Anyone suffered or suffering from Jadoo/Sihr/Taveez?

[MR__KHAN__JI]

I was so so thin, like these Somalians in ads

after wearing the taveez for being healthy, I gained 25 kg in 10 months and I never changed my diet.

I swear people, I am not lying

lol

Are you sure those chicken burgers had nothing to do woth it....

 

[Mohsin]

Id seriously recommend watching this, VERY fascinating:

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[shah_1]

lol

Are you sure those chicken burgers had nothing to do woth it....

I clearly said, that I never changed my diet

 

[Mohsin]

That is a question I have been thinking about too, Mohsin. But then isn't it the same as any other sin. We miss fajr sleeping, or people taking bribes, or cheating in exams / and in life by betraying trust, disobedience to the parents who cared for you all this time -- we know Allah is watching then why are we doing it?

Its true that this is very popular in Sub Continent [in Bangladesh some times you will find news paper ads of people claiming they can break the curse ].

I wish this wasn't true but it is. I do not know if giving the link to another forum is allowed but check this thread out. Kinda creepy though

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?84592-Some-photos-of-talisman-taweez-wafaq-etc

True but these can be said to be 'minor' things (of course theyre not, especially missing Prayer), but in regards to prayer we're not trying to harm anyone...same for the rest. Bribes, cheating, not trying to directly harm someone. Could be said to be selfishness...but regarding something like this, the main aim mostly seems to actually try and RUIN another person via black magic, Jinns etc...beyong my comprehension tbh how people can even think about doing something like that

 

[Yossarian]

Magic - Black or otherwise, a euphemism for, as yet, lack of sufficient knowledge to explain something that is theoretically perfectly feasible. Knowledge yet to be discovered.

If you were to go back in time, say to the beginning of the 20th century, taking your ipod containing some video clips with you, you will be able to convince most of the population that it was magic, and there really were little people walking around inside that teeny weeny gadget.

 

[10sion]

True. Death of humanity as we know it.

 

[rhussain33]

Personally, you haven't experienced it. To believe magic, you have to see it - to go out there especially in places where dark magic is practiced widely. I am speaking from the ground reality. These medicines can't be helpful because we are already told in Holy Qur'aan that only solution to dark magic is prayer to obtain positive spiritual feeling to encounter dark magic.

You are lucky that you don't have enemy who is expert of magic. Unfortunately, we can't say the same about our in Pakistan. ;(

Jazakallah Khayr Malik Mohsin for your posts and explanations regarding this issue, I share the same views as you but are unable to put them in words.. I thank you very much indeed for your patience and understanding, maybe we could speak to eahcother privateley it would be great

Hussain I hope you can take this honest advice on board, by the way. I do feel slightly guilty about the patronising tone but blaming your problems on black magic will be unlikely to open the door to a solution. My family operates within this sector in the UK and we have various vested business interests, so if you would like some help getting in touch with genuine organisations, psychotherapists or counsellors let me know.

James, I have been running to the doctors for the last 6 years, complaining of fatigue and inability to do normal little living this likes shopping etc i just lose all my energy and feel like im about to collapse, things have worsened since then, my heads and legs are heavy and aching all the time, every single day, i cant understand it, I cant get to sleep without sleeping tablets, if i dont sleep i be more ill and bed ridden, my biggest challenge right now is refraining from suicide, things never used to be like this, I was happily married with kids, and was working as a helpdesk analyst for 3 years commuting every day, used to be healthy, last 6 years everything has broke down, health, wealth, mind, relationships, relgious prayers etc... The doctors are absolutely useless, I have given up with them, all they are good for now is giving me sleeping tablets so i can get a good 7 hours sleep so i am not ill the next day and I can pick my kids up from school at home time, or spend some time with them in evening reading books etc. Nothing has been diagnosed as to what the cause of this pain is apart from depression, and anti depressents which gave me more side effects and did not want to continue with them and gave up with

And please explain to me why my legs start excessively shaking when I go to the mosque to read prayers in congregation ??

And why i start screaming in agony when I am trying to relieve all these wierd pains in my legs by pressing them and massaging them and hitting them with a stick ??

So come on sir help me out here as I dont wanna be existent in this scum of a planet and life no more, i Just want it to be all black and this misery to end.

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

I clearly said, that I never changed my diet

A couple more here a couple more there... sometimes you dont even realise....

I'm only having a laugh... only you know what you did or didnt eat.

One thing i can guarantee - is that it wasnt the taweez!



Can you make a taweez that the drone strikers fall down as soon as they start shooting?

Lets all do it at the same time and see if we can make it work?

 

[chaiwala]

rhussain, please try to get help from a psychiatrist immediately. Tell them exactly what you have told James in your last post. Do not do anything rash man, please.

 

[Andrew Hughes]

rhussain

You are clearly suffering and I feel for you. It sounds as though one of the things you may be suffering from is chronic fatigue syndrome/ME/fibromyalgia. The problem with these diseases is that they are hard to diagnose and as yet the medical profession is not completely sure what they are caused by. They often affect people who were apparently completely healthy, leading busy, active lives, often becoming apparent after a bout of flu or another viral infection. These conditions are characterised by extreme fatigue, mysterious pains, weakness, that kind of thing. Kneeling, bending, walking, all these things can become hard to do.

