Are Indian bowlers faster than Pakistani bowlers?

[Saj]

At the moment yes they are.

Pakistan do not have out and out pace bowlers these days, whereas the likes of Shami are hitting the 90mph mark. The others like Bumrah, Pandya and Ishant are 85mph plus.

 

[Buffet]

On average , Indian pacers have bowled faster than Eng's pacers in this test. On average as unit, they are faster than Pakistani bowling unit.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

The fastest bowler ever produced by both teams was an Indian. Unfortunately he did not get to show the world of his pace.

However he was still faster than any bowler from Pakistan or anywhere in the world for that and made Shoaib look like a trundler.

Well said. Atul would have easily reached 200 mph.

 

[Syed1]

Well said. Atul would have easily reached 200 mph.

And that's just his running speed, now imagine how fast the ball must be going.

 

[TM Riddle]

I am more impressed by Shami than anyone else tbh. The guy looks like a middle aged soon-to-be-retired Uncle and yet consistently bowled in 140s touching 145Ks quite often.

 

[BlackShadow]

Bumrah is faster than shami.

It won't be the case for long if Bumrah keeps getting over-bowled like this. Poor guy bowled 29 overs today, while the next highest was Ashwin with 22. That's a lot!

 

[ManFan]

I am more impressed by Shami than anyone else tbh. The guy looks like a middle aged soon-to-be-retired Uncle and yet consistently bowled in 140s touching 145Ks quite often.

He’s incredibly fit.

It’s just that he has a beard and a receding hairline.

 

[Josh]

I am more impressed by Shami than anyone else tbh. The guy looks like a middle aged soon-to-be-retired Uncle and yet consistently bowled in 140s touching 145Ks quite often.

I thought Bumrah was bowling faster.

 

[Bewal Express]

Yes is the simple answer.

 

[JaDed]

After two massive thrashings, they have one good day and the trolls are coming out of the woodwork... sums up Indian fans on PP! Hahaha

Just one thrashing actually.

 

[BlackShadow]

I thought Bumrah was bowling faster.

Bumrah bowled 29 overs, Shami bowled something like 18. Different roles today, hence a higher average pace for Shami.

 

[cricketindiafan]

It’s good to have 4-5 skilful seamers who can bowl 85 mph on an average and at times touch 89-90 miles. We have never had such luxury. Add Bhuvi with his skills to the mix and it does make for a strong bowling unit.

 

[Rightarmfast]

At the moment yes they are.

Pakistan do not have out and out pace bowlers these days, whereas the likes of Shami are hitting the 90mph mark. The others like Bumrah, Pandya and Ishant are 85mph plus.

Wait a while. Bumrah has just come back from an injury. Normally he goes upto a top speed of 148ish. So Umesh and him bowl close to 92mph as their top speeds normally. Umesh can go further up, Bumrah has gone upto 149 I think as his fastest delivery.

 

[lehen]

Wait a while. Bumrah has just come back from an injury. Normally he goes upto a top speed of 148ish. So Umesh and him bowl close to 92mph as their top speeds normally. Umesh can go further up, Bumrah has gone upto 149 I think as his fastest delivery.

Umesh is finished I am afraid, faded away bcz of lack of application (Read Brain) move on to Maavi and Nagarkoti now

 

[Majid Khan]

I would agree, Indian bowlers are faster at getting through their overs and have a more impressive over rate than Pakistani bowlers generally.

 

[Rightarmfast]

Umesh is finished I am afraid, faded away bcz of lack of application (Read Brain) move on to Maavi and Nagarkoti now

I wouldnt write him off. But I would to a large extent agree with you. I think he still has a year of cricket left in him if used properly. Needs a good mentor with him always

 

[cricketjoshila]

Umesh is finished I am afraid, faded away bcz of lack of application (Read Brain) move on to Maavi and Nagarkoti now

Umesh isnt finished. Its sad that he doesnot get regular chances as our bowling attack in tests is settled.

Mavi and Nagarkoti are atleast 3 years from any international cricket.

Next in line is Siraj.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Umesh isnt finished. Its sad that he doesnot get regular chances as our bowling attack in tests is settled.

Mavi and Nagarkoti are atleast 3 years from any international cricket.

Next in line is Siraj.

