Archer & Roy found guilty of breaching ICC Code of Conduct & Pakistan fined for over rate offence

[MenInG]

Archer & Roy found guilty of breaching ICC Code of Conduct & Pakistan fined for over rate offence

England’s Jofra Archer and Jason Roy have each been fined 15% of their match fee for breaching Level One of the ICC Code of Conduct during the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup match between England and Pakistan at Trent Bridge today. Whilst Pakistan captain Sarafraz Ahmed has been fined for a minor over rate offence the same game.

Jason Roy was found to have breached Article 2.3 ICC Code of Conduct for Players and Player Support Personnel, which relates to using audible obscenities in an international match. In addition to the 15% fine, one demerit point has been added to Roy’s disciplinary record.

The incident occurred during the 14th over of Pakistan’s innings when Roy used an audible obscenity after misfielding which was clearly heard by the umpires.

Archer was found to have breached Article 2.8 of the ICC Code of Conduct for Players and Player Support Personnel, which relates to showing dissent at an umpire’s decision.

The incident occurred in the 27th over of Pakistan’s innings, when Archer showed obvious dissent following a wide delivery. In addition to the 15% fine, one demerit point has been added to the disciplinary record of Archer.

Pakistan Captain Sarfaraz Ahmed was fined 20% of his match fee whilst his teammates were fined 10% each following a minor over rate breach after Pakistan was ruled to be one over short of its target after time allowances were taken into consideration.

All three players admitted the offence and accepted the sanction proposed by match referee Jeff Crowe of the Emirates Elite Panel of ICC Match Referees and, as such, there was no need for a formal hearing.

On-field umpires Marais Erasmus and S Ravi, third umpire Ruchira Palliyaguruge and fourth official Chris Gaffney levelled the charges.

Source : ICC

 

[Usman]

Hang on a second. England went WAY over their allotted time too, even when you make allowances for wickets falling. Not impressed at all - this puts Sarfraz at risk of suspension at some point during the WC!

 

[Sarwar89]

All the time specially from Jonathan Agnew of BBC we were listening Jofra Archer.
Jofra Archer the 90 mph bowler. Jofra Archer the power hitter. And BBC instructed TMS Commentators to take his name fully instead of singular first name or last name.
In the end Jofra Archer flopped like pack of cards. Got 0 Wickets, scored nothing runs and fined for match as well.
I can only think of Jonathan Woodgate's debut in Real Madrid which went worse than this.

 

[reversehook]

wait, when there were 4.3 overs left in pak innings, commies said morgan is waaay behind over rate.... (scratches head)...

 

[James]

All the time specially from Jonathan Agnew of BBC we were listening Jofra Archer.
Jofra Archer the 90 mph bowler. Jofra Archer the power hitter. And BBC instructed TMS Commentators to take his name fully instead of singular first name or last name.
In the end Jofra Archer flopped like pack of cards. Got 0 Wickets, scored nothing runs and fined for match as well.
I can only think of Jonathan Woodgate's debut in Real Madrid which went worse than this.

Archer took 3 wickets against South Africa and has also put Amla on the sidelines with his fast short-pitched bowling.

 

[Haroon786]

All the time specially from Jonathan Agnew of BBC we were listening Jofra Archer.
Jofra Archer the 90 mph bowler. Jofra Archer the power hitter. And BBC instructed TMS Commentators to take his name fully instead of singular first name or last name.
In the end Jofra Archer flopped like pack of cards. Got 0 Wickets, scored nothing runs and fined for match as well.
I can only think of Jonathan Woodgate's debut in Real Madrid which went worse than this.

He might have floundered against Pakistan's inspired batting but he beat SA into submission with his brutal 90mph thunderbolts, even knocked Amla out of the match - effectively taking 4 wickets. Archer is worth his weight in gold for England; if you are able to effectively counter him then that will go a big way towards beating England or at least batting well.

 

[Ronaldo7]

wait, when there were 4.3 overs left in pak innings, commies said morgan is waaay behind over rate.... (scratches head)...

Over rate tells you how long you should take to complete one over.
So he maybe should have completed the 45th over in 220 minutes but he may have took 240 mins mins hence behind the over rate.

 

[Pete Rose]

Archer was pushing it a bit. Don’t agree (although it’s within the laws) with punishment for Roy.

 

[The Googly]

A bit disappointed with England. Morgan and Root made comments which whilst not directly accusing Pakistan of ball tampering, kind of left the door open. Yet they forgot to add that the umpires actually warned England of abusing the ball in the exact same way.