Please don't give up on the medical avenue. You may have to persist or insist on a proper diagnosis, you may have to do your own research and get in touch with societies relating to these diseases.

 

[shah_1]

I am actually kidding people

I hate people who make business out of these thing, make people fool of nothing

 

[Gabbar Singh]

rhussain33,

I know it's easy for those on the outside to say, but please speak to someone professional about how you're feeling. No matter how bad things get there is ALWAYS an alternative to suicide.

You are blessed with a wife and children who no doubt love and care for you a lot. Doing anything silly will destroy their lives.

 

[shah_1]

I really feel sorry for rhussian

Don't give up, my uncle just won his battle against cancer

you can fight this disease through proper channel

 

[Mohsin]

And why i start screaming in agony when I am trying to relieve all these wierd pains in my legs by pressing them and massaging them and hitting them with a stick ??

So come on sir help me out here as I dont wanna be existent in this scum of a planet and life no more, i Just want it to be all black and this misery to end.

Bro just hang on with it, dont give up man. Im not going to try and act as if i know what youre going through/act as if its nothing, but we all have our bad patches...just hang on with it, InshAllah tAllah everything will be fine man

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Rhussain.

I would echo what Andrew is saying.

Please don't give up on the medical route.

Doctors these days are trying to rush through too many patients per hour.

This means that hard to diagnose conditions can be left undiagnosed for a long time.

I have personally seen this before.

I don't have the answers. But I know you have to keep trying.

The more effort you spend on the Jadoo side the less time u will spend focusing on the medical side.

Keep praying to Allah. He is nore likely to listen to you if you ask him directly, then if you speak to peer fakirs.

 

[Saqs]

That is a question I have been thinking about too, Mohsin. But then isn't it the same as any other sin. We miss fajr sleeping, or people taking bribes, or cheating in exams / and in life by betraying trust, disobedience to the parents who cared for you all this time -- we know Allah is watching then why are we doing it?

Its true that this is very popular in Sub Continent [in Bangladesh some times you will find news paper ads of people claiming they can break the curse ].

I wish this wasn't true but it is. I do not know if giving the link to another forum is allowed but check this thread out. Kinda creepy though

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?84592-Some-photos-of-talisman-taweez-wafaq-etc

Not the same as any other sin because it is known as one of the unforgivable sins alongside Shirk.

That makes you think - how could it be so bad? One explanation I have heard is that to perform black magic one has to associate partners with Allah and commit shirk to be able to have access to the dark arts. Kinda like selling your soul to the djinn.

 

[shakil]

rhussain,

Keep steadfast in your prayers and pray to Allah to heal you. He has the cure for everything. I am sure things will only get better

 

[Fallen King]

^ Assalamu Alaikum, rhussain33

I am sadden to hear about your situation. I am very glad to help you.
It depends on where you live? If you live in Pakistan, you are in good luck. Otherwise, let me know where you live. My prayers are with you.

MalikBrother2k7@hotmail.com. Email me if possible if you want to continue in private.

^ Moderators

I hope you understand my purpose of listing email address here to attend urgent help, Thank!

 

[venomousx]

I clearly said, that I never changed my diet

Did your bones get wider? Like did your wrist size increase?
What kind of weight did you gain? fat?

 

[Saqs]

Can I ask all those people who have claimed to suffer from or experienced black magic if they can share more details ( only if you are comfortable).

I find it a fascinating topic BUT I feel in our Asian culture people are very quick to blame things on jinn and nazr etc.

I know three people that are very close to me that have been through this.

Two are relatives.

But are known to be somewhat the attention seeking types so always take what they say with a grain of salt.

Basically one of them thinks she had black magic done on her by a family who wanted to marry their son to her. Ever since she has been going crazy over how badly she wants this guy and how she wants to get married. Wierd thing is she doesn't remember who the guy is (only met once and she didn't really notice him)

Another relative had wierd things happen like dark black powder coming out of her hands and skin. She would wash her hands and in front of everyone they would get this black ashy powder on them again. Wierd.

The other is a close friend. Who has been diagnosed with bipolar. He believes some guys from a Muslim youth club got together and performed some crap on him. Ever since he has been very sick. But AH the medications and treatment he underwent has helped him now. Was a very religious guy. He believes him drinking alcohol sparked it all. God knows best.

One of my uncles said he went to a pir in Pakistan on his last visit and wanted to test the whole thing out. So he went to a place where the pir got a young prepubescent boy to sit in as mediator to communicate. They asked the little boy whether he can see anyone else in the room and he could see an old man with a long beard. The old man then proceeded to answer questions from the little boy that were specifically asked to prove knowledge of the unseen (ie secrets were revealed in minute detail)

I think it might happen in reality in very rare circumstances. But 99% would be the work of charlatans duping innocent naive villagers.

Basically whenever money is mentioned it is a scam.

 

[ahmed778]

www.shafou.com

This site may answer many of your questions about Black Magic and the use of Jinn's to take control of other people's bodies.
BUT,
Proceed if you're only interested in this stuff and with caution not for the faint hearted.

 

[shakil]

www.shafou.com

This site may answer many of your questions about Black Magic and the use of Jinn's to take control of other people's bodies.
BUT,
Proceed if you're only interested in this stuff and with caution not for the faint hearted.

