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Army coaching helps 9 Kashmiri students crack IIT entrance exam
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IITs are quite difficult to get admitted to. Google's CEO Pachauri is an IITian. Microsoft's CEO Nadella and Nobel Laureate Venkatraman Ramakrishnan could not get in.
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So? That just shows how messed up india's school system and college entrance process is. If Kashmir were free then they wouldn't need to go their or get tutored by their oppressors.
1. Graduates from IITs do better than graduates of any other university in Asia. They have occupied positions like CEOs of $100+ billion firms Google, and Citibank and MD of McKinsey Consultants.
2. The entrance to IITs is very competitive, everybody needs coaching to get in.
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this isn't something to be proud about. Infact, this just shows what a joke the education system is in India(dont worry its worse in Pakistan)
You study 12 years in school, and yet you need to clear an entrance exam instead of getting admission based upon your actually grades in High School.
You end up doing 12 years of education, and yet even for University acceptance you need coaching classes and have to give an entrance exam.
You study 12 years in school, and yet you need to clear an entrance exam instead of getting admission based upon your actually grades in High School.
You end up doing 12 years of education, and yet even for University acceptance you need coaching classes and have to give an entrance exam.
The 12 years of education are to have a common education base for a large country with a huge population. The entrance exams are held to have a common evaluation and gradation platform, similar to how you need to appear for GMAT or GATE.
Education system is india is flawed but the common entrance tests are a step in the right direction
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Again you need to get into a good uni, get good grades in high school simple as that.
Entrance test just kills the point of working hard in highschool.
Entrance test are not a proper way to judge who should be admitted into a uni, your high school grades should do the job.
These entrance tests are for engineering and specialised courses. There has to be a common way of evaluating students, ensuring a minimum knowledge base, especially since states are free to have their own schooling systems
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" I once asked Bill Gates if there was only one university in the world that he could recruit from, which one would he choose. He unhesitatingly replied, IIT "
~ Warren Buffett
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And that sums it up,we rather work under an entrepreneur (economics or tech) than set up the tech.
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IIT is up there with the best but too bad all the real genius engineers gets scooped up by the western countries...
Sure bro can you ensure all startup ideas in India get funding? Are you certain we are ready for the digital economy?
This gets thrown around a lot but I doubt the people criticising have setup a business in India or tried for venture funding. If you compare the startup scene in India and the USA, you will probably know the difference. Btw I am sure you know Indians own a sizeable percentage of startups in the Silicon Valley
The IIT entrance exam (JEE) is at a completely different level compared to the school exams. The school exams are for the masses. Anywhere in the world, if the JEE was given as a school exam, at least 80% to 90% of the students would fail.
I can well imagine the faces of common students if the following question appeared in their exam (taken from the 2015 qualifying exam for JEE, the actual JEE exam is even harder)
http://jeemain.nic.in/webinfo/QuestionPapers2015.htm
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I did my engineering from IIT Mumbai and this attitude of all students from IIT are special is a myth and people should really stop spouting it. There are bang average kids in IIT along with a few special ones and then you have the plain mediocre bunch. The proportions may vary based on the IIT, but you can find similar skilled students in top level NIT or state schools.
Most IIT students would be in the top 2%, and the rest in the top 5%. Whether you consider that as special or not depends upon how you define "special". I would not consider top 2% as "bang average".
I did my B-Tech from IIT. I would say that IITians underperform a bit after leaving IIT. There is so much hype about the IITs, that they feel they have already "made it".
Of course there are many great students from the other top non-IIT institutions. For example, the Microsoft CEO who has resurrected a close to dying Microsoft under Ballmer.
Rest in the top 5%? Are you those IIT kids on Quora? You really need to step out and talk more. Go campus recruiting in non IIT campuses, you should see the difference
Being in the top 5% is hardly difficult. You are obviously not aware of the average standard of the Indian high schooler.
I did not say the top 5% of students in campuses. Your arguments lack accuracy and you are not proving worthy of your IIT education.
The IITs just tag the most competitive and high intelligence students for big companies to recruit .. That's all they do .. Do the IIT's add any value to the student via the quality of education it imparts to its students, apart from the brand name ?
Have the IIT's promoted quality innovation/scientific temper at a level even closer to the MIT's or Caltechs or such top uni's ? The high achievers who enter the IIT's keep up the high grades and land top placements, mostly in foreign firms (The ones who don't go to the same IIT's for PG) . It is the quality of their Post graduations and the work experiences that they take up abroad that really make them reach the top of those multinational firms. ! I feel the IIMs do a much better job at value addition than the IITs.
Indian's need to get over this overt reverence of the IITs, and focus on improving our schooling system, all it is doing now is making robots to be pumped in and out of Engg colleges, to work for slave wages in some IT firm, with any sense of ambition / innovation already killed within 4 years of college.
Have the IIT's promoted quality innovation/scientific temper at a level even closer to the MIT's or Caltechs or such top uni's ? The high achievers who enter the IIT's keep up the high grades and land top placements, mostly in foreign firms (The ones who don't go to the same IIT's for PG) . It is the quality of their Post graduations and the work experiences that they take up abroad that really make them reach the top of those multinational firms. ! I feel the IIMs do a much better job at value addition than the IITs.
Indian's need to get over this overt reverence of the IITs, and focus on improving our schooling system, all it is doing now is making robots to be pumped in and out of Engg colleges, to work for slave wages in some IT firm, with any sense of ambition / innovation already killed within 4 years of college.
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The IITs are going international. Pride of Bharat.
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Last seen a year ago. I wonder if I knew you.
I am also from one of the original IITs, but feel ashamed telling anyone because have achieved less compared to my peers.
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While I understand that we need an extremely competitive exam system due to overpopulation, I feel that the curicullum should be such that it shouldn't deviate this much from waht is being taught in school. I understand that we need to improve our schools a lot but right now in order to even get a decent chance in the NITs let alone IITs you would need to partake in coaching centres. For studying in IIT, kota is essential where you go and study from dummy schools. More importance is given to solving questions which while is useful isn't research oriented. In comparison, MIT has a maker portfolio which allows students to display their portfolios and judge them on the basis of that. This allows them to select the cream of the crop from practical experiences ane provides them lab equipment and theoretical knowledge for their future endeavours. We should have a few selections based on this so that people who want to pursue research are able to do so.
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