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Asad Shafiq, a failure in pressure situations?

srh said:
good player against old ball but his failures against new ball are well documented
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Everyone in the lineup has a problem with the new ball starting from #1 to #7 on the other hand Asad is the most technically equipped to handle it - in contrast to whatever his documented history might suggest (proof in session is the analysis of the Sky team in the UAE series as well as today).

Most batsmen in the world would fail in England at the moment whenever they might come up against the a brand new cherry.
 
Slog said:
They are not wel documented

He scored centuries against SL, SA and NZ when the new ball had come :facepalm:

Smh at some people

As for the innings. He should be rightfully gutted for throwing it away
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the century against SA in SA was against old ball; when SA took new ball he get out right away
 
srh said:
the century against SA in SA was against old ball; when SA took new ball he get out right away
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I think he was around for 10-12 overs

YK got out 5-6 overs after new ball and he followed 7-8 overs later

Could be wrong
 
Played very well and had a good partnership with Misbah, but I had a feeling he will make a mistake in his 70s or 80s, lack of concentration there, but overall he played well and scored a good 50!
 
Meh. Too much of splitting hairs. He scored yet again under pressure. Important for him to start this tour well. Expect more from him. Much more.
 
Opposition and neutrals always find him the most solid and graceful to watch
 
Best batsman seen today who while batting never looked that he gona get out
 
Slog said:
Opposition and neutrals always find him the most solid and graceful to watch
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He definitely is. In an ideal world, he should be batting at # 3 but his soft dismissals against new ball need to be minimized.
 
He needs to stop getting out in his 80's.

He did this once in the warm up games..

He has a continuous streak of scoring 70's and 80's vs England and Australia in the UAE..

He would've had 8 100's atleast if he had cashed in on those starts..

Definitely was the aggressor of the two when both Misbah and Shafiq played.. His 55 runs had 10 boundaries..

Probably the most fluid Shafiq knock I have seen in a while..

Needs to stop missing out on the big ones.. Probably the best looking/ technically correct batsman in our lineup
 
Slog said:
I think he was around for 10-12 overs

YK got out 5-6 overs after new ball and he followed 7-8 overs later

Could be wrong
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The 2 problems he has when he looks very scared and does not show confidence are:
1. When he first come in an inning to bat
2. When the new ball is taken

He needs to overcome his fears but we have been saying this for a number of years and still the issue remains
 
Think it's time Younis said his goodbye and Babar says his hello.
 
This was actually a very good innings under pressure and probably one of his best innings yet. In the end he got a little unlucky, he was playing the second new ball really well. He pretty much got out because he was trying to pull out of a shot after realising it was far too close to his body to play at, and he got late on it.

He didn't fail under pressure nor was his dismissal down to the new ball completely.
 
Improvement from shafiq in this match. Really impressed. Well done, lad. [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] must be a happy man. :)
 
Reminded me of Moyo yesterday with the way he was defending and playing the ball through the offside
 
Will surely get out quickly in the second innings where the real pressure situation comes up. He has always proved it in the past
 
If he fails today, then challenge will be how to bump this thread and criticize Asad but at the same time, defend Misbah for what he did today.
 
Mamoon said:
If he fails today, then challenge will be how to bump this thread and criticize Asad but at the same time, defend Misbah for what he did today.
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The challenge for you is to keep making these ''challenge'' posts without appearing unimaginative.
 
endymion248 said:
He is not considered a tier 1 batsman yet. As a no 6 batsman, he needs to rise to the occasion here.
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He is.

Most opposition we've played have had their experts and ex players consistently praise him as the most impressive and complete batsmen we have
 
Tier 1 batsmen who are roughly around his age are the likes of Kohli, Root, Williamson and Smith.

Shafiq doesn't enjoy their reputation. He has potential though, but needs to have 2-3 dominating series before he commands that type of respect from all quarters.

For now, he's Tier 2, but these are the occasions where he can jump to Tier 1.
 
Mamoon said:
Tier 1 batsmen who are roughly around his age are the likes of Kohli, Root, Williamson and Smith.

Shafiq doesn't enjoy their reputation. He has potential though, but needs to have 2-3 dominating series before he commands that type of respect from all quarters.

For now, he's Tier 2, but these are the occasions where he can jump to Tier 1.
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This right here is the occasion
 
Mamoon said:
Tier 1 batsmen who are roughly around his age are the likes of Kohli, Root, Williamson and Smith.