Are you kidding me? There is nothing on the site except a link to a blog with pictures of cool Chinese girls

 

[ahmed778]

Are you kidding me? There is nothing on the site except a link to a blog with pictures of cool Chinese girls

Give it a few seconds it takes a bit time to load.

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

www.shafou.com

This site may answer many of your questions about Black Magic and the use of Jinn's to take control of other people's bodies.
BUT,
Proceed if you're only interested in this stuff and with caution not for the faint hearted.

.

 

[baghdadi]

Dear rhussain33,

I have suffered Black Magic and i will tell you here why you is not being fresh. The reason is because you tell to others what you is reading. Never tell to others even your wife, mother or brothers what you are reading. Because when you tell to other peoples what you are reading so Jadoogar will know it and you will not be fresh. Then you will not get rid of Black magic. I will not tell you how jadoogar know it.

Make a dua for me if you have been fresh and healthy.

Rhussain did you read my answer here? Please do as i am saying to you here. I am telling you that i have seen black magic and this is the only way you will get rid off it.

Rhussain please don't tell to others what you are reading. This is the reason for you is not being fresh.

 

[Pak-Legend]

Rhussain.

I would echo what Andrew is saying.

Please don't give up on the medical route.

Doctors these days are trying to rush through too many patients per hour.

This means that hard to diagnose conditions can be left undiagnosed for a long time.

I have personally seen this before.

I don't have the answers. But I know you have to keep trying.

The more effort you spend on the Jadoo side the less time u will spend focusing on the medical side.

Keep praying to Allah. He is nore likely to listen to you if you ask him directly, then if you speak to peer fakirs.

It doesn't take a genius to realize that the people suffering from Jadoo first look towards the medical route. After dozens of meetings with general physicians and specialists, and a series of tests depending on the severity of the condition itself - most are still unable to find a solution to their problem. The alternative arises when people consult with these spiritual healers and miraculously their problem is cured. For those who have gone through this experience, what sort of alternative possibility do you think there is?

I personally know someone (I will not state their nationality or condition) who was a non-muslim at first and no physician was able to diagnose their condition. They seeked help from an Islamic spiritual healer, and ultimately he was cured thanks to the grace of Allah. He also converted to Islam. You have to see it to believe it, really. I also don't care if you think I am lying, since Allah is my witness on the Day of Judgement.

By the way, why do you go the doctor when you are in need of help? According to you, shouldn't we ask Allah directly?

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

It doesn't take a genius to realize that the people suffering from Jadoo first look towards the medical route. After dozens of meetings with general physicians and specialists, and a series of tests depending on the severity of the condition itself - most are still unable to find a solution to their problem. The alternative arises when people consult with these spiritual healers and miraculously their problem is cured. For those who have gone through this experience, what sort of alternative possibility do you think there is? You have to see it to believe it.

By the way, why do you go the doctor when you are in need of help? According to you, shouldn't we ask Allah directly?

Just cos they can't find an immediate diagnoses... it doesn't mean it's Jadoo.

Like I said - can someone please do Jadoo on the drone strikers please (if it's real).

 

[Pak-Legend]

Just cos they can't find an immediate diagnoses... it doesn't mean it's Jadoo.

Like I said - can someone please do Jadoo on the drone strikers please.

It was not immediate. You have no knowledge of the situation at hand so don't try to pass judgements. It was a long term problem and countless physicians were not even able to put words to the problem - let alone figure out a solution.

 

[rockers2012]

It was not immediate. You have no knowledge of the situation at hand so don't try to pass judgements. It was a long term problem and countless physicians were not even able to put words to the problem - let alone figure out a solution.

Possible. But instead of consulting with a fake peer on the street they had better consult with a real good islamic scholar. Sometimes people have bottled up their problems in their hearts for too long and they do not know how to get them out in the open and they unduly suffer mentally and they definitely need a good supporting system and something more divine to rely upon like a God or a religious faith. But I still do not relate that situation with black Jadoo but more so with a lack of a religious routine in one's life.

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

It was not immediate. You have no knowledge of the situation at hand so don't try to pass judgements. It was a long term problem and countless physicians were not even able to put words to the problem - let alone figure out a solution.

Some conditions are complex.

The nhs is not designed to deal with them effectively.

I don't need to have knowledge of the situation at hand.

I know what's been posted on the thread.

That's all I am able to comment on.

 

[IAJ]

rhussain 33, Reading your last post made me sad brother. I pray that Allah SWT guide you out of this really tough time so you can live your live normally with your family.

Please have faith in Allah SWT.

Shaytaan is our enemy and he keeps whispering these evil things to us. If Shaytaan can keep you away from Mosque he will be satisfied and once he has reached his first goal, he starts the next and he keeps like that.

The thoughts of suicide is also from Shaytan because he knows that it's is not permissible in Islam. Allah SWT has given us this life and only He SWT can take it away, but He SWT has given us free will where people either choose to fight the difficult times out having faith in him waiting for better times or fall into the hands of shaytan.

Just do your best to ignore these thoughts and please seek help from a reliable scholar and also don't stop going to the professional doctors.

Prayers and patience are the best options. If you can somehow try to win over the waswasa and perform the ablution and pray the door will open InshaAllah.

