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Asad Shafiq, a failure in pressure situations?

Shafiq seems to get so much unnecessary and uncalled hate on this forum, rather unfortunate.
 
As expected, went missing when we really needed him.

My only complaint is why he can't bat under pressure? Not some one innings wonder per series!

But why can't he be a collapse stopper rebuilder and as consistent as at least Misbah?

He was given a free ride for 5-6 years.

When is he going to learn that? He's not a youngster anymore.

Who will take the mantle from Misbah now? Shafiq lovers have no answer.

Now are we going to develop another #6 for the next 5 years if Shafiq can't be as good and consistent under pressure like Misbah?

He could've developed a partnership with him but no . Already did that once, gone for the next 3 matches.
 
hussain.r97 said:
Shafiq seems to get so much unnecessary and uncalled hate on this forum, rather unfortunate.
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Cut out the blind fan speech.

Even I accept he's a decent bat and the best strokemaker currently in the Test team. Not going to be dropped either.

But don't run away from his flaws. We're not discussing his average.

We're discussing his choking under two scenarios:

. Failing under a collapse and not partnering Misbah
. One series wonder - will impress you in one match and goes missing in the rest.

These are valid concerns. Not for a noob but someone we invested 6 years in.

Why is he still a lulloo and can't rebuild from a collapse, like Misbah? That's what #5 and #6 do.

Who is going to fight it off once Misbah goes? If the blind fan inside you answers Shafiq, I can't argue with you.
 
Considering the fact that Pakistani batting history isn't great and their best batters in last 20 years is Inzi it's fair to say that Asad is a very good bat and not a failure under pressure situation. However if the bar set for performing under pressure for him is as high as it is set for AB De Villiers here on PP then yes he is not so good under pressure which isn't a bad deal when we are talking about a batsmen from Pakistan.
 
Hawkeye said:
Cut out the blind fan speech.

Even I accept he's a decent bat and the best strokemaker currently in the Test team. Not going to be dropped either.

But don't run away from his flaws. We're not discussing his average.

We're discussing his choking under two scenarios:

. Failing under a collapse and not partnering Misbah
. One series wonder - will impress you in one match and goes missing in the rest.

These are valid concerns. Not for a noob but someone we invested 6 years in.

Why is he still a lulloo and can't rebuild from a collapse, like Misbah? That's what #5 and #6 do.

Who is going to fight it off once Misbah goes? If the blind fan inside you answers Shafiq, I can't argue with you.
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Your points are not based on facts and seem like a rambling of an unhinged person

There's been countless innings where he has scored fifties and centuries when Pakistan were 4 or 5 down with not many runs on the board including in South Africa when Misbah couldn't put bat on ball
 
Slog said:
Pak was sth like less than 100 for 4/5 iirc
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again: Pakistan was batting first in that match and it was Pakistan's 1st inning.

I am interested in knowing how Asad Shafiq performs when opposition bats first and opposition put on a big score on board. Does he usually fail in those circumstances like the way he failed today? Is his failure in those circumstances a rule or an exception?
 
in_cutter said:
Not just Shafiq btw
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Correct.

Azhar and YK, including Hafeez and Shan are to be blamed and blamed a lot more - but we're discussing a different topic, different aspect of batting.

You can start a blame thread for them as top order failures.

This thread is valid for Shafiq's one wonder per series habit or not being able to rebuild from a collapse consistently.
 
Poor shot today, but he has still been our best batsman on this tour and delivered under pressure at Lord's.
 
Which Pak batsman delivers under humongous score board pressure?

Why the criticism on Shafiq only..
 
Sometimes it feels like our fans would rather a certain player performs over another and if we lose its irrelevant
 
First failiure and people are calling for his head.. the other day there was thread to bench him in place of an allrounder.. some posters have some really crazy ideas here
 
Things might be easier at 3 for him.

Now he chokes under pressure and doesnt perform to its potential. Yes he scored beautiful 40's and 60's which got a lot of Pakistanis excited, but he can do a lot better. In fact this fragile line up needs a better Asad to compete against the best. We need 100's from our batters otherwise Eng, Aus will roll over us.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
Things might be easier at 3 for him.

