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What did PCB expect? They got shown up at the ICC DRC. Smart one would have shut shop and played it quietly. instead motor mouths ran the organization. This is what you get when that happensYou would expect that ACC would act as an individual body and make decisions that would benefit the council and its members in terms of revenue and also lead to cricket spreading.
A tournament that was to be hosted by PCB is being controlled by BCCI. BCCI got the Asia cup to be held in Sri Lanka during monsoon season. I fact, games like Pak vs India that could had been held in dambulla was being held in these areas on purpose as BCCi said that in Sri Lanka they will not play in Dambulla.
Meanwhile, the host country, Pakistan, is traveling back and forth to Lahore, Multan and Sri Lanka to play games.
Was PCB really that spineless? Najem Sethi and Rameez Raja talked soon much, this is what they left for us? Zaka Ashraf also talked and couldn't even get the host country's name on the jersey.
This is one pathetic galli Mohalla tournament going on.
Who died during those matches?Just because something was done before, it doesn't mean it should be done again. It is a good 10-15 degrees hotter in the UAE at the moment than Sri Lanka
PCB is an entity within Pakistan, so yea, PCB is spineless.You would expect that ACC would act as an individual body and make decisions that would benefit the council and its members in terms of revenue and also lead to cricket spreading.
A tournament that was to be hosted by PCB is being controlled by BCCI. BCCI got the Asia cup to be held in Sri Lanka during monsoon season. I fact, games like Pak vs India that could had been held in dambulla was being held in these areas on purpose as BCCi said that in Sri Lanka they will not play in Dambulla.
Meanwhile, the host country, Pakistan, is traveling back and forth to Lahore, Multan and Sri Lanka to play games.
Was PCB really that spineless? Najem Sethi and Rameez Raja talked soon much, this is what they left for us? Zaka Ashraf also talked and couldn't even get the host country's name on the jersey.
This is one pathetic galli Mohalla tournament going on.
Papa ki pari Jay Shah made sure the tournament gets decimated by rain, and he has four teams twiddling thumbs in Sri Lanka watching from their dressing rooms or hotel rooms.Just because something was done before, it doesn't mean it should be done again. It is a good 10-15 degrees hotter in the UAE at the moment than Sri Lanka
Who died during those matches?
Could play ODIs at 5:30pm like they did when Australia played Pakistan in UAE in August/September 2012T20s start at 6 PM.
ODIs start at 2.30 PM.
Not wise to play in such heat before world cup.
Could play ODIs at 5:30pm like they did when Australia played Pakistan in UAE in August/September 2012
UAE would be a better choice than Sri Lanka in terms of weather but it is always a wise decision to play a tournament at a place where the host nation is playing.
I'm sorry to say this but Jay Shah is a BCCI stooge. Someone like him should never achieve such a position in what is supposed to be a sports governing body. How did Pakistan lose influence so quickly post 2000 in Asian cricket?Based on a media report:
Zaka Ashraf, over a phone call, has spoken to Jay Shah about shifting the remaining matches from Sri Lanka to Pakistan.
"There is rain forecast in the coming days in Sri Lanka. It is better to shift matches to Pakistan as there is no rain for the entire month"
Jay Shah replied:
"We are monitoring the situation"
I think broadcasters would take that over no matches played at all due to rain.Would go into late night and beyond prime time. Broadcasters won't agree.
Why is Zaka not discussing the same with Roger Binny and Rajiv Shukla who is visiting Pakistan?Based on a media report:
Zaka Ashraf, over a phone call, has spoken to Jay Shah about shifting the remaining matches from Sri Lanka to Pakistan.
"There is rain forecast in the coming days in Sri Lanka. It is better to shift matches to Pakistan as there is no rain for the entire month"
Jay Shah replied:
"We are monitoring the situation"
Jay Shah is the BCCI secretary, just like the one before him was BCB President and the one before him PCB Chairman. Thats how ACC functions.I'm sorry to say this but Jay Shah is a BCCI stooge. Someone like him should never achieve such a position in what is supposed to be a sports governing body. How did Pakistan lose influence so quickly post 2000 in Asian cricket?
I think broadcasters would take that over no matches played at all due to rain.
UAE should invest in building a retractable roof in Dubai to shield from Sun heat. They could play cricket all year round.
A quick look at the forecast would have sufficed. Stop making excuses for a major mess up, Shah deserves to be embarrassed on the world stage.Rains were not supposed to happen before September second week.