I know it's easy for us to say this, but I am afraid that is the only way I can try to help you brother.

May Allah SWT give you strong Imaan, good health and happiness brother.

 

[rhussain33]

Rhussain did you read my answer here? Please do as i am saying to you here. I am telling you that i have seen black magic and this is the only way you will get rid off it. Rhussain please don't tell to others what you are reading. This is the reason for you is not being fresh.

I understand what you are saying brother, but I live with a mother who is my wrost enemy gives every single bit of information out regarding our personal affairs, so I cant really stop it, I have given up.

Please have faith in Allah SWT, Just do your best to ignore these thoughts and please seek help from a reliable scholar and also don't stop going to the professional doctors.

Prayers and patience are the best options. If you can somehow try to win over the waswasa and perform the ablution and pray the door will open InshaAllah.

I know it's easy for us to say this, but I am afraid that is the only way I can try to help you brother.

May Allah SWT give you strong Imaan, good health and happiness brother.

Jazakallah for your kind words, Allah bless you, i am seeking professional medical help and help from a reliable scholar... I pray most of my salahs, many at the mosq, read quran, nothing seems to be working or getting better, it just gets worse day by day, when the rooh exits the body, thats when this misery will end, other wise ill just have to live with it, i still got it easy i think, theres people in alot worse situations, even though I cant live a normal life as I wish, Allah knows best

 

[baghdadi]

I understand what you are saying brother, but I live with a mother who is my wrost enemy gives every single bit of information out regarding our personal affairs, so I cant really stop it, I have given up.

Rhussain, still you haven't understood what i mean. Something is hidden for you in this message. And they will not let you know it. Don't say that your mother is your worst enemy. Your enemy is someone other and they will not let you know what i mean.

Agar tum na kisi ko yeh bata dia k tum kia par raha ho to tum par sara asar osi waqt hatam ho jana ha.


Try to mark here and see you can understand it?

 

[baghdadi]

Rhussain, Also remember this is not depending on your mother. It is depending on you.

 

[SAPakFan]

Slmz, this type of things are becomming more common day by day,it's sometimes worst than what cold blood murderers do, as you suffer alot. People are so jealous of one another that they resort to such inhumane things & many times it's someone you least expect. I can't imagine how difficult it must be for some as they really suffer in strange ways & many think they've gone crazy. Allah make it easy for them. Remember Allah will only test you with a test you can handle,you need to really 'fight' it as after difficulty comes ease. When a muslim suffers like this his sins are being washed away and he is rewarded for being patient. Allah tests those He loves in the most difficult ways. Don't ever think of suicide as this will inevetibly deprive you of your reward and Jannat. Let it not be that those who you come in contact with can see your suffering through your expression as it will only spoil their day, try to plant a smile on your face at all times,esp at home for your childrens sake- you'll automatically also start to feel better. Don't go around telling everyone about your problems, that should be kept aside only for Allah as only He can really assist you. Tell people about positives instead, you'll also become more positive in sha Allah. Apart from remaining constant with your salaah, try to be in the state of whuzu at all times, adopt more sunnah in your life, use the miswaak, keep your tongue moist with zikrullah and read surah falaq and surah naas as much as possible. In sha Allah this will make you forget of your suffering but you have to read it with conviction because obviously only Allah can help you. Try to play surah Baqarah in your house daily, read manzil also. Otherwise if it's possible go for Umrah /Haj and see how you feel there in those blessed places, make lots of dua, this will definitely make it easier for you to do lots of a'maal when you return.

 

[Indiafan]

Slmz, this type of things are becomming more common day by day,it's sometimes worst than what cold blood murderers do, as you suffer alot. People are so jealous of one another that they resort to such inhumane things & many times it's someone you least expect..

If this is true, why arent people doing black magic on Zardari? Why arent Taliban doing black magic on Bush and Obama? Why is black magic only used against poor, illetrate or depressed people who have no importance in the world?

If black magic were true, it would mean people have power to change physics and biloogy. If black magic were true, people with such power can rule the world and hold everyone hostage because they will have more power than anyone. Why would you need guns and misslies and nukes when you can harm someone with magic?

But in real life, so called black magic people are among the poorest and most illiterate people and they just get their livelihood taking money from gullible people. So I doubt these people actually know black magic

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

If this is true, why arent people doing black magic on Zardari? Why arent Taliban doing black magic on Bush and Obama? Why is black magic only used against poor, illetrate or depressed people who have no importance in the world?

If black magic were true, it would mean people have power to change physics and biloogy. If black magic were true, people with such power can rule the world and hold everyone hostage because they will have more power than anyone. Why would you need guns and misslies and nukes when you can harm someone with magic?

But in real life, so called black magic people are among the poorest and most illiterate people and they just get their livelihood taking money from gullible people. So I doubt these people actually know black magic

Why you come here and talk sense?

 

[Bhaijaan]

rhussain

Life is precious bro, do not even think about suicide. Just don't panic, keep your mind as calm as possible and never be frightened by anything. Our prayers are with you.


Also try changing your 2015 world cup squad bro, things may change if Afridi's in it. Ayii?

 

[Indiafan]

Why you come here and talk sense?

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Why is black magic only used against poor, illiterate or depressed people who have no importance in the world?

Good question.