Now he chokes under pressure and doesnt perform to its potential. Yes he scored beautiful 40's and 60's which got a lot of Pakistanis excited, but he can do a lot better. In fact this fragile line up needs a better Asad to compete against the best. We need 100's from our batters otherwise Eng, Aus will roll over us.
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I think he is already out performing in test matches based on his talent and this is the ceiling for him. He is not that talented as some PPers think he is
 
Looked decent but it counts as a miss because he should have gone on longer

However there was NO WAY that we would have saved this test match. NO WAY.

So in terms of influencing the result, it didnt matter.

But still poor
 
You bring in all world ATGs and they would still lose in this situation.

This is not example of pressure situation. Just too much to do.

But Asad has to get consistent in general.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
You bring in all world ATGs and they would still lose in this situation.

This is not example of pressure situation. Just too much to do.

But Asad has to get consistent in general.
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He's been doing this since a long time now.

If he scores well - goes missing for the rest of the series or whenever a situation requires him to bat through.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is he truly becoming like what YK was at one stage? One wonder per series?
 
Hawkeye said:
He's been doing this since a long time now.

If he scores well - goes missing for the rest of the series or whenever a situation requires him to bat through.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is he truly becoming like what YK was at one stage? One wonder per series?
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For now, yes.

The reason why Shafiq has not gained recognition yet is because he hasn't dominated a series, i.e. by scoring 2-3 hundreds.

Unless he does that, he cannot become a great/world class player and will remain a good player.

I hope he gets promoted now though, it is not fair to keep him below Azhar and Younis who are batting terribly at the moment.
 
Hawkeye said:
He's been doing this since a long time now.

If he scores well - goes missing for the rest of the series or whenever a situation requires him to bat through.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is he truly becoming like what YK was at one stage? One wonder per series?
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I mentioned this before the start of the series as well. Its a thing with Shafiq. He performs in one match and goes missing in the rest of the series. Same thing in SA as well.
 
LowKiiSavage said:
I mentioned this before the start of the series as well. Its a thing with Shafiq. He performs in one match and goes missing in the rest of the series. Same thing in SA as well.
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these types of players need a reality check. they have to be told that if you dont perform in this match you are sitting out next. danda is needed
 
LowKiiSavage said:
I mentioned this before the start of the series as well. Its a thing with Shafiq. He performs in one match and goes missing in the rest of the series. Same thing in SA as well.
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Pressure gets to him and he often chokes. :amla

It's one of the reasons why he's a total lulloo in ODIs. He's expected to score fast and comes under pressure.

Loses his wits and totally fails. [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION]
 
srh said:
these types of players need a reality check. they have to be told that if you dont perform in this match you are sitting out next. danda is needed
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To be fair, there are many players ahead of him that deserve to get the 'danda'.

Hawkeye said:
Pressure gets to him and he often chokes. :amla

It's one of the reasons why he's a total lulloo in ODIs. He's expected to score fast and comes under pressure.

Loses his wits and totally fails. [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION]
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Yes, he is awful in ODIs. Should not be anywhere near the ODI team. Poor man's yosuf currently in the test format (still okay for our current standards) and poor man's YK in ODIs (which is dreadful).
 
Well he's probably been Pakistan's best bat in the series. Plus he came out at 102/4 when we needed 463 more to win and only 6 wickets left in the bag for a draw. He needs to be brought up the order at 3/4. Hopefully he will be able to give us some big scores at that position.
 
There are fantasies and then there is this thread.
hopefully his promotion next match can cap this thread.
 
One way or the other, this thread will be bumped tomorrow.

Match is in a delicate position here - one good partnership can put Pakistan in complete control while a few quick wickets can give England the initiative.

Shafiq will be starting his innings against the new ball so he will be tested.
 
Mamoon said:
One way or the other, this thread will be bumped tomorrow.

Match is in a delicate position here - one good partnership can put Pakistan in complete control while a few quick wickets can give England the initiative.