Shafiq doesn't enjoy their reputation. He has potential though, but needs to have 2-3 dominating series before he commands that type of respect from all quarters.

For now, he's Tier 2, but these are the occasions where he can jump to Tier 1.
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Only if he can score big here.

Been throwing it away in the last 3-4 innings after scoring fifties.

Will need him to take the attack to the opposition and score brisk runs.
 
What the hell did you do, Shafiq!!

I was expecting him to fail when it's time but had a slight bit of hope that he'll bail us out.
 
Hawkeye said:
What the hell did you do, Shafiq!!

I was expecting him to fail when it's time but had a slight bit of hope that he'll bail us out.
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To be fair, brilliant delivery and Shafiq played a good knock, didn't throw his wicket away by any means
 
What a knock by Shafiq.. it took a really good delivery to get rid of him, looked head and shoulders above the rest.. brilliant!
 
Asad Shafiq gone before the new ball? That is no excuse to get out on old ball. Bowlers were already tired. And you were only batsman left. Collapse is in the order. We do not have single batsman who can bat till the end. All of them are chokers.
 
excellent innings in a pressure situation.

He got fooled by the change of angle, but that is why bowlers change angles to try to fool set batsmen.

He got his side out of a jam,

if Pakistan win I would give joint man of the match to Shafiq and Yasir, even though Misbah got the hundred.
 
Once again, played the best innings in the team. We were going nowhere before he arrived and give us real impetus.
 
Two good knocks in a pressure situation. Got out to a good delivery here.
Our top 3 are the ones who can't handle the heat. Azhar has been especially disappointing in this regard.
 
Another good knock by Shafiq. He give the innings direction and momentum which was continued by Sarfraz. Got a real good delivery in the end.
 
Another very good innings by this class little player. A shame he missed out on a well deserved 50 but his innings along with other decent contributions from Sarfraz and Yasir have put us in a good position. Hope he gets at least one 100 in this series.
 
Played really well in both of the innings becoming a bit of a fan of his even though I hate him being in odis I still think we should give him a final go at opening.
 
Good inning but the team expected more from him and he failed.
 
Mamoon said:
Once again, played the best innings in the team. We were going nowhere before he arrived and give us real impetus.
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I'd say he is the best batsman in this lineup.

Great stuff once again when YK was dancing around on the pitch and supposed to be wall of Pakistan were back in pavilion pretty early.
 
I always said Shafiq will be the best batsman in this series because when going gets tough then you know who is the real boy.
 
I thought before the tour that he is our best test batsman and now I'm pretty much sure of this. This judgment will remain the same even if he fails in the remaining knocks of the series.

However if you are ever invited on a home-cooked dinner by him, he'll make the appetizer that'll make your taste buds dance a symphony, serve you a beverage that'll make your imagination run into overdrive, and then bring you with a centerpiece that'll virtually send you flying weightless into space but at the exact moment you'd prepare yourself to delve into the final heavenly deliciousness of a delightful evening put in front of you, he'll pull the table cloth and everything will come down crashing abruptly. The dinner is over, he'll say in a gentlemanly manner and you' be left to wander what it could have been.

Satisfy the senses that you don't even know exist only to be left unsatisfied at the very last moment ...

That for you ladies and gentleman is the story of Asad Shafiq.
 
Man of the match for me if we win this game even if Yasir gets a 10-fer(which he probably will no matter what happens).

Asad made a mockery of this thread title. Both innings of his were under real pressure. Today's knock was the only thing that allowed us to actually set a target. One of those knocks that will be statistically lost in oblivion but given the context, a massive innings.

Highly unlucky to get an unplayable delivery from Woakes. That was an Asif/McGrath level seam delivery.
 
Best innings of the day.

Took a great delivery to get him out
 
Saudi said:
Man of the match for me if we win this game even if Yasir gets a 10-fer(which he probably will no matter what happens).

Asad made a mockery of this thread title. Both innings of his were under real pressure. Today's knock was the only thing that allowed us to actually set a target. One of those knocks that will be statistically lost in oblivion but given the context, a massive innings.

Highly unlucky to get an unplayable delivery from Woakes. That was an Asif/McGrath level seam delivery.
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He rescued the innings pretty much when we were 68/4 and Younis playing like a tailender

If he'd gotten out early too we would be all out for sub 120
 
Shafiq has been batting at a different level to his teammates.