 

[Grunge101]

Jazakallah Khayr Malik Mohsin for your posts and explanations regarding this issue, I share the same views as you but are unable to put them in words.. I thank you very much indeed for your patience and understanding, maybe we could speak to eahcother privateley it would be great



James, I have been running to the doctors for the last 6 years, complaining of fatigue and inability to do normal little living this likes shopping etc i just lose all my energy and feel like im about to collapse, things have worsened since then, my heads and legs are heavy and aching all the time, every single day, i cant understand it, I cant get to sleep without sleeping tablets, if i dont sleep i be more ill and bed ridden, my biggest challenge right now is refraining from suicide, things never used to be like this, I was happily married with kids, and was working as a helpdesk analyst for 3 years commuting every day, used to be healthy, last 6 years everything has broke down, health, wealth, mind, relationships, relgious prayers etc... The doctors are absolutely useless, I have given up with them, all they are good for now is giving me sleeping tablets so i can get a good 7 hours sleep so i am not ill the next day and I can pick my kids up from school at home time, or spend some time with them in evening reading books etc. Nothing has been diagnosed as to what the cause of this pain is apart from depression, and anti depressents which gave me more side effects and did not want to continue with them and gave up with

And please explain to me why my legs start excessively shaking when I go to the mosque to read prayers in congregation ??

And why i start screaming in agony when I am trying to relieve all these wierd pains in my legs by pressing them and massaging them and hitting them with a stick ??

So come on sir help me out here as I dont wanna be existent in this scum of a planet and life no more, i Just want it to be all black and this misery to end.

You are clearly suffering..i acknowledge that.and you need proper help.That means going to your GP and getting yourself an appointment/referral with a specialized Psychiatrist.

Im a doc training in Psych and believe me your symptoms are completely explainable medically..im not trying to challenge your views on Religion/Jadu but only stating that you should get professional opinion..not from your nearby GP,but get him to refer you to a Pdoc.
You hated the antidepressants?..Well theyre not all the same..Maybe he can put you on another class that works for you..and then theyre are options other than ADs that are highly likely to benefit you.If you're completely decided on not using Meds then adjunct/Stand alone Psychotherapy with a trained Professional can do wonders.

Dont give up hope..this happens to the best of us.You can try the Taveez thing simultaneously if you want...it cant hurt.

 

[SAPakFan]

If this is true, why arent people doing black magic on Zardari? Why arent Taliban doing black magic on Bush and Obama? Why is black magic only used against poor, illetrate or depressed people who have no importance in the world?

If black magic were true, it would mean people have power to change physics and biloogy. If black magic were true, people with such power can rule the world and hold everyone hostage because they will have more power than anyone. Why would you need guns and misslies and nukes when you can harm someone with magic?

But in real life, so called black magic people are among the poorest and most illiterate people and they just get their livelihood taking money from gullible people. So I doubt these people actually know black magic

Good question! By the way doing majic on others is a great sin in Islam so why would Taliban do that? Or any muslim for that matter as it takes one out of the fold of islam. Jealousy is the main cause for the layman though. Do we know for sure the ins and outs about Obamas life or anybody else for that matter. We don't know if he sleeps well or takes sleeping pills, eats well, or even if his body is functioning 100%. When it comes to such high-profile people, we only know what they want us to know because of their money and authority. People who work,deal and assist them are very secretive as they're paid well. Even if they are perhaps affected they'd probably go to the best in the field as they've got the recources. Another factor is that we as ordinary people won't easily for instance be able to even shake the hand of such a person and they probably have records,footage, info about everyone they come into contact with, whereas an ordinary person doesn't have this at his disposal. Now for jadoo to be done (not quite sure how it works) a persons' hair for instance is used. If guests come to your house,you're not aware who enters your bedroom or even picks up your hair at the barber,whereas such people use specialised people for all theis tasks and therefore one won't easily take such a chance against them as they'd easily be caught out. Their family,life, careers,everything will be at stake. Most of the time it's not possible for a layman to find out the details of what has been done to them,by who,etc as the spiritual healers are very discreet for many reasons. The same can't be said for the president offcourse as he'll demand such info. Also many people are affected but think it's medically related as they don't believe in it. They'll even do operation after operation without any success,just more complications. It is true though that some people make too much of a fuss about it without it being a reality,like if someone knows they're affected and perhaps meets up in an accident they'll relate it to jadoo whereas that might not be the case. Also remember people are affected in different ways,some much worse than others,some physically,mentally,spiritually,financially,etc & many are unaware that anything is wrong in their lives and others feel that everything that goes wrong in their lives are related to jadoo. 'And Allah knows best'

 

[James]

 

[Bhaijaan]

Dear rhussain33,

I have suffered Black Magic and i will tell you here why you is not being fresh. The reason is because you tell to others what you is reading. Never tell to others even your wife, mother or brothers what you are reading. Because when you tell to other peoples what you are reading so Jadoogar will know it and you will not be fresh. Then you will not get rid of Black magic. I will not tell you how jadoogar know it.

Make a dua for me if you have been fresh and healthy.

Rhussain did you read my answer here? Please do as i am saying to you here. I am telling you that i have seen black magic and this is the only way you will get rid off it.

Rhussain please don't tell to others what you are reading. This is the reason for you is not being fresh.

You also need help man, don't confuse him further.

