee.
 
Having watched the movie yesterday, I now firmly believe in the conspiracy theory that the Karni sena was paid off by Sanjay Leela Bhansali to protest and hype up this mediocre movie. The only thing offensive about the movie was the movie itself


It was a pretty good movie albeit with some fiction.

Malik Kafur is shown from middle east while he was a 10year old enslaved boy from Gujarat.
 
Having watched the movie yesterday, I now firmly believe in the conspiracy theory that the Karni sena was paid off by Sanjay Leela Bhansali to protest and hype up this mediocre movie. The only thing offensive about the movie was the movie itself

Totally agree.

Haha.

This is one of the worst movies ever.
 
Watched movie yesterday, it glorifies rajpoot, and antagonizes khilji, which he was, but ranveer was kickass, but Shahid was killer in fight scene.
 
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