And Roy?? What a clown. In future, all teams should open with spinners against Roy and sledge him. The guy clearly cannot handle both these facets of the game. His exit was embarrassing. Moaning to the umpire about sledging. Muppet.

 

[The Googly]

Eid Mubarak everyone!!

 

[topspin]

Hang on a second. England went WAY over their allotted time too, even when you make allowances for wickets falling. Not impressed at all - this puts Sarfraz at risk of suspension at some point during the WC!

If that is the case, this makes Inzi look so incompetent for not picking a back-up keeper in the squad.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Weren't England way behind the clock in the first innings?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

If that is the case, this makes Inzi look so incompetent for not picking a back-up keeper in the squad.

Rizwan is in England as back up wk

 

[topspin]

Rizwan is in England as back up wk

That will only work if a player is injured and this isn't something that can be faked because it has to be diagnosed by an independent body.

Inzy clearly didn't consider this scenario.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

That will only work if a player is injured and this isn't something that can be faked because it has to be diagnosed by an independent body.

Inzy clearly didn't consider this scenario.

Trust me. It’s not hard to get a player “injured”

 

[Rana]

Who did Jason Roy have a spat with?

i cant believe the guy was so out of sorts yesterday.

 

[Technics 1210]

Why has Cricket become such a snowflake game of late? Tempers rise, words are said, always good to see some spice in the game. Just no need to fine!

 

[Major]

sarfraz only gets ban if his team breeches the over rate in another match.

I think the technical committee will allow mohammad rizwan to be added in the squad as keeper wouldn't they? There must be rule regarding keepers in this case.

But i have read somewhere that they had been training babar azam as keeper for sometime.

 

[MenInG]

Who did Jason Roy have a spat with?

i cant believe the guy was so out of sorts yesterday.

something happened when he was out - think Sarf and he.

 

[jnaveen1980]

wait, when there were 4.3 overs left in pak innings, commies said morgan is waaay behind over rate.... (scratches head)...

Haven't we discussed about this to death when Holder was banned for over rate even though WI handed a thrashing to England with lot of overs left?

 

[HitWicket]

Haven't we discussed about this to death when Holder was banned for over rate even though WI handed a thrashing to England with lot of overs left?

Funnily enough no one seemed as interested/outraged when Morgan was banned for a slow over rate when England thrashed Pakistan with loads of overs left (thereby finishing the game well within the allocated time).

 

[shaz619]

Hang on a second. England went WAY over their allotted time too, even when you make allowances for wickets falling. Not impressed at all - this puts Sarfraz at risk of suspension at some point during the WC!

If that is the case, this makes Inzi look so incompetent for not picking a back-up keeper in the squad.

That will only work if a player is injured and this isn't something that can be faked because it has to be diagnosed by an independent body.

Inzy clearly didn't consider this scenario.

sarfraz only gets ban if his team breeches the over rate in another match.

I think the technical committee will allow mohammad rizwan to be added in the squad as keeper wouldn't they? There must be rule regarding keepers in this case.

But i have read somewhere that they had been training babar azam as keeper for sometime.

There is a way around this, name someone else a captain but only by name; that way Sarfraz doesn't have the official title and can avoid a ban whilst retaining control on field.

 

[PakPremi]

Radio Commies were claiming that England were well behinds the time as well. So why Only Sarfraz got fined ?

 

[HitWicket]

Radio Commies were claiming that England were well behinds the time as well. So why Only Sarfraz got fined ?

Although time isn't the only factor considered, Pakistan took 5 minutes longer to bowl their 50 overs than England did.

 

[KyoOne]

Biased icc umpires/referee. Clearly giving Morgan a free chit despite him being more late than Sarf

 

[KyoOne]

Pakistan didn't take longer, don't make up things

 

[HitWicket]

Pakistan didn't take longer, don't make up things

The match started at 10:30. You will find posts in this thread timestaped 14:19 that indicate the innings has ended. That's 229 minutes.

The interval was then reduced to 30 minutes as you'll find by people stating Shadab opening the bowling here in posts timestamped 14:48

The final wicket fell at 18:42 as you'll find from the post timestamps here. That's 233 minutes.

Remind me who's making things up again?

 

[HitWicket]

The match started at 10:30. You will find posts in this thread timestaped 14:19 that indicate the innings has ended. That's 229 minutes.

The interval was then reduced to 30 minutes as you'll find by people stating Shadab opening the bowling here in posts timestamped 14:48

The final wicket fell at 18:42 as you'll find from the post timestamps here. That's 233 minutes.