 

[shah_1]

I don't believe in this jadoo shaadoo,

 

[shah_1]

This has become a business to many people in the world, take advantage of some people like here on PP are on this thread.

BTW I am talking about magic

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

I think I agree with you.

 

[x2zee123]

maybe it is something i invented to make myself feel important..i dont know..but have been seeing this happening around me since childhood..all the people i hated had very tragic things happening to them..that made me feel guilty later..so one day i sat down and forgave everyone and i consciously try not to think bad about anyone... even the girl who did not marry me knows this and she would always ask me to pray for her happiness even though she is from another religion..it is bit of a challenge to overcome your jealousy about someone and wish them happiness from your heart..i dont want to live with more guilt that i am already carrying..

I havent seen namak halaal posting here for few days. What have u done to him u monster

 

[GentleMan]

I havent seen namak halaal posting here for few days. What have u done to him u monster

it is true that i didnt like him in early days but since my second coming i have been well behaved with him and i also wished him a happy new year.. i always try to think positive about people.. hope everything is fine.

 

[bin_pendi_ka_lota]

I think there are Manhoos people/things and bad omen. You need some kind of taveez or ring to neutralize their effect.

 

[ahmed778]

One day i was driving to Faisalabad at about 3 am with my Father, my Father was asleep and i too was feeling a bit tired and sleepy. I stopped to take a leak at the gas station. I got in the car and started driving i started feeling a bit dizzy i almost fell asleep but out of nowhere a cow appeared with red eye's staring at my heart froze i had seen many cow's during the day while driving but this was the first one i had seen with such red eyes staring at me. I hit the brakes my father woke up after hitting the brakes i went out of the car to see if the cow was alive or not and when i went there there was nothing at all no sign of a cow. It shouldn't surprise you when i tell you that the incident that i just mentioned is completely false.

 

[Indiafan]

One day i was driving to Faisalabad at about 3 am with my Father, my Father was asleep and i too was feeling a bit tired and sleepy. I stopped to take a leak at the gas station. I got in the car and started driving i started feeling a bit dizzy i almost fell asleep but out of nowhere a cow appeared with red eye's staring at my heart froze i had seen many cow's during the day while driving but this was the first one i had seen with such red eyes staring at me. I hit the brakes my father woke up after hitting the brakes i went out of the car to see if the cow was alive or not and when i went there there was nothing at all no sign of a cow. It shouldn't surprise you when i tell you that the incident that i just mentioned is completely false.

Thats what comes out of eating beef. You get such crazy dreams of cows plotting revenge

 

[Express Pace]

There is no such thing I'm afraid. The mind is very powerful, if you believe that you are under a curse of some sort, your body will start to show symptoms. Anxiety, Depression have a wide range of physical effects on body, your ailments could be linked to this.

 

[GentleMan]

if you believe in God, you also believe in Satan...if God can listen to you, then why can't Satan listen to someone who believes in him? if praying and worship works, then why can't black magic work?

i was bitten by a dog and was taken to the local witch doctor..he took a lump of clay and started removing it bit by bit..and came with a dog hair..the hair colour was same as that of the dog that bit me.. but some people in my family didnt believe in all this so they made me take anti rabies injection... although i dont know what worked for me.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

By the way doing majic on others is a great sin in Islam so why would Taliban do that? Or any muslim for that matter as it takes one out of the fold of islam. '

Killing innocent people is also a great sin in Islam but that doesn't seem to stop the Taliban.

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

if you believe in God, you also believe in Satan...if God can listen to you, then why can't Satan listen to someone who believes in him? if praying and worship works, then why can't black magic work?

i was bitten by a dog and was taken to the local witch doctor..he took a lump of clay and started removing it bit by bit..and came with a dog hair..the hair colour was same as that of the dog that bit me.. but some people in my family didnt believe in all this so they made me take anti rabies injection... although i dont know what worked for me.

Thankfully you took the rabies injection.

 

[speed]

And they followed [instead] what the devils had recited during the reign of Solomon. It was not Solomon who disbelieved, but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed to the two angels at Babylon, Harut and Marut. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, "We are a trial, so do not disbelieve [by practicing magic]." And [yet] they learn from them that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife. But they do not harm anyone through it except by permission of Allah . And the people learn what harms them and does not benefit them. But the Children of Israel certainly knew that whoever purchased the magic would not have in the Hereafter any share. And wretched is that for which they sold themselves, if they only knew. [2:102]

Don't know about taveez or sihr but magic was practiced during the time of Solomon(pbuh), and maybe still is.

 

[GentleMan]

i understand atheists saying that black magic doesn't exist...but religious people not believing in it..sorry your arguments doesnt cut the mustard. when it comes to God then become believers and when it comes to black magic become stephen hawking.

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

What the quran describes exists.

Tahweez is nonsense.

 

[6xafridi]

Whatever you do, do not resort to taweez! Have faith in Allah and use what has been prescribed to fight off black magic (Ruqiyah)

 

[QazzarFan]

LOL @black magic. 2013.....2013!

 

[James]

What the quran describes exists.

What's that?

 

[shokz1408]

I don't believe in any of this.

People who believe they suffer from so called 'black magic' etc have some psychological issues that need to be addressed. Likewise other believed paranormal activities can also be explained on a psychological level.