Shafiq will be starting his innings against the new ball so he will be tested.
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Lol youre that sure that one of Misbah or Younis will fail? Even if they last 15 overs the ball will be 25 overs old. Asad has proven his worth under pressure for me
 
Hopefully he scores a big score tommorow and this pathetic thread can be classed as a fail once and for all!
 
aliasad1998 said:
Lol youre that sure that one of Misbah or Younis will fail? Even if they last 15 overs the ball will be 25 overs old. Asad has proven his worth under pressure for me
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I actually forgot that Misbah is next. Nonetheless, he will play an important role tomorrow unless Misbah and Younis get a 100+ partnership.
 
Mamoon said:
One way or the other, this thread will be bumped tomorrow.

Match is in a delicate position here - one good partnership can put Pakistan in complete control while a few quick wickets can give England the initiative.

Shafiq will be starting his innings against the new ball so he will be tested.
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Good rescue attempt, but the match is in total control.

Unless both wickets fall within 10 overs.

Sarfraz and Shafiq both have scored once, but they need to do more.
 
Shafiq needs a hundred 2maw. That still will not end the hate as people will say tired bowlers and after the Lord mayors show etc etc. But by Allah we need a score from him tomorrow because it is clear to me we need all of our runs in this first innings.
I want to be batting at COP 2maw
 
Hawkeye said:
Good rescue attempt, but the match is in total control.

Unless both wickets fall within 10 overs.

Sarfraz and Shafiq both have scored once, but they need to do more.
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Pakistan needs a lead of 100+, because chasing anything in the 4th innings can be tricky.

Which means that Younis, Misbah, Shafiq and Sarfraz all have to step up tomorrow.

It's the most pivotal day of the match, because the team that wins day 3 will dictate the last two days.

However, you have already to put yourself in a position to save this thread should Shafiq score, because the match is in total control and it is not a pressure situation.
 
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Mamoon said:
One way or the other, this thread will be bumped tomorrow.

Match is in a delicate position here - one good partnership can put Pakistan in complete control while a few quick wickets can give England the initiative.

Shafiq will be starting his innings against the new ball so he will be tested.
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new ball is already 9 overs old plus Asad is not next batsman so Asad may not face new ball at all
 
srh said:
new ball is already 9 overs old plus Asad is not next batsman so Asad may not face new ball at all
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As I said, I forgot that Misbah is in next, hence the new ball comment.

However, regardless of the state of the ball, the middle-order will have to step up tomorrow, including Shafiq.

First two sessions tomorrow are crucial.
 
For the love of god and for one last time, make him bat higher.

Atleast above the ballerina.
 
If he does not score a 100 tomorrow then we should all be mad at him.
 
younus 32
misbah 7
shafiq 45
sarfraz 23
yasir 13
amir 11
sohail 21
rahat 2

Pakistan lead by 132 runs!
 
Asad and Sarfraz need to have a 100 runs partnership tomorrow to take Pakistan to a good score.
 
Hopefully he wont be under any pressure when he comes out to bat with pakistan already leading by a 100 runs.
 
FreakCricket said:
younus 32
misbah 7
shafiq 45
sarfraz 23
yasir 13
amir 11
sohail 21
rahat 2

Pakistan lead by 132 runs!
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problem is when its gets to getting out or batsmen follow each other back to the pavilion in a hurry
 
I have no idea why some folks want to classify our position as a "pressure" or backs against the wall situation.

It's not a collapse either under huge deficit . So, under such easy conditions where top order has already built the platform, it gets easier to bat.

Thread isn't made for these situations.
 
Hawkeye said:
I have no idea why some folks want to classify our position as a "pressure" or backs against the wall situation.

It's not a collapse either under huge deficit . So, under such easy conditions where top order has already built the platform, it gets easier to bat.

Thread isn't made for these situations.
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Its Paramount that we get a lead of 150 so yes pressure is still on
 
WHAT THE HELL? SHafiq?

Why are you proving me right? Just scored once per series and missing now.

It wasn't even immense pressure, he had to build on! And goes for A DUCK!!
 
Garbage. Absolute garbage stuff. Proving yet again that he performs only once per series. Oh lord.

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and some PPers claimed he is the best test batsman of Pakistan :facepalm:
 
Guys, it's not a one-time. That's the issue!