Well ahead of Hafeez, Masood, Azhar, Younis, Misbah and Sarfraz when it comes to technique and poise.

Just needs to improve his concentration and he will take his average beyond 50 within a couple of years.
 
Good to see him performing in both innings bailed us out of trouble both times. Once younis and Misbah say goodbye to test cricket. I would move asad shafiq to 4.

I would play
Azhar Ali
Any new opener
Saud shakeel
Asad shafiq
Babar azam
Haris sohail
Sarfraz Ahmed
A pretty good top 7 is that.
 
reasons he is not spoken in the same breath as the other marquee players is (a) bats lower (c) not toured enough (c) doesn't play/play well in the limited overs game
 
Pete Rose said:
reasons he is not spoken in the same breath as the other marquee players is (a) bats lower (c) not toured enough (c) doesn't play/play well in the limited overs game
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Its time for him to come up the order

He's clearly looked our best batsman so far this tour (including tour games) so it doesn't make sense to waste him at #6.

People tend to complain that he doesn't always take charge but why the heck are you expecting that from someone shunted to #6.

There's a reason there's not been many successful #6's in history and as soon as they are doing great for a few years they are moved up to maximise the return on talent.

It's a thankless position where either your rescuing the team from a hole or are expected to press home the advantage of an already good innings. Neither role affords you enough time to pursue big innings and set the tempo and mode of the innings
 
If there team management doesn't want to move him to 3, just have him swap with Misbah at least. He has looked our best player. Needs to face as many balls as possible.
 
He'll truly be tested once Misbah retires, along with Younus, and therefore be put up the batting order. No one can deny he's the best #6 in the world at the moment. It's a tad unfortunate that he's been there for a while but he's been performing consistently and has only done two mistakes during the match so far: losing both his wickets, especially in the first innings which was disappointing with the end of days play so near.

Regarding his status as a "Tier 1" batsman: no. Sure enough he is in a Test Team XI since no other #6 is as good as him but to relatively compare him to these batsmen is too premature. He has to bat higher, and score runs as he has been at #6. If he really wants to cement his position as a top player, he needs to transfer his test form across to ODIs.

The great thing about Shafiq is that he's gained temperament. It was evident in the second innings. While Younus was bogged down with a SR of 25, he was batting quite freely with a SR of 50. He also manages to play well with Sarfraz and enjoys having the pressure taken off him. No doubt we should move him up the board to #4. But like I said, the only real change I can see is him being a #5 and replacing Misbah, and Babar might slot into #6. He may even stay at #6 and Babar will replace Misbah. It's early days to speculate, but so far he does warrant a place higher up the order. If it was me, I'd have him at #4.
 
What is Asad Shafiq's record with the scoreboard pressure?

I want to know what is his record in the 1st inning after the opposition has put on a big score in their 1st inning.

I want to know what is his record in the 2nd inning when Pakistan has scored less runs in the 1st inning than the runs scored by the opposition in their 1st inning. (Both follow on and not cases).

This can give us a better idea of his test cricket game.
 
To be fair outside the subcontinent , no one has any record.

But Asad has one century in South Africa in testing conditions.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
To be fair outside the subcontinent , no one has any record.

But Asad has one century in South Africa in testing conditions.
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that inning doesn't qualify for the scoreboard pressure criteria I mentioned above. Pakistan was batting first in that match.
 
Lol he was our bets batsmen in the Lords test. He played 2 excellent knocks under pressure. His place in this team is the most secure
 
Failed under pressure; going back to his old ways. Still, i believe he deserves the least criticism due to his exploits in Lords.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Lol he was our bets batsmen in the Lords test. He played 2 excellent knocks under pressure. His place in this team is the most secure
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The Lord's test doesn't qualify for the scoreboard pressure I mentioned in OP. Pakistan was batting first in Lord's test.
 
srh said:
that inning doesn't qualify for the scoreboard pressure criteria I mentioned above. Pakistan was batting first in that match.
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Pak was sth like less than 100 for 4/5 iirc
 
PP is utterly ridiculous when it comes to Shafiq. He played 2 excellent knocks in the first test. He is the least of pakistan's problems. Younis, Azhar, Masood, Hafeez have all done virtually nothing and yet people have the nerve to find fault with Shafiq. It's mind boggling.
 
This forum has too many over reaction threads after one good or bad performance. Sometimes you just need to let things play out.
 
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