Asad Shafiq, a failure in pressure situations?

[shaz619]

I am not at all sarisfied by his performance in last 2 innings.

Especially today.

He got out because he was playing negatively. No intent at all.

Now whether it was managements instruction or whether it was his own poor analysis of match situation i do not know. He should have played in his natural way.


I am just waiting for Younis's retirement after Australian or NZ tour with 10 k mark. Than waiting for Asad to be promoted to number 4 and test Captaincy aswell. He will inshaAllah be quite a nightmare for bowlers at number 4 and within a year in that position i expect him to be amongst top 2-3 Test Batsman for number 4 spot at that time. He was seriously unfit for number 6 batting position but don't forget He is approaching a World Record for that batting position.

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And Shaz where were you for so long ?

Missed you. Hope everything was fine and is fine.

Missed your smears

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I rather him just score runs at the moment wouldn't want a player with so much potential to get burdened with captaincy and not everyone thrives under that burden. It was an unusual knock from him, I posted in the thread just before his dismissal that wow he's yet to get off the mark hadn't noticed it; did seem to be dead batting a bit and to be fair to England they were bowling a tight line. He didn't look himself out there though, has to be said. Still another inning left to make up for his performance in a big way, hopefully he doesn't need to come out to bat though!

All good bro alhamdullilah hope you've been well to, always look out for your posts in regards to the domestic talent in pak; I only pay most attention to warwickshire bears as far as domestic cricket is concerned

 

[srh]

If Pakistan does not win the 3rd test match, the chief culprit will be Asad Shafiq.

 

[The_KING]

Very disappointed in him.

 

[Hawkeye]

New ball is a big issue, the in swinger in his undoing normally

Don't think it's the new ball - just movement in general.

He struggles against the moving ball, specially inswing/seam.

It wasnt exactly a pressure situation either so the thread title doesnt even apply. Im certain the ppl with agendas would called it easy runs anyway if hed scored as we're in a good position

Poor effort though. (didnt see how he got out)

Became tougher for us when YK got out immediately, it wasn't even a very tense collapse situation yet he proceeded according to his reputation.

i.e. can't perform consistently in a series, lacks the ability to play under pressure, can't attack.

Shafiq lacks courage and guts to play a serious match winning Innings. His dismissal today was a carbon copy of his innings at Lords. Definitely needs to rectify is technique for that particular delivery. Plus when he came in the ball wasn't "new". It was near 20 overs old.

I agree that he fails in pressure situations. Just imagine if all 11 players had the guts and will that Misbah has. The team would be unbeatable.

I'm not sure if it's lack of guts or ability (of offensive play).

He can play good defensive role when top order has setup an excellent platform.

But can't dominate bowlers, can't attack, and obviously, falters under pressure more often than not. Isn't a collapse-rebuilder like Misbah (should be at #6 !)

People claim he has "potential" - well, not everyone who "looks good" while playing has good overall potential. In case of Shafiq, he's a limited batsman, actually!

He doesn't possess any change of gears, he can't attack, and when he's expected to, he'll fail (in ODIs, for example).

Umar Amin looks FAR MORE better than Shafiq and actually has the game + stroke play to attack and defend.

 

[godzilla]

wait - i thought he had technique? what happened to all this technique that everyone was saying should qualify him for playing at number 3?

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

He has been found out and now they're making it count. I hope Asad gets back to his best very soon.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Today he confirmed my belief that he can never lead Pakistan's batting unit.

He is just a support batsman who will score some runs at #6.

 

[Hasan123]

Time to step up Asad.

 

[Ab Fan]

Asad will save pakisan here.I back him his time.

 

[Hawkeye]

Time to step up Asad.

HUH? You just called it a poor pathetic thread a day back without knowing how pathetic Shafiq is, a big choker.

He's the biggest choker in the team after Hafeez.

Always fails whenever we want him to score, occasionally scores soft runs as a "support' bat.

 

[The_KING]

Once again fails. Two ducks on a flat wicket. Overrated player.