A quick look at the forecast would have sufficed. Stop making excuses for a major mess up, Shah deserves to be embarrassed on the world stage.
A quick look at the forecast would have sufficed. Stop making excuses for a major mess up, Shah deserves to be embarrassed on the
Jay Shah is the BCCI secretary, just like the one before him was BCB President and the one before him PCB Chairman. Thats how ACC functions.
Because PCB has no to little support from BCCI . PCB and BCCI are at loggerheads. Without the money that BCCI brings through team India, there will be no ACC.
The ACC can function without BCCI money, the same way as the ICC does. Both organisations functioned before India became a massive cricketing entity. The question I asked was semi-rhetorical but it was also meant to bait in this exact response...throughout the 90s Pakistan was THE asian side with massive endorsements for their top stars who were bigger than all the Indian stars...they dropped the ball on that.
The bigger issue is that the BCCI used its leverage and increasing earning power and potential to get Bangladesh and Sri Lanka on to their side while isolating Pakistan (the world wide political issues of the time also helped).
Anyway that's a whole different discussions. My point still stands, Shah is a stooge who does not want better cricket for Asian. sides.
Asia Cup 2018 was played in similar weather.There was no other venue. India wont travel to Pakistan.
UAE was too hot.
Asia Cup 2018 was played in similar weather.
Too hot is still better than every game getting washed out. How thick are you?
No doubt about that but PCB should have shown spine and fought harder for it's rights.It is easy to blame PCB or Najam Sethi when the real culprit is BCCI. It is due to BCCI's arrogance this tournament is suffering.
Might aswell have scrapped the Asia Cup. Easy for you to say typing away on that laptop daddy got you in the comfort of your room, but there are people who have made travel plans according to this tournament.Thats why boards refused this time as players got injured and no one wants to risk injuries before the WC.
No matches are better than having injured players before the WC.
Hope you can process that.
Lol.
Come out of your delusions sir.
ICC just sold its TV rights for next 4 years and 90 per cent of the money is coming from Indian territory rights, followed by UK and then Australia.
So don't know who told you that ICC functions without Indian money.
So no world cricket isn't going to flourish without Indian money.
Even in the 90s, Indian cricketers made most money and Tendulkar held the biggest AD contract.
Pakistani players would ply their trade in county cricket season after season to earn decent money.
PCB has rubbed the BCCI the wrong way quite a few times, so its natural that these boards dont see eye to eye.
Every ACC president has been a member of one of the boards, nothing new.
Asia cups have been shifted in the past to other venues. Nothing new there either.
Lol.
Come out of your delusions sir.
ICC just sold its TV rights for next 4 years and 90 per cent of the money is coming from Indian territory rights, followed by UK and then Australia.
So don't know who told you that ICC functions without Indian money.
So no world cricket isn't going to flourish without Indian money.
Even in the 90s, Indian cricketers made most money and Tendulkar held the biggest AD contract.
Pakistani players would ply their trade in county cricket season after season to earn decent money.
PCB has rubbed the BCCI the wrong way quite a few times, so its natural that these boards dont see eye to eye.
Every ACC president has been a member of one of the boards, nothing new.
Asia cups have been shifted in the past to other venues. Nothing new there either.
But you can win the world cup with your b team.Thats why boards refused this time as players got injured and no one wants to risk injuries before the WC.
No matches are better than having injured players before the WC.
Hope you can process that.
I won't get into all this. Happy for you to set up another thread for this specific discussion.
So why is that Balance not maintained with Indian players playing in Pakistan just like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh and Afghanistan?Jay Shah has responded to Najam Sethi comments:
“All the full members, media rights holder, and in-stadia rights holders were initially hesitant to commit to hosting the entire tournament in Pakistan. This reluctance stemmed from concerns related to the security and economic situation prevailing in the country,"
"In my capacity as ACC President, I was committed to finding a viable and mutually agreeable solution. To this end, I had accepted the hybrid model that was proposed by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) in collaboration with the ACC management. However, it's important to note that the leadership of the PCB underwent several changes, and this resulted in some back-and-forth negotiations, particularly regarding crucial aspects such as tax exemption and insurance for matches."
"The Asia Cup 2022 edition was played in the UAE in the T20 format. It's important to emphasize that the dynamics of a T20 tournament cannot be directly compared to those of a 100-over One-day format. In this context, ACC members received feedback from their respective high-performance teams, expressing concerns about playing One-day matches in the UAE in the month of September. Such a schedule could have potentially led to player fatigue and an increased risk of injuries, particularly right before the all-important ICC Cricket World Cup."