Remind me who's making things up again?

Actually I've just remembered that only 9 wickets fell. It was 233 minutes until Archer got out. There was still 8 balls left to be bowled at that moment meaning it took even longer than that.

 

[Chokli]

There is a way around this, name someone else a captain but only by name; that way Sarfraz doesn't have the official title and can avoid a ban whilst retaining control on field.

Exactly this

 

[jnaveen1980]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/c...t-let-rivals-rile-like-Pakistan-did-well.html

England must not let rivals rile them like Pakistan did to such great effect

Just as England can now expect to face a spinner at the start of all their World Cup innings, they will also have to cope with opponents trying extra hard to wind them up.

A far bigger concern for the hot favourites than defeat at the hands of Pakistan on Monday was the way England lost their cool in the face of relatively mild provocation, which will surely be ramped up for the rest of the tournament.

The fines the ICC handed out on Tuesday to Jason Roy and Jofra Archer after the thrilling, fractious 14-run defeat at Trent Bridge were symbolic of a worrying lack of discipline in the field from a usually relaxed and fearless England.

Now they will not only have to beat Bangladesh in a massive game at Cardiff on Saturday, but also prove they are not affected by the pressure and expectations that came with their spectacular rise to the top of the 50-over world.

After his outstanding start to the tournament against South Africa, Roy in particular appeared to feel the heat in Nottingham.

His error-riddled display was so hot-headed that captain Eoin Morgan at one stage banished him from cover point.

In truth, a fine of 15 per cent of Roy's match fee, for breaching level one of the ICC code of conduct, is an overly officious punishment from a governing body that specialises in pedantry, rather than tackling the game's biggest issues.

Roy may well have been guilty of mouthing an 'audible obscenity' after a misfield, but really, is that such a big deal?

It is highly unlikely any spectator in a heaving Trent Bridge would have heard him - let alone been offended by what he said - so unless umpires Marais Erasmus and S Ravi are more delicate than imagined and took issue, it seems heavy-handed.

The same punishment for Archer, for dissent towards an umpire for signalling a wide, was more justified. It was also a reminder of the inexperience of a rare talent who will suffer bad days like this, as well as plenty of good ones.

It could have been worse and England should be relieved it was Pakistan captain Sarfaraz Ahmed who was fined for a poor over-rate rather than Morgan, after the hosts took 19 minutes longer than allotted to bowl their 50 overs.

Morgan has already missed one game this year for a poor over-rate - against Pakistan at Bristol - and he could easily have been suspended for two matches now or been handed a final warning that would have been hanging over him throughout the World Cup.

England could leave out leg-spinner Adil Rashid, who does not look fully fit with a shoulder problem, for Cardiff's short straight boundaries on Saturday. That would place extra emphasis on Morgan to get a move on against Bangladesh.

Just as big a concern is the way England were distracted by the Pakistan supporters in the Trent Bridge crowd, and their obsession with their opponents' apparent attempts to scuff up the white balls by throwing them into the ground.

It was the unlikely figure of Chris Woakes who 'shushed' Pakistan supporters after taking an excellent catch in front of them, but far more predictable was the sight of Roy and Ben Stokes joining in with gestures as the umpires told England to cool it.

'It was just a bit of banter, really,' insisted Woakes. 'I was copping a bit of abuse, as you do from the opposition. When I took the catch it was just a little "shhh". I always do it with a smile on my face.'

There will be plenty more where that came from, and England must deal with it. They would also be best advised not to hint at malpractice with the ball by Pakistan when they were also warned for the same offence. And the ball was not exactly reverse swinging around corners after Pakistan got their hands on it.

At least England know that Bangladesh, who beat South Africa at the Oval on Sunday, do not have a frontline leg-spinner, so cannot repeat the opening bowling success of Imran Tahir and Shadab Khan in dismissing Jonny Bairstow and Roy respectively.

Instead, they can expect to see slow left-armer Shakib Al Hasan or one of his spinning compatriots take one of the new balls.

'I don't think it was a car crash by any means,' said Woakes of a fielding performance described by Nasser Hussain in Sportsmail as one of the worst he has seen from this England team. 'We are going to have our ups and downs and it's how we bounce back.

'We're looking to play our best cricket in every game. This time we didn't but we are looking to bring it back in Cardiff. You probably want to lose one in this fashion sooner rather than later.

'You don't want a performance like that in a more high-pressure game, a must-win. The good thing about this group is that when we've had a bad performance, we've bounced back very well.'

The need for them to bounce back quickly has suddenly become imperative.