Bowling lineup is not settled . Need siraj to be brought in to replace Shami.

 

[Josh]

I would agree, Indian bowlers are faster at getting through their overs and have a more impressive over rate than Pakistani bowlers generally.

Yep and speed wise also much faster these days.

 

[Bubby]

Umesh isnt finished. Its sad that he doesnot get regular chances as our bowling attack in tests is settled.

Mavi and Nagarkoti are atleast 3 years from any international cricket.

Next in line is Siraj.

Yup siraj, Saini and rajpoot.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Whatever happened with Atul Sharma was a tragedy. There is nothing to laugh at it. The claims of 180 kph deliveries were made only by trolls. He was never a 180 clicks bowler. Yes he did breach 100 mph barrier during training for Rajasthan but then a freak injury ensured he never played professional cricket again. I don't know if India will ever produce another one like him.

 

[big_gamer007]

Whatever happened with Atul Sharma was a tragedy. There is nothing to laugh at it. The claims of 180 kph deliveries were made only by trolls. He was never a 180 clicks bowler. Yes he did breach 100 mph barrier during training for Rajasthan but then a freak injury ensured he never played professional cricket again. I don't know if India will ever produce another one like him.

As per your great friend Mr Junaids, Sylvester Clarke and Thompson bowled deliveries at 175 KMPH. So if they can then Atul Sharma ji was considerably faster than both of these trundlers so should easily be touching 185KPH at the bare minimum.

 

[big_gamer007]

Well said. Atul would have easily reached 200 mph.

Not 200MPH that is far fetched. At his absolute best he could touch approx 115MPH (185KPH) which is faster than any other bowler in history.

 

[Napa]

I would agree, Indian bowlers are faster at getting through their overs and have a more impressive over rate than Pakistani bowlers generally.

Not really, while it is true that Indian bowlers are faster at getting through their overs, they have a lower over rate than Pakistani bowlers generally.

 

[MenInG]

Indian bowlers ruling the roost at the moment!

 

[Rightarmfast]

/\ Even Pandya bowled at 145k's, 90mph. And he has been doing so in almost all the matches.

 

[Ummii]

Not 200MPH that is far fetched. At his absolute best he could touch approx 115MPH (185KPH) which is faster than any other bowler in history.

Sometimes I do want to see that sort of posts )
It's good for health.

 

[saintgrace]

what was the average speed of bowling for the first innins? any chart. I guess, it must be nearly 140 if not above 145.

 

[pillionrider]

It's very interesting to read a sizable chunk of Pakistani's views on fast bowlers even if the bowlers are Indian. Like a chunk of Indians who love batsmen, you can feel their genuine excitement over good bowling. The cricket fan takes over at this point

 

[Rayyman]

Great bowling by Indians today.

 

[khan991]

India can never touch pakistan bowling... its a disgrace to our fast bowlers to compare them to trundlers.

 

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[TalentSpotterPk]

Fastest ball of Asia Cup uptil now has been bowled by Khaleel Ahmed.

90.1 mph.

Interesting it was bowled in his 10th over which shows that his fitness levels are quite good.



Fastest in terms of average speed after 7 plus overs in Asia cup uptil now has been Usman Khan clocking 86 mph on average.

 

[Dingolfy]

Fastest ball of Asia Cup uptil now has been bowled by Khaleel Ahmed.

90.1 mph.

Interesting it was bowled in his 10th over which shows that his fitness levels are quite good.



Fastest in terms of average speed after 7 plus overs in Asia cup uptil now has been Usman Khan clocking 86 mph on average.

He was a trundler few years back and increased his pace thanks to strength training under Sidharth Basu who is the reason for increase in pace levels of most of the new age Indian fast bowlers.

 

[Balthazar]

It's trundlers galore. We have got two of those in our squad and Pakistan team has full of them. With the return of Bumrah and Pandya, this should be a piece of cake for Indian bowlers to overthrow Pakistani bowlers in pace department.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Ishant Sharma the best swing and seam bowler in the world

What a turnaround!

 

[Mamba Red]

Indian bowlers are faster than the Pakistani's after the Aussies and the SA's India has third best bowling lineup.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Pujara apart. India have actually been poor in this test . Toss is the only reason we are winning here.

