mominsaigol
Senior Test Player
- Joined
- Apr 14, 2021
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Let me start by stating that Jaiswal and Pant are top quality test batters and are obviously > most minnow test openers and keepers.
However in recent times I have noticed another hype propaganda surrounding them. It is common knowledge based of data found on various social media websites such as Twitter, Instagram etc etc, that if you are a foreign player outside india, Then you need to be extremely good at your craft to go down in the history books case in point Steve smith.
Other players who can contributed to titles or have had steller peaks but fell off are typically forgotten, case in point James faulkner who despite having a stellar run in 2015 is now a forgotten entity in the realm of cricket.
Even Chanderpaul who is a goat player is often perceived in a negative light yet no one has been able to name even 10 players from the current era (post 2020) that are > Chanderpaul as Odi batsmen.
However reality hits different if you are an indian player due to a 1.3B indian fanbase that frequently markets their players.
No doubt India has produced legends that deserve the hype. Sunny who to this day gives hype machines like Babar Azam lesson on how to bat, Sachin Tendulkar the man who Bradman admired as his equal, Rahul Dravid who's defensive technique and defensive dominance earned him the nickname The Wall, Bumrah who is close to reaching the realms if the greatest bowlers of all time. Virat kohli who granted doesn't have the test status but makes up for it via his Odi and t20 endeavours.
However those players who do not reach this metric are still put in some marketing bracket.
Azharuddin an average player who is marketed as a test goat courtesy of his own Bollywood biopic. Dhoni a legendary odi batsmen but an avg test and t20 star viewed as an all format Viv Richards status legend who went from poverty to world star due to Bollywood biopic.
Ashwin and Jadeja, 2 very good spinners but wouldnt have had 3x the career if not for pitch curation and hence freqently get removed from overseas tours are put into the realm of Shaun Pollock in status.
Ravi Shastri a Shan Masood level batsmen who is regarded as the Shane Warne Killer and the man who would own Warne in repeated occasions.
Sidhu who is viewed as some ICC Title acquiring Travis Head level batsmen.
The list goes on and On. Recently the mantra has shifted to Jaiswal and Pant. 2 extremely good test batters in their own right yet marketed as the 2nd coming of Slice Bread.
Yet despite the hype Jaiswal and Pant cant even establish themsleves in the Odi and t20 setup. Coming back to test cricket it's brutally obvious that Jaiswal is a home track bully and will not have a succesful England tour given his performance in the recently concluded A tours vs England.
His Australia BGT stats sitting at 43 avg clearly shows that while he is good, overseas his avg will sit at 38-45 while at home it'll be 50+ for obvious reasons. So not bad but definitely not in the realm of sunny or hayden.
Despite marketing hype for talent he hasnt even surpassed Saeed Anwar as a batsmen and itll take year and years for him to even get to that level.
As for Pant, another hype macjine marketed as a test wk atg despite no evidence of him acquiring that status or coming close to it.
Time will tell and things can change but atm its clear as day that even the Likes of Shubman Gill have made a greater mark. Gill despite being at a young age is already captaining India in its most historic format and is has already proven himself to be a future odi legend. I have no doubt that he will improve his test stats now that he has shifted to no 4.
My advise is to follow the advise of BCCI and focus your efforts in Gill. Ignore Jaiswal and Pant akin to how Bcci is ignoring them in odi and t20. These 2 are solid but not ATG material.
However in recent times I have noticed another hype propaganda surrounding them. It is common knowledge based of data found on various social media websites such as Twitter, Instagram etc etc, that if you are a foreign player outside india, Then you need to be extremely good at your craft to go down in the history books case in point Steve smith.
Other players who can contributed to titles or have had steller peaks but fell off are typically forgotten, case in point James faulkner who despite having a stellar run in 2015 is now a forgotten entity in the realm of cricket.
Even Chanderpaul who is a goat player is often perceived in a negative light yet no one has been able to name even 10 players from the current era (post 2020) that are > Chanderpaul as Odi batsmen.
However reality hits different if you are an indian player due to a 1.3B indian fanbase that frequently markets their players.
No doubt India has produced legends that deserve the hype. Sunny who to this day gives hype machines like Babar Azam lesson on how to bat, Sachin Tendulkar the man who Bradman admired as his equal, Rahul Dravid who's defensive technique and defensive dominance earned him the nickname The Wall, Bumrah who is close to reaching the realms if the greatest bowlers of all time. Virat kohli who granted doesn't have the test status but makes up for it via his Odi and t20 endeavours.
However those players who do not reach this metric are still put in some marketing bracket.
Azharuddin an average player who is marketed as a test goat courtesy of his own Bollywood biopic. Dhoni a legendary odi batsmen but an avg test and t20 star viewed as an all format Viv Richards status legend who went from poverty to world star due to Bollywood biopic.
Ashwin and Jadeja, 2 very good spinners but wouldnt have had 3x the career if not for pitch curation and hence freqently get removed from overseas tours are put into the realm of Shaun Pollock in status.
Ravi Shastri a Shan Masood level batsmen who is regarded as the Shane Warne Killer and the man who would own Warne in repeated occasions.
Sidhu who is viewed as some ICC Title acquiring Travis Head level batsmen.
The list goes on and On. Recently the mantra has shifted to Jaiswal and Pant. 2 extremely good test batters in their own right yet marketed as the 2nd coming of Slice Bread.
Yet despite the hype Jaiswal and Pant cant even establish themsleves in the Odi and t20 setup. Coming back to test cricket it's brutally obvious that Jaiswal is a home track bully and will not have a succesful England tour given his performance in the recently concluded A tours vs England.
His Australia BGT stats sitting at 43 avg clearly shows that while he is good, overseas his avg will sit at 38-45 while at home it'll be 50+ for obvious reasons. So not bad but definitely not in the realm of sunny or hayden.
Despite marketing hype for talent he hasnt even surpassed Saeed Anwar as a batsmen and itll take year and years for him to even get to that level.
As for Pant, another hype macjine marketed as a test wk atg despite no evidence of him acquiring that status or coming close to it.
Time will tell and things can change but atm its clear as day that even the Likes of Shubman Gill have made a greater mark. Gill despite being at a young age is already captaining India in its most historic format and is has already proven himself to be a future odi legend. I have no doubt that he will improve his test stats now that he has shifted to no 4.
My advise is to follow the advise of BCCI and focus your efforts in Gill. Ignore Jaiswal and Pant akin to how Bcci is ignoring them in odi and t20. These 2 are solid but not ATG material.