 

[jnaveen1980]

They have gone from scoring 500 and bringing the cup home to having self doubts about beating Bangladesh ) In Ather Ali khan style MY WORD what a turnaround. They thought they were going to "mentally disintegrate" Aussies by sledging, now bunch of Pak fans have riled them really badly and they already need some psychological counselling.

 

[Chokli]

The over rate issue houldn't even be a thing just for the World Cup.

Also if Sarfaraz is punished Morgan should have been punished too.

 

[Braveheart]

A bit disappointed with England. Morgan and Root made comments which whilst not directly accusing Pakistan of ball tampering, kind of left the door open. Yet they forgot to add that the umpires actually warned England of abusing the ball in the exact same way.

And Roy?? What a clown. In future, all teams should open with spinners against Roy and sledge him. The guy clearly cannot handle both these facets of the game. His exit was embarrassing. Moaning to the umpire about sledging. Muppet.

I've got no time for Root the whinging 'Snake'.
He has previous too with the Shannon Gabriel Incident, whereby he manipulated an on-field 'spat' and got Gabriel into hot water with the authorities.

 

[Green Patriot]

Trust me. It’s not hard to get a player “injured”

That player must have an injury serious enough to be effectively ruled out of the tournament if somebody outside the 15 has to replace him.Who do you see will be sent back home to accomodate Rizwan?
Definitely not Sarfaraz.

 

[HitWicket]

I've got no time for Root the whinging 'Snake'.
He has previous too with the Shannon Gabriel Incident, whereby he manipulated an on-field 'spat' and got Gabriel into hot water with the authorities.

In what way did he manipulate it? He asked Gabriel (on the field) not to use comments that were homophobic and left it at that.

 

[pratiktc]

There is a way around this, name someone else a captain but only by name; that way Sarfraz doesn't have the official title and can avoid a ban whilst retaining control on field.

Nope. After Sanga and Jaya did this in World T20, ICC cracked down on it. The tournament nominated captain will be fined/suspended accordingly unless he is not a part of the playing XI

 

[classic]

Hang on a second. England went WAY over their allotted time too, even when you make allowances for wickets falling. Not impressed at all - this puts Sarfraz at risk of suspension at some point during the WC!

They know we Don't have a spare wicket keeper.. Sarfraz needs to be careful here.

 

[Braveheart]

In what way did he manipulate it? He asked Gabriel (on the field) not to use comments that were homophobic and left it at that.

Gabriel to Root:
‘Why are you smiling at me? Do you like boys?’
To which Root then deliberately positioned himself near the Umpire and stump Mic (like a child telling the teacher) and loudly replied ‘Don’t use it as an insult. There’s nothing wrong with being gay.’
With the current ‘PC’ climate, Gabriel was found to be in the wrong but Root is no Angel either. (Excuse the Pun).

 

[HitWicket]

Gabriel to Root:
‘Why are you smiling at me? Do you like boys?’
To which Root then deliberately positioned himself near the Umpire and stump Mic (like a child telling the teacher) and loudly replied ‘Don’t use it as an insult. There’s nothing wrong with being gay.’
With the current ‘PC’ climate, Gabriel was found to be in the wrong but Root is no Angel either. (Excuse the Pun).

Root was stood in the middle of the pitch with Stokes, exactly where you'd expect him to be stood at the end of an over. Funnily enough that's pretty close to as far from stump mic as you'd expect a batsman to get during their innings. He replied to Gabriel's comment pretty much instantly.

 

[hadi123]

I've got no time for Root the whinging 'Snake'.
He has previous too with the Shannon Gabriel Incident, whereby he manipulated an on-field 'spat' and got Gabriel into hot water with the authorities.

Some of the worst logic ever. He stood up for gay people yet you claim he manipulated the situation. Believe what you want to believe though

 

[last_knight]

That player must have an injury serious enough to be effectively ruled out of the tournament if somebody outside the 15 has to replace him.Who do you see will be sent back home to accomodate Rizwan?
Definitely not Sarfaraz.

For the records, Injury is not exclusively Physical. A psychological issue itself is good enough to validate replacement. Unlike Physical injury, people can "fake" a psychological illness.

But no need for that. Sarfaraz is safe enough. Even if he isn't, Babar may keep. No need for a replacement.

 

[Green Patriot]

For the records, Injury is not exclusively Physical. A psychological issue itself is good enough to validate replacement. Unlike Physical injury, people can "fake" a psychological illness.

But no need for that. Sarfaraz is safe enough. Even if he isn't, Babar may keep. No need for a replacement.