 

[James]

Pretty awful match for him sadly.

Also completely wasted a review against a dead LBW decision, which may turn out to be even more crucial this evening if the match goes down to the wire.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

And he chokes again for the 86th time. Asad is mentally very weak. Massive blunder by management to bat someone like him at number 6.

 

[Hasan123]

HUH? You just called it a poor pathetic thread a day back without knowing how pathetic Shafiq is, a big choker.

He's the biggest choker in the team after Hafeez.

Always fails whenever we want him to score, occasionally scores soft runs as a "support' bat.

I have faith in Shafiq he will come good.

 

[Ab Fan]

Asad will save pakisan here.I back him his time.

Disappoined me.

 

[Slog]

Choker

Misbah and Shafiq choked

Hafeez and Younis Khan are just not good enough for this level anymore

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Once again fails. Two ducks on a flat wicket. Overrated player.

Mentally very weak. The reason he can't score runs in ODI as well when captains make it tough for him by placing tight fields.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

He just does not have it in him to score in touch match situations. Not that he does not deserve to be in the team but should have lower expectations of him.

 

[Hawkeye]

Choker

Misbah and Shafiq choked

Hafeez and Younis Khan are just not good enough for this level anymore

Don't try to bring Misbah in everything, you've done this second time to let yourself feel a bit good.

It's clear Hafeez and Shafiq are the biggest chokers in the team.

 

[Abdullah719]

Very very disappointing.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

I have faith in Shafiq he will come good.

He can come good, but shouldn't bat at a position where you need a tough nut like Sarfraz. Pak have wasted Asad's potential for years now by placing him at number 6. The guy is mentally fragile for tough situations.

 

[Hamza_]

Mentally very weak. The reason he can't score runs in ODI as well when captains make it tough for him by placing tight fields.

If he is mentally weak then what is the difference in him and Akmal who is also mentally weak?

 

[Belawal2014]

What's more frustrating is that he gets out in the same manner EVERY single time....

 

[Hawkeye]

Mentally very weak. The reason he can't score runs in ODI as well when captains make it tough for him by placing tight fields.

Yeah, that's one reason he can't play in ODIs.

But there's another reason - he's technically very limited in playing attacking shots.

He can go into a shell as a support batsman when things are very easy, but cannot dominate bowlers, attack or play strokes to the boundaries.

Mental + technical limitations.

 

[endymion248]

Has always had a weakness against the inswinger but he did nothing to correct it.

 

[LowKiiSavage]

Thus he proves that he keeps his perform once in a series image intact and that he is a failure under pressure. Absolute pathetic. He is responsible for our loss majorly.

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[Hawkeye]

If he is mentally weak then what is the difference in him and Akmal who is also mentally weak?

Difference is Umar is a 100 times better batsman on ability, can play attacking and defensive strokes both.

Dominate bowlers.

Asad can only score soft runs by going into a shell and being defensive. He doesn't have a good overall game.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

If he is mentally weak then what is the difference in him and Akmal who is also mentally weak?

Akmal has other issues which make it impossible for him to perform consistently. But he has done well in tough situations and would have scored here. The only issue for him is consistency because of his attitude and other hundred Akmal gene issues.

 

[Hawkeye]

Thus he proves that he keeps his perform once in a series image intact and that he is a failure under pressure. Absolute pathetic. He is responsible for our loss majorly.

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So you've started believing in my assessments now.

And yep - always said that, but some people get carried away after a few good knocks.

This Test loss is almost entirely Asad's fault, though.

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

Overrated batsman, along with Azhar Ali. Fawad, Umar and Haris should have been invested in, instead of these two, 4 years back.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Thus he proves that he keeps his perform once in a series image intact and that he is a failure under pressure. Absolute pathetic. He is responsible for our loss majorly.

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Asad and Hafeez are big match ke mujrims. Especially Asad not scoring has meant that Pak were 100 runs short/

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Yeah, that's one reason he can't play in ODIs.

But there's another reason - he's technically very limited in playing attacking shots.