 

[AlizeeFan]

Indian bowlers are faster than the Pakistani's after the Aussies and the SA's India has third best bowling lineup.

Aussies don't have better bowling line up. Only SA have better/comparable line up.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Most frightening thing is Bumrah generates this pace from hardly a couple of steps of run up.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Pujara apart. India have actually been poor in this test . Toss is the only reason we are winning here.

Hopefully Shaw and Vihari come in the next Test and bolster the batting line-up.

 

[Kroll]

To be honest, it wouldn't be hard for Indian bowlers to be faster than Pakistan bowlers or for any other team for that matter. Most of our regular bowlers can barely reach 140ks. Pace is pace yar

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Useless debate. You are either "fast" as in consistently 150 and sometimes 150+ - or you are not. Comparing 135 or 140 bowler to a 145 bowler is just a battle of medium fast bowlers.

 

[The Viper]

I read somewhere that Bumrah bowled a 153 delivery. Really impressive how Bumrah generates so much pace from a fairly short run up.

 

[Kaptan]

"Faster and better" to be precise.

 

[Sachin136]

Useless debate. You are either "fast" as in consistently 150 and sometimes 150+ - or you are not. Comparing 135 or 140 bowler to a 145 bowler is just a battle of medium fast bowlers.

145 is medium fast?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

To be honest, it wouldn't be hard for Indian bowlers to be faster than Pakistan bowlers or for any other team for that matter. Most of our regular bowlers can barely reach 140ks. Pace is pace yar

Pakistan could pick faster bowlers if pace is the only criteria, Wahab is waiting to sling in some 150k slingshots if required.

 

[Kaptan]

Pakistan could pick faster bowlers if pace is the only criteria, Wahab is waiting to sling in some 150k slingshots if required.

Wahab has become a turdler since the last couple of years. Mostly bowls in 132-138. And once in a blue moon 145+.
In terms of average speed he is no match to Bhumra or Shami.

 

[Kroll]

Wahab has become a turdler since the last couple of years. Mostly bowls in 132-138. And once in a blue moon 145+.
In terms of average speed he is no match to Bhumra or Shami.

Yep, our so called speed demon is not as quick as he was.

 

[Kroll]

Pakistan could pick faster bowlers if pace is the only criteria, Wahab is waiting to sling in some 150k slingshots if required.

That's the point, we don't have anybody with enough quality to match the Indian quicks in terms of overall pace.

 

[Savak]

I am happy with Abbas operating at 125-130 as long as he is bowling well, picking up wickets and winning games with the ball for Pakistan.

Am tired of seeing the likes of Wahab bowl wicket less 140-150 km/hr wayward spells

 

[Bewal Express]

This set of Indian seamers are not only quicker, but as a unit- more skilled. The only PK bowler close is Abbas and we will see how he does in SA.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

This set of Indian seamers are not only quicker, but as a unit- more skilled. The only PK bowler close is Abbas and we will see how he does in SA.

Abbas and Hasan look a pretty skilled opening pair.

 

[Buffet]

Having Abbas has narrowed the gap. Indians are not that much ahead now in skill. As far as pace goes, yes they are ahead.

 

[leg-side-flick]

Unless you are 150 K or above, incremental speed doesn't matter that much.... Swing n seam are far more important... That's why probably Mohd Abbas is better than all ....

So unless you are Bret Lee or Akhtar, talking only speed is meaningless

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

That's the point, we don't have anybody with enough quality to match the Indian quicks in terms of overall pace.

Indian pace bowlers may be better, but Pakistan's are good enough. The real difference is in the two batting line ups. Theirs is international class, Pakistan's isn't in the same league.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

145 is medium fast?

Yes.

Real fast bowlers hit 150 regularly.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Unless you are 150 K or above, incremental speed doesn't matter that much.... Swing n seam are far more important... That's why probably Mohd Abbas is better than all ....

So unless you are Bret Lee or Akhtar, talking only speed is meaningless

Very well said, those were the days watching Lee and Akhtar cramming it up and tried getting as close to 160 kph. Nowadays they think 145 is the new barrier, how times have changed. Indian pacers are still trundlers, first they need to produce a speedster like Akhtar then they can even be compared to Pakistani fast bowlers.