A word of advice; Don't believe anything, that isn't based on personal experience.

 

[cricketworm]

Good to see rhussain is getting proper medical help. It's life-long thing, you just have to make adjustments in your life with help of either behavior therapy or/and medicines.

Honestly, if you have depression or psychiatric illness, UK and North America are one of the best places to be in because there is little social stigma (which is crap) involved! And there is proper help for these diseases, then why not get it!!

 

[spinDoc]

Jazakallah Khayr Malik Mohsin for your posts and explanations regarding this issue, I share the same views as you but are unable to put them in words.. I thank you very much indeed for your patience and understanding, maybe we could speak to eahcother privateley it would be great



James, I have been running to the doctors for the last 6 years, complaining of fatigue and inability to do normal little living this likes shopping etc i just lose all my energy and feel like im about to collapse, things have worsened since then, my heads and legs are heavy and aching all the time, every single day, i cant understand it, I cant get to sleep without sleeping tablets, if i dont sleep i be more ill and bed ridden, my biggest challenge right now is refraining from suicide, things never used to be like this, I was happily married with kids, and was working as a helpdesk analyst for 3 years commuting every day, used to be healthy, last 6 years everything has broke down, health, wealth, mind, relationships, relgious prayers etc... The doctors are absolutely useless, I have given up with them, all they are good for now is giving me sleeping tablets so i can get a good 7 hours sleep so i am not ill the next day and I can pick my kids up from school at home time, or spend some time with them in evening reading books etc. Nothing has been diagnosed as to what the cause of this pain is apart from depression, and anti depressents which gave me more side effects and did not want to continue with them and gave up with

And please explain to me why my legs start excessively shaking when I go to the mosque to read prayers in congregation ??

And why i start screaming in agony when I am trying to relieve all these wierd pains in my legs by pressing them and massaging them and hitting them with a stick ??

So come on sir help me out here as I dont wanna be existent in this scum of a planet and life no more, i Just want it to be all black and this misery to end.

Restless leg syndrome.

i am from a backward village back home were 1/10 ppl believe they are jadofied.

I dont have enough information to decide if jadoo exists or not.

but it amaze me that no european/ausi/american every get jadofied ,also back in pak there are jin in every dark corner or at night in graveyards or under trees in dark(many ppl have claimed to have seen them ,even ppl in my faimly) but travelling through the deserts of aus and dark forests at night in deserted areas in west i have never met any one who claims to have seen or heard any jin????

i dont know if the op have jin or not but been a doctor i can tell u that all his symptoms suggests depression/phobia/anxiety +/- effects of sleeping pill plus throw in restless leg syndrome , sleeping pills and benzodiazapines cause dry mouth/throat as well, and once u decide that this is due to jin then its a slippery slope.

when i was working in pak every day we would see pts who had jin but working in west for 10yrs i have never come across a single person who believes he is under influence of jin.

Then again as i said in start i dont have enough information about jin/jadoo but i know truth is stranger then fiction.

My advice is to see a Muslim psychiatrist who would atleast have heard of jadoo and be more understanding/sympathatic and might think out of the box.

Aslo have u tried hypnosis?

 

[spinDoc]

I know three people that are very close to me that have been through this.

Two are relatives.

But are known to be somewhat the attention seeking types so always take what they say with a grain of salt.

Basically one of them thinks she had black magic done on her by a family who wanted to marry their son to her. Ever since she has been going crazy over how badly she wants this guy and how she wants to get married. Wierd thing is she doesn't remember who the guy is (only met once and she didn't really notice him)

Another relative had wierd things happen like dark black powder coming out of her hands and skin. She would wash her hands and in front of everyone they would get this black ashy powder on them again. Wierd.

The other is a close friend. Who has been diagnosed with bipolar. He believes some guys from a Muslim youth club got together and performed some crap on him. Ever since he has been very sick. But AH the medications and treatment he underwent has helped him now. Was a very religious guy. He believes him drinking alcohol sparked it all. God knows best.

One of my uncles said he went to a pir in Pakistan on his last visit and wanted to test the whole thing out. So he went to a place where the pir got a young prepubescent boy to sit in as mediator to communicate. They asked the little boy whether he can see anyone else in the room and he could see an old man with a long beard. The old man then proceeded to answer questions from the little boy that were specifically asked to prove knowledge of the unseen (ie secrets were revealed in minute detail)

I think it might happen in reality in very rare circumstances. But 99% would be the work of charlatans duping innocent naive villagers.

Basically whenever money is mentioned it is a scam.

Did u see that yourself??

 

[TM Riddle]

one of my cousin didi knows the method of summoning aatmas(spirits) .it requires a piece of paper on which English alphabets and Roman numbers are written , a coin and a dark room with 3 burning candles...3 people would place their index fingers on the coin then she would murmur few spells and coin would start moving on its own.!! you can ask questions to the spirit and it would answer you with the help of alphabets and numbers..we used to do it a lot in childhood..and spirit answered 90% questions correctly...

 

[shah_1]

@TM riddle

This is all bull crap, there is NO bloody thing as that, ask your friend to not to put his Index finger on the coin while the coin is moving, then I would believe it.

 

[TM Riddle]

I know its fake buddy as I myself don't believe in this stuff anymore but the real question is how on earth it(if it was there ) was able to guess the answers correctly?