I am not referring to the nature of the injury rather the fact that it would rule out the said player from the tournament and not just that particular match and therefore its not going to be easy to bring in a player from outside the 15.

 

[last_knight]

I am not referring to the nature of the injury rather the fact that it would rule out the said player from the tournament and not just that particular match and therefore its not going to be easy to bring in a player from outside the 15.

As much as this is true, they can have anyone other than Sarfaraz to fake the injury. Husnain/Sohail out of world cup will not effect seniors.

But at this level, it's very unusual. Even if Sarfaraz gets a ban, he will be back after one match. Not a big deal.

 

[Green Patriot]

As much as this is true, they can have anyone other than Sarfaraz to fake the injury. Husnain/Sohail out of world cup will not effect seniors.

But at this level, it's very unusual. Even if Sarfaraz gets a ban, he will be back after one match. Not a big deal.

Nevertheless not an easy decision to drop a player who might be needed later and certainly doesnt deserve to be forced to fake an injury for a wicketkeeper who will not play any match except the one in which Sarfaraz has to sit out.
Hence i think they would probably not fake an injury rather just use Babar,costly though it maybe,as was mentioned in the reports earlier.

 

[last_knight]

Nevertheless not an easy decision to drop a player who might be needed later and certainly doesnt deserve to be forced to fake an injury for a wicketkeeper who will not play any match except the one in which Sarfaraz has to sit out.
Hence i think they would probably not fake an injury rather just use Babar,costly though it maybe,as was mentioned in the reports earlier.

Exactly.
Regular WKs have made mistakes in this WC so far. Not every mistake is a game changer.
Buttler against SA
Sarfaraz against Eng
Mushfiq against NZ

If the captain is banned for a match and over rate is slow in that match also, this can be a concern for stand-in captain.

 

[Braveheart]

Root was stood in the middle of the pitch with Stokes, exactly where you'd expect him to be stood at the end of an over. Funnily enough that's pretty close to as far from stump mic as you'd expect a batsman to get during their innings. He replied to Gabriel's comment pretty much instantly.

You obviously haven't seen the footage. He was actually batting with Denley and not Stokes and is clearly mouthing off at Gabriel accross umpire Dharmasena.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/8408040/joe-root-shannon-gabriel-homophobic-abuse/

 

[Gilly]

Root sounds like that guy off The Office, Gareth I think.

 

[HitWicket]

You obviously haven't seen the footage. He was actually batting with Denley and not Stokes and is clearly mouthing off at Gabriel accross umpire Dharmasena.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/8408040/joe-root-shannon-gabriel-homophobic-abuse/

Not sure it's particularly relevant who was at the other end? Fact of matter is he was stood in the middle of the pitch and responded to Gabriel's homophobic comment instantly. Root was perfectly correct and justified in doing what he did, unlike Gabriel.

 

[Technics 1210]

Some of the worst logic ever. He stood up for gay people yet you claim he manipulated the situation. Believe what you want to believe though

The illogical and weak aspect of what Root said, was that he conflated the comment 'do you like boys' to homophobia.

It's like saying 'do you like muslims' is akin to Islamophobia.

Root overreacted.

 

[HitWicket]

The illogical and weak aspect of what Root said, was that he conflated the comment 'do you like boys' to homophobia.

It's like saying 'do you like muslims' is akin to Islamophobia.

Root overreacted.

He blatantly asked the question as an attempt to mock/insult him by suggesting he way gay. If you ask someone if they like Muslims as a way to mock them by suggesting that they do then of course that's Islamaphobia.

 

[Indiafan]

Gabriel to Root:
‘Why are you smiling at me? Do you like boys?’
To which Root then deliberately positioned himself near the Umpire and stump Mic (like a child telling the teacher) and loudly replied ‘Don’t use it as an insult. There’s nothing wrong with being gay.’
With the current ‘PC’ climate, Gabriel was found to be in the wrong but Root is no Angel either. (Excuse the Pun).

Imagine being such a human being that you think being a decent person is being PC while being a bigot is ok. If Gabriel had said something about religion you would be the first one to protest

 

[Technics 1210]

Snowflakes galore. England players of the old (80s) would have been tougher and would have responded something along the lines of "yes, you interested?" - and both would have laughed it off. Instead Root is now known as the boy would cried all the way to the teacher.

Also got to love how some people assume what Gabriel was thinking. Many English fans on forums said Root over reacted. Then again, Harbajen was cleary a racist vs Symonds but that's ok, because we shouldnt assume in his case.

Brilliant.