Please this Bumrahs, Sharmas wouldn't even be fit enough to be waterboys of Pakistan’s 90’s team.

 

[Greenstorm]

Wahab has become a turdler since the last couple of years. Mostly bowls in 132-138. And once in a blue moon 145+.
In terms of average speed he is no match to Bhumra or Shami.

Nah, was consistently bowling near 150kph at last PSL.

 

[Greenstorm]

Wahab has become a turdler since the last couple of years. Mostly bowls in 132-138. And once in a blue moon 145+.
In terms of average speed he is no match to Bhumra or Shami.

Nah, was consistently bowling at 150kph during last PSL.

 

[rhony]

Talking about speed is a moot point. They explained on the commentary yesterday that the speed is actually measured at the time of the release by the bowler. It is not the same speed that the batsman faces. The friction in the air, on the pitch, the slowness of the wicket means the batsman is Actually facing somewhere between 120 and 130.

It is the movement off the pitch that matters, swing or seam. All three bowlers in this Indian lineup can move the ball consistently. Abbas probably does it better than every one and Hasan seems to have found his mojo in the NZ series. Lack of movement is why Amir was ineffective recently.

When you compare bowling attacks, Indian pacers are more consistent than Pakistani pacers barring Abbas.

 

[gazza619]

India has left Pakistan behind in every department. Indian bowling attack has more fire and pace at the moment.

 

[TM Riddle]

Bumrah in one over
147.9 ks , 148.3 ks , 146.9 ks

Freak!

 

[Buffet]

Bumrah in one over
147.9 ks , 148.3 ks , 146.9 ks

Freak!

In the same over he had 150+ as well. He is generating good pace.

 

[saeed5646]

Bumrah in one over
147.9 ks , 148.3 ks , 146.9 ks

Freak!

In the same over he had 150+ as well. He is generating good pace.

there are not many current fast bowlers whose speed never drop after bowling long spell in test .Bumrah and starc are only two who comes to my mind these two are freak

 

[Sachin136]

there are not many current fast bowlers whose speed never drop after bowling long spell in test .Bumrah and starc are only two who comes to my mind these two are freak

Bumrah has bowled 40+ overs this match but still bowls in the mid-high 140s. Truly a treasure for India.

 

[saeed5646]

Bumrah has bowled 40+ overs this match but still bowls in the mid-high 140s. Truly a treasure for India.

amazing stuff

 

[sshakir411]

When has India ever had a fast bowler?

 

[Bubby]

Fastest ball by bumrah in this innings 150.6.

 

[Bubby]

Avg pace 143.2

 

[Bubby]

When has India ever had a fast bowler?

Srinath was quick, so was agarkar only thing they lacked was aggression as rightly mentioned by wasim, he himself said that if srinath had even 30% of mine and waqars aggression he would have been a much more dangerous bowler.

 

[GrandMaster]

Bumrah touched 153 in the first inning

 

[Bubby]

Bumrah touched 153 in the first inning

And 150.6 in second innings
First innings avg speed 144.3 fastest 153.26
Second innings avg speed 143.2 fastest 150.6
From bumrah
That is seriously quick.

 

[docteurmanish]

trundlers won us a match in aussie. happy with that!

 

[Indiafan]

When has India ever had a fast bowler?

This was fine before the internet, doesnt work anymore buddy

 

[Indiafan]

Nah, was consistently bowling near 150kph at last PSL.

In T20 even Bhuvi and Amir is over 140. Its easier to bowl 4 overs at full pace

 

[shane]

Based on this Test, India's bowlers are much faster. Not even a contest. But as Mohammad Abbas has shown, pace is not everything.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Was great to see our pacers match the Aussie pacers for speed and hostility. To see Bumrah running in and bowl 150 in the 88th over was go good to watch as an Indian fan.

Would love to see a real pacy bouncy pitch at Perth at the new WACA stadium. The SA ODI wicket they played on had some serious zip in it. Aussies should produce that same kind of wicket for the Test as well.

 

[Reyansh2017]

Bumrah in one over
147.9 ks , 148.3 ks , 146.9 ks

Freak!

Bumrah! What a find for india

 

[Madplayer]

Since when do we consider speed guns in Australia seriously?