He can go into a shell as a support batsman when things are very easy, but cannot dominate bowlers, attack or play strokes to the boundaries.

Mental + technical limitations.

Wish people understood this instead of going defensive and bringing Karachi into this.

 

[Mamoon]

Terrible performance. Completely switched off.

 

[Hawkeye]

I have faith in Shafiq he will come good.

You might want to re-assess your faith.

Or if you want, you can keep believing in a technically very limited bat.

It's a wrong illusion that he's technically good - he isn't a stroke-maker, can't attack or score quick. Yes, he can go into defensive mode and shell when the top order has scored well.

But, he can't dominate bowlers or even score quickly off them (whether spinners or pacers). He looks a bit good while playing, so gives the illusion he actually is good.

If you want to have faith in him, your call.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Terrible performance. Completely switched off.

I am surprised you haven't realised yet that he struggles under pressure. The reason number 6 isn't suitable for him.

Usually you are the first one being critical and realizing these things.

 

[Hasan123]

You might want to re-assess your faith.

Or if you want, you can keep believing in a technically very limited bat.

It's a wrong illusion that he's technically good - he isn't a stroke-maker, can't attack or score quick. Yes, he can go into defensive mode and shell when the top order has scored well.

But, he can't dominate bowlers or even score quickly off them (whether spinners or pacers).

If you want to have faith in him, your call.

Why would I lose faith after one game LOOOOOOL?

He has a decent technique, minor alterations to it and he will be even better. Once he is batting up the order you will see.

 

[fasihulhaq94]

damn shafiq blew it! just when we needed him to bat it out

 

[Mamoon]

I am surprised you haven't realised yet that he struggles under pressure. The reason number 6 isn't suitable for him.

Usually you are the first one being critical and realizing these things.

Almost all of his hundreds have come under pressure situations, you can refer to my post on the first page.

The problem is that he's inconsistent. It's not about pressure.

His success rate is like 50%.

 

[street cricketer]

Both Shafiq and Misbah choked today big time when they were expected to step up.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Almost all of his hundreds have come under pressure situations, you can refer to my post on the first page.

The problem is that he's inconsistent. It's not about pressure.

His success rate is like 50%.

The UAE and the opposition (WI) should help him to improve his Soberesque stats but the last year or so he has struggled whenever we needed him the most.

Being mentally fragile is or could be the reason for him not being consistent in scoring big runs at this position when we are almost out and done. This is also why he struggles in ODI while he is a pretty good player.

Time for Pakistan to promote Azhar and move Asad to 3 so that he can play long innings without pressure or any limitation.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Supreme choker.

 

[Slog]

Don't try to bring Misbah in everything, you've done this second time to let yourself feel a bit good.

It's clear Hafeez and Shafiq are the biggest chokers in the team.

Stop being insecure about Misbah lol

His defensive captaincy and failure to kick on in both innings takes major blame as well

 

[Mamoon]

Both Shafiq and Misbah were terrible today. End of story.

 

[Slog]

Both Shafiq and Misbah were terrible today. End of story.

Shafiq was terrible all match asides from a decent leg slip catch. I mean it's not possible to have a worser match

Misbah was disappointing in both innings especially first as he had got in. But the defensive captaincy yesterday cost us a lot overall

 

[ethan hunt]

Very incosistent .
Averages 24 away from home .
I hope he doesnt turm out to be a failed investment.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Asad :'(

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[Pakpak]

Asad will save pakisan here.I back him his time.

Well....

 

[Khan12]

Thanks to Misbah and Asad for choking to hand the match. Younis and hafeez are just not good enough any more( hafeez never was). They are free wickets for oppositions.

 

[shaaik]

I mentioned this before the start of the series as well. Its a thing with Shafiq. He performs in one match and goes missing in the rest of the series. Same thing in SA as well.

Ijaz ahmadesque... that's the reason why I don't want him to bat up the order. He's the technique to succeed at the highest level but doesn't hv any resolve and attitude to take it to the opposition.. he's too meek a player for international standards. He really needs to up his game otherwise we may hv a more misery and shame heading our way..