"The decision-making process regarding the Asia Cup 2023 format and venue was guided by a sincere desire to prioritize the well-being of the players, as well as the overarching interests of the sport. Ultimately, the goal was to strike a balance that would allow for a competitive and successful tournament while ensuring the health and readiness of the participating teams for ICC Cricket World Cup 2023.”
It doesn't come across as ego instead, it appears that they are acting out of fear and attempting to escape from the game.Bully. Big egos never end well.
If you want to destroy that tournament too, sure.So what will happen during CT 2025? We are back to SL again?
They had Afghanistan scheduled to play back to back games had Bangladesh not qualified.Jay Shah has responded to Najam Sethi comments:
“All the full members, media rights holder, and in-stadia rights holders were initially hesitant to commit to hosting the entire tournament in Pakistan. This reluctance stemmed from concerns related to the security and economic situation prevailing in the country,"
"In my capacity as ACC President, I was committed to finding a viable and mutually agreeable solution. To this end, I had accepted the hybrid model that was proposed by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) in collaboration with the ACC management. However, it's important to note that the leadership of the PCB underwent several changes, and this resulted in some back-and-forth negotiations, particularly regarding crucial aspects such as tax exemption and insurance for matches."
"The Asia Cup 2022 edition was played in the UAE in the T20 format. It's important to emphasize that the dynamics of a T20 tournament cannot be directly compared to those of a 100-over One-day format. In this context, ACC members received feedback from their respective high-performance teams, expressing concerns about playing One-day matches in the UAE in the month of September. Such a schedule could have potentially led to player fatigue and an increased risk of injuries, particularly right before the all-important ICC Cricket World Cup."
"The decision-making process regarding the Asia Cup 2023 format and venue was guided by a sincere desire to prioritize the well-being of the players, as well as the overarching interests of the sport. Ultimately, the goal was to strike a balance that would allow for a competitive and successful tournament while ensuring the health and readiness of the participating teams for ICC Cricket World Cup 2023.”
Jay Shah has responded to Najam Sethi comments:
“All the full members, media rights holder, and in-stadia rights holders were initially hesitant to commit to hosting the entire tournament in Pakistan. This reluctance stemmed from concerns related to the security and economic situation prevailing in the country,"
"In my capacity as ACC President, I was committed to finding a viable and mutually agreeable solution. To this end, I had accepted the hybrid model that was proposed by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) in collaboration with the ACC management. However, it's important to note that the leadership of the PCB underwent several changes, and this resulted in some back-and-forth negotiations, particularly regarding crucial aspects such as tax exemption and insurance for matches."
"The Asia Cup 2022 edition was played in the UAE in the T20 format. It's important to emphasize that the dynamics of a T20 tournament cannot be directly compared to those of a 100-over One-day format. In this context, ACC members received feedback from their respective high-performance teams, expressing concerns about playing One-day matches in the UAE in the month of September. Such a schedule could have potentially led to player fatigue and an increased risk of injuries, particularly right before the all-important ICC Cricket World Cup."
"The decision-making process regarding the Asia Cup 2023 format and venue was guided by a sincere desire to prioritize the well-being of the players, as well as the overarching interests of the sport. Ultimately, the goal was to strike a balance that would allow for a competitive and successful tournament while ensuring the health and readiness of the participating teams for ICC Cricket World Cup 2023.”
Economy is also a rubbish excuse, as SriLanka had been in a worse state and only just recovering.This confirms that no serious attempts were made to request permission from Indian government to travel. He has pinned the blame on everyone else LOL. It’s often used as an excuse in the media, but officially Jay Shah has pinned the blame on all other boards.
Security makes no sense given everyone but India is playing in Pakistan currently. Economic? Another stupid response.
It’s quite clear that Jay Shah is on the back foot and is trying to cover his incompetence and lack of experience. He has mishandled the World Cup Scheduling, played politics, and now is feeling the heat of Asia Cup scheduling and arrangements.
The unilateral decision making also highlights weakness and further incompetence.
Economy is good enough for 4 matches though. I'd like to see his calculations for why 4 is acceptable from an economic pov and why anymore matches are unacceptable.Economy is also a rubbish excuse, as SriLanka had been in a worse state and only just recovering.
This doesn't apply to IPL before big ICC tournaments though. Hope you can process that too.Thats why boards refused this time as players got injured and no one wants to risk injuries before the WC.
No matches are better than having injured players before the WC.
Hope you can process that.