He does it in every series.

Will score randomly in one match, then goes missing in others or whenever he's REQUIRED to score, under any bit of pressure.

I'm sad. That's why he can't excel in ODIs too, because of the pressure of "scoring fast".

Chokes big time. :amla
 
He has not improved et all, sadly. Good batsman in tests but still mentally very weak.

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Poor knock today. Shafiq has one again failed to dominate a series.
 
He is a new ball bunny. How long can Pakistan hide him from new ball?
 
Really odd inns, what was he actually doing? not playing his natural game of trying to be positive!
 
That was an awful innings but fans need to calm down, we were all calling for Azhar Ali's head but one century and he is back in everyone's good books
 
hadi123 said:
That was an awful innings but fans need to calm down, we were all calling for Azhar Ali's head but one century and he is back in everyone's good books
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Not in mine. Still cautious about him. But yes, you are right. All it takes is one innings and all failures are forgotten.
 
Hawkeye said:
Guys, it's not a one-time. That's the issue!

He does it in every series.

Will score randomly in one match, then goes missing in others or whenever he's REQUIRED to score, under any bit of pressure.

I'm sad. That's why he can't excel in ODIs too, because of the pressure of "scoring fast".

Chokes big time. :amla
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When you play 17 dot balls and don't score a run, you are putting a lot of pressure on yourself. What will ultimately end up happening is that you will play a bad shot and get out.

The only player I have seen who starts with a very low S/R and does not get out is Misbah.
 
Didn't look like himself from the beginning of the innings, was never quite in the zone, poor innings. Bad day for him.

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Hawkeye said:
WHAT THE HELL? SHafiq?

Why are you proving me right?
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It wasnt exactly a pressure situation either so the thread title doesnt even apply. Im certain the ppl with agendas would called it easy runs anyway if hed scored as we're in a good position

Poor effort though. (didnt see how he got out)
 
LowKiiSavage said:
Not in mine. Still cautious about him. But yes, you are right. All it takes is one innings and all failures are forgotten.
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ofcourse there's can only be one who is in your good books :)))

(haha the joke was there. had to do it lol. dont take it srsly
 
Slog said:
ofcourse there's only one who is in your good books :)))
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I am just making a sensible opinion. If he doesn't performs in the next three innings that would mean that he performed in one out of 8 innings. Not good by any means.
 
LowKiiSavage said:
I am just making a sensible opinion. If he doesn't performs in the next three innings that would mean that he performed in one out of 8 innings. Not good by any means.
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ofcourse. For me that would be a very poor tour for any batsman
 
This is why I feel he shouldn't be batted at 3 or 4.That is not his position as you will get to face the new ball more often than not.

He has issues with new ball and hence the best position for him is no.5 or 6(no.5 more precisely because the impact is too low when you come at 6).Yes, he failed today at no.5 but I am talking as a general perspective.

Shafiq is more in the mould of Clarke or AB(the guys who prefer to bat at 5).They may get accused of not performing under pressure but if the consistency is there he can become a world class batsmen.

Ofcourse, as of now, he is just an inferior version of AB or Clarke unless he performs everywhere.
 
Shafiq lacks courage and guts to play a serious match winning Innings. His dismissal today was a carbon copy of his innings at Lords. Definitely needs to rectify is technique for that particular delivery. Plus when he came in the ball wasn't "new". It was near 20 overs old.

I agree that he fails in pressure situations. Just imagine if all 11 players had the guts and will that Misbah has. The team would be unbeatable.
 
Still our Best Test Batsman of last 18 months.

Still Back him.

Our Best Batsman in terms of Technique, Style, Proficiency against Pace, Strokes Range through Off and On both of Pacers & Spinners.


Pakistani Fans for Indivisual Players are most disloyal in the world.

Jidhar hawa chalti hai uss taraf beh jaatay hein Bhairh Bakrioun ki Tarah.


Inconsistent fans ;)

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Looked like a concentration lapse to me. Shafiq has always had issues with concentration, he needs to find a way to keep his focus the way Azhar does.

If it was a technical issue he wouldn't be able to play that line at all. More often than not he gets behind and blocks deliveries like the one he got out on.