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[Asif khan]

Another one who fills his boots in the UAE coming in at 300 for 4 but when the going gets tough or he is outside his comfort zone, his limited stroke play and inability to take the game to the opposition results in the pressure mounting on him and thus he becomes a walking wicket.

 

[Rana]

Highly dissapointed. Pure let down

 

[The_Odd_One]

Glad that the myth that he is the best batsman in the team has been totally busted. He is as big a choker as Hafeez who only performs once in a series.

He has not done enough to be promoted in the batting order. Keep him at #6.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Glad that the myth that he is the best batsman in the team has been totally busted. He is as big a choker as Hafeez who only performs once in a series.

He has not done enough to be promoted in the batting order. Keep him at #6.

Don't worry a few knocks at the UAE vs WI will make him even better than Sobers for many posters here. Just wait and watch.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Once Asad's GodFather & Role Model Batsmam Mohammad Yousuf also had problems with Right Armer's ball nipping back into him or Lefteez Vaas & Pathan's inswingers.


But he worked it out quite well.



A horrible Test for Shafique. I hope he gets rid of this scary test soon. His confodence right now will be really low

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[zoro]

Don't try to bring Misbah in everything, you've done this second time to let yourself feel a bit good.

It's clear Hafeez and Shafiq are the biggest chokers in the team.

Nearly man must be coming to the end of his career becos he didnt even come close to nearly saving the test!

 

[LowKiiSavage]

Ijaz ahmadesque... that's the reason why I don't want him to bat up the order. He's the technique to succeed at the highest level but doesn't hv any resolve and attitude to take it to the opposition.. he's too meek a player for international standards. He really needs to up his game otherwise we may hv a more misery and shame heading our way..

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Completely agree. Although i am not sure about the technique part. Guys gets LBW all the time.

 

[Hawkeye]

Don't worry a few knocks at the UAE vs WI will make him even better than Sobers for many posters here. Just wait and watch.

That's what's going to happen. He'll score easy soft runs in the UAE or bash WI bowlers, and everyone will forget how big of a choker he is.

He can't play outside his comfort zone - has limited strokeplay and can't take the attack to the opposition either.

Once Asad's GodFather & Role Model Batsmam Mohammad Yousuf also had problems with Right Armer's ball nipping back into him or Lefteez Vaas & Pathan's inswingers.


But he worked it out quite well.



A horrible Test for Shafique. I hope he gets rid of this scary test soon. His confodence right now will be really low

You're being too easy on him to suggest he only has one issue: incoming delivery.

He can't play any offensive role, can't score fast and has limited shots. Pressurize him a little and he'll give you his wicket.

Azhar too is limited, but can attack and defend both.

 

[shaaik]

Completely agree. Although i am not sure about the technique part. Guys gets LBW all the time.

He's a very good technique by pakistani standards and is probably technically the best player we have at the moment however that doesn't mean he's a very sound technically. He has a very lazy attitude towards the game and really needs to be aggressive at the crease but having said that I don't know whether he would be able to bring aggression in his game coz he comes across as a very meek bloke. Yasir hameed is one example which comes into my mind who tried to be aggressive at the crease however it didn't come to him naturally which cost him his career. He was a very good player if he played within his limitations but the moment he failed to take his game to the next level. I hope Asad doesn't turn out to be another Yasir hameed. Btw, I really was a huge fan of Yasir hameed but our seniors like Inzi and Yousuf failed him. Didn't groom him well.

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[shaaik]

Completely agree. Although i am not sure about the technique part. Guys gets LBW all the time.

He's a very good technique by pakistani standards and is probably technically the best player we have at the moment however that doesn't mean he's very sound technically by international standards . He has a very lazy attitude towards the game and really needs to be aggressive at the crease but having said that I don't know whether or not he would be able to bring aggression in his game coz he comes across as a very meek bloke. This upgradation can either make or break him.Yasir hameed is one example which comes to my mind who tried to be aggressive at the crease however it didn't come to him naturally which cost him his career. He was a very good player when he played within his limitations but the moment he failed to take his game to the next level. I hope Asad doesn't turn out to be another Yasir hameed. Btw, I really was a huge fan of Yasir but our seniors like Inzi and Yousuf failed him. Didn't groom him well.