 

[TM Riddle]

anyone heard about bhangarh??
Bhangarh is a place between Jaipur and
Delhi in Rajasthan state of India known
for its ruins. Bhangarh is also a pre-
historic site. The most remarkable of its
buildings are the temples of Gopinath ,
Shiva (Someshwar), Mangla Devi, Lavina
Devi and Keshava Rai. Other buildings
include shops along the main road,
several havelis, a mosque, and a palace.
[3] The palace was protected by two
inner fortifications across the valley. The
town is separated from the plain by
ramparts with five gates.
The town was established in 1573 (VS
1631) during the rule of Bhagwant Das as
the residence of his second son Madho
Singh, the younger brother of Emperor
Akbar ’s general, Man Singh I . Madho
Singh participated in many campaigns
with his father and brother. The next
ruler of Bhangarh was his son Chhatr
Singh, [4] after whose death in 1630,[5]
Bhangarh slowly declined. When the
Mughal Empire became weaker after the
death of Aurangzeb, Jai Singh II attached
Bhangarh to his state by force in 1720.
After this Bhangarh diminished in
population, and since the famine of 1783
(VS 1840) the town has remained
uninhabited. [6]
Entry to Bhangarh is legally prohibited
between sunset and sunrise. A signboard
posted by ASI (Archaeological Survey of
India), which is a Government of India
organization, specifies the instructions.
While the board is written in Hindi, the
instructions on it roughly translate into:
"Entering the borders of Bhangarh before
sunrise and after sunset is strictly
prohibited. Legal action would be taken
against anybody who does not follow
these instructions".
cool isn't it? esp the signboard part:umarakmal

 

[Indiafan]

I know its fake buddy as I myself don't believe in this stuff anymore but the real question is how on earth it(if it was there ) was able to guess the answers correctly?

Your hands move the piece across the Ouija board due to involuntary movements in your muscles, which are called the ideomotor effect. Basically, your brain can and will move your muscles without your express permission because, for the most part, your body kinda operates on autopilot anyway. It's just usually not brought to your attention (you'll notice it the next time a light stops working in a room, but you unconsciously keep flipping the switch every time you walk in anyway).

So with the Ouija board, you subconsciously think of a response to the question and your brain subtly moves the planchette where it wants it. Maybe not enough for it to work if you were using the board alone (though it is for some people -- it's likely how water dowsing works), but when you get a few people together and they're all subconsciously pulling, it creates the distinct sensation that the planchette is moving on its own accord


It's so weird that the explanation itself sounds like ********. But if you want further proof that it's us humans doing all the soothsaying, just check out this experiment, where magicians Penn & Teller blindfolded some random people, flipped the Ouija board 180 degrees and had them try to contact the spirit of the guy who played Fred Mertz on I Love Lucy. The results are less than startling.



In theory, ghosts should be able to direct their hands no matter the orientation of the board, right? Turns out, without being able to see the board, they just kinda move their hands to where they think the letters are.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19506_6-scary-tricks-that-amazed-us-as-kids-explained-by-science.html

 

[shah_1]

I know its fake buddy as I myself don't believe in this stuff anymore but the real question is how on earth it(if it was there ) was able to guess the answers correctly?

what type of questions?

 

[TM Riddle]

http://www.cracked.com/article_19506_6-scary-tricks-that-amazed-us-as-kids-explained-by-science.html

but there were times when someone who wasn't part of the game(finger not on coin) asked questions and answers were positive.

 

[TM Riddle]

what type of questions?

random ones ..like whats my best friends name..what would be my future career..even outcomes of cricket matches

 

[unknownnn]

Hello, Does anyone know anyone good who can cure black magic as I am suffering too.. please can anyone help?

 

[in_cutter]

Hello, Does anyone know anyone good who can cure black magic as I am suffering too.. please can anyone help?

Seek help from Allah

 

[shaz619]

Sometimes you feel like laughing at someone who claims to be duelling with the dark side but then you realise that they are having some serious problems so it's no laughing matter, as far as a cure is concerned am not sure what can be done because it can also be a mental issue and I don't think drugs etc help with depression, anxieties etc but my advice would be for those who are ill to confide in their loved ones or find someone whom they could trust, it might even be a therapist but talking and keeping close to those who care about you may help on the road to getting your feet running because such problems can affect you in all facets of life.

 

[Halaribo]

Hello, Does anyone know anyone good who can cure black magic as I am suffering too.. please can anyone help?

Yes, I can.

For a modest sum of £1000 per week, I'll read the 4 Quls, Ayat ul Kursi and pray for Allah to give you salvation from your worries. I can do this 5 times a day, 7 days a week, 12 months of the year.

Or you can do it yourself. For free.

 

[Savak]

Are there any confirmed religious scholars who can provide the right guidance, things to do if you strongly feel if you have been plagued with black magic?

The way my mom has fallen ill with Multiple System Atrophy and how it is progressing so rapidly, she requested me to research and try to find the right sort of treatment available if you suspect you have black magic

 

[troodon]

Hello, Does anyone know anyone good who can cure black magic as I am suffering too.. please can anyone help?

Visit a qualified Psychiatrist and get therapy started. There are medicines available to treat symptoms.