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TalentSpotterPk said:
Still our Best Test Batsman of last 18 months.

Still Back him.

Our Best Batsman in terms of Technique, Style, Proficiency against Pace, Strokes Range through Off and On both of Pacers & Spinners.


Pakistani Fans for Indivisual Players are most disloyal in the world.

Jidhar hawa chalti hai uss taraf beh jaatay hein Bhairh Bakrioun ki Tarah.


Inconsistent fans ;)

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He is the most talented batsman in the line up and has the most potential but what good is skill if your concentration , temperament and desire to put a price on your wicket are poor? We're all fans of Pakistan/Shafiq and it is in the teams interest that he performs well, it is unfair that fans are criticised for calling out Shafiq for poor performances when better is expected from him. He has performed well in the past and I hope he comes back stronger from this

"Our Best Batsman in terms of Technique, Style, Proficiency against Pace, Strokes Range through Off and On both of Pacers & Spinners." That doesn't apply to Misbah but he's still out there fighting hard.

Shafiq has modelled his batting over his idol Moyo, both are quiet similar but Moyo's temperament and concentration powers were something to behold to, Shafiq will need to imitate that aspect of his game to hopefully. Having invested in him for a long time there is no excuse for poor performances and Azhar was criticised in the same fashion when he was failing but he came good and I believe Shafiq can to.
 
shaz619 said:
He is the most talented batsman in the line up and has the most potential but what good is skill if your concentration , temperament and desire to put a price on your wicket are poor? We're all fans of Pakistan/Shafiq and it is in the teams interest that he performs well, it is unfair that fans are criticised for calling out Shafiq for poor performances when better is expected from him. He has performed well in the past and I hope he comes back stronger from this

"Our Best Batsman in terms of Technique, Style, Proficiency against Pace, Strokes Range through Off and On both of Pacers & Spinners." That doesn't apply to Misbah but he's still out there fighting hard.

Shafiq has modelled his batting over his idol Moyo, both are quiet similar but Moyo's temperament and concentration powers were something to behold to, Shafiq will need to imitate that aspect of his game to hopefully. Having invested in him for a long time there is no excuse for poor performances and Azhar was criticised in the same fashion when he was failing but he came good and I believe Shafiq can to.
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Good post.
 
Hopefully he is not needed in the next innings.

In the oval test match he needs to score big.
 
shaz619 said:
He is the most talented batsman in the line up and has the most potential but what good is skill if your concentration , temperament and desire to put a price on your wicket are poor? We're all fans of Pakistan/Shafiq and it is in the teams interest that he performs well, it is unfair that fans are criticised for calling out Shafiq for poor performances when better is expected from him. He has performed well in the past and I hope he comes back stronger from this

"Our Best Batsman in terms of Technique, Style, Proficiency against Pace, Strokes Range through Off and On both of Pacers & Spinners." That doesn't apply to Misbah but he's still out there fighting hard.

Shafiq has modelled his batting over his idol Moyo, both are quiet similar but Moyo's temperament and concentration powers were something to behold to, Shafiq will need to imitate that aspect of his game to hopefully. Having invested in him for a long time there is no excuse for poor performances and Azhar was criticised in the same fashion when he was failing but he came good and I believe Shafiq can to.
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I am not at all sarisfied by his performance in last 2 innings.

Especially today.

He got out because he was playing negatively. No intent at all.

Now whether it was managements instruction or whether it was his own poor analysis of match situation i do not know. He should have played in his natural way.


I am just waiting for Younis's retirement after Australian or NZ tour with 10 k mark. Than waiting for Asad to be promoted to number 4 and test Captaincy aswell. He will inshaAllah be quite a nightmare for bowlers at number 4 and within a year in that position i expect him to be amongst top 2-3 Test Batsman for number 4 spot at that time. He was seriously unfit for number 6 batting position but don't forget He is approaching a World Record for that batting position.

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And Shaz where were you for so long ?

Missed you. Hope everything was fine and is fine.

Missed your smears :)

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Unforutnately that was the old shafiq - the one that would get caught on the crease
 
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