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[Abdullah]

I had a bad feeling ever since misbah first innings dismissal that this would unravel. I mean that is more than just a bit of bad luck that dismissal.
Shafiq is fine to be in this team. We will just have to (maybe) accept that when misbah and yk go he will not be the big cheese to see the new starters along like misbah and yk were for him and azhar.
Yk and misbah started averaging 55-60 at that point which helped azhar and shafiq settle in because the newbies are not going to come in and start averaging 50 from the off. They r gonna need time to settle
So when the newbies start we would have needed azhar and shafiq to go up a level. Not sure shafiq will manage it. I hope so

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Sadly, Shafique is living up to my original opinion of him...he will never be a guy who can lead our batting. We've invested heaps in him and he's a decent no. 6, but that's all he is. A decent no. 6. Who knows if he'll even be able to retain his place once he's forced up the order when Misbah and YK retire. He might have a string of failures and be deservedly dropped.

I'll tell you one thing - and Umar Akmal haters are gonna especially hate it - I bet if Umar was given the same chances as Asad, particularly in the UAE, Akmal would be averaging the same or better than Asad.

 

[Hawkeye]

I had a bad feeling ever since misbah first innings dismissal that this would unravel. I mean that is more than just a bit of bad luck that dismissal.
Shafiq is fine to be in this team. We will just have to (maybe) accept that when misbah and yk go he will not be the big cheese to see the new starters along like misbah and yk were for him and azhar.
Yk and misbah started averaging 55-60 at that point which helped azhar and shafiq settle in because the newbies are not going to come in and start averaging 50 from the off. They r gonna need time to settle
So when the newbies start we would have needed azhar and shafiq to go up a level. Not sure shafiq will manage it. I hope so

That's what I fear, too.

Misbah is that glue holding our batting together, specially under collapses and pressure.

What's going to happen once he's gone? Shafiq was given a free ride for 5 years to build his batting and take up that role, he's a #6 bat who will do Misbah's job once he's gone.

But, he's too meek, timid, can't lead the batting or dominate attacks. Plus, he's highly inconsistent whenever pressure is on and chokes.

Sadly, Shafique is living up to my original opinion of him...he will never be a guy who can lead our batting. We've invested heaps in him and he's a decent no. 6, but that's all he is. A decent no. 6. Who knows if he'll even be able to retain his place once he's forced up the order when Misbah and YK retire. He might have a string of failures and be deservedly dropped.

I'll tell you one thing - and Umar Akmal haters are gonna especially hate it - I bet if Umar was given the same chances as Asad, particularly in the UAE, Akmal would be averaging the same or better than Asad.

Umar would have done better.

He's a dynamic bat unlike Shafiq, who only has one gear. All Umar needs is some work on temperament - he can be an excellent bat and has a higher ceiling than Shafiq.

 

[Slog]

Sadly, Shafique is living up to my original opinion of him...he will never be a guy who can lead our batting. We've invested heaps in him and he's a decent no. 6, but that's all he is. A decent no. 6. Who knows if he'll even be able to retain his place once he's forced up the order when Misbah and YK retire. He might have a string of failures and be deservedly dropped.

I'll tell you one thing - and Umar Akmal haters are gonna especially hate it - I bet if Umar was given the same chances as Asad, particularly in the UAE, Akmal would be averaging the same or better than Asad.

No he wouldn't

Umar Akmal is trash

Has scored just one FC century in FIVE years despite playing almost all domestic seasons in between

Just 3 centuries (domestic and international) in last SIX years. None against top 10 into side

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Lol Umar is not a test batsman. Just because he fluked a ton on debut against NZ doesn't make him test class. Besides that was 7 years ago. He's regressed even further since then. Shafiq may not be mentally tough or technically sound to play I tough situation s like this consistently but he will contribute atleast on slightly easier pitches.

 

[ExplicitAI]

He tends to score in meaningless matches to give the impression that he's a good player but he bottles it when it matters.

 

[Slog]

He tends to score in meaningless matches to give the impression that he's a good player but he bottles it when it matters.

Lords was meaningless lol?

 

[ExplicitAI]

Lords was meaningless lol?

He has had his moments after playing 40+ Tests and I won't take anything away from him. I really go like him as a Test player but I feel that he needs to step up in important matches more consistently. Like for example, his ton against SA came in a losing cause.

 

[Pete Rose]

very poor game. is better than this.

 

[Slog]

He has had his moments after playing 40+ Tests and I won't take anything away from him. I really go like him as a Test player but I feel that he needs to step up in important matches more consistently. Like for example, his ton against SA came in a losing cause.

Lol how was it a meaningless cause

He did his job in that test match. Crickets a team game

 

[srh]

very poor game. is better than this.

I am very disappointed by him. He is not good as I thought he was. The comparisons with Mohammad Yousuf should stop. He will never be as good as Mohammad Yousuf.

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

Both Shafiq and Misbah were terrible today. End of story.

Calling out your own boy. Which is why I respect your opinion.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Don't worry a few knocks at the UAE vs WI will make him even better than Sobers for many posters here. Just wait and watch.

And some people were comparing his centuries with Sobers, a blasphemy of the highest order.

 

[msb314]

Shafiq has been terrible so far this tour apart from one innings at Lord's. Was suspect at OT but was shockingly abysmal during the Edgbaston test. Misbah atleast has gotten a 50 and a 100 but has never looked convincing and we really needed for him to step up today. Has lacked consistency but is obviously not our biggest concern. Same for Azhar.

Yk has gotten start in the 20's and 30's but fails to kick on. He's not really doing himself a whole lot of favors if we wants to prolong his Test career and chase after 10K runs.

Less said about Hafeez the better... Has sunk to the lowest of lows possible.

 

[Mamoon]

Calling out your own boy. Which is why I respect your opinion.

Thank you, there is no point in making excuses. All I see in this thread is Misbah fans deflecting attention from Misbah, Shafiq fans deflecting attention from Shafiq and those who like both are generally not showing up.

 

[ExplicitAI]

Lol how was it a meaningless cause

He did his job in that test match. Crickets a team game

That's true but the main point is that he failed miserable in this Test

 

[JibranAnsari]

If shafiq is the best we can produce the as mamoon says that our cricket is definitely done.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Just did not look like he was with it mentally in both inns, didnt seem to have a game plan of what he was actually going to do with the bat and overall like a lot of our batsmen has been pretty poor most of the series.

 

[hussain.r97]

Shafiq played very poorly this game, terrible innings, was going nowhere. The thing with Shafiq is when he plays poorly he stops applying himself, loses focus, and his technique goes all over the place. Shafiq has got to find a way to stay focused, a player of his level has no excuse when it comes to concentration.

That being said, some people are bashing him unnecessarily. Yes, he's had a poor game. However, that does not take away the fact that he has been a proven and consistent performer for us, and has also come good when the pressure is on. Him and Azhar may not be Root, Williamson, or Smith level, but they are still very good players in their own right and are the best we've got.

 

[Slog]

That's true but the main point is that he failed miserable in this Test

glad you accepted your wrong assertion

yes he was miserable. hopefully he can contribute in Oval because we def need him to

 

[ExplicitAI]

glad you accepted your wrong assertion

yes he was miserable. hopefully he can contribute in Oval because we def need him to

I still believe in the fact that so far in his career he hasn't been a consistent performer in crucial matches (I'm just lazy to type up what I feel). I'm not saying he has never done that in his life since he did play some good innings in crucial Test matches but I've seen him go missing many times. I also think he should not play ODI's as well, however, he still remains one of our best Test batsman and is also one of the best in the world.